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It would be great if the power level for the instant band was shown on the display. Particularly so for users who use different power levels on the various bands. Another thing that would be good to show is the bandwidth in use, not only the filter selected. Maybe both.
Tnx and 73, Tony, N2UN ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Tony,
The power level is displayed if you change the Power knob even a small amount - just rotate he knob a little to see the current power. The bandwidth graphic already shows the bandwidth in use. While it has some granularity, it is still a good indicator of the DSP bandwidth. The exact bandwidth and/or high-cut, low-cut frequencies (or Shift/Width) are shown in the VFO B display when a change is made. I think what you are requesting is already there. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/29/2011 9:08 PM, ANTHONY JAPHA wrote: > It would be great if the power level for the instant band was shown on the display. Particularly so for users who use different power levels on the various bands. Another thing that would be good to show is the bandwidth in use, not only the filter selected. Maybe both. > Tnx and 73, > Tony, N2UN > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Don,
Many requests for enhancements to the K3 are indeed already there and it behoves us, the operators, to exercise our knowledge of the equipment rather than expect the manufacturer to do all the work for us.....:-) Having said that I seem to 'discover' a feature long forgotten about when I have not used it for some time....aaaah, the brain plays tricks on us old dinosaurs eh? Grin Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile Elecraft Equipment K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 Living the dream!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Wilhelm To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 suggestion Tony, The power level is displayed if you change the Power knob even a small amount - just rotate he knob a little to see the current power. The bandwidth graphic already shows the bandwidth in use. While it has some granularity, it is still a good indicator of the DSP bandwidth. The exact bandwidth and/or high-cut, low-cut frequencies (or Shift/Width) are shown in the VFO B display when a change is made. I think what you are requesting is already there. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/29/2011 9:08 PM, ANTHONY JAPHA wrote: > It would be great if the power level for the instant band was shown on the display. Particularly so for users who use different power levels on the various bands. Another thing that would be good to show is the bandwidth in use, not only the filter selected. Maybe both. > Tnx and 73, > Tony, N2UN > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm-4
While discussion suggestions...
In the CQWW CW on 20m in the evening many of the Russian stations over the polar path had tremendous flutter on their signals. Found it was often easier to copy them with the AGC on "slow" instead of "fast". AGC is about the only "rough spot" I've found with my K3. And I've read all the write-ups, tried the various settings, played with the rf gain, etc. Guess I've sorta gotten use to it but believe there is still room for improvement. The CQWW experience lead me to this thought: What is the possiblity of having slow/medium/fast AGC settings for cw and separate s/m/f settings for ssb? Currently, for my hearing at least, if I adjust Fast for cw it's often too fast for ssb; if I adjust Slow for ssb it's too slow for cw. And Fast isn't always the best for cw nor is Slow always the best for ssb. 73, Ted W4NZ -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 9:35 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 suggestion Tony, The power level is displayed if you change the Power knob even a small amount - just rotate he knob a little to see the current power. The bandwidth graphic already shows the bandwidth in use. While it has some granularity, it is still a good indicator of the DSP bandwidth. The exact bandwidth and/or high-cut, low-cut frequencies (or Shift/Width) are shown in the VFO B display when a change is made. I think what you are requesting is already there. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/29/2011 9:08 PM, ANTHONY JAPHA wrote: > It would be great if the power level for the instant band was shown on the display. Particularly so for users who use different power levels on the various bands. Another thing that would be good to show is the bandwidth in use, not only the filter selected. Maybe both. > Tnx and 73, > Tony, N2UN ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Ted.
I suggest you "stick with the contesters" who almost universally use AGC S with the K3. The AGC characteristics for the K3 are more adjustable than for most transceivers (see the K3 menu), and those menu parameters become more important than the AGC attack and decay times. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/29/2011 10:30 PM, Ted Bryant wrote: > While discussion suggestions... > > In the CQWW CW on 20m in the evening many of the Russian stations over the > polar path had tremendous flutter on their signals. Found it was often > easier to copy them with the AGC on "slow" instead of "fast". AGC is about > the only "rough spot" I've found with my K3. And I've read all the > write-ups, tried the various settings, played with the rf gain, etc. Guess > I've sorta gotten use to it but believe there is still room for improvement. > The CQWW experience lead me to this thought: > > What is the possiblity of having slow/medium/fast AGC settings for cw and > separate s/m/f settings for ssb? Currently, for my hearing at least, if I > adjust Fast for cw it's often too fast for ssb; if I adjust Slow for ssb > it's too slow for cw. And Fast isn't always the best for cw nor is Slow > always the best for ssb. > > 73, Ted W4NZ > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by ANTHONY JAPHA
Strange! My K3 already does both of these things, right from the factory.
John Ragle -- W1ZI ===== On 11/29/2011 9:08 PM, ANTHONY JAPHA wrote: > It would be great if the power level for the instant band was shown on the display. Particularly so for users who use different power levels on the various bands. Another thing that would be good to show is the bandwidth in use, not only the filter selected. Maybe both. > Tnx and 73, > Tony, N2UN ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I'm sure this has been brought up before but I'd like a remote VFO A
& B.; one that allows me to go split & preferably allows power and filter adjustments: I'm dealing with advancing age and holding my arm in one extended position to reach the VFO for hunt & pounce in a 48 hour contest is becoming problematic. It's the constant extension of the wrist to access & twist the VFO knob while the arm is extended which is my issue. If I had a remote VFO pad I could rest next to the key where it's comfortable & it would be much better ergonomically and would be a real asset. Sign me up! Gary KA1J ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by ANTHONY JAPHA
Maybe I should have been more precise. Of course the display shows power and bandwidth while one is rotating those knobs. I'd like to see them displayed constantly. I don't like having to rotate the power knob, for example, to see what power I'm running. In driving a solid state amp (homebrew), I've found that a change of a single watt from the K3 (or any other driver) can make a considerable difference to the input V and I and output from the amp.
Tony, N2UN ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Wouldn't that make you suspect that your homebrew amp isn't very linear? It does me. Dave AB7E On 11/30/2011 7:42 AM, ANTHONY JAPHA wrote: > In driving a solid state amp (homebrew), I've found that a change of a single watt from the K3 (or any other driver) can make a considerable difference to the input V and I and output from the amp. > > > Tony, N2UN ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by Ted Bryant
I would like to second this suggestion.
Having a "medium" setting would be extremely helpful, especially in the case outlined by Ted. I found exactly the same issue as he has illustrated. -Lu-W4LT- #3182+P3 + now K1 Message: 19 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 22:30:44 -0500 From: "Ted Bryant" <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 suggestion...another To: <[hidden email]> Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" While discussion suggestions... In the CQWW CW on 20m in the evening many of the Russian stations over the polar path had tremendous flutter on their signals. Found it was often easier to copy them with the AGC on "slow" instead of "fast". AGC is about the only "rough spot" I've found with my K3. And I've read all the write-ups, tried the various settings, played with the rf gain, etc. Guess I've sorta gotten use to it but believe there is still room for improvement. The CQWW experience lead me to this thought: What is the possiblity of having slow/medium/fast AGC settings for cw and separate s/m/f settings for ssb? Currently, for my hearing at least, if I adjust Fast for cw it's often too fast for ssb; if I adjust Slow for ssb it's too slow for cw. And Fast isn't always the best for cw nor is Slow always the best for ssb. 73, Ted W4NZ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Don:
I tend to use Slow a lot too, but fast flutter and fast QSB as described by Ted are not handled well with Slow and sort of fall through the cracks between my Slow setting and my Fast setting. I could turn AGC off and deal with it manually, but then I place my ears at risk, even though I have AF LIMIT set to clip at 17. I try to run as little AF gain as possible to save my ear sensitivity. I always worry when AGC is off. It just would be nice to be able to just punch the AGC button and select one more preset set up for something between the parameters set in S and F to deal with conditions on, say, 15 and 10 with polar flutter or on a groundwave signal from a station in my own section that I need for a multiplier. One more preset would be helpful in the heat of battle. I know I could go into the menu and adjust it, but then I would have to go into the menus and put the settings back when Im done. And at the 23rd hour of a 24 hour BIC session, this tasks my feeble brain just a bit. Of course, it is entirely possible to build a macro to do the same thing. I have not had time to explore this and, save for a firmware update that adds the third preset, it may be the logical way to fix this issue. But it would have been indeed nice to have the third preset from the git go that, as a contester, I could certainly use. Just sayin'! Lu-W4LT ======================= Message: 22 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 23:26:55 -0500 From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 suggestion...another To: Ted Bryant <[hidden email]> Cc: [hidden email] Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Ted. I suggest you "stick with the contesters" who almost universally use AGC S with the K3. The AGC characteristics for the K3 are more adjustable than for most transceivers (see the K3 menu), and those menu parameters become more important than the AGC attack and decay times. 73, Don W3FPR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm-4
Hi Don,
Thanks for your reply. Yes, I do like the flexibility in adjusting the K3's AGC parameters. But, I've often found situations where the AGC characteristics of my ProIII sitting beside it allow me to copy stations better. I have a hard time believing that firmware adjustments in the K3 couldn't offer even more options. 73, Ted W4NZ -----Original Message----- From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:27 PM To: Ted Bryant Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 suggestion...another Ted. I suggest you "stick with the contesters" who almost universally use AGC S with the K3. The AGC characteristics for the K3 are more adjustable than for most transceivers (see the K3 menu), and those menu parameters become more important than the AGC attack and decay times. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/29/2011 10:30 PM, Ted Bryant wrote: > While discussion suggestions... > > In the CQWW CW on 20m in the evening many of the Russian stations over the > polar path had tremendous flutter on their signals. Found it was often > easier to copy them with the AGC on "slow" instead of "fast". AGC is about > the only "rough spot" I've found with my K3. And I've read all the > write-ups, tried the various settings, played with the rf gain, etc. Guess > I've sorta gotten use to it but believe there is still room for improvement. > The CQWW experience lead me to this thought: > > What is the possiblity of having slow/medium/fast AGC settings for cw and > separate s/m/f settings for ssb? Currently, for my hearing at least, if I > adjust Fast for cw it's often too fast for ssb; if I adjust Slow for ssb > it's too slow for cw. And Fast isn't always the best for cw nor is Slow > always the best for ssb. > > 73, Ted W4NZ > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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