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I love the k3 however I would like to se.
1 Color display 2 ethernet port 3 vga output for the k3 itself Thank you Charles ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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* On 2013 04 Jan 11:07 -0600, Charles Woods wrote:
> I love the k3 however I would like to se. > 1 Color display The P3 serves that purpose for me. I like the crisp text of the present K3 display so it works well for me. > 2 ethernet port This has been argued to death. Please check the archives. > 3 vga output for the k3 itself To do what? The FFT is done in the P3 and the K3 currently has no such capability. Perhaps, instead, an outboard hardware device that interfaces with the present K3 may be more what you'd like. It could incorporate a color display, and provide an Ethernet port that, like modern consumer network devices, could incorporate firewalling and other techniques to limit radio control to authorized users and so on. As it would be an add-on it would allow the K3 to retain its unique portability characteristic. Now, what I would like to see improved in the K3 is the auto-notch which seems to use a lot of bandwidth compared to the manual notch and also often introduces audible distortion to the received audio. Unfortunately, these are a couple of lingering issues that exist in a radio that I am otherwise completely pleased with. 73, de Nate, N0NB >> -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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The Ethernet port is long overdue. Although, having tried to implement
that in a PIC myself, I can tell you it is a lot more challenging in a PIC controller than it is on a PC. Still I would love it. The pigtail is okay as a substitute. Ken (KC) Nicely KE3C On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Nate Bargmann <[hidden email]> wrote: > * On 2013 04 Jan 11:07 -0600, Charles Woods wrote: > > I love the k3 however I would like to se. > > 1 Color display > > The P3 serves that purpose for me. I like the crisp text of the present > K3 display so it works well for me. > > > 2 ethernet port > > This has been argued to death. Please check the archives. > > > 3 vga output for the k3 itself > > To do what? The FFT is done in the P3 and the K3 currently has no such > capability. > > Perhaps, instead, an outboard hardware device that interfaces with the > present K3 may be more what you'd like. It could incorporate a color > display, and provide an Ethernet port that, like modern consumer network > devices, could incorporate firewalling and other techniques to limit > radio control to authorized users and so on. As it would be an add-on > it would allow the K3 to retain its unique portability characteristic. > > Now, what I would like to see improved in the K3 is the auto-notch which > seems to use a lot of bandwidth compared to the manual notch and also > often introduces audible distortion to the received audio. > Unfortunately, these are a couple of lingering issues that exist in a > radio that I am otherwise completely pleased with. > > 73, de Nate, N0NB >> > > -- > > "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all > possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." > > Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Fri, 04 Jan 2013 12:11:45 -0800
Nate Bargmann said: > Now, what I would like to see improved in the K3 is the auto-notch which > seems to use a lot of bandwidth compared to the manual notch and also > often introduces audible distortion to the received audio. > I would love to see a toggle on/off menu option so the bandwidth of the notch could be made variable -- GB & 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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My wish is for an Ethernet connection. I'm actually working on a retrofit
to my radio right now using an embedded solution, but it could easily be build into the I/O board. I'll share it when I'm done. Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ/ J68HZ Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch Staunton, Illinois email: [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I'd like to see the tuning rate accelerate after a few turns of the knob.
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YES, my Icom 756 ProIII has that feature and I love it!
Could always be a Menu feature you could turn ON or OFF. Mike AC6JA In a message dated 1/5/2013 4:41:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: I'd like to see the tuning rate accelerate after a few turns of the knob. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-suggestion-tp7568165p7568273.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Im just wondering what would the advantage be to using ethernet over
serial other than perhaps for remote operation. for me this would be an nice feature. I did here a comment today while scanning the bands a wish for an XYL roofing filter. (-: On 1/5/2013 1:38 PM, Dr. William J. Schmidt, II wrote: > My wish is for an Ethernet connection. I'm actually working on a retrofit > to my radio right now using an embedded solution, but it could easily be > build into the I/O board. I'll share it when I'm done. > > > Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ/ J68HZ > > Owner - Operator > Big Signal Ranch > Staunton, Illinois > > email: [hidden email] > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I am thinking that the main reasons for wanting Ethernet over Serial has more to do with some technical issues rather than actual usage difference issues. Some of those technical issues that I can think of are:
1. Serial interfaces, especially those that depend on Serial to USB come in all kinds of differences. The Elecraft crowd probably uses mostly FTDI or Prolific Interfaces but each needs drivers and these drivers often need to be updated when new operating system software is installed (not always though). With Ethernet, the interface is much better universally supported by the operating system (out of the box). Indeed, it has been a decade or more since I had to install Ethernet or TCP/IP software stack separate from the operating system. 2. Personally, I think TCP|UDP/IP type connections are easier to program and software (socket APIs) are almost always supported for a large variety of programming languages. 3. With Ethernet, the individual devices are addressable in a manner that I believe is much nicer than serial port addressing. But, this does introduce a new problem of assigning IP addresses to a range of devices (e.g. 10.x.y.z). I have worked with other types of real-time data acquisition devices that have IP addresses which are normally sequentially assigned to a fixed sequence or with most Elecraft equipment you could have a menu feature for setting the IP. Or, DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol) could be used for IP addresses to be assigned by the host computer. This is a detail that might be the most troubling but there are solutions. 4. With Ethernet, the Elecraft rig could act as a client who initiates a request as well as a server that responds to an unsolicited request from the host computer. This would allow much more powerful methods for interfacing data. 5. There are some interesting things that can be done such as remote computing (made easier) and a few other things. For example, how about a web application that interfaces to your K3 or other Elecraft equipment using AJAX or the new Websockets (NOTE: yes, this requires that the Elecraft equipment does more than just implement a TCP/IP stack, they must implement an HTTP server as well but this can be done). Just my two-bits. 73, phil, K7PEH On Jan 5, 2013, at 6:05 PM, David Moes <[hidden email]> wrote: > Im just wondering what would the advantage be to using ethernet over serial other than perhaps for remote operation. for me this would be an nice feature. > > I did here a comment today while scanning the bands a wish for an XYL roofing filter. (-: > > > On 1/5/2013 1:38 PM, Dr. William J. Schmidt, II wrote: >> My wish is for an Ethernet connection. I'm actually working on a retrofit >> to my radio right now using an embedded solution, but it could easily be >> build into the I/O board. I'll share it when I'm done. >> >> >> Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ/ J68HZ >> >> Owner - Operator >> Big Signal Ranch >> Staunton, Illinois >> >> email: [hidden email] >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I would like to see a remote tuning device (VFO control only) that can
be moved around the desk etc. It needs to be simple - such as an extra VFO encoder mounted in a box and on a wire in parallel to the existing VFO-B encoder. Elegant by simplicity - it could plug into a jack installed on the bottom edge of the front panel (or simply a 5-conductor line brought out from VFO-B). I may be wrong, but I sure don't look at this as rocket science - it is all mechanical and a little soldering. It would only be active when VFO-B is selected. Any comments? Thanks, Bill W2BLC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Bill...this has been suggested many times before. Don't hold your
breath...... On 1/5/2013 8:53 PM, Bill Clarke wrote: > I would like to see a remote tuning device (VFO control only) that can > be moved around the desk etc. It needs to be simple - such as an extra > VFO encoder mounted in a box and on a wire in parallel to the existing > VFO-B encoder. Elegant by simplicity - it could plug into a jack > installed on the bottom edge of the front panel (or simply a > 5-conductor line brought out from VFO-B). I may be wrong, but I sure > don't look at this as rocket science - it is all mechanical and a > little soldering. It would only be active when VFO-B is selected. Any > comments? > > Thanks, > > Bill W2BLC > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- 73, Gary K9GS Greater Milwaukee DX Association: http://www.gmdxa.org Society of Midwest Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com CW Ops #1032 http://www.cwops.org ************************************************ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Not going to hold my breath - will order a spare encoder and do it
myself. If it works FB, and I see no reason it will not, I'll post more info after I do the install. Bill W2BLC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Me too!!! My IC746 works that way and it is very handy for moving up the
band...seems like it would be very well suited to a firmware enhancement ;-) VY 73, Lance On 1/6/2013 12:41 AM, Barry wrote: > I'd like to see the tuning rate accelerate after a few turns of the knob. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-suggestion-tp7568165p7568273.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Lance Collister, W7GJ (ex WA3GPL, WA1JXN, WA1JXN/C6A, ZF2OC/ZF8, E51SIX, 3D2LR, 5W0GJ, E6M) P.O. Box 73 Frenchtown, MT 59834-0073 USA TEL: (406) 626-5728 QTH: DN27ub URL: http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj Windows Messenger: [hidden email] Skype: lanceW7GJ 2m DXCC #11/6m DXCC #815 Interested in 6m EME? Ask me about subscribing to the Magic Band EME email group, or just fill in the request box at the bottom of my web page (above)! ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: K3 Remote VFO tuning control
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K9SD already makes this device...
Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch Staunton, Illinois email: [hidden email] -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bill Clarke Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 8:54 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Remote VFO tuning control I would like to see a remote tuning device (VFO control only) that can be moved around the desk etc. It needs to be simple - such as an extra VFO encoder mounted in a box and on a wire in parallel to the existing VFO-B encoder. Elegant by simplicity - it could plug into a jack installed on the bottom edge of the front panel (or simply a 5-conductor line brought out from VFO-B). I may be wrong, but I sure don't look at this as rocket science - it is all mechanical and a little soldering. It would only be active when VFO-B is selected. Any comments? Thanks, Bill W2BLC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by W7GJ, Lance
A number of us on this group pushed for 'Icom tuning' (ballistic tuning I
think it was called) some years back, around the time that the K3 was first being talked about. Unfortunately there were plenty of folks who didn't want it, including Wayne as far as I can remember! I thoroughly appreciated it on my Icom 7400. 73 Stephen G4SJP On 6 January 2013 04:31, Lance Collister, W7GJ <[hidden email]> wrote: > Me too!!! My IC746 works that way and it is very handy for moving up the > band...seems like it would be very well suited to a firmware enhancement > ;-) VY 73, Lance > > > > > > On 1/6/2013 12:41 AM, Barry wrote: > >> I'd like to see the tuning rate accelerate after a few turns of the knob. >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.** >> nabble.com/K3-suggestion-**tp7568165p7568273.html<http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-suggestion-tp7568165p7568273.html> >> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> ______________________________**______________________________**__ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/elecraft<http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htm<http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> >> Post: mailto:[hidden email].**net <[hidden email]> >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> > > -- > Lance Collister, W7GJ > (ex WA3GPL, WA1JXN, WA1JXN/C6A, ZF2OC/ZF8, E51SIX, 3D2LR, 5W0GJ, E6M) > P.O. Box 73 > Frenchtown, MT 59834-0073 > USA > TEL: (406) 626-5728 > QTH: DN27ub > URL: http://www.bigskyspaces.com/**w7gj <http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj> > Windows Messenger: [hidden email] > Skype: lanceW7GJ > 2m DXCC #11/6m DXCC #815 > > Interested in 6m EME? Ask me about subscribing to the Magic Band EME > email group, or just fill in the request box at the bottom of my web > page (above)! > > > ______________________________**______________________________**__ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/elecraft<http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htm<http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> > Post: mailto:[hidden email].**net <[hidden email]> > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by Charles Woods
As a new user I agree with your list but would add
AGC settings to be set by Mode Andy G4HUE serial 6990 |
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In reply to this post by Dr. William J. Schmidt, II
I did a search for the suggested callsign and the term K3 (as well as
other terms) and found very little information. Seems there was a flurry of postings some time back (years ago) and not much since. Can I assume the project never came to fruition? Or, is there an obscure website that does not pop-up during a search? Thanks, Bill W2BLC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Of note: I tried sending an email to the callsign suggested - it bounced.
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In reply to this post by Bill Clarke
try K6TD and K6TU this is now produced and marketed for Flex radio
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/april2011/flexcontrol.htm On 1/6/2013 9:06 AM, Bill Clarke wrote: > I did a search for the suggested callsign and the term K3 (as well as > other terms) and found very little information. Seems there was a > flurry of postings some time back (years ago) and not much since. Can > I assume the project never came to fruition? Or, is there an obscure > website that does not pop-up during a search? > > Thanks, > > Bill W2BLC > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Interesting - I have emailed both and looked at the page you linked.
Seems this is directed towards the Flex radios. Not sure how this would apply to the K3. Currently, I use V5 of HRD and chase a mouse and mouse wheel. It works, however, is not a tuning knob as such. I sit in a recliner much of the time, that is why I am seeking a remote tuning knob. I cannot reach the VFO knob on the K3 from my chair. Thanks for the leads - we'll see what develops from them. Bill W2BLC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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