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Brian Pepperdine

K3S IF signals seen in P3 and NaP3 but nothing heard

A few weeks back I bought a used K3 upgraded to K3S in many ways, including a sub-receiver (which I doubt I will use).
Anyhow.. about a week or so in I was in a situation where I could see IF signals on the P3 (and NaP3) but hear no signals.
I contacted Elecraft service and they felt that if it persisted I might look at replacing the receiver board at the front (behind display panel) with gold pins (which could be ordered from DigiKey) but would require removal/replacement of the pins on the board. Not eager to do that if avoidable.

Anyhow, by the time (day or so) Elecraft had consulted internally and responded the receiver was once again hearing and presenting signals. I left it at that, thinking well the radio WAS shipped etc. so maybe some settlement etc.

Anyhow, earlier today (a month later ? ) the same thing happened. So before pulling the receiver board and re-setting it in the pin socket (hoping for a better connection) I looked at the other hardware connection there.. the two TMP plugs/sockets. So I took the two cables out with the TMP plugs on them and reset them twice.
Behold, signals heard.

I will let this be for now and if it does not repeat then leave it. I will let you all know if in the short/medium term the program stays away or returns. I did see ONE reference to this in the mail list archives, but the gold pins were mentioned there. Nothing re. the accessible and simpler TMP plugs.

73
Brian VE3VAW Toronto ON

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Re: K3S IF signals seen in P3 and NaP3 but nothing heard

I have had similar problems with the TMP cables. Was tempted to just replace all of them, but everything seems to be working great now!

Tom W4KX

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 9, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Brian <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> A few weeks back I bought a used K3 upgraded to K3S in many ways, including a sub-receiver (which I doubt I will use).
> Anyhow.. about a week or so in I was in a situation where I could see IF signals on the P3 (and NaP3) but hear no signals.
> I contacted Elecraft service and they felt that if it persisted I might look at replacing the receiver board at the front (behind display panel) with gold pins (which could be ordered from DigiKey) but would require removal/replacement of the pins on the board. Not eager to do that if avoidable.
>
> Anyhow, by the time (day or so) Elecraft had consulted internally and responded the receiver was once again hearing and presenting signals. I left it at that, thinking well the radio WAS shipped etc. so maybe some settlement etc.
>
> Anyhow, earlier today (a month later ? ) the same thing happened. So before pulling the receiver board and re-setting it in the pin socket (hoping for a better connection) I looked at the other hardware connection there.. the two TMP plugs/sockets. So I took the two cables out with the TMP plugs on them and reset them twice.
> Behold, signals heard.
>
> I will let this be for now and if it does not repeat then leave it. I will let you all know if in the short/medium term the program stays away or returns. I did see ONE reference to this in the mail list archives, but the gold pins were mentioned there. Nothing re. the accessible and simpler TMP plugs.
>
> 73
> Brian VE3VAW Toronto ON
>
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Grant Youngman-2

Re: K3S IF signals seen in P3 and NaP3 but nothing heard

i have never had a problem with TMP cables themselves. They’ve been in and out of my K3 many times doing upgrades, etc. I HAVE had a problem with my own careless installation.

In some socket locations you have to be careful. You can’t just jam the plug in the socket when you feel resistance. On a few of the sockets (not all), if the cable enter pin is slightly misaligned and you keep pushing, you will end up displacing the tip end of the socket. Can’t say that’s what happened here, but appropriate care can put off a lot of head scratching and diagnosis time later.

Hard lessons learned the hard way ..

Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091 KX3 #8342

> On Jul 10, 2019, at 12:25 PM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I have had similar problems with the TMP cables. Was tempted to just replace all of them, but everything seems to be working great now!
>
> Tom W4KX
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jul 9, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Brian <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Anyhow, earlier today (a month later ? ) the same thing happened. So before pulling the receiver board and re-setting it in the pin socket (hoping for a better connection) I looked at the other hardware connection there.. the two TMP plugs/sockets. So I took the two cables out with the TMP plugs on them and reset them twice.
>> Behold, signals heard.
>>

Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: K3S IF signals seen in P3 and NaP3 but nothing heard

These cables, like many cables with connectors will accrue connector
oxidation. Often the oxidation is such that it prevents a very low
level signal from passing. The solution for many instances is simply
to clean connectors.

My approach is to use a Q-Tip, apply your favorite contact cleaner to
the Q-Tip, unplug one connector at a time, and scrub the male pins.
Then exercise the connector in and out of the jack or plug to wipe the
female socket. Then move on to another connector, doing the same.

And for gosh sake, NEVER NEVER spray anything into the radio, a socket
or a connector. You'll regret ever doing that for a long long time.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 7/10/2019 12:14 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:

> i have never had a problem with TMP cables themselves. They’ve been in and out of my K3 many times doing upgrades, etc. I HAVE had a problem with my own careless installation.
>
> In some socket locations you have to be careful. You can’t just jam the plug in the socket when you feel resistance. On a few of the sockets (not all), if the cable enter pin is slightly misaligned and you keep pushing, you will end up displacing the tip end of the socket. Can’t say that’s what happened here, but appropriate care can put off a lot of head scratching and diagnosis time later.
>
> Hard lessons learned the hard way ..
>
> Grant NQ5T
> K3 #2091 KX3 #8342
>
>> On Jul 10, 2019, at 12:25 PM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I have had similar problems with the TMP cables. Was tempted to just replace all of them, but everything seems to be working great now!
>>
>> Tom W4KX
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Jul 9, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Brian <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyhow, earlier today (a month later ? ) the same thing happened. So before pulling the receiver board and re-setting it in the pin socket (hoping for a better connection) I looked at the other hardware connection there.. the two TMP plugs/sockets. So I took the two cables out with the TMP plugs on them and reset them twice.
>>> Behold, signals heard.
>>>
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Gary Smith-2

Re: K3S IF signals seen in P3 and NaP3 but nothing heard

In reply to this post by Grant Youngman-2

When I install TMP cables in hard-to-reach
locations I use hemostats, the ones with
the knurled teeth. Of course never clamp
down on the connector, keep it with the
loosest possible grip so as not to deform
anything.

Gary
KA1J

> i have never had a problem with TMP cables themselves. They´ve been
> in and out of my K3 many times doing upgrades, etc. I HAVE had a
> problem with my own careless installation.
>
> In some socket locations you have to be careful. You can´t just jam
> the plug in the socket when you feel resistance. On a few of the
> sockets (not all), if the cable enter pin is slightly misaligned and
> you keep pushing, you will end up displacing the tip end of the
> socket. Can´t say that´s what happened here, but appropriate care
> can put off a lot of head scratching and diagnosis time later.
>
> Hard lessons learned the hard way ..
>
> Grant NQ5T
> K3 #2091 KX3 #8342
>
> > On Jul 10, 2019, at 12:25 PM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft
> > <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > I have had similar problems with the TMP cables. Was tempted to just
> > replace all of them, but everything seems to be working great now!
> >
> > Tom W4KX
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On Jul 9, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Brian <[hidden email]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Anyhow, earlier today (a month later ? ) the same thing happened.
> >> So before pulling the receiver board and re-setting it in the pin
> >> socket (hoping for a better connection) I looked at the other
> >> hardware connection there.. the two TMP plugs/sockets. So I took
> >> the two cables out with the TMP plugs on them and reset them twice.
> >> Behold, signals heard.

Ed Pflueger

Re: K3S IF signals seen in P3 and NaP3 but nothing heard

In reply to this post by Bob McGraw - K4TAX

I always used a pencil eraser, worked great. On old Stromberg Carlson Switch gear to clean the contacts I used a $100 bill. Not much grease on them. Hi hi...

Ed.. AB4IQ

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S IF signals seen in P3 and NaP3 but nothing heard

These cables, like many cables with connectors will accrue connector oxidation. Often the oxidation is such that it prevents a very low level signal from passing. The solution for many instances is simply to clean connectors.

My approach is to use a Q-Tip, apply your favorite contact cleaner to the Q-Tip, unplug one connector at a time, and scrub the male pins. Then exercise the connector in and out of the jack or plug to wipe the female socket. Then move on to another connector, doing the same.

And for gosh sake, NEVER NEVER spray anything into the radio, a socket or a connector. You'll regret ever doing that for a long long time.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 7/10/2019 12:14 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:

> i have never had a problem with TMP cables themselves. They’ve been in and out of my K3 many times doing upgrades, etc. I HAVE had a problem with my own careless installation.
>
> In some socket locations you have to be careful. You can’t just jam the plug in the socket when you feel resistance. On a few of the sockets (not all), if the cable enter pin is slightly misaligned and you keep pushing, you will end up displacing the tip end of the socket. Can’t say that’s what happened here, but appropriate care can put off a lot of head scratching and diagnosis time later.
>
> Hard lessons learned the hard way ..
>
> Grant NQ5T
> K3 #2091 KX3 #8342
>
>> On Jul 10, 2019, at 12:25 PM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I have had similar problems with the TMP cables. Was tempted to just replace all of them, but everything seems to be working great now!
>>
>> Tom W4KX
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Jul 9, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Brian <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyhow, earlier today (a month later ? ) the same thing happened. So before pulling the receiver board and re-setting it in the pin socket (hoping for a better connection) I looked at the other hardware connection there.. the two TMP plugs/sockets. So I took the two cables out with the TMP plugs on them and reset them twice.
>>> Behold, signals heard.
>>>
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w4sc-2

Re: K3S IF signals seen in P3 and NaP3 but nothing heard

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The TMP connectors should never need cleaning unless they have been contaminated (usually by body oil from handling) as they are silver plated. Don’t handle the contact areas of the male plug, as once oil is on the plug it will transfer to the jack on the board, potentially causing connection issues.

Ben W4SC

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Wes Stewart-2

Re: K3S IF signals seen in P3 and NaP3 but nothing heard

I beg to differ: https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K3/album?id=37256

Some of these are disengaged purposely. And no, I don't live in a corrosive
atmosphere, the opposite ends are pristine.

Wes N7WS

On 7/10/2019 1:33 PM, w4sc wrote:
> The TMP connectors should never need cleaning unless they have been contaminated (usually by body oil from handling) as they are silver plated. Don’t handle the contact areas of the male plug, as once oil is on the plug it will transfer to the jack on the board, potentially causing connection issues.
>
> Ben W4SC
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: K3S IF signals seen in P3 and NaP3 but nothing heard

It is silver sulfide {tarnish} which is semiconductor and will therefore
conduct electricity, but will reduce the surface conductivity.   To what
extent will depend on the thickness of the tarnish.    Surface tarnish
will not affect bulk conductivity unless the "bulk" thickness is very
thin.   Since silver is soft, when one contact rubs against the other it
cleans itself. However, if the contacts are not designed to do this then
there could be the issue and longer term problem with accumulation of
low conductivity sulfides. Basically then resulting in loss of
conductivity.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 7/10/2019 6:56 PM, Wes wrote:

> I beg to differ: https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K3/album?id=37256
>
> Some of these are disengaged purposely. And no, I don't live in a
> corrosive atmosphere, the opposite ends are pristine.
>
> Wes N7WS
>
> On 7/10/2019 1:33 PM, w4sc wrote:
>> The TMP connectors should never need cleaning unless they have been
>> contaminated (usually by body oil from handling) as they are silver
>> plated. Don’t handle the contact areas of the male plug, as once oil
>> is on the plug it will transfer to the jack on the board, potentially
>> causing connection issues.
>>
>> Ben W4SC
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Brian Pepperdine

K3 hears nothing.... my old issue of of K3S IF signals seen in P3 and NaP3 but nothing heard

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You can see my message below. I think all the threads on this and responses are here.
http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3S-IF-signals-seen-in-P3-and-NaP3-but-nothing-heard-td7653733.html

In any case, though I think I had to do this a couple times, in the end that last time combined with a bit of DeOxit on the TMP
connectors (male and socket) have had no issues for almost a year now.
So FYI, this may or may not be the issue for the fellow who hears no signals on his K3.
Note that I WAS seeing signals in NaP3, so at that point it was obvious that it was 'hearing' to a point, so the rest was somewhere and indeed was indeed within those TMP cables going into and out of the front boards.
Thankfully it does not appear that I will have to resort to obtaining and installing the 'gold pins'. That would be WORK!

Brian Pepperdine VE3VAW

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Subject: K3S IF signals seen in P3 and NaP3 but nothing heard

A few weeks back I bought a used K3 upgraded to K3S in many ways, including a sub-receiver (which I doubt I will use).
Anyhow.. about a week or so in I was in a situation where I could see IF signals on the P3 (and NaP3) but hear no signals.
I contacted Elecraft service and they felt that if it persisted I might look at replacing the receiver board at the front (behind display panel) with gold pins (which could be ordered from DigiKey) but would require removal/replacement of the pins on the board. Not eager to do that if avoidable.

Anyhow, by the time (day or so) Elecraft had consulted internally and responded the receiver was once again hearing and presenting signals. I left it at that, thinking well the radio WAS shipped etc. so maybe some settlement etc.

Anyhow, earlier today (a month later ? ) the same thing happened. So before pulling the receiver board and re-setting it in the pin socket (hoping for a better connection) I looked at the other hardware connection there.. the two TMP plugs/sockets. So I took the two cables out with the TMP plugs on them and reset them twice.
Behold, signals heard.

I will let this be for now and if it does not repeat then leave it. I will let you all know if in the short/medium term the program stays away or returns. I did see ONE reference to this in the mail list archives, but the gold pins were mentioned there. Nothing re. the accessible and simpler TMP plugs.

73
Brian VE3VAW Toronto ON

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Brian Pepperdine

K4 IF signal 'OUT' for external application useage

Looking at the recent (though long from complete) K4 guide, I don't see an IF OUT per se as I have in the accessory board in my K3 (or in fact the output I/Q from the KX3 I can run directly into my sound card on the computer). Does the XVTR IF OUT suffice for this?

The reason I ask is that eventually my LP-PAN is going to die - hopefully not soon but I have been using it for quite some time now. I use the IF out from the K3 into the LP-PAN and then into NaP3.

Now I do realize there is a panadapter on the K4 - obviously - but I DO enjoy (in fact pretty much need) the large computer display for the pana/spectrum display and DO use the NaP3 software controls for K3 functions on my keyboard and mouse for tuning and such.
The display on the K4 is not the same thing I don't think. Even with some keyboard/mouse controls native to the K4 (?) the display size is a deterent to me as it exists. Apologies to the company. I assume maybe there MIGHT be a video card OUT re. the K4 panadapter at some time, but that is a maybe.. and more money.

I won't be nearly the first to get a K4.. down the line probably as I have a K3S here and a K3 at the in-law's property. If I did get that 'last final rig' and it was a K4 (Iikely as I don't have much in the shack since 2000 that was not Elecraft) I would, as an older fellow then.. want the larger visual display of the computer/IF out/NaP3 sort of solution.

So, do I get some IF out I can use?
tnx
Brian VE3VAW

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Buck

Re: K4 IF signal 'OUT' for external application useage

As I recall, there is an HDMI output on the back of the K4. You can
choose to have it display the front panel, the panadapter or both on an
external monitor.

You won't need to use I/Q to an LP-PAN.

Buck, k4ia
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On 9/24/2020 2:51 PM, Brian wrote:

>
> Looking at the recent (though long from complete) K4 guide, I don't see an IF OUT per se as I have in the accessory board in my K3 (or in fact the output I/Q from the KX3 I can run directly into my sound card on the computer). Does the XVTR IF OUT suffice for this?
>
> The reason I ask is that eventually my LP-PAN is going to die - hopefully not soon but I have been using it for quite some time now. I use the IF out from the K3 into the LP-PAN and then into NaP3.
>
> Now I do realize there is a panadapter on the K4 - obviously - but I DO enjoy (in fact pretty much need) the large computer display for the pana/spectrum display and DO use the NaP3 software controls for K3 functions on my keyboard and mouse for tuning and such.
> The display on the K4 is not the same thing I don't think. Even with some keyboard/mouse controls native to the K4 (?) the display size is a deterent to me as it exists. Apologies to the company. I assume maybe there MIGHT be a video card OUT re. the K4 panadapter at some time, but that is a maybe.. and more money.
>
> I won't be nearly the first to get a K4.. down the line probably as I have a K3S here and a K3 at the in-law's property. If I did get that 'last final rig' and it was a K4 (Iikely as I don't have much in the shack since 2000 that was not Elecraft) I would, as an older fellow then.. want the larger visual display of the computer/IF out/NaP3 sort of solution.
>
> So, do I get some IF out I can use?
> tnx
> Brian VE3VAW
>
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David Gilbert-2

Re: K4 IF signal 'OUT' for external application useage

Except that an I/Q output would also enable the convenient use of other
3rd party software. If Elecraft didn't bother to include it in the K4,
I think that's a mistake.

Dave AB7E

On 9/24/2020 11:58 AM, Buck wrote:

> As I recall, there is an HDMI output on the back of the K4. You can
> choose to have it display the front panel, the panadapter or both on
> an external monitor.
>
> You won't need to use I/Q to an LP-PAN.
>
> Buck, k4ia
> Honor Roll
> 8BDXCC
> EasyWayHamBooks.com

>
> On 9/24/2020 2:51 PM, Brian wrote:
>>
>> Looking at the recent (though long from complete) K4 guide, I don't
>> see an IF OUT per se as I have in the accessory board in my K3 (or in
>> fact the output I/Q from the KX3 I can run directly into my sound
>> card on the computer). Does the XVTR IF OUT suffice for this?
>>
>> The reason I ask is that eventually my LP-PAN is going to die -
>> hopefully not soon but I have been using it for quite some time now.
>> I use the IF out from the K3 into the LP-PAN and then into NaP3.
>>
>> Now I do realize there is a panadapter on the K4 - obviously - but I
>> DO enjoy (in fact pretty much need) the large computer display for
>> the pana/spectrum display and DO use the NaP3 software controls for
>> K3 functions on my keyboard and mouse for tuning and such.
>> The display on the K4 is not the same thing I don't think. Even with
>> some keyboard/mouse controls native to the K4 (?) the display size is
>> a deterent to me as it exists. Apologies to the company. I assume
>> maybe there MIGHT be a video card OUT re. the K4 panadapter at some
>> time, but that is a maybe.. and more money.
>>
>> I won't be nearly the first to get a K4.. down the line probably as I
>> have a K3S here and a K3 at the in-law's property. If I did get that
>> 'last final rig' and it was a K4 (Iikely as I don't have much in the
>> shack since 2000 that was not Elecraft) I would, as an older fellow
>> then.. want the larger visual display of the computer/IF out/NaP3
>> sort of solution.
>>
>> So, do I get some IF out I can use?
>> tnx
>> Brian VE3VAW

wayne burdick

Re: K4 IF signal 'OUT' for external application useage

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IQ streaming data from the K4 will be available over Ethernet.

Wayne
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> On Sep 24, 2020, at 12:14 PM, David Gilbert <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> Except that an I/Q output would also enable the convenient use of other 3rd party software. If Elecraft didn't bother to include it in the K4, I think that's a mistake.
>
> Dave AB7E
>
>
>
>> On 9/24/2020 11:58 AM, Buck wrote:
>> As I recall, there is an HDMI output on the back of the K4. You can choose to have it display the front panel, the panadapter or both on an external monitor.
>>
>> You won't need to use I/Q to an LP-PAN.
>>
>> Buck, k4ia
>> Honor Roll
>> 8BDXCC
>> EasyWayHamBooks.com
>
>>
>>> On 9/24/2020 2:51 PM, Brian wrote:
>>>
>>> Looking at the recent (though long from complete) K4 guide, I don't see an IF OUT per se as I have in the accessory board in my K3 (or in fact the output I/Q from the KX3 I can run directly into my sound card on the computer). Does the XVTR IF OUT suffice for this?
>>>
>>> The reason I ask is that eventually my LP-PAN is going to die - hopefully not soon but I have been using it for quite some time now. I use the IF out from the K3 into the LP-PAN and then into NaP3.
>>>
>>> Now I do realize there is a panadapter on the K4 - obviously - but I DO enjoy (in fact pretty much need) the large computer display for the pana/spectrum display and DO use the NaP3 software controls for K3 functions on my keyboard and mouse for tuning and such.
>>> The display on the K4 is not the same thing I don't think. Even with some keyboard/mouse controls native to the K4 (?) the display size is a deterent to me as it exists. Apologies to the company. I assume maybe there MIGHT be a video card OUT re. the K4 panadapter at some time, but that is a maybe.. and more money.
>>>
>>> I won't be nearly the first to get a K4.. down the line probably as I have a K3S here and a K3 at the in-law's property. If I did get that 'last final rig' and it was a K4 (Iikely as I don't have much in the shack since 2000 that was not Elecraft) I would, as an older fellow then.. want the larger visual display of the computer/IF out/NaP3 sort of solution.
>>>
>>> So, do I get some IF out I can use?
>>> tnx
>>> Brian VE3VAW
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David Gilbert-2

Re: K4 IF signal 'OUT' for external application useage

VERY cool ...

Thanks es 73,
Dave AB7E

On 9/24/2020 12:30 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> IQ streaming data from the K4 will be available over Ethernet.
>
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>> On Sep 24, 2020, at 12:14 PM, David Gilbert <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Except that an I/Q output would also enable the convenient use of
>> other 3rd party software. If Elecraft didn't bother to include it in
>> the K4, I think that's a mistake.
>>
>> Dave AB7E
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/24/2020 11:58 AM, Buck wrote:
>>> As I recall, there is an HDMI output on the back of the K4. You can
>>> choose to have it display the front panel, the panadapter or both on
>>> an external monitor.
>>>
>>> You won't need to use I/Q to an LP-PAN.
>>>
>>> Buck, k4ia
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>>>
>>> On 9/24/2020 2:51 PM, Brian wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Looking at the recent (though long from complete) K4 guide, I don't
>>>> see an IF OUT per se as I have in the accessory board in my K3 (or
>>>> in fact the output I/Q from the KX3 I can run directly into my
>>>> sound card on the computer). Does the XVTR IF OUT suffice for this?
>>>>
>>>> The reason I ask is that eventually my LP-PAN is going to die -
>>>> hopefully not soon but I have been using it for quite some time
>>>> now. I use the IF out from the K3 into the LP-PAN and then into NaP3.
>>>>
>>>> Now I do realize there is a panadapter on the K4 - obviously - but
>>>> I DO enjoy (in fact pretty much need) the large computer display
>>>> for the pana/spectrum display and DO use the NaP3 software controls
>>>> for K3 functions on my keyboard and mouse for tuning and such.
>>>> The display on the K4 is not the same thing I don't think. Even
>>>> with some keyboard/mouse controls native to the K4 (?) the display
>>>> size is a deterent to me as it exists. Apologies to the company. I
>>>> assume maybe there MIGHT be a video card OUT re. the K4 panadapter
>>>> at some time, but that is a maybe.. and more money.
>>>>
>>>> I won't be nearly the first to get a K4.. down the line probably as
>>>> I have a K3S here and a K3 at the in-law's property. If I did get
>>>> that 'last final rig' and it was a K4 (Iikely as I don't have much
>>>> in the shack since 2000 that was not Elecraft) I would, as an older
>>>> fellow then.. want the larger visual display of the computer/IF
>>>> out/NaP3 sort of solution.
>>>>
>>>> So, do I get some IF out I can use?
>>>> tnx
>>>> Brian VE3VAW
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Edward R Cole

Re: K4 IF signal 'OUT' for external application useage

In reply to this post by Buck

OK, so the only thing I do with ethernet is connect to the Internet
via a router.

So would the K4 ethernet connect via the router using a local network
to communicate with my computer? I have that option to network my
printer between multiple computers.

One related question will the ethernet permit separate IQ from main
and sub Rx (diversity mode with separate antennas)? I do that with
my K3 by using both 1st IF's to two LP-Pan which create IQ baseband
to a four-port soundcard. I have both LP-Pan phase-locked to a
single LO to preserve diversity reception. The computer runs MAP65
which takes two receiver IQ inputs.
<http://www.kl7uw.com/MAP65.htm>http://www.kl7uw.com/MAP65.htm

Just curious at this point.

73, Ed - KL7UW

Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 12:30:21 -0700
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IQ streaming data from the K4 will be available over Ethernet.

Wayne
N6KR

73, Ed - KL7UW
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