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Bob Novas

K3S, fldigi and Windows 10

I've managed to hookup my K3S to my Windows 10 box and receive PSK31 using
fldigi, but I'm not having success transmitting. I put the K3S in VOX mode,
USB, 14.070. I set the Mic+LIN to ON. When I click the Tune button on
fldigi, the K3S transmits, but with very low output. I can't find any audio
Volume control in Windows 10 to adjust the volume - the one control I think
might be the correct control is at max output. It's hard to identify what
audio device is what. Any hints?

Also, the VOX is slow to go from Transmit to Receive when I stop
transmitting.

Are there any resources (e.g., documentation) specifically directed to
fldigi + K3S?

Thanks, Bob - W3DK.

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Re: K3S, fldigi and Windows 10

> I put the K3S in VOX mode, USB, 14.070. I set the Mic+LIN to ON.

*DON'T* use USB for data modes and *DON'T* use Mic+LIN = ON.

Instead, use DATA A for fldigi and set CONFIG:MIC SEL = LINE IN for
data modes. That will allow the MIC Gain to control LINE IN *and*
keep the mic from being "hot" (picking up every sound in the shack).
You may still use VOX with MIC SEL=LINE IN in data modes if you
wish.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 12/28/2015 3:03 PM, Bob Novas wrote:

> I've managed to hookup my K3S to my Windows 10 box and receive PSK31 using
> fldigi, but I'm not having success transmitting. I put the K3S in VOX mode,
> USB, 14.070. I set the Mic+LIN to ON. When I click the Tune button on
> fldigi, the K3S transmits, but with very low output. I can't find any audio
> Volume control in Windows 10 to adjust the volume - the one control I think
> might be the correct control is at max output. It's hard to identify what
> audio device is what. Any hints?
>
>
>
> Also, the VOX is slow to go from Transmit to Receive when I stop
> transmitting.
>
>
>
> Are there any resources (e.g., documentation) specifically directed to
> fldigi + K3S?
>
>
>
> Thanks, Bob - W3DK.
>
>
>
>
>
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Guy Olinger K2AV

Re: K3S, fldigi and Windows 10

In reply to this post by Bob Novas

That sounds suspiciously like an entirely Windows 10 issue.

Click on settings.

In the "find a setting" box type "volume" without the quotes.
The window will switch to a new label "Search Results". click on "Adjust
system volume"

You should get a new panel labeled "Volume Mixer".

Your sound device should be listed. If not, click on the "find and fix
audio playback problems" line under Search Results.

Hope that helps.

I have no comments about the new arrangement and naming of Windows
functionality.

73, Guy K2AV

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Bob Novas <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I've managed to hookup my K3S to my Windows 10 box and receive PSK31 using
> fldigi, but I'm not having success transmitting. I put the K3S in VOX
> mode,
> USB, 14.070. I set the Mic+LIN to ON. When I click the Tune button on
> fldigi, the K3S transmits, but with very low output. I can't find any
> audio
> Volume control in Windows 10 to adjust the volume - the one control I think
> might be the correct control is at max output. It's hard to identify what
> audio device is what. Any hints?
>
>
>
> Also, the VOX is slow to go from Transmit to Receive when I stop
> transmitting.
>
>
>
> Are there any resources (e.g., documentation) specifically directed to
> fldigi + K3S?
>
>
>
> Thanks, Bob - W3DK.
>
>
>
>
>
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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: K3S, fldigi and Windows 10

In reply to this post by Bob Novas

Bob,

Set the K3S to DATA mode with DATA A as the data sub-mode. That sets
compression and equalization to zero, otherwise it is the same as USB.
I am not sure why you have MIC + LINE selected, just set the input
(while in DATA mode) to LINE IN.
I assume you are attempting to use the soundcard built into the K3S - if
so, be certain there is nothing plugged into the LINE IN jack on the
rear panel.

See page 33 of the manual.

To set the audio level, put the K3S into TX TEST and you can set the
level without transmitting any RF.
Adjust the LINE IN level to produce 4 bars solid on the ALC meter with
the 5th bar flickering - that is the "no ALC" point for the K3S (ALC
begins at the 5th bar).
Failure to set the audio to that level will result in the K3S "power
hunting" in an effort to maintain the power level you have requested
with the power knob.

You can use both the computer audio playback slider and the K3S 'MIC
GAIN' (it will set the line in level).

To change the soundcard settings in Windows 10, right click on the
speaker icon in the right lower corner of the screen, then select
"Playback Devices"
In the window that opens, right click on the device that represents the
soundcard you wish to control and select Properties.
On the window that opens, click on the Levels tab and you can see the
slider for either Speakers or Line Out - adjust the slider with your mouse.

I don't know of any documentation specific to the K3S.
For the VOX problem, check the setting you have for VOX delay.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/28/2015 3:03 PM, Bob Novas wrote:

Don Wilhelm-4

Re: K3S, fldigi and Windows 10

Of course there is documentation for the K3S.
I meant to say for the K3S and Fldigi.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/28/2015 3:49 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>
>
> I don't know of any documentation specific to the K3S.

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Re: K3S, fldigi and Windows 10

In reply to this post by Guy Olinger K2AV

Even simpler - right-click on the little speaker icon in the lower right
(the task bar). You will then get a menu (It's called a Context Menu)
that contains, among other things, "Input Devices" and "Output
Devices". Click on "Output Devices".

You will find displayed a dialog box with all of your output devices. I
say "all" because if you're running Windows 10 you're probably running a
fairly modern computer and you're likely to have at least three. You
will probably have an HDMI output and possibly a Digital Output.
Hopefully, you'll have one simply called "Speakers". Highlight the
device and then click on the Properties button on the lower left. You'll
now have another dialog with some tabs along the top. You should see
Audio output as the first item.

Lower down you should see controls to adjust your input levels as well.
You might have several. Some systems have a "line in" as well as a "mic
in". "Line in" is preferable if you have one. The next tab over is
"Enhancements". It's wise to be sure that all "Enhancements" are turn
off. You can insure this is so by clicking and checking "Disable all
sound effects".

So - netting it out - Right-click on the speaker icon located on the
right side of the task bar. Then choose "Output Devices" and you're all
set.

And taking just a moment to stand on my soap box, I spent many years
working as a Usability Engineer at IBM. I'm also a Windows 10 Beta
Tester. I can say, without a doubt, Windows 10 is the best Windows
ever. Windows 7 has pretty much been abandoned with only the most
critical security updates being issued.

I understand some people don't like the menu system. I don't either and
fought as hard as I could to convince the deciders that they were making
a mistake - to no avail. They have a long term strategy that they are
convinced will win over time.

For the here and now, you can greatly improve Windows 10's usability by
installing Start 10 <http://www.stardock.com/products/start10/> . It's
costs $4.99 and well worth it. This is advice not an advertisement.
With Start 10 installed, your Windows 10 computer will look and work
very much like windows 7. There is also Start 8 for people still using
the tragedy known as Windows 8.

And please, this isn't a Windows 10 problem. Windows has worked pretty
much the same way for these devices for the past 20 years.

73, Doug -- K0DXV

On 12/28/2015 1:39 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

> That sounds suspiciously like an entirely Windows 10 issue.
>
> Click on settings.
>
> In the "find a setting" box type "volume" without the quotes.
> The window will switch to a new label "Search Results". click on "Adjust
> system volume"
>
> You should get a new panel labeled "Volume Mixer".
>
> Your sound device should be listed. If not, click on the "find and fix
> audio playback problems" line under Search Results.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> I have no comments about the new arrangement and naming of Windows
> functionality.
>
> 73, Guy K2AV
>
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Bob Novas <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I've managed to hookup my K3S to my Windows 10 box and receive PSK31 using
>> fldigi, but I'm not having success transmitting. I put the K3S in VOX
>> mode,
>> USB, 14.070. I set the Mic+LIN to ON. When I click the Tune button on
>> fldigi, the K3S transmits, but with very low output. I can't find any
>> audio
>> Volume control in Windows 10 to adjust the volume - the one control I think
>> might be the correct control is at max output. It's hard to identify what
>> audio device is what. Any hints?
>>
>>
>>
>> Also, the VOX is slow to go from Transmit to Receive when I stop
>> transmitting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Are there any resources (e.g., documentation) specifically directed to
>> fldigi + K3S?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Bob - W3DK.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Tony Scandurra K4QE

Re: K3S, fldigi and Windows 10

Classic Shell is free. It also provides the familiar Start Menu.

http://www.classicshell.net/

73, Tony K4QE

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 11:54 PM, Doug Person via Elecraft <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Even simpler - right-click on the little speaker icon in the lower right
> (the task bar). You will then get a menu (It's called a Context Menu) that
> contains, among other things, "Input Devices" and "Output Devices". Click
> on "Output Devices".
>
> You will find displayed a dialog box with all of your output devices. I
> say "all" because if you're running Windows 10 you're probably running a
> fairly modern computer and you're likely to have at least three. You will
> probably have an HDMI output and possibly a Digital Output. Hopefully,
> you'll have one simply called "Speakers". Highlight the device and then
> click on the Properties button on the lower left. You'll now have another
> dialog with some tabs along the top. You should see Audio output as the
> first item.
>
> Lower down you should see controls to adjust your input levels as well.
> You might have several. Some systems have a "line in" as well as a "mic
> in". "Line in" is preferable if you have one. The next tab over is
> "Enhancements". It's wise to be sure that all "Enhancements" are turn
> off. You can insure this is so by clicking and checking "Disable all sound
> effects".
>
> So - netting it out - Right-click on the speaker icon located on the right
> side of the task bar. Then choose "Output Devices" and you're all set.
>
> And taking just a moment to stand on my soap box, I spent many years
> working as a Usability Engineer at IBM. I'm also a Windows 10 Beta
> Tester. I can say, without a doubt, Windows 10 is the best Windows ever.
> Windows 7 has pretty much been abandoned with only the most critical
> security updates being issued.
>
> I understand some people don't like the menu system. I don't either and
> fought as hard as I could to convince the deciders that they were making a
> mistake - to no avail. They have a long term strategy that they are
> convinced will win over time.
>
> For the here and now, you can greatly improve Windows 10's usability by
> installing Start 10 <http://www.stardock.com/products/start10/> . It's
> costs $4.99 and well worth it. This is advice not an advertisement. With
> Start 10 installed, your Windows 10 computer will look and work very much
> like windows 7. There is also Start 8 for people still using the tragedy
> known as Windows 8.
>
> And please, this isn't a Windows 10 problem. Windows has worked pretty
> much the same way for these devices for the past 20 years.
>
> 73, Doug -- K0DXV
>
> On 12/28/2015 1:39 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
>
>> That sounds suspiciously like an entirely Windows 10 issue.
>>
>> Click on settings.
>>
>> In the "find a setting" box type "volume" without the quotes.
>> The window will switch to a new label "Search Results". click on "Adjust
>> system volume"
>>
>> You should get a new panel labeled "Volume Mixer".
>>
>> Your sound device should be listed. If not, click on the "find and fix
>> audio playback problems" line under Search Results.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> I have no comments about the new arrangement and naming of Windows
>> functionality.
>>
>> 73, Guy K2AV
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Bob Novas <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I've managed to hookup my K3S to my Windows 10 box and receive PSK31 using
>>> fldigi, but I'm not having success transmitting. I put the K3S in VOX
>>> mode,
>>> USB, 14.070. I set the Mic+LIN to ON. When I click the Tune button on
>>> fldigi, the K3S transmits, but with very low output. I can't find any
>>> audio
>>> Volume control in Windows 10 to adjust the volume - the one control I
>>> think
>>> might be the correct control is at max output. It's hard to identify
>>> what
>>> audio device is what. Any hints?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, the VOX is slow to go from Transmit to Receive when I stop
>>> transmitting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Are there any resources (e.g., documentation) specifically directed to
>>> fldigi + K3S?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, Bob - W3DK.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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