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Ian

K3S and WSJT-X

I have a single USB cable between the K3S and the laptop and no problem
decoding JT65 signals with DATA A. "CAT Control" is set for COM4 and
38400-N-8-1. Any hints on setting the "PTT Method" parameters?

73, Ian N8IK

s/n 10111

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geoff allsup

Re: K3S and WSJT-X

set PTT METHOD for CAT should do it

geoff - W1OH

On 1/25/16 11:52, Ian wrote:

> I have a single USB cable between the K3S and the laptop and no problem
> decoding JT65 signals with DATA A. "CAT Control" is set for COM4 and
> 38400-N-8-1. Any hints on setting the "PTT Method" parameters?
>
>
>
> 73, Ian N8IK
>
> s/n 10111
>
>
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Jim Brown-10

Re: K3S and WSJT-X

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On Mon,1/25/2016 8:52 AM, Ian wrote:
> Any hints on setting the "PTT Method" parameters?

I use VOX for all digital modes, including RTTY, JT65, JT9, FSK441,
ISCAT. Works great, even with an amp, because most rigs, including K3
have an internal delay after keying an amp and before TX begins. That
delay is adjustable for slower amps. The only time this isn't good
enough is if you're using something like a big, very slow, antenna relay
at the top of a tower for VHF/UHF.

My amps are a KPA500 and 35 year old Ten Tec Titan (legal limit with
fast relays).

73, Jim K9YC
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Ian

Re: K3S and WSJT-X

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Tnx Geoff - looks like I'm keying the K3S via CAT but no power out. Power
set to 50w and drawing 2.5 amps (vs 1.25 on RX) but no envelope on the P3.
73, Ian N8IK

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Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S and WSJT-X

set PTT METHOD for CAT should do it

geoff - W1OH

On 1/25/16 11:52, Ian wrote:

> I have a single USB cable between the K3S and the laptop and no
> problem decoding JT65 signals with DATA A. "CAT Control" is set for
> COM4 and 38400-N-8-1. Any hints on setting the "PTT Method" parameters?
>
>
>
> 73, Ian N8IK
>
> s/n 10111
>
>
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Tom Crayner

Re: K3S and WSJT-X

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Ian,

Which rev level of WSJT-X are you trying to use?

I seem to recall 1.5.x had some issues with Hamlib and as a result some of
the PTT code was broke.

If you are running 1.6.0 I think the Hamlib stuff is fixed and you can use
K3/KX3 as a rig and then set PTT to CAT.

If you plan on running DX Commander at some point you can install it,
configure it to mange the radio under the config->port options of DX
Commander and then point WSJT-X to it by selecting DX Commander as the
"rig" in Settings->Radio. Then DX COmmander does the heavy lifting and
avoids the broken Hamlib piece. This should work in 1.5.x and 1.6.

Tom (W2YF)

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ian <[hidden email]> wrote:

Jim - N4ST

Re: K3S and WSJT-X

In reply to this post by Ian

The CAT should work, but you could always set up VOX on the K3S.
When you key the K3S via CAT, do you hear the tones in the K3S monitor?

___________
73,
Jim - N4ST

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ian
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 16:13
To: 'geoff allsup' <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S and WSJT-X

Tnx Geoff - looks like I'm keying the K3S via CAT but no power out. Power
set to 50w and drawing 2.5 amps (vs 1.25 on RX) but no envelope on the P3.
73, Ian N8IK

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of geoff
allsup
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S and WSJT-X

set PTT METHOD for CAT should do it

geoff - W1OH

On 1/25/16 11:52, Ian wrote:

Ian

Re: K3S and WSJT-X

In reply to this post by Tom Crayner

WSJT-X 1.6.0, PTT method = CAT, VOX enabled on K3S, 50w pwr but no envelope
on the P3

-----Original Message-----
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Crayner
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 16:19
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S and WSJT-X

Ian,

Which rev level of WSJT-X are you trying to use?

I seem to recall 1.5.x had some issues with Hamlib and as a result some of
the PTT code was broke.

If you are running 1.6.0 I think the Hamlib stuff is fixed and you can use
K3/KX3 as a rig and then set PTT to CAT.

If you plan on running DX Commander at some point you can install it,
configure it to mange the radio under the config->port options of DX
Commander and then point WSJT-X to it by selecting DX Commander as the "rig"
in Settings->Radio. Then DX COmmander does the heavy lifting and avoids the
broken Hamlib piece. This should work in 1.5.x and 1.6.

Tom (W2YF)

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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: K3S and WSJT-X

I'll make screen shots if needed. Be sure you have CAT interface
working and then the correct AUDIO CODEC selected in the application.
The radio should be in Data mode. When you select TUNE you should hear
the tone in the MONITOR, radio should switch to transmit, the PWR
slider to the right controls the audio level. The Speaker CODEC on the
computer should be about 50%. This should have about 4 to 5 bars
showing on the ALC meter. Line gain on the radio at about #20.

73
Bob, K4TAX

On 1/25/2016 3:53 PM, Ian wrote:

> WSJT-X 1.6.0, PTT method = CAT, VOX enabled on K3S, 50w pwr but no envelope
> on the P3
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Tom
> Crayner
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 16:19
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S and WSJT-X
>
> Ian,
>
> Which rev level of WSJT-X are you trying to use?
>
> I seem to recall 1.5.x had some issues with Hamlib and as a result some of
> the PTT code was broke.
>
> If you are running 1.6.0 I think the Hamlib stuff is fixed and you can use
> K3/KX3 as a rig and then set PTT to CAT.
>
> If you plan on running DX Commander at some point you can install it,
> configure it to mange the radio under the config->port options of DX
> Commander and then point WSJT-X to it by selecting DX Commander as the "rig"
> in Settings->Radio. Then DX COmmander does the heavy lifting and avoids the
> broken Hamlib piece. This should work in 1.5.x and 1.6.
>
> Tom (W2YF)
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ian <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I have a single USB cable between the K3S and the laptop and no
>> problem decoding JT65 signals with DATA A. "CAT Control" is set for
>> COM4 and 38400-N-8-1. Any hints on setting the "PTT Method" parameters?
>>
>>
>>
>> 73, Ian N8IK
>>
>> s/n 10111
>>
>>
>>
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James Bennett

Re: K3S and WSJT-X

In reply to this post by Ian

I may have missed it in previous posting(s), but is the TX light light on the K3? If it is, then your PTT is working but you may not have enough audio drive.

Jim Bennett / W6JHB
Folsom, CA

> On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:53 PM, Ian <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> WSJT-X 1.6.0, PTT method = CAT, VOX enabled on K3S, 50w pwr but no envelope
> on the P3
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Tom
> Crayner
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 16:19
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S and WSJT-X
>
> Ian,
>
> Which rev level of WSJT-X are you trying to use?
>
> I seem to recall 1.5.x had some issues with Hamlib and as a result some of
> the PTT code was broke.
>
> If you are running 1.6.0 I think the Hamlib stuff is fixed and you can use
> K3/KX3 as a rig and then set PTT to CAT.
>
> If you plan on running DX Commander at some point you can install it,
> configure it to mange the radio under the config->port options of DX
> Commander and then point WSJT-X to it by selecting DX Commander as the "rig"
> in Settings->Radio. Then DX COmmander does the heavy lifting and avoids the
> broken Hamlib piece. This should work in 1.5.x and 1.6.
>
> Tom (W2YF)
>
>
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ian <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I have a single USB cable between the K3S and the laptop and no
>> problem decoding JT65 signals with DATA A. "CAT Control" is set for
>> COM4 and 38400-N-8-1. Any hints on setting the "PTT Method" parameters?
>>
>>
>>
>> 73, Ian N8IK
>>
>> s/n 10111
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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: K3S and WSJT-X

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Ian,

Do you have the coupler for the P3 Transmit Monitor P3 TXMON installed
in your transmission line? Is it the 'right way around?
Is the SENSOR cable fully plugged in at both ends? You should hear a
click when the cable is fully seated.
Do you see the envelope display with other modes?

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/25/2016 4:53 PM, Ian wrote:

Ian

Re: K3S and WSJT-X

In reply to this post by Bob McGraw - K4TAX

CAT definitely working - the freq changes in WSJT-X when I spin VFO A. K3S
set as default device playback and recording "USB Audio CODEC" on the
laptop. Plenty of PWR out when I hit TUNE on the K3S. When I hit the Tune
button in WSJT I get a steady tone.
73, Ian N8IK

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bob
McGraw K4TAX
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 17:09
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S and WSJT-X

I'll make screen shots if needed. Be sure you have CAT interface
working and then the correct AUDIO CODEC selected in the application.
The radio should be in Data mode. When you select TUNE you should hear the
tone in the MONITOR, radio should switch to transmit, the PWR slider to the
right controls the audio level. The Speaker CODEC on the
computer should be about 50%. This should have about 4 to 5 bars
showing on the ALC meter. Line gain on the radio at about #20.

73
Bob, K4TAX

On 1/25/2016 3:53 PM, Ian wrote:

> WSJT-X 1.6.0, PTT method = CAT, VOX enabled on K3S, 50w pwr but no
> envelope on the P3
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Tom Crayner
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 16:19
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S and WSJT-X
>
> Ian,
>
> Which rev level of WSJT-X are you trying to use?
>
> I seem to recall 1.5.x had some issues with Hamlib and as a result
> some of the PTT code was broke.
>
> If you are running 1.6.0 I think the Hamlib stuff is fixed and you can
> use
> K3/KX3 as a rig and then set PTT to CAT.
>
> If you plan on running DX Commander at some point you can install it,
> configure it to mange the radio under the config->port options of DX
> Commander and then point WSJT-X to it by selecting DX Commander as the

"rig"

> in Settings->Radio. Then DX COmmander does the heavy lifting and
> avoids the broken Hamlib piece. This should work in 1.5.x and 1.6.
>
> Tom (W2YF)
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ian <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I have a single USB cable between the K3S and the laptop and no
>> problem decoding JT65 signals with DATA A. "CAT Control" is set for
>> COM4 and 38400-N-8-1. Any hints on setting the "PTT Method" parameters?
>>
>>
>>
>> 73, Ian N8IK
>>
>> s/n 10111
>>
>>
>>
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Ian

Re: K3S and WSJT-X

In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm-4

TXMON installed correctly! Works fb on CW and SSB.

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 17:12
To: Ian <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S and WSJT-X

Ian,

Do you have the coupler for the P3 Transmit Monitor P3 TXMON installed in
your transmission line? Is it the 'right way around?
Is the SENSOR cable fully plugged in at both ends? You should hear a click
when the cable is fully seated.
Do you see the envelope display with other modes?

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/25/2016 4:53 PM, Ian wrote:

"rig"

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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: K3S and WSJT-X

Ian,

Are you actually getting RF output? Check with an in-line wattmeter.

WSJT-X is no different than other soundcard data modes.
Do you have the DATA mode input set to LINE IN? If you have a K3S or K3
with the KIO3B *and* are using the internal soundcard, anything plugged
into the LINE IN jack on the K3/K3S will override the audio input from
the internal soundcard.

Do you have the data submode set to DATA A?
The audio drive should be set to produce 4 bars solid on the ALC meter
with the 5th bar flashing - that is the "No ALC" point, the 1st 4 bars
are there to help you adjust the audio drive level. Set the MIC SEL to
LINE and set MIC + LINE to off. Set the soundcard output slider up to
at least 3/4 and then adjust the Line-In (Mic) Gain to obtain the proper
deflection on the ALC meter (you can do that in TX TEST mode without
producing RF).

If you have no indication on the ALC meter, that is good reason for no
RF output.

73,
Do W3FPR

On 1/25/2016 5:26 PM, Ian wrote:
> TXMON installed correctly! Works fb on CW and SSB.
>
>

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Ian

Re: K3S and WSJT-X

Thanks all for the helpful suggestions - turns out the audio drive levels
are pretty sensitive. The WSJT Power slider on the right is very touchy in
combination with the K3S Mic Gain knob. ALC can disappear in an instance!
73, Ian N8IK

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 17:52
To: Ian <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S and WSJT-X

Ian,

Are you actually getting RF output? Check with an in-line wattmeter.

WSJT-X is no different than other soundcard data modes.
Do you have the DATA mode input set to LINE IN? If you have a K3S or K3
with the KIO3B *and* are using the internal soundcard, anything plugged into
the LINE IN jack on the K3/K3S will override the audio input from the
internal soundcard.

Do you have the data submode set to DATA A?
The audio drive should be set to produce 4 bars solid on the ALC meter with
the 5th bar flashing - that is the "No ALC" point, the 1st 4 bars are there
to help you adjust the audio drive level. Set the MIC SEL to LINE and set
MIC + LINE to off. Set the soundcard output slider up to at least 3/4 and
then adjust the Line-In (Mic) Gain to obtain the proper deflection on the
ALC meter (you can do that in TX TEST mode without producing RF).

If you have no indication on the ALC meter, that is good reason for no RF
output.

73,
Do W3FPR

On 1/25/2016 5:26 PM, Ian wrote:
> TXMON installed correctly! Works fb on CW and SSB.
>
>

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Robert Nobis - N7RJN

Re: K3S and WSJT-X

Ian,

I have the same issue with my K3 and WSJT-X. Great care must be taken when making the Tx power adjustment, and it is far too easy to significantly change the ALC level with the slightest movement.

73,

Bob Nobis - N7RJN
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> On Jan 25, 2016, at 18:37, Ian <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Thanks all for the helpful suggestions - turns out the audio drive levels
> are pretty sensitive. The WSJT Power slider on the right is very touchy in
> combination with the K3S Mic Gain knob. ALC can disappear in an instance!
> 73, Ian N8IK
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 17:52
> To: Ian <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S and WSJT-X
>
> Ian,
>
> Are you actually getting RF output? Check with an in-line wattmeter.
>
> WSJT-X is no different than other soundcard data modes.
> Do you have the DATA mode input set to LINE IN? If you have a K3S or K3
> with the KIO3B *and* are using the internal soundcard, anything plugged into
> the LINE IN jack on the K3/K3S will override the audio input from the
> internal soundcard.
>
> Do you have the data submode set to DATA A?
> The audio drive should be set to produce 4 bars solid on the ALC meter with
> the 5th bar flashing - that is the "No ALC" point, the 1st 4 bars are there
> to help you adjust the audio drive level. Set the MIC SEL to LINE and set
> MIC + LINE to off. Set the soundcard output slider up to at least 3/4 and
> then adjust the Line-In (Mic) Gain to obtain the proper deflection on the
> ALC meter (you can do that in TX TEST mode without producing RF).
>
> If you have no indication on the ALC meter, that is good reason for no RF
> output.
>
> 73,
> Do W3FPR
>
> On 1/25/2016 5:26 PM, Ian wrote:
>> TXMON installed correctly! Works fb on CW and SSB.
>>
>>
>
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Re: K3S and WSJT-X

You might try running the K3S LINE Gain at a lower value, in my case 15
to 20, and running the PWR slider in WSJT-X a bit higher. This is also
affected by the SPEAKER level in the Windows Sound controller panel.
Also under "Enhancements" make sure "Disable All Enhancement" box is
checked.

73
Bob, K4TAX

On 1/25/2016 7:41 PM, Robert Nobis wrote:

> Ian,
>
> I have the same issue with my K3 and WSJT-X. Great care must be taken when making the Tx power adjustment, and it is far too easy to significantly change the ALC level with the slightest movement.
>
> 73,
>
>
> Bob Nobis - N7RJN
> [hidden email]
>
>
>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 18:37, Ian <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks all for the helpful suggestions - turns out the audio drive levels
>> are pretty sensitive. The WSJT Power slider on the right is very touchy in
>> combination with the K3S Mic Gain knob. ALC can disappear in an instance!
>> 73, Ian N8IK
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 17:52
>> To: Ian <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S and WSJT-X
>>
>> Ian,
>>
>> Are you actually getting RF output? Check with an in-line wattmeter.
>>
>> WSJT-X is no different than other soundcard data modes.
>> Do you have the DATA mode input set to LINE IN? If you have a K3S or K3
>> with the KIO3B *and* are using the internal soundcard, anything plugged into
>> the LINE IN jack on the K3/K3S will override the audio input from the
>> internal soundcard.
>>
>> Do you have the data submode set to DATA A?
>> The audio drive should be set to produce 4 bars solid on the ALC meter with
>> the 5th bar flashing - that is the "No ALC" point, the 1st 4 bars are there
>> to help you adjust the audio drive level. Set the MIC SEL to LINE and set
>> MIC + LINE to off. Set the soundcard output slider up to at least 3/4 and
>> then adjust the Line-In (Mic) Gain to obtain the proper deflection on the
>> ALC meter (you can do that in TX TEST mode without producing RF).
>>
>> If you have no indication on the ALC meter, that is good reason for no RF
>> output.
>>
>> 73,
>> Do W3FPR
>>
>> On 1/25/2016 5:26 PM, Ian wrote:
>>> TXMON installed correctly! Works fb on CW and SSB.
>>>
>>>
>> -----
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>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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Re: K3S and WSJT-X

Bob,

I have already tried that and several other setting levels. The issue, I believe, is that the PWR slider on WSJT-X is very sensitive. A very small movement results in a big swing in actual power.

73,

Bob Nobis - N7RJN
[hidden email]

> On Jan 25, 2016, at 18:51, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> You might try running the K3S LINE Gain at a lower value, in my case 15 to 20, and running the PWR slider in WSJT-X a bit higher. This is also affected by the SPEAKER level in the Windows Sound controller panel. Also under "Enhancements" make sure "Disable All Enhancement" box is checked.
>
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
>
> On 1/25/2016 7:41 PM, Robert Nobis wrote:
>> Ian,
>>
>> I have the same issue with my K3 and WSJT-X. Great care must be taken when making the Tx power adjustment, and it is far too easy to significantly change the ALC level with the slightest movement.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>
>> Bob Nobis - N7RJN
>> [hidden email]
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 18:37, Ian <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks all for the helpful suggestions - turns out the audio drive levels
>>> are pretty sensitive. The WSJT Power slider on the right is very touchy in
>>> combination with the K3S Mic Gain knob. ALC can disappear in an instance!
>>> 73, Ian N8IK
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 17:52
>>> To: Ian <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S and WSJT-X
>>>
>>> Ian,
>>>
>>> Are you actually getting RF output? Check with an in-line wattmeter.
>>>
>>> WSJT-X is no different than other soundcard data modes.
>>> Do you have the DATA mode input set to LINE IN? If you have a K3S or K3
>>> with the KIO3B *and* are using the internal soundcard, anything plugged into
>>> the LINE IN jack on the K3/K3S will override the audio input from the
>>> internal soundcard.
>>>
>>> Do you have the data submode set to DATA A?
>>> The audio drive should be set to produce 4 bars solid on the ALC meter with
>>> the 5th bar flashing - that is the "No ALC" point, the 1st 4 bars are there
>>> to help you adjust the audio drive level. Set the MIC SEL to LINE and set
>>> MIC + LINE to off. Set the soundcard output slider up to at least 3/4 and
>>> then adjust the Line-In (Mic) Gain to obtain the proper deflection on the
>>> ALC meter (you can do that in TX TEST mode without producing RF).
>>>
>>> If you have no indication on the ALC meter, that is good reason for no RF
>>> output.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Do W3FPR
>>>
>>> On 1/25/2016 5:26 PM, Ian wrote:
>>>> TXMON installed correctly! Works fb on CW and SSB.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> -----
>>> No virus found in this message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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>>>
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Re: K3S and WSJT-X

Let me clarify a point. Use the PWR slider on WSJT-X to adjust the
number of bars on the ALC indication on the radio. Do this in
combination with the {MIC} Line Gain value on the radio. You should
have 4 on solid, 5th flickering. Actual transmit power is controlled by
the PWR value as set on the radio.

73
Bob, K4TAX

On 1/25/2016 8:17 PM, Robert Nobis wrote:

> Bob,
>
> I have already tried that and several other setting levels. The issue, I believe, is that the PWR slider on WSJT-X is very sensitive. A very small movement results in a big swing in actual power.
>
> 73,
>
>
> Bob Nobis - N7RJN
> [hidden email]
>
>
>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 18:51, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> You might try running the K3S LINE Gain at a lower value, in my case 15 to 20, and running the PWR slider in WSJT-X a bit higher. This is also affected by the SPEAKER level in the Windows Sound controller panel. Also under "Enhancements" make sure "Disable All Enhancement" box is checked.
>>
>> 73
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>> On 1/25/2016 7:41 PM, Robert Nobis wrote:
>>> Ian,
>>>
>>> I have the same issue with my K3 and WSJT-X. Great care must be taken when making the Tx power adjustment, and it is far too easy to significantly change the ALC level with the slightest movement.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Nobis - N7RJN
>>> [hidden email]
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 18:37, Ian <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks all for the helpful suggestions - turns out the audio drive levels
>>>> are pretty sensitive. The WSJT Power slider on the right is very touchy in
>>>> combination with the K3S Mic Gain knob. ALC can disappear in an instance!
>>>> 73, Ian N8IK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 17:52
>>>> To: Ian <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S and WSJT-X
>>>>
>>>> Ian,
>>>>
>>>> Are you actually getting RF output? Check with an in-line wattmeter.
>>>>
>>>> WSJT-X is no different than other soundcard data modes.
>>>> Do you have the DATA mode input set to LINE IN? If you have a K3S or K3
>>>> with the KIO3B *and* are using the internal soundcard, anything plugged into
>>>> the LINE IN jack on the K3/K3S will override the audio input from the
>>>> internal soundcard.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have the data submode set to DATA A?
>>>> The audio drive should be set to produce 4 bars solid on the ALC meter with
>>>> the 5th bar flashing - that is the "No ALC" point, the 1st 4 bars are there
>>>> to help you adjust the audio drive level. Set the MIC SEL to LINE and set
>>>> MIC + LINE to off. Set the soundcard output slider up to at least 3/4 and
>>>> then adjust the Line-In (Mic) Gain to obtain the proper deflection on the
>>>> ALC meter (you can do that in TX TEST mode without producing RF).
>>>>
>>>> If you have no indication on the ALC meter, that is good reason for no RF
>>>> output.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Do W3FPR
>>>>
>>>> On 1/25/2016 5:26 PM, Ian wrote:
>>>>> TXMON installed correctly! Works fb on CW and SSB.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> No virus found in this message.
>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>> Version: 2016.0.7357 / Virus Database: 4522/11485 - Release Date: 01/25/16
>>>>
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James Bennett

Re: K3S and WSJT-X

In reply to this post by Robert Nobis - N7RJN

I may be out in left field here, although I've been using WSJT-X for quite some time, but I keep the WSJT-X power slider at the max and control my output power at the K3....

Jim Bennett / W6JHB
Folsom, CA

> On Jan 25, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Robert Nobis <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
> I have already tried that and several other setting levels. The issue, I believe, is that the PWR slider on WSJT-X is very sensitive. A very small movement results in a big swing in actual power.
>
> 73,
>
>
> Bob Nobis - N7RJN
> [hidden email]
>
>
>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 18:51, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> You might try running the K3S LINE Gain at a lower value, in my case 15 to 20, and running the PWR slider in WSJT-X a bit higher. This is also affected by the SPEAKER level in the Windows Sound controller panel. Also under "Enhancements" make sure "Disable All Enhancement" box is checked.
>>
>> 73
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>>> On 1/25/2016 7:41 PM, Robert Nobis wrote:
>>> Ian,
>>>
>>> I have the same issue with my K3 and WSJT-X. Great care must be taken when making the Tx power adjustment, and it is far too easy to significantly change the ALC level with the slightest movement.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Nobis - N7RJN
>>> [hidden email]
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 18:37, Ian <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks all for the helpful suggestions - turns out the audio drive levels
>>>> are pretty sensitive. The WSJT Power slider on the right is very touchy in
>>>> combination with the K3S Mic Gain knob. ALC can disappear in an instance!
>>>> 73, Ian N8IK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 17:52
>>>> To: Ian <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S and WSJT-X
>>>>
>>>> Ian,
>>>>
>>>> Are you actually getting RF output? Check with an in-line wattmeter.
>>>>
>>>> WSJT-X is no different than other soundcard data modes.
>>>> Do you have the DATA mode input set to LINE IN? If you have a K3S or K3
>>>> with the KIO3B *and* are using the internal soundcard, anything plugged into
>>>> the LINE IN jack on the K3/K3S will override the audio input from the
>>>> internal soundcard.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have the data submode set to DATA A?
>>>> The audio drive should be set to produce 4 bars solid on the ALC meter with
>>>> the 5th bar flashing - that is the "No ALC" point, the 1st 4 bars are there
>>>> to help you adjust the audio drive level. Set the MIC SEL to LINE and set
>>>> MIC + LINE to off. Set the soundcard output slider up to at least 3/4 and
>>>> then adjust the Line-In (Mic) Gain to obtain the proper deflection on the
>>>> ALC meter (you can do that in TX TEST mode without producing RF).
>>>>
>>>> If you have no indication on the ALC meter, that is good reason for no RF
>>>> output.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Do W3FPR
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/25/2016 5:26 PM, Ian wrote:
>>>>> TXMON installed correctly! Works fb on CW and SSB.
>>>> -----
>>>> No virus found in this message.
>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>> Version: 2016.0.7357 / Virus Database: 4522/11485 - Release Date: 01/25/16
>>>>
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Ian

Re: K3S and WSJT-X

In reply to this post by Bob McGraw - K4TAX

I now have Mic Gain at LINE 7 per p. 88 of KE7X's book and the WSJT "Pwr
slider" at about -8.8dB to make the 5th ALC bar flicker.
73, Ian N8IK

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bob
McGraw K4TAX
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 21:25
To: Robert Nobis <[hidden email]>
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S and WSJT-X

Let me clarify a point. Use the PWR slider on WSJT-X to adjust the number
of bars on the ALC indication on the radio. Do this in
combination with the {MIC} Line Gain value on the radio. You should
have 4 on solid, 5th flickering. Actual transmit power is controlled by the
PWR value as set on the radio.

73
Bob, K4TAX

On 1/25/2016 8:17 PM, Robert Nobis wrote:
> Bob,
>
> I have already tried that and several other setting levels. The issue, I
believe, is that the PWR slider on WSJT-X is very sensitive. A very small
movement results in a big swing in actual power.

>
> 73,
>
>
> Bob Nobis - N7RJN
> [hidden email]
>
>
>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 18:51, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> You might try running the K3S LINE Gain at a lower value, in my case 15

to 20, and running the PWR slider in WSJT-X a bit higher. This is also
affected by the SPEAKER level in the Windows Sound controller panel. Also
under "Enhancements" make sure "Disable All Enhancement" box is checked.
>>
>> 73
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>> On 1/25/2016 7:41 PM, Robert Nobis wrote:
>>> Ian,
>>>
>>> I have the same issue with my K3 and WSJT-X. Great care must be taken
when making the Tx power adjustment, and it is far too easy to significantly
change the ALC level with the slightest movement.

>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Nobis - N7RJN
>>> [hidden email]
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 18:37, Ian <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks all for the helpful suggestions - turns out the audio drive
>>>> levels are pretty sensitive. The WSJT Power slider on the right is
>>>> very touchy in combination with the K3S Mic Gain knob. ALC can

disappear in an instance!

>>>> 73, Ian N8IK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 17:52
>>>> To: Ian <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S and WSJT-X
>>>>
>>>> Ian,
>>>>
>>>> Are you actually getting RF output? Check with an in-line wattmeter.
>>>>
>>>> WSJT-X is no different than other soundcard data modes.
>>>> Do you have the DATA mode input set to LINE IN? If you have a K3S
>>>> or K3 with the KIO3B *and* are using the internal soundcard,
>>>> anything plugged into the LINE IN jack on the K3/K3S will override
>>>> the audio input from the internal soundcard.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have the data submode set to DATA A?
>>>> The audio drive should be set to produce 4 bars solid on the ALC
>>>> meter with the 5th bar flashing - that is the "No ALC" point, the
>>>> 1st 4 bars are there to help you adjust the audio drive level. Set
>>>> the MIC SEL to LINE and set MIC + LINE to off. Set the soundcard
>>>> output slider up to at least 3/4 and then adjust the Line-In (Mic)
>>>> Gain to obtain the proper deflection on the ALC meter (you can do that

in TX TEST mode without producing RF).

>>>>
>>>> If you have no indication on the ALC meter, that is good reason for
>>>> no RF output.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Do W3FPR
>>>>
>>>> On 1/25/2016 5:26 PM, Ian wrote:
>>>>> TXMON installed correctly! Works fb on CW and SSB.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> No virus found in this message.
>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>> Version: 2016.0.7357 / Virus Database: 4522/11485 - Release Date:
>>>> 01/25/16
>>>>
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