K3S audio could be its biggest selling point
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K3S audio could be its biggest selling point
 
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G’day
Unless a radio sounds nice, however good the RF performance I think we ultimately shy away from using it. If Wayne and Eric have substantially improved the K3 audio quality with the new K3S version, IMHO this is a major step forward and a big sales aid. As a K3 user since 2008 and mostly CW operator, the main reason it finally got displaced from the ‘go-to’ spot on the operating desk here was the tonal quality of the audio, which tired me during long periods of operation. I should add my K3 is fitted with the ‘first generation’ DSP board and I never got around to acquiring the replacement version. The K3’s superb RF performance, in particular under contest conditions and for weak signal DXing on 160m had deservedly kept it welded in place there for almost seven years, but the supporting acts of the old analogue Ten Tec Corsair and Icom IC-751A were easier on the ears and got used for general listening/operating. I finally changed to another modern radio for main duties a month or ago, which sounded better to my ears than my K3 and has a similar RF performance. Vy 73 Steve, VK6VZ >I had a debate a while back (about a year ago) with a friend of mine who got an Icom 7600 and he thought it was far superior to the K3. His evaluation though was listening to the audio of the K3 versus the audio of the Icom 7600. Since the >7600 sounded more like what he thought a good radio should sound like, he chose the 7600. I had been trying to sell him on getting a K3. >So, I am wondering ? is audio quality and tone the big measure of the performance of a radio. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
K3S audio could be its biggest selling point
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Hi Steve,
I am also the one complaining about artifacts in the audio especially during SSB. Hence, improvement in audio will be a big plus to me. 73 Johnny VR2XMC 寄件人︰ Steve Ireland <[hidden email]> 收件人︰ [hidden email] 傳送日期︰ 2015年05月17日 (週日) 1:50 PM 主題︰ [Elecraft] K3S audio could be its biggest selling point G’day Unless a radio sounds nice, however good the RF performance I think we ultimately shy away from using it. If Wayne and Eric have substantially improved the K3 audio quality with the new K3S version, IMHO this is a major step forward and a big sales aid. As a K3 user since 2008 and mostly CW operator, the main reason it finally got displaced from the ‘go-to’ spot on the operating desk here was the tonal quality of the audio, which tired me during long periods of operation. I should add my K3 is fitted with the ‘first generation’ DSP board and I never got around to acquiring the replacement version. The K3’s superb RF performance, in particular under contest conditions and for weak signal DXing on 160m had deservedly kept it welded in place there for almost seven years, but the supporting acts of the old analogue Ten Tec Corsair and Icom IC-751A were easier on the ears and got used for general listening/operating. I finally changed to another modern radio for main duties a month or ago, which sounded better to my ears than my K3 and has a similar RF performance. Vy 73 Steve, VK6VZ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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> As a K3 user since 2008 and mostly CW operator, the main reason it finally
> got displaced from the ‘go-to’ spot on the operating desk here was the > tonal quality of the audio, which tired me during long periods of > operation. I should add my K3 is fitted with the ‘first generation’ DSP > board and I never got around to acquiring the replacement version. > The K3S DSP board is specifically aimed at that complaint and others and will be available for retrofit to K3 later this year. 73, Guy K2AV -- Sent via Gmail Mobile on my iPhone ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On Sun, 17 May 2015 03:37:14 -0400, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
>> As a K3 user since 2008 and mostly CW operator, the main reason it finally >> got displaced from the 'go-to' spot on the operating desk here was the >> tonal quality of the audio, which tired me during long periods of >> operation. I should add my K3 is fitted with the 'first generation' DSP >> board and I never got around to acquiring the replacement version. >> > > The K3S DSP board is specifically aimed at that complaint and others and > will be available for retrofit to K3 later this year. > > 73, Guy K2AV To me the RX audio quality of the K3 has been it's weakest point. Good that Elecraft have finally addressed it. However, at what cost ? The thought of having to purchase 2 new DSP boards (one for the 2nd RX) is not very appealing... I already brought the small add on filter board in the hope that it would improve things (it didn't). 73 Stewart G3RXQ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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In reply to this post by Steve Ireland
The speaker amp and pre-driver for both channels reside on the main DSP
board. Even with the second RX, you would not have to replace the sub RX DSP board. That said, do you find the headphone audio OK, but the speaker (internal or via rear jack) objectionable? If you think the headphone audio is sub-par, then the DSP audio amp improvements will not help you. 73, Bruce N1RX > To me the RX audio quality of the K3 has been it's weakest point. Good > that Elecraft have finally addressed it. However, at what cost ? > The thought of having to purchase 2 new DSP boards (one for the 2nd RX) is > not very appealing... I already brought the small add on filter board in > the hope that it would improve things (it didn't). ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Yes, of course that means only the main DSP board would be changed...
I find the headphone audio fine, so the DSP audio amp improvements may be of use. I will wait to see what others who make the change have to say. Then see whether it is worth spending more money to replace a fairly major K3 PCB. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Sun, 17 May 2015 08:18:17 -0400, Bruce Beford wrote: > The speaker amp and pre-driver for both channels reside on the main DSP > board. Even with the second RX, you would not have to replace the sub RX DSP > board. > > That said, do you find the headphone audio OK, but the speaker (internal or > via rear jack) objectionable? If you think the headphone audio is sub-par, > then the DSP audio amp improvements will not help you. > > 73, > Bruce N1RX > >> To me the RX audio quality of the K3 has been it's weakest point. Good >> that Elecraft have finally addressed it. However, at what cost ? > >> The thought of having to purchase 2 new DSP boards (one for the 2nd RX) is >> not very appealing... I already brought the small add on filter board in >> the hope that it would improve things (it didn't). ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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