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K3EXREF

Jim Sheldon
Tracking number I got from Lisa says it is supposed to be here today.  Mail man should be here in a few minutes, so, following the instructions in the downloadable manual, I have the K3 opened up and ready to do the install.  The hardest part of the whole thing will be re-installing that split lockwasher on the backside of the KREF3 board once the external reference mod has been mounted.  Everything else is a piece of cake.  (Actually, I have a magnetized pair of long tweezers that should do the job nicely.)

As I was writing this, the mailman brought the package.  Time involved in opening the rig - between 5 and 7 minutes.  I had already loosened the KREF3 board and retrieved the lockwasher.  Mounted the SMA jack on the back panel, ran the cable, mounted the board & hardware per instructions, plugged in the cable and buttoned up the radio.  Total time just shy of 20 minutes, not counting the study time of the manual prior to beginning.  Another minute to set up the menu item and make sure it was working and still 20 minutes or less total time.  Well written instructions and very easy to install the board, even with my poor eyesight.

The Trimble Thunderbolt has been running for a bit over a month now and a friend of mine gave me a real nice 3' long cable with SMA connectors on both ends that will match up perfectly.  -

I did notice one anomaly.  Once the * symbol started flashing, moving away from the REF CAL left the 4th character from the left in the VFO B display window flashing for every entry in the CONFIG menu.  Once you exit MENU mode and re-enter it, the flashing stops until you again look at the REF CAL item at which time it starts flashing again.  This is only a minor bug, but I thought it should at least be called to the attention of the programmers.

Jim - W0EB
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Re: K3EXREF

David Pratt
I am unable to reproduce the anomaly here, Jim.  I have checked ALARM,
MIC+LIN and ANTIVOX and all the characters are perfectly steady.
[Firmware:  4.36, DSP 2.14, FL 1.14]

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Jim Sheldon <[hidden email]> writes
>I did notice one anomaly.  Once the * symbol started flashing, moving
>away from the REF CAL left the 4th character from the left in the VFO B
>display window flashing for every entry in the CONFIG menu.  Once you
>exit MENU mode and re-enter it, the flashing stops until you again look
>at the REF CAL item at which time it starts flashing again.
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Re: K3EXREF

Matt Zilmer
Brendan also caught this...

matt

On Tue, 31 May 2011 19:19:20 +0100, you wrote:

>I am unable to reproduce the anomaly here, Jim.  I have checked ALARM,
>MIC+LIN and ANTIVOX and all the characters are perfectly steady.
>[Firmware:  4.36, DSP 2.14, FL 1.14]
>
>73 de David G4DMP
>
>In a recent message, Jim Sheldon <[hidden email]> writes
>>I did notice one anomaly.  Once the * symbol started flashing, moving
>>away from the REF CAL left the 4th character from the left in the VFO B
>>display window flashing for every entry in the CONFIG menu.  Once you
>>exit MENU mode and re-enter it, the flashing stops until you again look
>>at the REF CAL item at which time it starts flashing again.
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Re: K3EXREF

k.igor
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Jim,
I installed the K3EXREF today. I agree with everything you wrote. Good pair
of tweezers took care of the lock washer. The anomaly is present exactly as
you described. Not affecting performance, but it is there. I have MCU=4.36,
FPF=1.14, DSP1=DSP2=2.73.
73,
Igor, N1YX

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jim Sheldon
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 12:57 PM
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Subject: [Elecraft] K3EXREF

Tracking number I got from Lisa says it is supposed to be here today.  Mail
man should be here in a few minutes, so, following the instructions in the
downloadable manual, I have the K3 opened up and ready to do the install.
The hardest part of the whole thing will be re-installing that split
lockwasher on the backside of the KREF3 board once the external reference
mod has been mounted.  Everything else is a piece of cake.  (Actually, I
have a magnetized pair of long tweezers that should do the job nicely.)

As I was writing this, the mailman brought the package.  Time involved in
opening the rig - between 5 and 7 minutes.  I had already loosened the KREF3
board and retrieved the lockwasher.  Mounted the SMA jack on the back panel,
ran the cable, mounted the board & hardware per instructions, plugged in the
cable and buttoned up the radio.  Total time just shy of 20 minutes, not
counting the study time of the manual prior to beginning.  Another minute to
set up the menu item and make sure it was working and still 20 minutes or
less total time.  Well written instructions and very easy to install the
board, even with my poor eyesight.

The Trimble Thunderbolt has been running for a bit over a month now and a
friend of mine gave me a real nice 3' long cable with SMA connectors on both
ends that will match up perfectly.  -

I did notice one anomaly.  Once the * symbol started flashing, moving away
from the REF CAL left the 4th character from the left in the VFO B display
window flashing for every entry in the CONFIG menu.  Once you exit MENU mode
and re-enter it, the flashing stops until you again look at the REF CAL item
at which time it starts flashing again.  This is only a minor bug, but I
thought it should at least be called to the attention of the programmers.

Jim - W0EB
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Re: K3EXREF

Brett Howard
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This was a known bug that was found in field test.  I submitted it to
Wayne and he's all over it.

~Brett

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Igor Kosvin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Jim,
> I installed the K3EXREF today. I agree with everything you wrote. Good pair
> of tweezers took care of the lock washer. The anomaly is present exactly as
> you described. Not affecting performance, but it is there. I have MCU=4.36,
> FPF=1.14, DSP1=DSP2=2.73.
> 73,
> Igor, N1YX
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jim Sheldon
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 12:57 PM
> To: Elecraft Mailing List
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3EXREF
>
> Tracking number I got from Lisa says it is supposed to be here today.  Mail
> man should be here in a few minutes, so, following the instructions in the
> downloadable manual, I have the K3 opened up and ready to do the install.
> The hardest part of the whole thing will be re-installing that split
> lockwasher on the backside of the KREF3 board once the external reference
> mod has been mounted.  Everything else is a piece of cake.  (Actually, I
> have a magnetized pair of long tweezers that should do the job nicely.)
>
> As I was writing this, the mailman brought the package.  Time involved in
> opening the rig - between 5 and 7 minutes.  I had already loosened the KREF3
> board and retrieved the lockwasher.  Mounted the SMA jack on the back panel,
> ran the cable, mounted the board & hardware per instructions, plugged in the
> cable and buttoned up the radio.  Total time just shy of 20 minutes, not
> counting the study time of the manual prior to beginning.  Another minute to
> set up the menu item and make sure it was working and still 20 minutes or
> less total time.  Well written instructions and very easy to install the
> board, even with my poor eyesight.
>
> The Trimble Thunderbolt has been running for a bit over a month now and a
> friend of mine gave me a real nice 3' long cable with SMA connectors on both
> ends that will match up perfectly.  -
>
> I did notice one anomaly.  Once the * symbol started flashing, moving away
> from the REF CAL left the 4th character from the left in the VFO B display
> window flashing for every entry in the CONFIG menu.  Once you exit MENU mode
> and re-enter it, the flashing stops until you again look at the REF CAL item
> at which time it starts flashing again.  This is only a minor bug, but I
> thought it should at least be called to the attention of the programmers.
>
> Jim - W0EB
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Re: K3EXREF

David Pratt
I am still unable to reproduce the anomaly here, Brett, Igor and others.
I am using the latest firmware and have tried both sinusoidal and TTL
reference inputs.

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Brett Howard <[hidden email]> wrote ...

>
>This was a known bug that was found in field test.  I submitted it to
>Wayne and he's all over it.
>
>~Brett
>
>On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Igor Kosvin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Jim,
>> I installed the K3EXREF today. I agree with everything you wrote. Good pair
>> of tweezers took care of the lock washer. The anomaly is present exactly as
>> you described. Not affecting performance, but it is there. I have MCU=4.36,
>> FPF=1.14, DSP1=DSP2=2.73.
>> 73,
>> Igor, N1YX
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Re: K3EXREF

Jim Sheldon
David,
The exact conditions the anomaly occurs under are:  Tech mode ON, external reference 10 MHz signal connected and operating, go to MENU CONFIG, REF CAL (only available with tech mode on) and watch for the blinking asterisk.  If it is NOT blinking, the problem won't appear.  While the asterisk is blinking, use the VFO B control and go to any other menu item that has at least 4 letters in the VFO B portion of the display.  The 4th one will blink (same display position that the asterisk was in) and continue to do so in any other menu item that has at least 4 letters displayed in the VFO B window (only that window).  Once you exit the MENU CONFIG mode, the blinking will stop and not re-occur until you again display REF CAL long enough to see the blinking asterisk.

It does not affect the performance, only the display as far as I can determine.

Jim - W0EB

> I am still unable to reproduce the anomaly here, Brett, Igor and
> others.
> I am using the latest firmware and have tried both sinusoidal and
> TTL
> reference inputs.
>
> 73 de David G4DMP
>
> In a recent message, Brett Howard <[hidden email]> wrote
> ...
>
>> This was a known bug that was found in field test.  I submitted
>> it to
>> Wayne and he's all over it.
>>
>> ~Brett
>>
>> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Igor Kosvin
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Jim,
>>> I installed the K3EXREF today. I agree with everything you
>>> wrote. Good pair
>>> of tweezers took care of the lock washer. The anomaly is
>>> present exactly as
>>> you described. Not affecting performance, but it is there. I
>>> have MCU=4.36,
>>> FPF=1.14, DSP1=DSP2=2.73.
>>> 73,
>>> Igor, N1YX
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Re: K3EXREF

David Pratt
Thank you, Jim, and yes, I can confirm that I am getting the phenomenon.
I can't say that I had come across the problem previously. In fact it's
quite a useful feature in that it reinforces the fact that the K3 is
locked even when looking at other Config Tech settings.  In some ways, I
hope that Elecraft do not correct the minibug ;-)

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Jim Sheldon <[hidden email]> writes

>
>David,
>The exact conditions the anomaly occurs under are:  Tech mode ON,
>external reference 10 MHz signal connected and operating, go to MENU
>CONFIG, REF CAL (only available with tech mode on) and watch for the
>blinking asterisk.  If it is NOT blinking, the problem won't appear.
>While the asterisk is blinking, use the VFO B control and go to any
>other menu item that has at least 4 letters in the VFO B portion of the
>display.  The 4th one will blink (same display position that the
>asterisk was in) and continue to do so in any other menu item that has
>at least 4 letters displayed in the VFO B window (only that window).
>Once you exit the MENU CONFIG mode, the blinking will stop and not re-
>occur until you again display REF CAL long enough to see the blinking
>asterisk.
>
>It does not affect the performance, only the display as far as I can determine.
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