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Atsu, see http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/yada-yada.html
The term "yada yada" became popular after its use in the tv comedy show "Seinfeld". It's a humorous way to say "etcetera etcetera" 73, Barry N1EU _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In a message dated 2/6/08 10:27:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes: > The term "yada yada" became popular after its use in the tv comedy > show "Seinfeld". Not that there's anything wrong with that! 73 de Jim, N2EY ************** Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300000002548) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Barry and Jim
Thank you for interesting info. It's very informative for improvement of my vocabulary. 73 de JE1TRV, Atsu Tokyo Japan KX1 #248 K1 #1082 K2/100 #4255 K3:asking Eric to accept direct order from JA _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hi group,
Having placed an order for a K3 in mid January, can anyone give me a clue as to approximately what will the delay be between now and delivery might be?? Cheers, Andy http://gd0tep.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Keep your eye on http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm
Sometime in May by that page On 7/2/08 13:51, "gd0tep" <[hidden email]> sent: > Hi group, > > Having placed an order for a K3 in mid January, can anyone give me a clue as > to approximately what will the delay be between now and delivery might be?? -- He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a fool forever. -Chinese proverb _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Andy,
I think everything is pushed back at least a month. O ordered mine in mid-December, and the website siad it was slated for March. I just asked Lisa at Elecraft, and she said it had been pushed back to April, so what I take from that is whatever the website says, add at least a month to it Mike, N4GW -------------- Original message from "gd0tep" <[hidden email]>: -------------- > Hi group, > > Having placed an order for a K3 in mid January, can anyone give me a clue as > to approximately what will the delay be between now and delivery might be?? > > Cheers, > > Andy > http://gd0tep.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Oooh, Andy,
What a question. Little do you know, that very topic has caused untold strife and fighting on the list. I believe the answer to your question is "no", as in "no, nobody can predict how long it will be before your rig is delivered". The great folks at Elecraft excel at radio engineering but have been horribly wrong when it comes to predicting production delays. I ordered my rig in August. They said they'd ship in Dec. Then they said Jan. Now I think it's March. I'm actually expecting it to be in my hands in May but am prepared for them to surprise me as early as March. - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - - K3 Wave 3 - -----Original Message----- Having placed an order for a K3 in mid January, can anyone give me a clue as to approximately what will the delay be between now and delivery might be?? Cheers, Andy http://gd0tep.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hello,
I have a K1, which I like. I was thinking about getting a K2 while waiting for my K3 (ordered 27 Dec). I went to the E-ham web page and read some of the reviews. There are a lot of people who really do not think too much of the K2. One or two might be some crack pot, but there are a whole bunch of not happy users. All of the magazine reviews seem to love it. Comments on why the ratings have so many unhappy K2 users? The worst are the users using the K2/100 and most complaints seem to be it's ability on SSB. I guess it was originally designed for a CW rig, so don't expect good performance on SSB?. The reports on the K1 and K3 are glowing. http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/2357 Best, DW Holtman WB7SSN elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Set up the K2 SSB filters properly for SSB (see my website K2 dial
calibration article at http://w3fpr.qrpradio.com) and use a high output microphone such as the Elecraft MH2 and you will find the K2 a pleasure to use on SSB. With an added mic preamp, even low output microphones such as the Heil HC-4 and HC-5 element microphones work great. The K2 does have one SSB shortcoming, and that is in the VOX - there is no anti-VOX, so VOX performance may be lacking a bit because of it. I use PTT for SSB almost exclusively and have no problems. The K2 does enjoy very good SSB carrier suppression, and can be a very good SSB transceiver if it is set up properly - unfortunately, many K2s are not set up properly and the 'bad press' is a result. The BFO/filter relationship is critical to the setup required - again see my website for optimum filter settings for SSB - the low frequency corner of the filter bandpass must be close to 300 Hz. 73, Don W3FPR DW Holtman wrote: > Hello, > > I have a K1, which I like. I was thinking about getting a K2 while > waiting for my K3 (ordered 27 Dec). I went to the E-ham web page and > read some of the reviews. There are a lot of people who really do not > think too much of the K2. One or two might be some crack pot, but > there are a whole bunch of not happy users. All of the magazine > reviews seem to love it. > > Comments on why the ratings have so many unhappy K2 users? The worst > are the users using the K2/100 and most complaints seem to be it's > ability on SSB. I guess it was originally designed for a CW rig, so > don't expect good performance on SSB?. The reports on the K1 and K3 > are glowing. > > http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/2357 > > Best, > DW Holtman > WB7SSN > elecraft.com > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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If you read the reviews, mine is the 2nd from the top. Not a lot of
reviews in the last year or so. I stated there what I think of the rig so I won't repeat it here. The K2 is not a typical rig and those who expect a typical rig would do better with an Ikensu. K2 really optimizes RX performance which apparently, some don't value as much as "the ability to sweep the VFO during SWR checks". - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - - K3 Wave 3 - -----Original Message----- I was thinking about getting a K2 ... I went to the E-ham web page and read some of the reviews. There are a lot of people who really do not think too much of the K2. Comments on why the ratings have so many unhappy K2 users? Best, DW Holtman _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I agree. Most of the reviews are from SSB operators, and the complaints on
filters are probably because they are not adjusted correctly. The problems listed are alignment issues. I use my K2 with a Heil HM-5, and get great audio reports with the standard SSB bandwidth. Mike AI4NS _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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According to WB7SSN: "I went to the E-ham web page
and read some of the reviews. There are a lot of people who really do not think too much of the K2. One or two might be some crack pot, but there are a whole bunch of not happy users. All of the magazine reviews seem to love it. Comments on why the ratings have so many unhappy K2 users? I went to the eHam site, too. Here's what I observed. The K2 has reviews in two categories under Transceivers, HF. The category "K2" had 127 reviews, with an average rating of 4.9/5.0. My review is one of those 127, currently on page 2. The category, "K2/100" had 73 reviews with an average rating of 4.7/5.0. Under the category "QRP radios," there are 75 more reviews of the K2, with an average score of 4.9/5.0. Those numbers tell me there are a lot of very happy owners/builders of the K2, and very few "unhappy K2 users." As far as the reasons that the few are less than pleased, why not simply read the reviews for yourself? Just cut and paste all reviews in those three places that gave the K2 a less than perfect score of five. You won't have much reading to do. 73, Chuck Guenther NI0C K2/10 s/n 5853 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hello,
If you would have read the rest of the E-Mail, I commented that the majority of the low ratings were for the K2/100 dealing with SSB. That was my question, not the reviews on the K2 QRP version of E-Ham. Best, DW Holtman WB7SSN ----- Original Message ----- From: "ni0c" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:15 AM Subject: [Elecraft] re: K2 According to WB7SSN: "I went to the E-ham web page and read some of the reviews. There are a lot of people who really do not think too much of the K2. One or two might be some crack pot, but there are a whole bunch of not happy users. All of the magazine reviews seem to love it. Comments on why the ratings have so many unhappy K2 users? I went to the eHam site, too. Here's what I observed. The K2 has reviews in two categories under Transceivers, HF. The category "K2" had 127 reviews, with an average rating of 4.9/5.0. My review is one of those 127, currently on page 2. The category, "K2/100" had 73 reviews with an average rating of 4.7/5.0. Under the category "QRP radios," there are 75 more reviews of the K2, with an average score of 4.9/5.0. Those numbers tell me there are a lot of very happy owners/builders of the K2, and very few "unhappy K2 users." As far as the reasons that the few are less than pleased, why not simply read the reviews for yourself? Just cut and paste all reviews in those three places that gave the K2 a less than perfect score of five. You won't have much reading to do. 73, Chuck Guenther NI0C K2/10 s/n 5853 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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DW:
As one of the Elecraft list members told me some years back, the few disgruntled users are much more likely to post to eham than the many happy ones. It does seem to be a watering hole for people whose favorite sound is that of their own voice raised in complaint. With over 5000 rigs out there, there is no doubt a handfull of users who are not happy. I have had a K2 for two years. In my 44 years of hamming, it is by far the best rig I ever used. I cannot comment on SSB; I'm strictly CW, and do not have (nor need) the SSB module. 73, Steve _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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It might be that in addition to low ratings caused by improper alignment,
some of the low ratings are from people who push the ALC too hard when using SSB. One bar just flickering is plenty enough for my K2/100 #3255 which has none of the 'official' modifications installed. 73, Geoff GM4ESD . DW Holtman <[hidden email]> wrote on Friday, February 08, 2008 at 2:29 PM > Hello, > > If you would have read the rest of the E-Mail, I commented that the > majority of the low ratings were for the K2/100 dealing with SSB. That was > my question, not the reviews on the K2 QRP version of E-Ham. > > Best, > DW Holtman > WB7SSN _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Gee DW - Those who have said in their review that they are unhappy have also
said why they are unhappy. If you want more information on their evaluation, why not just ask them? Seems pretty simple. Very few on the reflector are mind readers! '73 -- Don N4HH <SNIP> Hello, If you would have read the rest of the E-Mail, I commented that the majority of the low ratings were for the K2/100 dealing with SSB. That was my question, not the reviews on the K2 QRP version of E-Ham. Best, DW Holtman WB7SSN ----- Original Message ----- From: "ni0c" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:15 AM Subject: [Elecraft] re: K2 According to WB7SSN: "I went to the E-ham web page and read some of the reviews. There are a lot of people who really do not think too much of the K2. One or two might be some crack pot, but there are a whole bunch of not happy users. All of the magazine reviews seem to love it. Comments on why the ratings have so many unhappy K2 users? I went to the eHam site, too. Here's what I observed. The K2 has reviews in two categories under Transceivers, HF. The category "K2" had 127 reviews, with an average rating of 4.9/5.0. My review is one of those 127, currently on page 2. The category, "K2/100" had 73 reviews with an average rating of 4.7/5.0. Under the category "QRP radios," there are 75 more reviews of the K2, with an average score of 4.9/5.0. Those numbers tell me there are a lot of very happy owners/builders of the K2, and very few "unhappy K2 users." As far as the reasons that the few are less than pleased, why not simply read the reviews for yourself? Just cut and paste all reviews in those three places that gave the K2 a less than perfect score of five. You won't have much reading to do. 73, Chuck Guenther NI0C K2/10 s/n 5853 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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This is a reply to the original message, but since the K2 is a kit,
there are lots of ways to screw it up. And you know how it's never the user's fault when there are problems. Just my guess. My K2 worked like crap because I broke RFC15 (and I have lots of building experience) but I was able to debug the problem with all the test equipment I had available. I'm sure if I just went bulldozing ahead without figuring out what was wrong, I would have thought the K2 was at fault. (It was ALMOST working.) On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Darwin, Keith wrote: > If you read the reviews, mine is the 2nd from the top. Not a lot of > reviews in the last year or so. I stated there what I think of the rig > so I won't repeat it here. > > The K2 is not a typical rig and those who expect a typical rig would do > better with an Ikensu. K2 really optimizes RX performance which > apparently, some don't value as much as "the ability to sweep the VFO > during SWR checks". > > - Keith N1AS - > - K2 5411.ssb.100 - > - K3 Wave 3 - > > -----Original Message----- > I was thinking about getting a K2 ... I went to the E-ham web page and > read some of the reviews. There are a lot of people who really do not > think too much of the K2. > > Comments on why the ratings have so many unhappy K2 users? > > Best, > DW Holtman > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - [hidden email] BSEE(6/86) + BSChem(3/95) + BAEnglish(8/95) + MSCS(8/03) + $2.50 = latte _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Dear Mr. Holtman.
The K2 for ssb use is a kit rig that isn't finished when last component is soldered. It take some tweeking of filters and on air play to fineadjust this beauty. Don's approach is a good start. The mic is of high importance. Myself wasn't to happy for a long time and I didn't bother to put my review on eham before I have played the rig for some time. I got normal reports on standard BW with MH2 mic. No wow! reports , but OK. I then decided to make the change to 2,6 khz bw and had to take my playtime all over again. For me that was the fun part. After some play the reports changed. It now was : " Is that a K2? I wouldn't have guessed! You sound like any other rig and I can hear the heil element. " The heil has a special sound that is OK for casual ragchew and great for DX. I've heard some cheap mic on air and that can work both ways , but the ones I've heard isn't good. Cheap PC headphones and so one. And don't throw away those qrp reviews. SSB sound the same with or without the KPA100 so you should take them seriously. But one thing I think we can agree on. The K2 will never be a substitute for K3. ( Think that's one of the reasons they designed the K3). But when propperly set up , you will make the qso and not one will ask you what the heck your using. Take in mind that many reviews on eham are premature. Both the good and the bad ones. Tom LA1PHA K2/100 3829 2,6khz fully loaded. ----- Original Message ----- From: "DW Holtman" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 5:31 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K2 > Hello, > > I have a K1, which I like. I was thinking about getting a K2 while waiting > for my K3 (ordered 27 Dec). I went to the E-ham web page and read some of > the reviews. There are a lot of people who really do not think too much of > the K2. One or two might be some crack pot, but there are a whole bunch of > not happy users. All of the magazine reviews seem to love it. > -- Jeg bruker gratisversjonen av SPAMfighter for privatbrukere. Den har fjernet 316 søppelpostmeldinger til nå. Betalende brukere har ikke denne meldingen i e-postene sine. Få tak i SPAMfighter gratis her: http://www.spamfighter.com/lno _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I agree that the listening tests are essential. My approach without using
Spectrogram was to measure the frequency response of the KSB2 and transmitter audio circuits combined, without compression, to get a rough idea as to what the BFO frequency should be. I then 'tweaked' the BFO frequency for 'good sound' using a direct conversion receiver with wide AF filter together with an audio recorder, while speaking into a HC-5 mic element part of a Heil ProSet Plus at different compression settings. The final 'tweak' of BFO frequency was done with the compression at the setting I use. Reports have been good using the stock 2.1 kHz filter. BTW Ron, my K2/100 appears to be a 'Monday morning' version as a HC-5 in boom mike will drive it easily to full rated pep without an external audio preamp, but I do not use VOX with the K2. 73, Geoff GM4ESD Original Message from: Ron D'Eau Claire <[hidden email]> I have found it impossible to reliably set my BFO frequency in the proper place for SSB operation using only Spectrogram. Spectrogram is invaluable for the first adjustment. I can get close with it, but to have audio that I like, it's necessary to do the last step recommended in the KSB2 manual: make the fine adjustments listening to my own signal. Not the "monitor", but my actual signal on an auxiliary receiver. Either that or work a buddy I trust and do the final adjustment "on the air". I found that the adjustment is much more critical using the stock 2.1 kHz SSB filter bandwidth. While that bandwidth is ideal for maximum "talk power" when signals are not strong, if the passband is just a little too low, the audio sounds muffled. If it is too high the audio sounds "pinched", missing important low frequencies. I later opened up the bandwidth to 2.6 kHz bandwidth with the SSBCAPKIT. That made the BFO alignment a lot less critical, but I still found that actual listening tests for the final adjustments were essential. Ron AC7AC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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