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Gary Smith-2

K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.

Folks,

I posted this on the WSJT-X reflector but
got no replies. Perhaps someone here has
the answer.

---------------

Using Windows 10... Joy...

I have WSJT-X set up to use the K3s USB
Audio Codec, input & output. Both are
selected as Mono.

The codec is selected in the computer.

I have found no way to get the K3s to
transmit unless the K3s USB codec is set
to default device in the computer.

If I have another soundcard/option
selected in the computer, the K3s will
indeed present transmit mode as WSJT-X
signals it to do, but there is no RF
generated from the K3s. It's Lights on,
nobody home. WSJT works fine but also
transfers any computer sound to the K3s
during transmit.

If nothing is playing on the computer and
the codec is selected as default, I have
no trouble with anything WSJT-X related.
This is how I have had to have it working
for the last 10 months. However, I
recently discovered a youtube was playing
on another page and that audio was coming
through with my WSJT transmission. This is
unacceptable.

Bottom line seems to be, I must have the
K3s USB codec selected as default in the
windows sound control panel or I cannot
transmit with WSJT-X.

There must be another something I'm
missing but I can't seem to find it.

Any suggestions?

73,

Gary
KA1J

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Peter Lambert

Re: K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.

G'day Gary,

This should work :

Run WSJT-X

Go to the system settings via the cog in the start menu.

Click on "System (Display, sound, notifications")

Click on "Sound"

Scroll down to "Other sound options" and click on "App volume and
device preferences".

Select WSJT-X from the list of displayed apps and select your USB
CODEC for both input and output.

Note that I don't use WSJT-X but that's how it's done for everything else.

Cheers,
Peter VK4JD

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gary Smith
Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2019 1:53 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows
default.

Folks,

I posted this on the WSJT-X reflector but
got no replies. Perhaps someone here has
the answer.

---------------

Using Windows 10... Joy...

I have WSJT-X set up to use the K3s USB
Audio Codec, input & output. Both are
selected as Mono.

The codec is selected in the computer.

I have found no way to get the K3s to
transmit unless the K3s USB codec is set
to default device in the computer.

If I have another soundcard/option
selected in the computer, the K3s will
indeed present transmit mode as WSJT-X
signals it to do, but there is no RF
generated from the K3s. It's Lights on,
nobody home. WSJT works fine but also
transfers any computer sound to the K3s
during transmit.

If nothing is playing on the computer and
the codec is selected as default, I have
no trouble with anything WSJT-X related.
This is how I have had to have it working
for the last 10 months. However, I
recently discovered a youtube was playing
on another page and that audio was coming
through with my WSJT transmission. This is
unacceptable.

Bottom line seems to be, I must have the
K3s USB codec selected as default in the
windows sound control panel or I cannot
transmit with WSJT-X.

There must be another something I'm
missing but I can't seem to find it.

Any suggestions?

73,

Gary
KA1J

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Gary Smith-2

Re: K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.

Peter,

Absolutely brilliant! I never have seen
this windows page or read about it, but it
absolutely did the trick. I now have an
alternate soundcard selected in windows
sound control panel and have WSJT-X
configured in App volume and device
preferences.

I have to experiment to be sure nothing
gets out sound-wise from the computer but
at first exposure, this looks to be dead
on.

How many others have not yet discovered
this!

73!

Gary
KA1J

> G'day Gary,
>
> This should work :
>
> Run WSJT-X
>
> Go to the system settings via the cog in the start menu.
>
> Click on "System (Display, sound, notifications")
>
> Click on "Sound"
>
> Scroll down to "Other sound options" and click on "App volume and
> device preferences".
>
> Select WSJT-X from the list of displayed apps and select your USB
> CODEC for both input and output.
>
> Note that I don't use WSJT-X but that's how it's done for everything
> else.
>
> Cheers,
> Peter VK4JD
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gary Smith
> Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2019 1:53 PM To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is
> windows default.
>
> Folks,
>
> I posted this on the WSJT-X reflector but
> got no replies. Perhaps someone here has
> the answer.
>
> ---------------
>
> Using Windows 10... Joy...
>
> I have WSJT-X set up to use the K3s USB
> Audio Codec, input & output. Both are
> selected as Mono.
>
> The codec is selected in the computer.
>
> I have found no way to get the K3s to
> transmit unless the K3s USB codec is set
> to default device in the computer.
>
> If I have another soundcard/option
> selected in the computer, the K3s will
> indeed present transmit mode as WSJT-X
> signals it to do, but there is no RF
> generated from the K3s. It's Lights on,
> nobody home. WSJT works fine but also
> transfers any computer sound to the K3s
> during transmit.
>
> If nothing is playing on the computer and
> the codec is selected as default, I have
> no trouble with anything WSJT-X related.
> This is how I have had to have it working
> for the last 10 months. However, I
> recently discovered a youtube was playing
> on another page and that audio was coming
> through with my WSJT transmission. This is
> unacceptable.
>
> Bottom line seems to be, I must have the
> K3s USB codec selected as default in the
> windows sound control panel or I cannot
> transmit with WSJT-X.
>
> There must be another something I'm
> missing but I can't seem to find it.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> 73,
>
> Gary
> KA1J
>
>
>
>
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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.

In reply to this post by Gary Smith-2

Are you saying the K3S does not go into the transmit mode, or are you
saying there is no audio?

From the K3S CONFIG menu you should have RS232 set to USB. The K3S
Menu should have MIC SEL set to Line IN. Is anything plugged into the
Line In on the back of the radio?   Unplug it if so. The radio Data MD
should be set to DATA A.

With the F2 Setup Menu of WSJT-X the Radio pane: Data Bits as 8, Stop
bit as 1 and Handshake as NONE.   PTT Method as CAT, Mode as Data/Pkt,
Split operation as RIG.    On the Audio pane: Soundcard both Input and
Output should be USB Audio CODEC and Mono.

This is my configuration.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 1/18/2019 9:53 PM, Gary Smith wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I posted this on the WSJT-X reflector but
> got no replies. Perhaps someone here has
> the answer.
>
> ---------------
>
> Using Windows 10... Joy...
>
> I have WSJT-X set up to use the K3s USB
> Audio Codec, input & output. Both are
> selected as Mono.
>
> The codec is selected in the computer.
>
> I have found no way to get the K3s to
> transmit unless the K3s USB codec is set
> to default device in the computer.
>
> If I have another soundcard/option
> selected in the computer, the K3s will
> indeed present transmit mode as WSJT-X
> signals it to do, but there is no RF
> generated from the K3s. It's Lights on,
> nobody home. WSJT works fine but also
> transfers any computer sound to the K3s
> during transmit.
>
> If nothing is playing on the computer and
> the codec is selected as default, I have
> no trouble with anything WSJT-X related.
> This is how I have had to have it working
> for the last 10 months. However, I
> recently discovered a youtube was playing
> on another page and that audio was coming
> through with my WSJT transmission. This is
> unacceptable.
>
> Bottom line seems to be, I must have the
> K3s USB codec selected as default in the
> windows sound control panel or I cannot
> transmit with WSJT-X.
>
> There must be another something I'm
> missing but I can't seem to find it.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> 73,
>
> Gary
> KA1J
>
>
>
>
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Barry LaZar

Re: K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.

I have a K3s and have never used CAT for PTT fuctions. I found it to
hard to set up and think about. I do use VOX for keying the transmitter.
I find that works very well and is mindlessly simple to set up. The only
thing you need to know is to remember to turn the VOX function on and
make sure you have enough audio going in to satisfy the 4 steady bars
with a 5th flickering on the ALC indicator. This approach allow me to
switch to differing digital software with little need to do further set
ups. I suggest that those who are having problems setting up CAT for
their radios give this a try and see how well it works. And BTW: I do
use FT8 fairly regularly as well as RTTY and PSK31.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "Bob McGraw K4TAX" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: 1/19/2019 9:36:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is
windows default.

>Are you saying the K3S does not go into the transmit mode, or are you saying there is no audio?
>
>From the K3S CONFIG menu you should have RS232 set to USB. The K3S Menu should have MIC SEL set to Line IN. Is anything plugged into the Line In on the back of the radio? Unplug it if so. The radio Data MD should be set to DATA A.
>
>With the F2 Setup Menu of WSJT-X the Radio pane: Data Bits as 8, Stop bit as 1 and Handshake as NONE. PTT Method as CAT, Mode as Data/Pkt, Split operation as RIG. On the Audio pane: Soundcard both Input and Output should be USB Audio CODEC and Mono.
>
>This is my configuration.
>
>73
>
>Bob, K4TAX
>
>
>On 1/18/2019 9:53 PM, Gary Smith wrote:
>>Folks,
>>
>>I posted this on the WSJT-X reflector but
>>got no replies. Perhaps someone here has
>>the answer.
>>
>>---------------
>>
>>Using Windows 10... Joy...
>>
>>I have WSJT-X set up to use the K3s USB
>>Audio Codec, input & output. Both are
>>selected as Mono.
>>
>>The codec is selected in the computer.
>>
>>I have found no way to get the K3s to
>>transmit unless the K3s USB codec is set
>>to default device in the computer.
>>
>>If I have another soundcard/option
>>selected in the computer, the K3s will
>>indeed present transmit mode as WSJT-X
>>signals it to do, but there is no RF
>>generated from the K3s. It's Lights on,
>>nobody home. WSJT works fine but also
>>transfers any computer sound to the K3s
>>during transmit.
>>
>>If nothing is playing on the computer and
>>the codec is selected as default, I have
>>no trouble with anything WSJT-X related.
>>This is how I have had to have it working
>>for the last 10 months. However, I
>>recently discovered a youtube was playing
>>on another page and that audio was coming
>>through with my WSJT transmission. This is
>>unacceptable.
>>
>>Bottom line seems to be, I must have the
>>K3s USB codec selected as default in the
>>windows sound control panel or I cannot
>>transmit with WSJT-X.
>>
>>There must be another something I'm
>>missing but I can't seem to find it.
>>
>>Any suggestions?
>>
>>73,
>>
>>Gary
>>KA1J
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.

I use VOX for my SSB operating. Thus if I were to use it for digital modes I would need to change the settings. And then set it back for SSB. With CAT that is set in the software as I outlined. Set it and forget it.

Bob, K4TAX

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> On Jan 19, 2019, at 9:40 AM, Barry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I have a K3s and have never used CAT for PTT fuctions. I found it to hard to set up and think about. I do use VOX for keying the transmitter. I find that works very well and is mindlessly simple to set up. The only thing you need to know is to remember to turn the VOX function on and make sure you have enough audio going in to satisfy the 4 steady bars with a 5th flickering on the ALC indicator. This approach allow me to switch to differing digital software with little need to do further set ups. I suggest that those who are having problems setting up CAT for their radios give this a try and see how well it works. And BTW: I do use FT8 fairly regularly as well as RTTY and PSK31.
>
> 73,
> Barry
> K3NDM
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Bob McGraw K4TAX" <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: 1/19/2019 9:36:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.
>
>> Are you saying the K3S does not go into the transmit mode, or are you saying there is no audio?
>>
>> From the K3S CONFIG menu you should have RS232 set to USB. The K3S Menu should have MIC SEL set to Line IN. Is anything plugged into the Line In on the back of the radio? Unplug it if so. The radio Data MD should be set to DATA A.
>>
>> With the F2 Setup Menu of WSJT-X the Radio pane: Data Bits as 8, Stop bit as 1 and Handshake as NONE. PTT Method as CAT, Mode as Data/Pkt, Split operation as RIG. On the Audio pane: Soundcard both Input and Output should be USB Audio CODEC and Mono.
>>
>> This is my configuration.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>>
>>> On 1/18/2019 9:53 PM, Gary Smith wrote:
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I posted this on the WSJT-X reflector but
>>> got no replies. Perhaps someone here has
>>> the answer.
>>>
>>> ---------------
>>>
>>> Using Windows 10... Joy...
>>>
>>> I have WSJT-X set up to use the K3s USB
>>> Audio Codec, input & output. Both are
>>> selected as Mono.
>>>
>>> The codec is selected in the computer.
>>>
>>> I have found no way to get the K3s to
>>> transmit unless the K3s USB codec is set
>>> to default device in the computer.
>>>
>>> If I have another soundcard/option
>>> selected in the computer, the K3s will
>>> indeed present transmit mode as WSJT-X
>>> signals it to do, but there is no RF
>>> generated from the K3s. It's Lights on,
>>> nobody home. WSJT works fine but also
>>> transfers any computer sound to the K3s
>>> during transmit.
>>>
>>> If nothing is playing on the computer and
>>> the codec is selected as default, I have
>>> no trouble with anything WSJT-X related.
>>> This is how I have had to have it working
>>> for the last 10 months. However, I
>>> recently discovered a youtube was playing
>>> on another page and that audio was coming
>>> through with my WSJT transmission. This is
>>> unacceptable.
>>>
>>> Bottom line seems to be, I must have the
>>> K3s USB codec selected as default in the
>>> windows sound control panel or I cannot
>>> transmit with WSJT-X.
>>>
>>> There must be another something I'm
>>> missing but I can't seem to find it.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Gary
>>> KA1J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Barry LaZar

Re: K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.

Hmmmm, Bob,

I haven't looked to see how much difference there is between the two
settings; I don't use VOX for SSB. I guess I probably should have a
look, though. I hadn't thought of this issue because of the way I
operate. Good catch.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

------ Original Message ------
From: "Bob McGraw K4TAX" <[hidden email]>
To: "Barry" <[hidden email]>
Cc: [hidden email]
Sent: 1/19/2019 10:48:08 AM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Elecraft] K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s
codec is windows default.

>I use VOX for my SSB operating. Thus if I were to use it for digital modes I would need to change the settings. And then set it back for SSB. With CAT that is set in the software as I outlined. Set it and forget it.
>
>Bob, K4TAX
>
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 19, 2019, at 9:40 AM, Barry <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I have a K3s and have never used CAT for PTT fuctions. I found it to hard to set up and think about. I do use VOX for keying the transmitter. I find that works very well and is mindlessly simple to set up. The only thing you need to know is to remember to turn the VOX function on and make sure you have enough audio going in to satisfy the 4 steady bars with a 5th flickering on the ALC indicator. This approach allow me to switch to differing digital software with little need to do further set ups. I suggest that those who are having problems setting up CAT for their radios give this a try and see how well it works. And BTW: I do use FT8 fairly regularly as well as RTTY and PSK31.
>>
>> 73,
>> Barry
>> K3NDM
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Bob McGraw K4TAX" <[hidden email]>
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Sent: 1/19/2019 9:36:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.
>>
>>> Are you saying the K3S does not go into the transmit mode, or are you saying there is no audio?
>>>
>>> From the K3S CONFIG menu you should have RS232 set to USB. The K3S Menu should have MIC SEL set to Line IN. Is anything plugged into the Line In on the back of the radio? Unplug it if so. The radio Data MD should be set to DATA A.
>>>
>>> With the F2 Setup Menu of WSJT-X the Radio pane: Data Bits as 8, Stop bit as 1 and Handshake as NONE. PTT Method as CAT, Mode as Data/Pkt, Split operation as RIG. On the Audio pane: Soundcard both Input and Output should be USB Audio CODEC and Mono.
>>>
>>> This is my configuration.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Bob, K4TAX
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 1/18/2019 9:53 PM, Gary Smith wrote:
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>> I posted this on the WSJT-X reflector but
>>>> got no replies. Perhaps someone here has
>>>> the answer.
>>>>
>>>> ---------------
>>>>
>>>> Using Windows 10... Joy...
>>>>
>>>> I have WSJT-X set up to use the K3s USB
>>>> Audio Codec, input & output. Both are
>>>> selected as Mono.
>>>>
>>>> The codec is selected in the computer.
>>>>
>>>> I have found no way to get the K3s to
>>>> transmit unless the K3s USB codec is set
>>>> to default device in the computer.
>>>>
>>>> If I have another soundcard/option
>>>> selected in the computer, the K3s will
>>>> indeed present transmit mode as WSJT-X
>>>> signals it to do, but there is no RF
>>>> generated from the K3s. It's Lights on,
>>>> nobody home. WSJT works fine but also
>>>> transfers any computer sound to the K3s
>>>> during transmit.
>>>>
>>>> If nothing is playing on the computer and
>>>> the codec is selected as default, I have
>>>> no trouble with anything WSJT-X related.
>>>> This is how I have had to have it working
>>>> for the last 10 months. However, I
>>>> recently discovered a youtube was playing
>>>> on another page and that audio was coming
>>>> through with my WSJT transmission. This is
>>>> unacceptable.
>>>>
>>>> Bottom line seems to be, I must have the
>>>> K3s USB codec selected as default in the
>>>> windows sound control panel or I cannot
>>>> transmit with WSJT-X.
>>>>
>>>> There must be another something I'm
>>>> missing but I can't seem to find it.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>> KA1J
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>

Wes Stewart-2

Re: K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.

In reply to this post by Bob McGraw - K4TAX

That is why I've begged several times for a firmware change to make VOX gain
saved per mode.

I do use VOX on RTTY and SSB and with a lot of fussing with soundcard levels
have it more-or-less set so all modes use about the same VOX gain.
Unfortunately, IMHO anyway, I think VOX gain should be independent of mic gain
but it isn't.

Wes N7WS

On 1/19/2019 8:48 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:

Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.

In reply to this post by Barry LaZar

Yes CAT can be somewhat confusing IF........you are running multiple
applications at the same time. Otherwise, I use CAT for: WSJT-X,
FLDIGI, HRD/DM780, MMTTY and have zero issues with any of the
applications or levels or commands. And all were easy to configure and
are reliable. When I load and open the application, the radio follows
just as one would expect. Now that I find simple.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 1/19/2019 9:40 AM, Barry wrote:

> I have a K3s and have never used CAT for PTT fuctions. I found it to
> hard to set up and think about. I do use VOX for keying the
> transmitter. I find that works very well and is mindlessly simple to
> set up. The only thing you need to know is to remember to turn the VOX
> function on and make sure you have enough audio going in to satisfy
> the 4 steady bars with a 5th flickering on the ALC indicator. This
> approach allow me to switch to differing digital software with little
> need to do further set ups. I suggest that those who are having
> problems setting up CAT for their radios give this a try and see how
> well it works. And BTW: I do use FT8 fairly regularly as well as RTTY
> and PSK31.
>
> 73,
> Barry
> K3NDM
>

Gary Smith-2

Re: K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.

In reply to this post by Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Bob,

The K3s did go into transmit, there was no
signal being generated.

Peter, VK4JD had the correct answer to
this thing that has been eluding me. His
reply here yesterday was the solution and
involved a win 10 page I have never
encountered before. It took some looking
but I found the page in windows setup he
was thinking of & sure enough, in windows
10, there is an option for WSJT-X and
sound. He said he doesn't use WSJT-X but
he knew exactly what the problem was.
Clever fellow.

FWIW, my WSJT-X configuration is good,
it's a Windows thing...

73,

Gary
KA1J

> Are you saying the K3S does not go into the transmit mode, or are you
> saying there is no audio?
>
> From the K3S CONFIG menu you should have RS232 set to USB. The K3S
> Menu should have MIC SEL set to Line IN. Is anything plugged into
> the Line In on the back of the radio?   Unplug it if so. The radio
> Data MD should be set to DATA A.
>
> With the F2 Setup Menu of WSJT-X the Radio pane: Data Bits as 8,
> Stop bit as 1 and Handshake as NONE.   PTT Method as CAT, Mode as
> Data/Pkt, Split operation as RIG.    On the Audio pane: Soundcard
> both Input and Output should be USB Audio CODEC and Mono.
>
> This is my configuration.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> On 1/18/2019 9:53 PM, Gary Smith wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > I posted this on the WSJT-X reflector but
> > got no replies. Perhaps someone here has
> > the answer.
> >
> > ---------------
> >
> > Using Windows 10... Joy...
> >
> > I have WSJT-X set up to use the K3s USB
> > Audio Codec, input & output. Both are
> > selected as Mono.
> >
> > The codec is selected in the computer.
> >
> > I have found no way to get the K3s to
> > transmit unless the K3s USB codec is set
> > to default device in the computer.
> >
> > If I have another soundcard/option
> > selected in the computer, the K3s will
> > indeed present transmit mode as WSJT-X
> > signals it to do, but there is no RF
> > generated from the K3s. It's Lights on,
> > nobody home. WSJT works fine but also
> > transfers any computer sound to the K3s
> > during transmit.
> >
> > If nothing is playing on the computer and
> > the codec is selected as default, I have
> > no trouble with anything WSJT-X related.
> > This is how I have had to have it working
> > for the last 10 months. However, I
> > recently discovered a youtube was playing
> > on another page and that audio was coming
> > through with my WSJT transmission. This is
> > unacceptable.
> >
> > Bottom line seems to be, I must have the
> > K3s USB codec selected as default in the
> > windows sound control panel or I cannot
> > transmit with WSJT-X.
> >
> > There must be another something I'm
> > missing but I can't seem to find it.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Gary
> > KA1J
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.

In reply to this post by Gary Smith-2

From the volume mixer you can “Mute” Windows Sounds. This eliminates all those annoying notification squeals and squawks.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill

> On Jan 19, 2019, at 1:37 AM, Gary Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Peter,
>
> Absolutely brilliant! I never have seen
> this windows page or read about it, but it
> absolutely did the trick. I now have an
> alternate soundcard selected in windows
> sound control panel and have WSJT-X
> configured in App volume and device
> preferences.
>
> I have to experiment to be sure nothing
> gets out sound-wise from the computer but
> at first exposure, this looks to be dead
> on.
>
> How many others have not yet discovered
> this!
>
> 73!
>
> Gary
> KA1J
>
>
>> G'day Gary,
>>
>> This should work :
>>
>> Run WSJT-X
>>
>> Go to the system settings via the cog in the start menu.
>>
>> Click on "System (Display, sound, notifications")
>>
>> Click on "Sound"
>>
>> Scroll down to "Other sound options" and click on "App volume and
>> device preferences".
>>
>> Select WSJT-X from the list of displayed apps and select your USB
>> CODEC for both input and output.
>>
>> Note that I don't use WSJT-X but that's how it's done for everything
>> else.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Peter VK4JD
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gary Smith
>> Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2019 1:53 PM To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is
>> windows default.
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I posted this on the WSJT-X reflector but
>> got no replies. Perhaps someone here has
>> the answer.
>>
>> ---------------
>>
>> Using Windows 10... Joy...
>>
>> I have WSJT-X set up to use the K3s USB
>> Audio Codec, input & output. Both are
>> selected as Mono.
>>
>> The codec is selected in the computer.
>>
>> I have found no way to get the K3s to
>> transmit unless the K3s USB codec is set
>> to default device in the computer.
>>
>> If I have another soundcard/option
>> selected in the computer, the K3s will
>> indeed present transmit mode as WSJT-X
>> signals it to do, but there is no RF
>> generated from the K3s. It's Lights on,
>> nobody home. WSJT works fine but also
>> transfers any computer sound to the K3s
>> during transmit.
>>
>> If nothing is playing on the computer and
>> the codec is selected as default, I have
>> no trouble with anything WSJT-X related.
>> This is how I have had to have it working
>> for the last 10 months. However, I
>> recently discovered a youtube was playing
>> on another page and that audio was coming
>> through with my WSJT transmission. This is
>> unacceptable.
>>
>> Bottom line seems to be, I must have the
>> K3s USB codec selected as default in the
>> windows sound control panel or I cannot
>> transmit with WSJT-X.
>>
>> There must be another something I'm
>> missing but I can't seem to find it.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Gary
>> KA1J
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Gary Smith-2

Re: K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.

Thanks Bill,

I always turn off windows sounds, they
bother me when I'm concentrating on
something. This issue deals with the
stereo/mono audio as from youtube or some
web page with streaming music/sounds that
happened to be running. I couldn't hear
the music/talk/noise from the computer and
that got transmitted when I would transmit
with WSJT-X, maybe with AFSK as well.

I always hear people's audio, words on
WSJT, I must have been doing that too, I
just couldn't hear it as I use a bluetooth
dongle for listening to the computer &
pull the dongle when I'm not listening to
it.

I have a feeling this is a very common
issue and very few people know about this
windows setting which just made all the
difference with WSJT-X, 20+ years of using
windows and this was the first I saw that
page.

Gary
KA1J

> From the volume mixer you can "Mute" Windows Sounds. This
> eliminates all those annoying notification squeals and squawks.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
> > On Jan 19, 2019, at 1:37 AM, Gary Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Peter,
> >
> > Absolutely brilliant! I never have seen
> > this windows page or read about it, but it
> > absolutely did the trick. I now have an
> > alternate soundcard selected in windows
> > sound control panel and have WSJT-X
> > configured in App volume and device
> > preferences.
> >
> > I have to experiment to be sure nothing
> > gets out sound-wise from the computer but
> > at first exposure, this looks to be dead
> > on.
> >
> > How many others have not yet discovered
> > this!
> >
> > 73!
> >
> > Gary
> > KA1J
> >
> >
> >> G'day Gary,
> >>
> >> This should work :
> >>
> >> Run WSJT-X
> >>
> >> Go to the system settings via the cog in the start menu.
> >>
> >> Click on "System (Display, sound, notifications")
> >>
> >> Click on "Sound"
> >>
> >> Scroll down to "Other sound options" and click on "App volume and
> >> device preferences".
> >>
> >> Select WSJT-X from the list of displayed apps and select your USB
> >> CODEC for both input and output.
> >>
> >> Note that I don't use WSJT-X but that's how it's done for
> >> everything else.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Peter VK4JD
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [hidden email]
> >> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gary Smith
> >> Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2019 1:53 PM To:
> >> [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] K3s can only transmit
> >> wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.
> >>
> >> Folks,
> >>
> >> I posted this on the WSJT-X reflector but
> >> got no replies. Perhaps someone here has
> >> the answer.
> >>
> >> ---------------
> >>
> >> Using Windows 10... Joy...
> >>
> >> I have WSJT-X set up to use the K3s USB
> >> Audio Codec, input & output. Both are
> >> selected as Mono.
> >>
> >> The codec is selected in the computer.
> >>
> >> I have found no way to get the K3s to
> >> transmit unless the K3s USB codec is set
> >> to default device in the computer.
> >>
> >> If I have another soundcard/option
> >> selected in the computer, the K3s will
> >> indeed present transmit mode as WSJT-X
> >> signals it to do, but there is no RF
> >> generated from the K3s. It's Lights on,
> >> nobody home. WSJT works fine but also
> >> transfers any computer sound to the K3s
> >> during transmit.
> >>
> >> If nothing is playing on the computer and
> >> the codec is selected as default, I have
> >> no trouble with anything WSJT-X related.
> >> This is how I have had to have it working
> >> for the last 10 months. However, I
> >> recently discovered a youtube was playing
> >> on another page and that audio was coming
> >> through with my WSJT transmission. This is
> >> unacceptable.
> >>
> >> Bottom line seems to be, I must have the
> >> K3s USB codec selected as default in the
> >> windows sound control panel or I cannot
> >> transmit with WSJT-X.
> >>
> >> There must be another something I'm
> >> missing but I can't seem to find it.
> >>
> >> Any suggestions?
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Gary
> >> KA1J
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.

This type of discussion makes me wonder if folks are feeding audio
direct from the computer to the Line IN on the rear or to the MIC
input. If they are using an external soundcard, i.e. Signalink or such,
then I can understand Windows sounds being heard. Not good.

If they are using the USB mode {and not a DATA mode, with the Menu item
MIC + LINE set to ON, thus anything picked up by the mike is also
transmitted along with WSJT-X data.

It would do well to carefully listen to your MON with headphones to see
what exactly is being transmitted. Correctly configured, only the
WSJT-X data is transmitted......and as it should be.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 1/19/2019 9:07 PM, Gary Smith wrote:

> Thanks Bill,
>
> I always turn off windows sounds, they
> bother me when I'm concentrating on
> something. This issue deals with the
> stereo/mono audio as from youtube or some
> web page with streaming music/sounds that
> happened to be running. I couldn't hear
> the music/talk/noise from the computer and
> that got transmitted when I would transmit
> with WSJT-X, maybe with AFSK as well.
>
> I always hear people's audio, words on
> WSJT, I must have been doing that too, I
> just couldn't hear it as I use a bluetooth
> dongle for listening to the computer &
> pull the dongle when I'm not listening to
> it.
>
> I have a feeling this is a very common
> issue and very few people know about this
> windows setting which just made all the
> difference with WSJT-X, 20+ years of using
> windows and this was the first I saw that
> page.
>
> Gary
> KA1J
>
>> From the volume mixer you can "Mute" Windows Sounds. This
>> eliminates all those annoying notification squeals and squawks.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 19, 2019, at 1:37 AM, Gary Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Peter,
>>>
>>> Absolutely brilliant! I never have seen
>>> this windows page or read about it, but it
>>> absolutely did the trick. I now have an
>>> alternate soundcard selected in windows
>>> sound control panel and have WSJT-X
>>> configured in App volume and device
>>> preferences.
>>>
>>> I have to experiment to be sure nothing
>>> gets out sound-wise from the computer but
>>> at first exposure, this looks to be dead
>>> on.
>>>
>>> How many others have not yet discovered
>>> this!
>>>
>>> 73!
>>>
>>> Gary
>>> KA1J
>>>
>>>
>>>> G'day Gary,
>>>>
>>>> This should work :
>>>>
>>>> Run WSJT-X
>>>>
>>>> Go to the system settings via the cog in the start menu.
>>>>
>>>> Click on "System (Display, sound, notifications")
>>>>
>>>> Click on "Sound"
>>>>
>>>> Scroll down to "Other sound options" and click on "App volume and
>>>> device preferences".
>>>>
>>>> Select WSJT-X from the list of displayed apps and select your USB
>>>> CODEC for both input and output.
>>>>
>>>> Note that I don't use WSJT-X but that's how it's done for
>>>> everything else.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Peter VK4JD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [hidden email]
>>>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gary Smith
>>>> Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2019 1:53 PM To:
>>>> [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] K3s can only transmit
>>>> wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.
>>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>> I posted this on the WSJT-X reflector but
>>>> got no replies. Perhaps someone here has
>>>> the answer.
>>>>
>>>> ---------------
>>>>
>>>> Using Windows 10... Joy...
>>>>
>>>> I have WSJT-X set up to use the K3s USB
>>>> Audio Codec, input & output. Both are
>>>> selected as Mono.
>>>>
>>>> The codec is selected in the computer.
>>>>
>>>> I have found no way to get the K3s to
>>>> transmit unless the K3s USB codec is set
>>>> to default device in the computer.
>>>>
>>>> If I have another soundcard/option
>>>> selected in the computer, the K3s will
>>>> indeed present transmit mode as WSJT-X
>>>> signals it to do, but there is no RF
>>>> generated from the K3s. It's Lights on,
>>>> nobody home. WSJT works fine but also
>>>> transfers any computer sound to the K3s
>>>> during transmit.
>>>>
>>>> If nothing is playing on the computer and
>>>> the codec is selected as default, I have
>>>> no trouble with anything WSJT-X related.
>>>> This is how I have had to have it working
>>>> for the last 10 months. However, I
>>>> recently discovered a youtube was playing
>>>> on another page and that audio was coming
>>>> through with my WSJT transmission. This is
>>>> unacceptable.
>>>>
>>>> Bottom line seems to be, I must have the
>>>> K3s USB codec selected as default in the
>>>> windows sound control panel or I cannot
>>>> transmit with WSJT-X.
>>>>
>>>> There must be another something I'm
>>>> missing but I can't seem to find it.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>> KA1J
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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Gary Smith-2

Re: K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.

In reply to this post by Gary Smith-2

Folks, this should be my final post here
on this but I think the information
applies to any of us who use the K3s Codec
with WSJT-X, maybe AFSK too, I haven't
researched that possibility.

A brief recap to the issue at hand: The
only way I could get WSJT-X to get the K3S
to transmit was if I selected the K3s
codec as default in windows. Doing so
transmitted computer/internet generated
sounds along with the WSJT-X signal. -
Doing the procedure below will resolve
this issue. Thanks to Peter, VK4JD who
does not use WSJT-X for pointing this
obscure setting out to me.

How difficult my signal was, and maybe
yours unknowingly to you, has to be to
decode..

Peter's suggestion below is perfect. I
wanted to find out the easiest way to
demonstrate this windows "feature". Here
is a URL that describes how to find this
page in windows 10. Not sure about earlier
versions of windows, I only have 10 now.

https://tinyurl.com/y7dc57vm

Now... Something I discovered: you must
have WSJT-X running to see the option in
this windows page!

When I went to the page, WSJT-X was not
showing and then I realized I was not
running it. I use Win4K3Suite so I started
that and then started WSJT-X. Moments
later the WSJT-X sound ap was showing.
Here is what it looks like in win 10:

http://doctorgary.net/ap-vol-dev-pref.jpg

When Peter's suggestion below led me to
this windows page, the WSJT-X output and
input were the windows default output and
input. I selected the USB codec and that
is what immediately stopped the K3s from
sending out superfluous audio with my WSJT
signal.

To be sure, both the WSJT-X and audio from
the computer were being sent out
simultaneously. Not windows sounds, those
have been off from day 1. I'm talking
about any sound from any web page or audio
ap that may be running without you hearing
it. In this case that caused me issues
with WSJT-X and the K3s, it was a youtube
video that was playing & I didn't know it.

I am posting this information to the
WSJT-X list but since it dealt with the
K3s, this answer also belongs here.
Perhaps it is the same with any external
card you use, as in the K3 with external
digital soundcard?

Hope you check your windows setting, you
might be surprised.

73,

Gary
KA1J

> Peter,
>
> Absolutely brilliant! I never have seen
> this windows page or read about it, but it
> absolutely did the trick. I now have an
> alternate soundcard selected in windows
> sound control panel and have WSJT-X
> configured in App volume and device
> preferences.
>
> I have to experiment to be sure nothing
> gets out sound-wise from the computer but
> at first exposure, this looks to be dead
> on.
>
> How many others have not yet discovered
> this!
>
> 73!
>
> Gary
> KA1J
>
>
> > G'day Gary,
> >
> > This should work :
> >
> > Run WSJT-X
> >
> > Go to the system settings via the cog in the start menu.
> >
> > Click on "System (Display, sound, notifications")
> >
> > Click on "Sound"
> >
> > Scroll down to "Other sound options" and click on "App volume and
> > device preferences".
> >
> > Select WSJT-X from the list of displayed apps and select your USB
> > CODEC for both input and output.
> >
> > Note that I don't use WSJT-X but that's how it's done for everything
> > else.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Peter VK4JD
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email]
> > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gary Smith
> > Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2019 1:53 PM To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: [Elecraft] K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is
> > windows default.
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > I posted this on the WSJT-X reflector but
> > got no replies. Perhaps someone here has
> > the answer.
> >
> > ---------------
> >
> > Using Windows 10... Joy...
> >
> > I have WSJT-X set up to use the K3s USB
> > Audio Codec, input & output. Both are
> > selected as Mono.
> >
> > The codec is selected in the computer.
> >
> > I have found no way to get the K3s to
> > transmit unless the K3s USB codec is set
> > to default device in the computer.
> >
> > If I have another soundcard/option
> > selected in the computer, the K3s will
> > indeed present transmit mode as WSJT-X
> > signals it to do, but there is no RF
> > generated from the K3s. It's Lights on,
> > nobody home. WSJT works fine but also
> > transfers any computer sound to the K3s
> > during transmit.
> >
> > If nothing is playing on the computer and
> > the codec is selected as default, I have
> > no trouble with anything WSJT-X related.
> > This is how I have had to have it working
> > for the last 10 months. However, I
> > recently discovered a youtube was playing
> > on another page and that audio was coming
> > through with my WSJT transmission. This is
> > unacceptable.
> >
> > Bottom line seems to be, I must have the
> > K3s USB codec selected as default in the
> > windows sound control panel or I cannot
> > transmit with WSJT-X.
> >
> > There must be another something I'm
> > missing but I can't seem to find it.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Gary
> > KA1J
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________
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Re: K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.

So what happens if you don't run Win4K3Suite? I run WSJT-X and nothing
else and have NO issues with audio, control, or Windows sound. I find
that WSJT-X handles everything that is needed, radio control, audio
control, and logging.

Conclusion: More software applications running = more issues and
problems to resolve.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 1/19/2019 9:37 PM, Gary Smith wrote:

> Folks, this should be my final post here
> on this but I think the information
> applies to any of us who use the K3s Codec
> with WSJT-X, maybe AFSK too, I haven't
> researched that possibility.
>
> A brief recap to the issue at hand: The
> only way I could get WSJT-X to get the K3S
> to transmit was if I selected the K3s
> codec as default in windows. Doing so
> transmitted computer/internet generated
> sounds along with the WSJT-X signal. -
> Doing the procedure below will resolve
> this issue. Thanks to Peter, VK4JD who
> does not use WSJT-X for pointing this
> obscure setting out to me.
>
> How difficult my signal was, and maybe
> yours unknowingly to you, has to be to
> decode..
>
> Peter's suggestion below is perfect. I
> wanted to find out the easiest way to
> demonstrate this windows "feature". Here
> is a URL that describes how to find this
> page in windows 10. Not sure about earlier
> versions of windows, I only have 10 now.
>
> https://tinyurl.com/y7dc57vm
>
> Now... Something I discovered: you must
> have WSJT-X running to see the option in
> this windows page!
>
> When I went to the page, WSJT-X was not
> showing and then I realized I was not
> running it. I use Win4K3Suite so I started
> that and then started WSJT-X. Moments
> later the WSJT-X sound ap was showing.
> Here is what it looks like in win 10:
>
> http://doctorgary.net/ap-vol-dev-pref.jpg
>
> When Peter's suggestion below led me to
> this windows page, the WSJT-X output and
> input were the windows default output and
> input. I selected the USB codec and that
> is what immediately stopped the K3s from
> sending out superfluous audio with my WSJT
> signal.
>
> To be sure, both the WSJT-X and audio from
> the computer were being sent out
> simultaneously. Not windows sounds, those
> have been off from day 1. I'm talking
> about any sound from any web page or audio
> ap that may be running without you hearing
> it. In this case that caused me issues
> with WSJT-X and the K3s, it was a youtube
> video that was playing & I didn't know it.
>
> I am posting this information to the
> WSJT-X list but since it dealt with the
> K3s, this answer also belongs here.
> Perhaps it is the same with any external
> card you use, as in the K3 with external
> digital soundcard?
>
> Hope you check your windows setting, you
> might be surprised.
>
> 73,
>
> Gary
> KA1J
>
>> Peter,
>>
>> Absolutely brilliant! I never have seen
>> this windows page or read about it, but it
>> absolutely did the trick. I now have an
>> alternate soundcard selected in windows
>> sound control panel and have WSJT-X
>> configured in App volume and device
>> preferences.
>>
>> I have to experiment to be sure nothing
>> gets out sound-wise from the computer but
>> at first exposure, this looks to be dead
>> on.
>>
>> How many others have not yet discovered
>> this!
>>
>> 73!
>>
>> Gary
>> KA1J
>>
>>
>>> G'day Gary,
>>>
>>> This should work :
>>>
>>> Run WSJT-X
>>>
>>> Go to the system settings via the cog in the start menu.
>>>
>>> Click on "System (Display, sound, notifications")
>>>
>>> Click on "Sound"
>>>
>>> Scroll down to "Other sound options" and click on "App volume and
>>> device preferences".
>>>
>>> Select WSJT-X from the list of displayed apps and select your USB
>>> CODEC for both input and output.
>>>
>>> Note that I don't use WSJT-X but that's how it's done for everything
>>> else.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Peter VK4JD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [hidden email]
>>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gary Smith
>>> Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2019 1:53 PM To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is
>>> windows default.
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I posted this on the WSJT-X reflector but
>>> got no replies. Perhaps someone here has
>>> the answer.
>>>
>>> ---------------
>>>
>>> Using Windows 10... Joy...
>>>
>>> I have WSJT-X set up to use the K3s USB
>>> Audio Codec, input & output. Both are
>>> selected as Mono.
>>>
>>> The codec is selected in the computer.
>>>
>>> I have found no way to get the K3s to
>>> transmit unless the K3s USB codec is set
>>> to default device in the computer.
>>>
>>> If I have another soundcard/option
>>> selected in the computer, the K3s will
>>> indeed present transmit mode as WSJT-X
>>> signals it to do, but there is no RF
>>> generated from the K3s. It's Lights on,
>>> nobody home. WSJT works fine but also
>>> transfers any computer sound to the K3s
>>> during transmit.
>>>
>>> If nothing is playing on the computer and
>>> the codec is selected as default, I have
>>> no trouble with anything WSJT-X related.
>>> This is how I have had to have it working
>>> for the last 10 months. However, I
>>> recently discovered a youtube was playing
>>> on another page and that audio was coming
>>> through with my WSJT transmission. This is
>>> unacceptable.
>>>
>>> Bottom line seems to be, I must have the
>>> K3s USB codec selected as default in the
>>> windows sound control panel or I cannot
>>> transmit with WSJT-X.
>>>
>>> There must be another something I'm
>>> missing but I can't seem to find it.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Gary
>>> KA1J
>>>
>>>
>>>
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ANDY DURBIN

K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.

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"Hope you check your windows setting, you might be surprised."

No surprises here. I have never had my rig CODEC as the default sound playback device. I don't have Windows 10 but, in every earlier version I have used, it is easy to ensure that the rig CODEC is not the default playback device. Simply right click the speaker icon in the system tray and select playback devices. You will see a new "Sound" window with all playback devices listed. One will be shown as the default device. Ensure the default device is not your rig CODEC. This action does not require WSJT-X, or any other application, to be running since the selection of the default sound device is not application specific.

If, after you right click the speaker icon, you select volume mixer you should then see "Device" on the left side of the mixer window. Click the device menu and select the rig CODEC. You will see all the apps that are connected to that CODEC as long as they are running and have recently produced a sound output.

The assignment of the rig CODEC to WSJT-X is done simply in the WSJT-X file/settings/audio menu. As with all digital mode applications, selection of the correct device is easier if the rig CODEC has been assigned a meaningful name. Mine is called "TS-590 RX" and "TS-590 TX". The name can be changed by speaker icon right click, playback devices, select the rig CODEC then properties, edit name in name field.

Perhaps someone would confirm that all these steps are also applicable in Win 10.

Andy, k3wyc

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K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.

Hi Andy,

In Win10 it's a two step procedure to get to "playback devices". First
right click on the speaker icon and select "Open sound settings".
Then click on "Sound Control Panel" on the right side of the Sound window.

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Re: K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.

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This all works with Windows 10 Pro. I've not used the Home edition.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 1/20/2019 6:14 AM, Andy Durbin wrote:

> "Hope you check your windows setting, you might be surprised."
>
> No surprises here. I have never had my rig CODEC as the default sound playback device. I don't have Windows 10 but, in every earlier version I have used, it is easy to ensure that the rig CODEC is not the default playback device. Simply right click the speaker icon in the system tray and select playback devices. You will see a new "Sound" window with all playback devices listed. One will be shown as the default device. Ensure the default device is not your rig CODEC. This action does not require WSJT-X, or any other application, to be running since the selection of the default sound device is not application specific.
>
> If, after you right click the speaker icon, you select volume mixer you should then see "Device" on the left side of the mixer window. Click the device menu and select the rig CODEC. You will see all the apps that are connected to that CODEC as long as they are running and have recently produced a sound output.
>
> The assignment of the rig CODEC to WSJT-X is done simply in the WSJT-X file/settings/audio menu. As with all digital mode applications, selection of the correct device is easier if the rig CODEC has been assigned a meaningful name. Mine is called "TS-590 RX" and "TS-590 TX". The name can be changed by speaker icon right click, playback devices, select the rig CODEC then properties, edit name in name field.
>
> Perhaps someone would confirm that all these steps are also applicable in Win 10.
>
> Andy, k3wyc
>
>
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Re: K3s can only transmit wsjt if the K3s codec is windows default.

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Perhaps the point of my original post has
been missed.

The only way I could get RF out of the K3s
was to assign the K3s codec as my default
in the sound settings. If I did not do
this in the windows sound control panel,
the K3s would go into transmit mode with
WSJT-x but zero output.

Doing this allowed computer sounds to be
transmitted with WSJT-X, maybe with AFSK.

Yes, in the WSJT-X software I always had
the K3s codec checked.

Until I made this change in the windows
app volume and device properties page 2
days ago, that was the only way I could
transmit with WSJT-X.

I cannot be the only person with this
issue.

This is not a trivial issue, we all want
our signals to be clean and for months I
had no idea I was occasionally
transmitting garbage with my K3s. I'm sure
others here are doing the same.

73,

Gary
KA1J

> "Hope you check your windows setting, you might be surprised."
>
> No surprises here. I have never had my rig CODEC as the default sound
> playback device. I don't have Windows 10 but, in every earlier
> version I have used, it is easy to ensure that the rig CODEC is not
> the default playback device. Simply right click the speaker icon in
> the system tray and select playback devices. You will see a new
> "Sound" window with all playback devices listed. One will be shown as
> the default device. Ensure the default device is not your rig CODEC.
> This action does not require WSJT-X, or any other application, to be
> running since the selection of the default sound device is not
> application specific.
>
> If, after you right click the speaker icon, you select volume mixer
> you should then see "Device" on the left side of the mixer window.
> Click the device menu and select the rig CODEC. You will see all the
> apps that are connected to that CODEC as long as they are running and
> have recently produced a sound output.
>
> The assignment of the rig CODEC to WSJT-X is done simply in the WSJT-X
> file/settings/audio menu. As with all digital mode applications,
> selection of the correct device is easier if the rig CODEC has been
> assigned a meaningful name. Mine is called "TS-590 RX" and "TS-590
> TX". The name can be changed by speaker icon right click, playback
> devices, select the rig CODEC then properties, edit name in name
> field.
>
> Perhaps someone would confirm that all these steps are also applicable
> in Win 10.
>
> Andy, k3wyc
>
>
>
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