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Rick Dwight

K3S poor CW

About a decade ago I used contest software to key my Ten Tec via a home brew optical serial port adaptor. It worked
but not perfectly, some characters delayed or truncated, especially with high speed CW. Changed to a winkeyer
with USB interface. This has always worked great with all rigs, including my present K3S. I now use a windows
10 PC, but not N1MM software. Others have reported success with the winkeyer, and you may find some
of the other features nifty also. Good Luck Rick KL7CW KX1, KX2, K3S, etc.

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Jim Brown-10

Re: K3S poor CW

On 4/23/2020 10:46 AM, Frederick Dwight wrote:
> Changed to a winkeyer
> with USB interface. This has always worked great with all rigs, including my present K3S.

Winkeyer (and winkeyer emulations) are very widely used by serious
contesters, some of whom tool along at 40 wpm.

73, Jim K9YC
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Jim Rhodes-2

Re: K3S poor CW

Any software only CW implementation is going to have timing issues,
especially with the newer operating systems. Best to offload that task to a
processor with nothing else to do. Winkey or Mortty or something similar.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 13:00 Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 4/23/2020 10:46 AM, Frederick Dwight wrote:
> > Changed to a winkeyer
> > with USB interface. This has always worked great with all rigs,
> including my present K3S.
>
> Winkeyer (and winkeyer emulations) are very widely used by serious
> contesters, some of whom tool along at 40 wpm.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Buck

Re: K3S poor CW

WKMini is $55 from hamcrafters2.com. It stores the USB commands (which
come very fast and are not subject to timing issues) and decodes into
perfect dits and dahs.

Buck, k4ia
Honor Roll
8BDXCC
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On 4/23/2020 2:05 PM, Jim Rhodes wrote:

> Any software only CW implementation is going to have timing issues,
> especially with the newer operating systems. Best to offload that task to a
> processor with nothing else to do. Winkey or Mortty or something similar.
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 13:00 Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> On 4/23/2020 10:46 AM, Frederick Dwight wrote:
>>> Changed to a winkeyer
>>> with USB interface. This has always worked great with all rigs,
>> including my present K3S.
>>
>> Winkeyer (and winkeyer emulations) are very widely used by serious
>> contesters, some of whom tool along at 40 wpm.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
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donovanf

Re: K3S poor CW

In reply to this post by Jim Rhodes-2

Not quite true Jim. Perhaps it would be true to say " Most software
only CW implementation..."

Win-Test produces superb CW from its USB or parallel port
with just about any computer that will host Windows 7 or 10.

73
Frank
W3LPL

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Any software only CW implementation is going to have timing issues,
especially with the newer operating systems. Best to offload that task to a
processor with nothing else to do. Winkey or Mortty or something similar.

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Christopher Hoover

Re: K3S poor CW

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I sure wish that K3S implemented winkeyer protocol internally. I hope this
will be true for K4.

73 de Ai6KG

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 10:50 AM Frederick Dwight <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> About a decade ago I used contest software to key my Ten Tec via a home
> brew optical serial port adaptor. It worked
> but not perfectly, some characters delayed or truncated, especially with
> high speed CW. Changed to a winkeyer
> with USB interface. This has always worked great with all rigs, including
> my present K3S. I now use a windows
> 10 PC, but not N1MM software. Others have reported success with the
> winkeyer, and you may find some
> of the other features nifty also. Good Luck Rick KL7CW KX1,
> KX2, K3S, etc.
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Jim Rhodes-2

Re: K3S poor CW

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Or Mortty for half of that, plus a little solder.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 13:30 Buck <[hidden email]> wrote:

> WKMini is $55 from hamcrafters2.com. It stores the USB commands (which
> come very fast and are not subject to timing issues) and decodes into
> perfect dits and dahs.
>
> Buck, k4ia
> Honor Roll
> 8BDXCC
> EasyWayHamBooks.com
>
> On 4/23/2020 2:05 PM, Jim Rhodes wrote:
> > Any software only CW implementation is going to have timing issues,
> > especially with the newer operating systems. Best to offload that task
> to a
> > processor with nothing else to do. Winkey or Mortty or something similar.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 13:00 Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/23/2020 10:46 AM, Frederick Dwight wrote:
> >>> Changed to a winkeyer
> >>> with USB interface. This has always worked great with all rigs,
> >> including my present K3S.
> >>
> >> Winkeyer (and winkeyer emulations) are very widely used by serious
> >> contesters, some of whom tool along at 40 wpm.
> >>
> >> 73, Jim K9YC
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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: K3S poor CW

That's not what makes my CW poor. And I've found nothing to make it
any better. I just need software that sends what I'm thinking. But
then, at age 77, that would be about 5 WPM or so.

I use either single lever or dual lever paddles with my K3S. I've not
observed anything related to K3S poor CW other than the operator.

73

Bob, K4TAX

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