K3S Build Progress: 1st power-on
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Well the Assembly so far has gone pretty well; other than the odd hardware
dance. This is an area that can be improved dramatically without being overly complex. There's apparently one set of Stainless hardware and the rest are zinc. I infer from the assembly that all (or nearly all) hardware that is on the OUTSIDE or mates to outside screws/bolts is stainless. Everything internal ONLY is zinc. My Hints/Tips: 1. Wear surgical/rubber gloves - During assembly I suggest wearing thin rubber gloves (lowes, home depot..etc.. ). That helps keep oil/fingerprints off of everything and you get a slight better grip. 2. Use a magnetic parts tray - even for the SS hardware it helps as they have some slight carbon content. 3. Use a magnetic tipped screwdriver. 4. User gravity to put/keep washers on the screws - don't be afraid to pick up the assembly you're working on and position it such that gravity helps keep parts where they need to be. Keep it Simply Simple. 5. Work in a well-lighted area and I'd even suggest a desk/work lamp. I have plenty of light in my office and the addition of a desk lamp made a dramatic difference to my work. 6. Don't mix bags - keep hardware from one bag in it's own container. Don't mix zinc and stainless J 7. Don't be distracted - ask the wife, kids, pets, ..etc.. to leave you be for a bit. I had to dis-assemble/re-assemble the front panel several times because my better half wanted to share details of something. Being that she has the higher priority I listened and inadvertently assembled some parts incorrectly and caught it on verification. Well I'm past the resistance and first power-on test. Just need to figure out if/how they packed the TCXO. I have the KREF3 module but can't locate the TCXO.. not many parts left, 3 modules, the 100w PA and sheet metal mmmm. Jerry Moore AE4PB, K3S SN# 10324 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Also using a bath towel under your work helps grab those little parts that
amazingly grow legs and wander or jump off. On Thursday, September 17, 2015, [hidden email] < [hidden email]> wrote: > Well the Assembly so far has gone pretty well; other than the odd hardware > dance. This is an area that can be improved dramatically without being > overly complex. There's apparently one set of Stainless hardware and the > rest are zinc. I infer from the assembly that all (or nearly all) hardware > that is on the OUTSIDE or mates to outside screws/bolts is stainless. > Everything internal ONLY is zinc. > > > > My Hints/Tips: > > 1. Wear surgical/rubber gloves - During assembly I suggest wearing thin > rubber gloves (lowes, home depot..etc.. ). That helps keep oil/fingerprints > off of everything and you get a slight better grip. > > 2. Use a magnetic parts tray - even for the SS hardware it helps as they > have some slight carbon content. > > 3. Use a magnetic tipped screwdriver. > > 4. User gravity to put/keep washers on the screws - don't be afraid to > pick up the assembly you're working on and position it such that gravity > helps keep parts where they need to be. Keep it Simply Simple. > > 5. Work in a well-lighted area and I'd even suggest a desk/work lamp. I > have plenty of light in my office and the addition of a desk lamp made a > dramatic difference to my work. > > 6. Don't mix bags - keep hardware from one bag in it's own container. > Don't mix zinc and stainless J > > 7. Don't be distracted - ask the wife, kids, pets, ..etc.. to leave you > be > for a bit. I had to dis-assemble/re-assemble the front panel several times > because my better half wanted to share details of something. Being that she > has the higher priority I listened and inadvertently assembled some parts > incorrectly and caught it on verification. > > > > Well I'm past the resistance and first power-on test. Just need to figure > out if/how they packed the TCXO. I have the KREF3 module but can't locate > the TCXO.. not many parts left, 3 modules, the 100w PA and sheet metal > mmmm. > > > > > > Jerry Moore > > AE4PB, K3S SN# 10324 > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] <javascript:;> > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] <javascript:;> > -- Rick, W8ZT Sent from Gmail Mobile ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Ah yes. The lemming washers.
73, Mike NF4L > On Sep 17, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Rick Robinson <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Also using a bath towel under your work helps grab those little parts that > amazingly grow legs and wander or jump off. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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The assembly manual is quite clear when it calls for SS (stainless
steel) hardware. RE: surgical rubber gloves - I would advise against that. The purpose of the anti-static mats and ESD percautions would be defeated by the use of any insulating material between you and the boards you are handling. Remember the whole purpose is to keep everything at the same potential. Remember the old high school physics experiment of the rubber rod and the silk cloth? The TCXO is probably in a small box protected by conductive foam. 73s, Jim, W4ATK On 9/17/2015 7:30 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > Well the Assembly so far has gone pretty well; other than the odd hardware > dance. This is an area that can be improved dramatically without being > overly complex. There's apparently one set of Stainless hardware and the > rest are zinc. I infer from the assembly that all (or nearly all) hardware > that is on the OUTSIDE or mates to outside screws/bolts is stainless. > Everything internal ONLY is zinc. > > > > My Hints/Tips: > > 1. Wear surgical/rubber gloves - During assembly I suggest wearing thin > rubber gloves (lowes, home depot..etc.. ). That helps keep oil/fingerprints > off of everything and you get a slight better grip. > > 2. Use a magnetic parts tray - even for the SS hardware it helps as they > have some slight carbon content. > > 3. Use a magnetic tipped screwdriver. > > 4. User gravity to put/keep washers on the screws - don't be afraid to > pick up the assembly you're working on and position it such that gravity > helps keep parts where they need to be. Keep it Simply Simple. > > 5. Work in a well-lighted area and I'd even suggest a desk/work lamp. I > have plenty of light in my office and the addition of a desk lamp made a > dramatic difference to my work. > > 6. Don't mix bags - keep hardware from one bag in it's own container. > Don't mix zinc and stainless J > > 7. Don't be distracted - ask the wife, kids, pets, ..etc.. to leave you be > for a bit. I had to dis-assemble/re-assemble the front panel several times > because my better half wanted to share details of something. Being that she > has the higher priority I listened and inadvertently assembled some parts > incorrectly and caught it on verification. > > > > Well I'm past the resistance and first power-on test. Just need to figure > out if/how they packed the TCXO. I have the KREF3 module but can't locate > the TCXO.. not many parts left, 3 modules, the 100w PA and sheet metal mmmm. > > > > > > Jerry Moore > > AE4PB, K3S SN# 10324 > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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And if you have one, ask the cat to stay away. Why you ask?
Ha, mine relocated several parts and water boarding, threats, pleading, shaking....didn't do a damn bit of good. Gary -----Original Message----- From: "Jim Rogers" <[hidden email]> Sent: 17/09/2015 10:54 PM To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Build Progress: 1st power-on The assembly manual is quite clear when it calls for SS (stainless steel) hardware. RE: surgical rubber gloves - I would advise against that. The purpose of the anti-static mats and ESD percautions would be defeated by the use of any insulating material between you and the boards you are handling. Remember the whole purpose is to keep everything at the same potential. Remember the old high school physics experiment of the rubber rod and the silk cloth? The TCXO is probably in a small box protected by conductive foam. 73s, Jim, W4ATK On 9/17/2015 7:30 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > Well the Assembly so far has gone pretty well; other than the odd hardware > dance. This is an area that can be improved dramatically without being > overly complex. There's apparently one set of Stainless hardware and the > rest are zinc. I infer from the assembly that all (or nearly all) hardware > that is on the OUTSIDE or mates to outside screws/bolts is stainless. > Everything internal ONLY is zinc. > > > > My Hints/Tips: > > 1. Wear surgical/rubber gloves - During assembly I suggest wearing thin > rubber gloves (lowes, home depot..etc.. ). That helps keep oil/fingerprints > off of everything and you get a slight better grip. > > 2. Use a magnetic parts tray - even for the SS hardware it helps as they > have some slight carbon content. > > 3. Use a magnetic tipped screwdriver. > > 4. User gravity to put/keep washers on the screws - don't be afraid to > pick up the assembly you're working on and position it such that gravity > helps keep parts where they need to be. Keep it Simply Simple. > > 5. Work in a well-lighted area and I'd even suggest a desk/work lamp. I > have plenty of light in my office and the addition of a desk lamp made a > dramatic difference to my work. > > 6. Don't mix bags - keep hardware from one bag in it's own container. > Don't mix zinc and stainless J > > 7. Don't be distracted - ask the wife, kids, pets, ..etc.. to leave you be > for a bit. I had to dis-assemble/re-assemble the front panel several times > because my better half wanted to share details of something. Being that she > has the higher priority I listened and inadvertently assembled some parts > incorrectly and caught it on verification. > > > > Well I'm past the resistance and first power-on test. Just need to figure > out if/how they packed the TCXO. I have the KREF3 module but can't locate > the TCXO.. not many parts left, 3 modules, the 100w PA and sheet metal mmmm. > > > > > > Jerry Moore > > AE4PB, K3S SN# 10324 > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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And, it couldn’t hurt to use an anti-static mat.
73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 > On Sep 17, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Rick Robinson <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Also using a bath towel under your work helps grab those little parts that > amazingly grow legs and wander or jump off. > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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The small box appears to be missing for the TCXO. I've gone through the
bubble wrap jungle twice. On the gloves. My static mat is grounded via the static lead, The work piece is grounded via a static lead to the mat, and I'm grounded to the mat via another lead. It's a real world static sensitive assembly setup. I've seen this done in manufacturing so I'm not sure where any ESD precautions are defeated. I've even seen the work lead left off in manufacturing. I added just because. *shrug*..maybe I missed something. Jerry Moore AE4PB, K3S Sn. 10324 -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jim Rogers Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:54 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Build Progress: 1st power-on The assembly manual is quite clear when it calls for SS (stainless steel) hardware. RE: surgical rubber gloves - I would advise against that. The purpose of the anti-static mats and ESD percautions would be defeated by the use of any insulating material between you and the boards you are handling. Remember the whole purpose is to keep everything at the same potential. Remember the old high school physics experiment of the rubber rod and the silk cloth? The TCXO is probably in a small box protected by conductive foam. 73s, Jim, W4ATK On 9/17/2015 7:30 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > Well the Assembly so far has gone pretty well; other than the odd > hardware dance. This is an area that can be improved dramatically > without being overly complex. There's apparently one set of Stainless > hardware and the rest are zinc. I infer from the assembly that all (or > nearly all) hardware that is on the OUTSIDE or mates to outside screws/bolts is stainless. > Everything internal ONLY is zinc. > > > > My Hints/Tips: > > 1. Wear surgical/rubber gloves - During assembly I suggest wearing thin > rubber gloves (lowes, home depot..etc.. ). That helps keep > oil/fingerprints off of everything and you get a slight better grip. > > 2. Use a magnetic parts tray - even for the SS hardware it helps as they > have some slight carbon content. > > 3. Use a magnetic tipped screwdriver. > > 4. User gravity to put/keep washers on the screws - don't be afraid to > pick up the assembly you're working on and position it such that > gravity helps keep parts where they need to be. Keep it Simply Simple. > > 5. Work in a well-lighted area and I'd even suggest a desk/work lamp. I > have plenty of light in my office and the addition of a desk lamp made > a dramatic difference to my work. > > 6. Don't mix bags - keep hardware from one bag in it's own container. > Don't mix zinc and stainless J > > 7. Don't be distracted - ask the wife, kids, pets, ..etc.. to leave you > for a bit. I had to dis-assemble/re-assemble the front panel several > times because my better half wanted to share details of something. > Being that she has the higher priority I listened and inadvertently > assembled some parts incorrectly and caught it on verification. > > > > Well I'm past the resistance and first power-on test. Just need to > figure out if/how they packed the TCXO. I have the KREF3 module but > can't locate the TCXO.. not many parts left, 3 modules, the 100w PA and > > > > > > Jerry Moore > > AE4PB, K3S SN# 10324 > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I did that when working on the Front panel to prevent scratches. I didn’t do that for the rest as I was concerned about static. Probably ok tho
From: Rick Robinson [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:43 AM To: [hidden email] Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Build Progress: 1st power-on Also using a bath towel under your work helps grab those little parts that amazingly grow legs and wander or jump off. On Thursday, September 17, 2015, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: Well the Assembly so far has gone pretty well; other than the odd hardware dance. This is an area that can be improved dramatically without being overly complex. There's apparently one set of Stainless hardware and the rest are zinc. I infer from the assembly that all (or nearly all) hardware that is on the OUTSIDE or mates to outside screws/bolts is stainless. Everything internal ONLY is zinc. My Hints/Tips: 1. Wear surgical/rubber gloves - During assembly I suggest wearing thin rubber gloves (lowes, home depot..etc.. ). That helps keep oil/fingerprints off of everything and you get a slight better grip. 2. Use a magnetic parts tray - even for the SS hardware it helps as they have some slight carbon content. 3. Use a magnetic tipped screwdriver. 4. User gravity to put/keep washers on the screws - don't be afraid to pick up the assembly you're working on and position it such that gravity helps keep parts where they need to be. Keep it Simply Simple. 5. Work in a well-lighted area and I'd even suggest a desk/work lamp. I have plenty of light in my office and the addition of a desk lamp made a dramatic difference to my work. 6. Don't mix bags - keep hardware from one bag in it's own container. Don't mix zinc and stainless J 7. Don't be distracted - ask the wife, kids, pets, ..etc.. to leave you be for a bit. I had to dis-assemble/re-assemble the front panel several times because my better half wanted to share details of something. Being that she has the higher priority I listened and inadvertently assembled some parts incorrectly and caught it on verification. Well I'm past the resistance and first power-on test. Just need to figure out if/how they packed the TCXO. I have the KREF3 module but can't locate the TCXO.. not many parts left, 3 modules, the 100w PA and sheet metal mmmm. Jerry Moore AE4PB, K3S SN# 10324 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] <javascript:;> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] <javascript:;> -- Rick, W8ZT Sent from Gmail Mobile ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Yep, I expected static mat, wrist strap, and work strap were a given..
Jer -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ray Sills Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 9:09 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Build Progress: 1st power-on And, it couldn’t hurt to use an anti-static mat. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 > On Sep 17, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Rick Robinson <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Also using a bath towel under your work helps grab those little parts > that amazingly grow legs and wander or jump off. > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Jer,
Congratulations on the work you have reported so far. I hope the rest of the assembly goes well and you find no problems. Is there a chance that your TCXO is already mounted on the KREF3 board? My only comment is that I do not like to have any magnetic tools or trays (or anything else magnetic) on my workbench. They pick up bits and pieces that I do not intend and can sometimes inadvertently operate relays when not wanted. Of course, I am working with a variety of equipment, so my situation is different than only assembling a K3S, and I do have little bits and pieces (cutoff leads, etc) laying around on my workbench. Speaker magnets are an irritation that I can do little about, so I place them away from my work area. I do keep an old Weller soldering gun next to the workbench and its only task is to demagnetize my tools when they begin picking up bits. 73, Don W3FPR On 9/17/2015 8:30 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > 2. Use a magnetic parts tray - even for the SS hardware it helps as they > have some slight carbon content. > > 3. Use a magnetic tipped screwdriver. > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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No worries, Elecraft is on top of things for me. Part number for the back PA
blank plate was accidently keyed in instead of the TCXO. It's on the way so no worries. I'm just VERY HAPPY the build went well and the Rig otherwise appears to be working (well other than no RX..LOL.. ). Just playing with the menus and getting familiar with it all. Once I get off work I'll connect my PC with the K3 Utility and see what I can see. I only like mag trays when I'm doing assembly or maintenance where I'd have a bunch of hardware out (especially small in size). Jerry Moore AE4PB, K3S - SN 10324 -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 10:56 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Build Progress: 1st power-on Jer, Congratulations on the work you have reported so far. I hope the rest of the assembly goes well and you find no problems. Is there a chance that your TCXO is already mounted on the KREF3 board? My only comment is that I do not like to have any magnetic tools or trays (or anything else magnetic) on my workbench. They pick up bits and pieces that I do not intend and can sometimes inadvertently operate relays when not wanted. Of course, I am working with a variety of equipment, so my situation is different than only assembling a K3S, and I do have little bits and pieces (cutoff leads, etc) laying around on my workbench. Speaker magnets are an irritation that I can do little about, so I place them away from my work area. I do keep an old Weller soldering gun next to the workbench and its only task is to demagnetize my tools when they begin picking up bits. 73, Don W3FPR On 9/17/2015 8:30 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > 2. Use a magnetic parts tray - even for the SS hardware it helps as they > have some slight carbon content. > > 3. Use a magnetic tipped screwdriver. > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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