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Jerry Moore

K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and hear the sidetones?

I'm attending CW academy and having a blast. I like being able to use my key
and hear the sidetone during practice.
I use HRD and DM780. It keys my rig and will SEND CW without issue but I
don't hear the sidetone.
I'd like to be able to put the rig into test mode (so it doesn't go over the
air) and hear what I send via computer.
Is that possible? I've not found a setting for that.
Thanks in advance.
Jer

Jerry Moore
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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and hear the sidetones?

> I use HRD and DM780. It keys my rig and will SEND CW without issue
> but I don't hear the sidetone.

Turn up MONI (monitor). For more information, see the K3S Owner's
Manual. Monitor also functions in TEST mode.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 1/28/2016 8:33 PM, Jerry Moore wrote:

> I'm attending CW academy and having a blast. I like being able to use my key
> and hear the sidetone during practice.
> I use HRD and DM780. It keys my rig and will SEND CW without issue but I
> don't hear the sidetone.
> I'd like to be able to put the rig into test mode (so it doesn't go over the
> air) and hear what I send via computer.
> Is that possible? I've not found a setting for that.
> Thanks in advance.
> Jer
>
> Jerry Moore
> CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists
> AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
> http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB
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> Patriotic.
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Nr4c

Re: K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and hear the sidetones?

You might need to be in CW mode to turn up the sideline. There are separate settings for CW and SSB I believe.

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...nr4c. bill

> On Jan 28, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>> I use HRD and DM780. It keys my rig and will SEND CW without issue
>> but I don't hear the sidetone.
>
> Turn up MONI (monitor). For more information, see the K3S Owner's
> Manual. Monitor also functions in TEST mode.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>> On 1/28/2016 8:33 PM, Jerry Moore wrote:
>> I'm attending CW academy and having a blast. I like being able to use my key
>> and hear the sidetone during practice.
>> I use HRD and DM780. It keys my rig and will SEND CW without issue but I
>> don't hear the sidetone.
>> I'd like to be able to put the rig into test mode (so it doesn't go over the
>> air) and hear what I send via computer.
>> Is that possible? I've not found a setting for that.
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Jer
>>
>> Jerry Moore
>> CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists
>> AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
>> http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB
>> An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and
>> Patriotic.
>>
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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and hear the sidetones?

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Jer,

AFAIK, the only way HRD/DM780 sends CW is in DATA A mode and sends audio
tones to the transceiver.
That will not produce CW sidetone.

There are a few other applications - K3 Utility Terminal window for
instance, that send CW by sending KY commands to the K3S. In that case,
you will be in CW mode and you should be able to hear the sidetone if
you turn up the monitor.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/28/2016 8:33 PM, Jerry Moore wrote:

Nr4c

Re: K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and hear the sidetones?

I think HRD does KY commands as well.

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...nr4c. bill

> On Jan 28, 2016, at 9:41 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Jer,
>
> AFAIK, the only way HRD/DM780 sends CW is in DATA A mode and sends audio tones to the transceiver.
> That will not produce CW sidetone.
>
> There are a few other applications - K3 Utility Terminal window for instance, that send CW by sending KY commands to the K3S. In that case, you will be in CW mode and you should be able to hear the sidetone if you turn up the monitor.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>> On 1/28/2016 8:33 PM, Jerry Moore wrote:
>> I'm attending CW academy and having a blast. I like being able to use my key
>> and hear the sidetone during practice.
>> I use HRD and DM780. It keys my rig and will SEND CW without issue but I
>> don't hear the sidetone.
>> I'd like to be able to put the rig into test mode (so it doesn't go over the
>> air) and hear what I send via computer.
>> Is that possible? I've not found a setting for that.
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Jer
>>
>> Jerry Moore
>> CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists
>> AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
>> http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB
>> An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and
>> Patriotic.
>>
>>
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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and hear the sidetones?

In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm-4

If one selects MCW in DM780 and Data A on the K3S, then the audio tone
is heard as generated by HRD/DM780.

73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10163

On 1/28/2016 8:41 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Jer,
>
> AFAIK, the only way HRD/DM780 sends CW is in DATA A mode and sends
> audio tones to the transceiver.
> That will not produce CW sidetone.
>
> There are a few other applications - K3 Utility Terminal window for
> instance, that send CW by sending KY commands to the K3S. In that
> case, you will be in CW mode and you should be able to hear the
> sidetone if you turn up the monitor.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 1/28/2016 8:33 PM, Jerry Moore wrote:
>> I'm attending CW academy and having a blast. I like being able to use
>> my key
>> and hear the sidetone during practice.
>> I use HRD and DM780. It keys my rig and will SEND CW without issue but I
>> don't hear the sidetone.
>> I'd like to be able to put the rig into test mode (so it doesn't go
>> over the
>> air) and hear what I send via computer.
>> Is that possible? I've not found a setting for that.
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Jer
>>
>> Jerry Moore
>> CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists
>> AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
>> http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB
>> An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and
>> Patriotic.
>>
>>
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Jim - N4ST

Re: K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and hear the sidetones?

In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm-4

HRD/DM780 does have a CW KY mode.

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73,
Jim - N4ST

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Don
Wilhelm
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 21:41
To: Jerry Moore <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and
hear the sidetones?

Jer,

AFAIK, the only way HRD/DM780 sends CW is in DATA A mode and sends audio
tones to the transceiver.
That will not produce CW sidetone.

There are a few other applications - K3 Utility Terminal window for
instance, that send CW by sending KY commands to the K3S. In that case, you
will be in CW mode and you should be able to hear the sidetone if you turn
up the monitor.

73,
Don W3FPR

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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and hear the sidetones?

In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm-4

> AFAIK, the only way HRD/DM780 sends CW is in DATA A mode and sends
> audio tones to the transceiver.

DM780 will do "KY" (CW [KY Cmd]), it will use a Winkeyer (CW [Winkey]),
or it will flip a line on a serial port (CW) in addition to using audio
tones in DATA A (CW [SSB]). Any of the first three options will key
the K3/K3S sidetone (MONI).

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 1/28/2016 9:41 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Jer,
>
> AFAIK, the only way HRD/DM780 sends CW is in DATA A mode and sends audio
> tones to the transceiver.
> That will not produce CW sidetone.
>
> There are a few other applications - K3 Utility Terminal window for
> instance, that send CW by sending KY commands to the K3S. In that case,
> you will be in CW mode and you should be able to hear the sidetone if
> you turn up the monitor.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>

Jerry Moore

Re: K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and hear the sidetones?

I'll have to play with it. I have the K3S connected to the computer via USB.
As far as I know I'm not able to connect to the DB9 to use RTS keying. I
could be mistaken.
I'm already in CW mode, Test, QSK ON, Monitor turned up. When using my Key
connected directly to the Radio Key jack (to enable use of the internal
keyer) I can hear everything I send.

It's ONLY when I send via DM on the computer that I don't hear the side
tones. The audio blanks out like the radio is sending, there's a flashing TX
on the right side of the LCD, the RED TX lamp on the left is OFF indicating
that I'm not going over the AIR. I'll check with the other settings in DM.

Jerry Moore
CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists
AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB
An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and
Patriotic.

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Joe
Subich, W4TV
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 12:05 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and
hear the sidetones?

> AFAIK, the only way HRD/DM780 sends CW is in DATA A mode and sends
> audio tones to the transceiver.

DM780 will do "KY" (CW [KY Cmd]), it will use a Winkeyer (CW [Winkey]), or
it will flip a line on a serial port (CW) in addition to using audio tones
in DATA A (CW [SSB]). Any of the first three options will key the K3/K3S
sidetone (MONI).

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 1/28/2016 9:41 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and hear the sidetones?

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In experimenting with HRD / DM780 this morning, I find the KY command
does work as well. I"m sending from the keyboard and the computer is
connected by the USB cable to the radio. The side tone from the radio
does appear correct.

73
Bob, K4TAX

On 1/28/2016 8:58 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:

> If one selects MCW in DM780 and Data A on the K3S, then the audio tone
> is heard as generated by HRD/DM780.
>
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
> K3S s/n 10163
>
>
>
> On 1/28/2016 8:41 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Jer,
>>
>> AFAIK, the only way HRD/DM780 sends CW is in DATA A mode and sends
>> audio tones to the transceiver.
>> That will not produce CW sidetone.
>>
>> There are a few other applications - K3 Utility Terminal window for
>> instance, that send CW by sending KY commands to the K3S. In that
>> case, you will be in CW mode and you should be able to hear the
>> sidetone if you turn up the monitor.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 1/28/2016 8:33 PM, Jerry Moore wrote:
>>> I'm attending CW academy and having a blast. I like being able to
>>> use my key
>>> and hear the sidetone during practice.
>>> I use HRD and DM780. It keys my rig and will SEND CW without issue
>>> but I
>>> don't hear the sidetone.
>>> I'd like to be able to put the rig into test mode (so it doesn't go
>>> over the
>>> air) and hear what I send via computer.
>>> Is that possible? I've not found a setting for that.
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> Jer
>>>
>>> Jerry Moore
>>> CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists
>>> AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
>>> http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB
>>> An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced,
>>> and
>>> Patriotic.
>>>
>>>
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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and hear the sidetones?

I used HRD/DM780 in "KY mode" on a CW traffic net tonight. Worked
great.......uh, as well as HRD/DM780 works that is. Monitor level on
the radio was set to 20 while using the external speakers. Side tone
set to 800 Hz.

73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10163

On 1/29/2016 11:45 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:

> In experimenting with HRD / DM780 this morning, I find the KY command
> does work as well. I"m sending from the keyboard and the computer is
> connected by the USB cable to the radio. The side tone from the
> radio does appear correct.
>
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
>
> On 1/28/2016 8:58 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
>> If one selects MCW in DM780 and Data A on the K3S, then the audio
>> tone is heard as generated by HRD/DM780.
>>
>> 73
>> Bob, K4TAX
>> K3S s/n 10163
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/28/2016 8:41 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>> Jer,
>>>
>>> AFAIK, the only way HRD/DM780 sends CW is in DATA A mode and sends
>>> audio tones to the transceiver.
>>> That will not produce CW sidetone.
>>>
>>> There are a few other applications - K3 Utility Terminal window for
>>> instance, that send CW by sending KY commands to the K3S. In that
>>> case, you will be in CW mode and you should be able to hear the
>>> sidetone if you turn up the monitor.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>>
>>> On 1/28/2016 8:33 PM, Jerry Moore wrote:
>>>> I'm attending CW academy and having a blast. I like being able to
>>>> use my key
>>>> and hear the sidetone during practice.
>>>> I use HRD and DM780. It keys my rig and will SEND CW without issue
>>>> but I
>>>> don't hear the sidetone.
>>>> I'd like to be able to put the rig into test mode (so it doesn't go
>>>> over the
>>>> air) and hear what I send via computer.
>>>> Is that possible? I've not found a setting for that.
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>> Jer
>>>>
>>>> Jerry Moore
>>>> CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists
>>>> AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
>>>> http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB
>>>> An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly,
>>>> Balanced, and
>>>> Patriotic.
>>>>
>>>>
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Jerry Moore

Re: K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and hear the sidetones?

Ok, I just had an AH HA! Moment when I figured out what KY mode is.
Works as intended and desired.
Thanks guys!!!

Jerry Moore
CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists
AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB
An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and
Patriotic.

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McGraw K4TAX
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 8:45 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and
hear the sidetones?

I used HRD/DM780 in "KY mode" on a CW traffic net tonight. Worked
great.......uh, as well as HRD/DM780 works that is. Monitor level on the
radio was set to 20 while using the external speakers. Side tone set to 800
Hz.

73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10163

On 1/29/2016 11:45 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:

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