K3s/P3 with SDR Play, Win4K3 & Skimmer
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Hello all.
I would like to know if anybody is successfully running their K3/K3s with (specifically) an SDRPlay, Win4K3 software, and CW Skimmer, and if so, how did you hook it all together? My thought is to start reading up now, and then buy the hardware and software at Dayton this year and play with it over the summer before contest season starts. I'm specifically curious about getting RF into the SDRPlay. Do you use the IF connection out from the P3, or something else? I have three antennas coming in to my K3s at the moment: the primary TX/RX feed on ANT-1, a K9AY receive antenna on RX IN, and an untuned vertical wire connected to the AUX antenna port, which is used only for diversity reception. The radio is connected via the USB interface exclusively, with no analog sound connections at the moment. I don't plan to use this configuration for normal day-to-day operating. I'm quite happy using the K3 as a conventional radio and just using the P3 as a bandscope. This will be exclusively for CW contesting, and CW Dxpedition pileups. One final question for those who have accomplished this successfully, which model SDRplay are you using, and is there a specific reason for recommending one version over another at this point? Thanks again! --------------------------------------------- 73 and Good DX Peter, W2IRT President, North Jersey DX Association DXCC Card Checker Letter O Manager, ARRL Incoming 2nd District QSL bureau ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Re: K3s/P3 with SDR Play, Win4K3 & Skimmer
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I can only speak to Win4K3Suite.
There are two components to be installed by the user, the program and com0com, the latter is used to assign ports so Win4K3Suite can utilize the multi virtual port feature. It is simple to do both but you must follow the directions which are laid out well. There are many features of it that I don't use but to everything I use it for with the K3s & K3, it is perfect. 73, Gary KA1J > Hello all. > > > > I would like to know if anybody is successfully running their K3/K3s > with (specifically) an SDRPlay, Win4K3 software, and CW Skimmer, and > if so, how did you hook it all together? > > > > My thought is to start reading up now, and then buy the hardware and > software at Dayton this year and play with it over the summer before > contest season starts. > > I'm specifically curious about getting RF into the SDRPlay. Do you use > the IF connection out from the P3, or something else? I have three > antennas coming in to my K3s at the moment: the primary TX/RX feed on > ANT-1, a K9AY receive antenna on RX IN, and an untuned vertical wire > connected to the AUX antenna port, which is used only for diversity > reception. The radio is connected via the USB interface exclusively, > with no analog sound connections at the moment. > > I don't plan to use this configuration for normal day-to-day > operating. I'm quite happy using the K3 as a conventional radio and > just using the P3 as a bandscope. This will be exclusively for CW > contesting, and CW Dxpedition pileups. > > One final question for those who have accomplished this successfully, > which model SDRplay are you using, and is there a specific reason for > recommending one version over another at this point? Thanks again! > > > --------------------------------------------- > 73 and Good DX > Peter, W2IRT > > > > President, North Jersey DX Association > > DXCC Card Checker > Letter O Manager, ARRL Incoming 2nd District QSL bureau > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hi,
Win4K3 does not currently provide an IQ out for use with the SDRPlay. Therefore CW skimmer will not get an IQ feed. (This will come in a future update) An LPPAN and a sound card does. This gives you a maximum bandwidth of 192kHz in the spectrum scope. CWSkimmer gives less bandwidth so an SDRPlay does not give an advantage. In terms of the quality of the signal, the LPPAN / Sound card is superior. Of course the built in virtual radios allow you to use any panadapter software such as HDSDR and SDRUno which have the IQ out that can be used with CW Skimmer. 73 Tom Va2fsq.com -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Peter Dougherty Sent: March 24, 2019 11:37 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] K3s/P3 with SDR Play, Win4K3 & Skimmer Hello all. I would like to know if anybody is successfully running their K3/K3s with (specifically) an SDRPlay, Win4K3 software, and CW Skimmer, and if so, how did you hook it all together? My thought is to start reading up now, and then buy the hardware and software at Dayton this year and play with it over the summer before contest season starts. I'm specifically curious about getting RF into the SDRPlay. Do you use the IF connection out from the P3, or something else? I have three antennas coming in to my K3s at the moment: the primary TX/RX feed on ANT-1, a K9AY receive antenna on RX IN, and an untuned vertical wire connected to the AUX antenna port, which is used only for diversity reception. The radio is connected via the USB interface exclusively, with no analog sound connections at the moment. I don't plan to use this configuration for normal day-to-day operating. I'm quite happy using the K3 as a conventional radio and just using the P3 as a bandscope. This will be exclusively for CW contesting, and CW Dxpedition pileups. One final question for those who have accomplished this successfully, which model SDRplay are you using, and is there a specific reason for recommending one version over another at this point? Thanks again! --------------------------------------------- 73 and Good DX Peter, W2IRT President, North Jersey DX Association DXCC Card Checker Letter O Manager, ARRL Incoming 2nd District QSL bureau ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: K3s/P3 with SDR Play, Win4K3 & Skimmer
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OK, then this will probably all have to wait. I thought it was the other way
around; that the SDRPlay box fed I/Q data into the PC, which Win4K3 interpreted and displayed. I own an LP-Pan2 and it's full of birdies and mirror images/etc. Tried four high-end sound cards and they were all the same, and it was far more of a problem than it was worth. Maybe my PC is just too noisy, which I guess is possible. If my proposed idea won't fly, then what will (short of buying a Perseus or $$$omething similar)? - pjd -----Original Message----- From: Tom <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 1:30 PM To: 'Peter Dougherty' <[hidden email]>; [hidden email] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3s/P3 with SDR Play, Win4K3 & Skimmer Hi, Win4K3 does not currently provide an IQ out for use with the SDRPlay. Therefore CW skimmer will not get an IQ feed. (This will come in a future update) An LPPAN and a sound card does. This gives you a maximum bandwidth of 192kHz in the spectrum scope. CWSkimmer gives less bandwidth so an SDRPlay does not give an advantage. In terms of the quality of the signal, the LPPAN / Sound card is superior. Of course the built in virtual radios allow you to use any panadapter software such as HDSDR and SDRUno which have the IQ out that can be used with CW Skimmer. 73 Tom Va2fsq.com -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Peter Dougherty Sent: March 24, 2019 11:37 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] K3s/P3 with SDR Play, Win4K3 & Skimmer Hello all. I would like to know if anybody is successfully running their K3/K3s with (specifically) an SDRPlay, Win4K3 software, and CW Skimmer, and if so, how did you hook it all together? My thought is to start reading up now, and then buy the hardware and software at Dayton this year and play with it over the summer before contest season starts. I'm specifically curious about getting RF into the SDRPlay. Do you use the IF connection out from the P3, or something else? I have three antennas coming in to my K3s at the moment: the primary TX/RX feed on ANT-1, a K9AY receive antenna on RX IN, and an untuned vertical wire connected to the AUX antenna port, which is used only for diversity reception. The radio is connected via the USB interface exclusively, with no analog sound connections at the moment. I don't plan to use this configuration for normal day-to-day operating. I'm quite happy using the K3 as a conventional radio and just using the P3 as a bandscope. This will be exclusively for CW contesting, and CW Dxpedition pileups. One final question for those who have accomplished this successfully, which model SDRplay are you using, and is there a specific reason for recommending one version over another at this point? Thanks again! --------------------------------------------- 73 and Good DX Peter, W2IRT President, North Jersey DX Association DXCC Card Checker Letter O Manager, ARRL Incoming 2nd District QSL bureau ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Lovin' my K3S (S/N 10023)
73, Peter W2IRT |
Re: K3s/P3 with SDR Play, Win4K3 & Skimmer
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OK, then this will probably all have to wait. I thought it was the other
way around; that the SDRPlay box fed I/Q data into the PC, which Win4K3 interpreted and displayed. I own an LP-Pan2 and it's full of birdies and mirror images/etc. Tried four high-end sound cards and they were all the same, and it was far more of a problem than it was worth. Maybe my PC is just too noisy, which I guess is possible. If my proposed idea won't fly, then what will (short of buying a Perseus or $$$omething similar)? - pjd -----Original Message----- From: Tom <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 1:30 PM To: 'Peter Dougherty' <[hidden email]>; [hidden email] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3s/P3 with SDR Play, Win4K3 & Skimmer Hi, Win4K3 does not currently provide an IQ out for use with the SDRPlay. Therefore CW skimmer will not get an IQ feed. (This will come in a future update) An LPPAN and a sound card does. This gives you a maximum bandwidth of 192kHz in the spectrum scope. CWSkimmer gives less bandwidth so an SDRPlay does not give an advantage. In terms of the quality of the signal, the LPPAN / Sound card is superior. Of course the built in virtual radios allow you to use any panadapter software such as HDSDR and SDRUno which have the IQ out that can be used with CW Skimmer. 73 Tom Va2fsq.com -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Peter Dougherty Sent: March 24, 2019 11:37 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] K3s/P3 with SDR Play, Win4K3 & Skimmer Hello all. I would like to know if anybody is successfully running their K3/K3s with (specifically) an SDRPlay, Win4K3 software, and CW Skimmer, and if so, how did you hook it all together? My thought is to start reading up now, and then buy the hardware and software at Dayton this year and play with it over the summer before contest season starts. I'm specifically curious about getting RF into the SDRPlay. Do you use the IF connection out from the P3, or something else? I have three antennas coming in to my K3s at the moment: the primary TX/RX feed on ANT-1, a K9AY receive antenna on RX IN, and an untuned vertical wire connected to the AUX antenna port, which is used only for diversity reception. The radio is connected via the USB interface exclusively, with no analog sound connections at the moment. I don't plan to use this configuration for normal day-to-day operating. I'm quite happy using the K3 as a conventional radio and just using the P3 as a bandscope. This will be exclusively for CW contesting, and CW Dxpedition pileups. One final question for those who have accomplished this successfully, which model SDRplay are you using, and is there a specific reason for recommending one version over another at this point? Thanks again! --------------------------------------------- 73 and Good DX Peter, W2IRT President, North Jersey DX Association DXCC Card Checker Letter O Manager, ARRL Incoming 2nd District QSL bureau ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Hi,
The LPPAN shouldn't have been like that. However, as I mentioned previously, you can use another SDR software just for the scope that can forward IQ data like HDSDR. You will then still have all the abilities of Win4K3 just the scope will be delivered by different software. 73 -----Original Message----- From: Peter Dougherty <[hidden email]> Sent: March 24, 2019 2:28 PM To: 'Tom' <[hidden email]>; [hidden email] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3s/P3 with SDR Play, Win4K3 & Skimmer OK, then this will probably all have to wait. I thought it was the other way around; that the SDRPlay box fed I/Q data into the PC, which Win4K3 interpreted and displayed. I own an LP-Pan2 and it's full of birdies and mirror images/etc. Tried four high-end sound cards and they were all the same, and it was far more of a problem than it was worth. Maybe my PC is just too noisy, which I guess is possible. If my proposed idea won't fly, then what will (short of buying a Perseus or $$$omething similar)? - pjd -----Original Message----- From: Tom <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 1:30 PM To: 'Peter Dougherty' <[hidden email]>; [hidden email] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3s/P3 with SDR Play, Win4K3 & Skimmer Hi, Win4K3 does not currently provide an IQ out for use with the SDRPlay. Therefore CW skimmer will not get an IQ feed. (This will come in a future update) An LPPAN and a sound card does. This gives you a maximum bandwidth of 192kHz in the spectrum scope. CWSkimmer gives less bandwidth so an SDRPlay does not give an advantage. In terms of the quality of the signal, the LPPAN / Sound card is superior. Of course the built in virtual radios allow you to use any panadapter software such as HDSDR and SDRUno which have the IQ out that can be used with CW Skimmer. 73 Tom Va2fsq.com -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Peter Dougherty Sent: March 24, 2019 11:37 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] K3s/P3 with SDR Play, Win4K3 & Skimmer Hello all. I would like to know if anybody is successfully running their K3/K3s with (specifically) an SDRPlay, Win4K3 software, and CW Skimmer, and if so, how did you hook it all together? My thought is to start reading up now, and then buy the hardware and software at Dayton this year and play with it over the summer before contest season starts. I'm specifically curious about getting RF into the SDRPlay. Do you use the IF connection out from the P3, or something else? I have three antennas coming in to my K3s at the moment: the primary TX/RX feed on ANT-1, a K9AY receive antenna on RX IN, and an untuned vertical wire connected to the AUX antenna port, which is used only for diversity reception. The radio is connected via the USB interface exclusively, with no analog sound connections at the moment. I don't plan to use this configuration for normal day-to-day operating. I'm quite happy using the K3 as a conventional radio and just using the P3 as a bandscope. This will be exclusively for CW contesting, and CW Dxpedition pileups. One final question for those who have accomplished this successfully, which model SDRplay are you using, and is there a specific reason for recommending one version over another at this point? Thanks again! --------------------------------------------- 73 and Good DX Peter, W2IRT President, North Jersey DX Association DXCC Card Checker Letter O Manager, ARRL Incoming 2nd District QSL bureau ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hello Peter, All,
I am using SDRPlayIntf.dll (see CW Skimmer page) with CW Skimmer and K3. The external preamplifier option is used to get antenna signal during receive to a splitter and than back to K3 and to the SDRPlay. This does not give me a band scope, but a band map filled with stations an the local antenna. Which is ideal for "assisted" operation during a contest. Vy73 Harald DD0VS .-.-. --... ...-- -.. -.. ----- ...- ... > Am 24.03.2019 um 16:37 schrieb Peter Dougherty <[hidden email]>: > > Hello all. > > > > I would like to know if anybody is successfully running their K3/K3s with > (specifically) an SDRPlay, Win4K3 software, and CW Skimmer, and if so, how > did you hook it all together? > > > > My thought is to start reading up now, and then buy the hardware and > software at Dayton this year and play with it over the summer before contest > season starts. > > I'm specifically curious about getting RF into the SDRPlay. Do you use the > IF connection out from the P3, or something else? I have three antennas > coming in to my K3s at the moment: the primary TX/RX feed on ANT-1, a K9AY > receive antenna on RX IN, and an untuned vertical wire connected to the AUX > antenna port, which is used only for diversity reception. The radio is > connected via the USB interface exclusively, with no analog sound > connections at the moment. > > I don't plan to use this configuration for normal day-to-day operating. I'm > quite happy using the K3 as a conventional radio and just using the P3 as a > bandscope. This will be exclusively for CW contesting, and CW Dxpedition > pileups. > > One final question for those who have accomplished this successfully, which > model SDRplay are you using, and is there a specific reason for recommending > one version over another at this point? Thanks again! > > > --------------------------------------------- > 73 and Good DX > Peter, W2IRT > > > > President, North Jersey DX Association > > DXCC Card Checker > Letter O Manager, ARRL Incoming 2nd District QSL bureau > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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