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Edward A. Dauer

K4 Kit

Here’s the vexing problem. The web site says there will be a kit version, but the availability date hasn’t been set yet. The deposit options are therefore apparently for the factory-built versions. What’s the solution for the tension between “I want one now” and “I want to build the kit”? Just go to sleep and wait?

. . . to sleep, perchance to dream, aye there’s the rub . . .

Ted, KN1CBR
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Re: K4 Kit

Edward A. Dauer wrote
> Here’s the vexing problem. The web site says there will be a kit version,
> but the availability date hasn’t been set yet. The deposit options are
> therefore apparently for the factory-built versions. What’s the solution
> for the tension between “I want one now” and “I want to build the kit”?
> Just go to sleep and wait?

The KPA1500 kit still isn’t available. I suspect the wait for a kit version
of the K4 will be a long one.

Lou, W0FK

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Don Wilhelm

Re: K4 Kit

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Ted,

The kit assembly manual information will be gleaned from the experience
gained from the build of the first production models.
That was true for the K3 and KX3 - yes it is unlike the experience with
the K2, K1 and KX1 which were not available as factory asssembled (kit
only), but they held a Field Test with a number of builders which
resulted in many changes to the assembly manual. That is not the same
as the situation today.
The kit version will available only after a substantial number of
factory assembled units have shipped. My wild guess it will be 2 to 3
months later than the ship of the first factory assembled units.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/17/2019 9:41 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
> Here’s the vexing problem. The web site says there will be a kit version, but the availability date hasn’t been set yet. The deposit options are therefore apparently for the factory-built versions. What’s the solution for the tension between “I want one now” and “I want to build the kit”? Just go to sleep and wait?
>
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k4vd

Re: K4 Kit

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You could buy the factory unit, take it apart and put it back together. You
get it faster, you can confirm it works before you take it apart so you
eliminate some of the anxiety when you rebuild it as a kit knowing it
worked before you tore it to pieces.

Or maybe not.

73,
Kev N4TT

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 9:41 AM Dauer, Edward <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Here’s the vexing problem. The web site says there will be a kit version,
> but the availability date hasn’t been set yet. The deposit options are
> therefore apparently for the factory-built versions. What’s the solution
> for the tension between “I want one now” and “I want to build the kit”?
> Just go to sleep and wait?
>
> . . . to sleep, perchance to dream, aye there’s the rub . . .
>
> Ted, KN1CBR
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Edward A. Dauer

Re: K4 Kit

That’s a great idea. And the parts left over after I put it back together again I can keep as spares at no extra cost. Neat!

Ted, KN1CBR

From: "Kevin, N4TT" <[hidden email]>
Date: Friday, May 17, 2019 at 9:32 AM
To: "Dauer, Edward" <[hidden email]>
Cc: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Kit

You could buy the factory unit, take it apart and put it back together. You get it faster, you can confirm it works before you take it apart so you eliminate some of the anxiety when you rebuild it as a kit knowing it worked before you tore it to pieces.

Or maybe not.

73,
Kev N4TT

On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 9:41 AM Dauer, Edward <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
Here’s the vexing problem. The web site says there will be a kit version, but the availability date hasn’t been set yet. The deposit options are therefore apparently for the factory-built versions. What’s the solution for the tension between “I want one now” and “I want to build the kit”? Just go to sleep and wait?

. . . to sleep, perchance to dream, aye there’s the rub . . .

Ted, KN1CBR
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Doug Person-5

USB to Serial on MacOS

I know there are a lot of guys that are very good at macs here. I'm
stuck. I'm trying to get a USB to SERIAL adapter to work on a mac. I've
tried 4. None work. I look at System Information but I honestly can't
tell if there's a serial port adapter there or not or if it even works.
I did install Prolific drivers. OS is 10.13.6.

Thanks for any help.

Doug -- KJ0F

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Ken Winterling

Re: USB to Serial on MacOS

Doug,I don't have a Mac but I have had problems with Prolific adapters on PCs. I switched to FTDI and never have a problem. Ken WA2LBI LG G6 ------ Original message------From: Doug PersonDate: Fri, May 17, 2019 13:28To: [hidden email];Cc: Subject:[Elecraft] USB to Serial on MacOSI know there are a lot of guys that are very good at macs here. I'm
stuck. I'm trying to get a USB to SERIAL adapter to work on a mac. I've
tried 4. None work. I look at System Information but I honestly can't
tell if there's a serial port adapter there or not or if it even works.
I did install Prolific drivers. OS is 10.13.6.

Thanks for any help.

Doug -- KJ0F

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AL7CR

Re: USB to Serial on MacOS

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I have been down this route on numerous Macs under many versions of OS X. The absolute "gold standard" is the Tripp-Lite Keyspan USA-19HS. They are expensive but they just work on OS X. I keep them in stock for projects. Available on Amazon.

AL7CR

On Fri, May 17, 2019, at 10:28 AM, Doug Person wrote:

> I know there are a lot of guys that are very good at macs here. I'm
> stuck. I'm trying to get a USB to SERIAL adapter to work on a mac. I've
> tried 4. None work. I look at System Information but I honestly can't
> tell if there's a serial port adapter there or not or if it even works.
> I did install Prolific drivers. OS is 10.13.6.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Doug -- KJ0F
>
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Tox

Re: USB to Serial on MacOS

This.

I have spent enough time fightingg "prolific" cables that proved to have
fake chips that it is far cheaper to just buy the keyspan unit, install the
ftdi driver, and have it Just Work (modulo variability in Port naming).

Chuck the prolifics, get a genuine ftdi (the keyspan unit is a great
choice). Save the grief.

Scott
AD6YT

On Fri, May 17, 2019, 11:12 AM AL7CR <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I have been down this route on numerous Macs under many versions of OS X.
> The absolute "gold standard" is the Tripp-Lite Keyspan USA-19HS. They are
> expensive but they just work on OS X. I keep them in stock for projects.
> Available on Amazon.
>
> AL7CR
>
> On Fri, May 17, 2019, at 10:28 AM, Doug Person wrote:
> > I know there are a lot of guys that are very good at macs here. I'm
> > stuck. I'm trying to get a USB to SERIAL adapter to work on a mac. I've
> > tried 4. None work. I look at System Information but I honestly can't
> > tell if there's a serial port adapter there or not or if it even works.
> > I did install Prolific drivers. OS is 10.13.6.
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> >
> > Doug -- KJ0F
> >
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Re: USB to Serial on MacOS

All of the Elecraft USB/serial adapters I have are also FTDI and work flawlessly on my MacBook Pro.

Michael Blake
K9JRI

> On May 17, 2019, at 3:07 PM, Tox <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> This.
>
> I have spent enough time fightingg "prolific" cables that proved to have
> fake chips that it is far cheaper to just buy the keyspan unit, install the
> ftdi driver, and have it Just Work (modulo variability in Port naming).
>
> Chuck the prolifics, get a genuine ftdi (the keyspan unit is a great
> choice). Save the grief.
>
> Scott
> AD6YT
>
> On Fri, May 17, 2019, 11:12 AM AL7CR <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I have been down this route on numerous Macs under many versions of OS X.
>> The absolute "gold standard" is the Tripp-Lite Keyspan USA-19HS. They are
>> expensive but they just work on OS X. I keep them in stock for projects.
>> Available on Amazon.
>>
>> AL7CR
>>
>> On Fri, May 17, 2019, at 10:28 AM, Doug Person wrote:
>>> I know there are a lot of guys that are very good at macs here. I'm
>>> stuck. I'm trying to get a USB to SERIAL adapter to work on a mac. I've
>>> tried 4. None work. I look at System Information but I honestly can't
>>> tell if there's a serial port adapter there or not or if it even works.
>>> I did install Prolific drivers. OS is 10.13.6.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help.
>>>
>>> Doug -- KJ0F
>>>
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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: USB to Serial on MacOS

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The cables from R T Systems are certainly reliable and affordable as
well. Plus if you have a question, you can call them and they will talk
you through the issue.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 5/17/2019 2:07 PM, Tox wrote:

> This.
>
> I have spent enough time fightingg "prolific" cables that proved to have
> fake chips that it is far cheaper to just buy the keyspan unit, install the
> ftdi driver, and have it Just Work (modulo variability in Port naming).
>
> Chuck the prolifics, get a genuine ftdi (the keyspan unit is a great
> choice). Save the grief.
>
> Scott
> AD6YT
>

Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: USB to Serial on MacOS

OK thanks. Didn't know that. I do find that it works extremely well
with any Windows based system I've use since XP............

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 5/17/2019 3:35 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:

> An RT Systems cable did not work with my Mac. It only works with their software. I returned it and got a different FTDI cable.
>
> RT Systems seem to provide Mac drivers now, but I’d still stay away. RT Systems has programmed their FTDI chip to give a different ID, so other drivers won’t work with it. Mac OS already includes drivers for FTDI chips.
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
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>
>> On May 17, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> The cables from R T Systems are certainly reliable and affordable as well. Plus if you have a question, you can call them and they will talk you through the issue.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>> On 5/17/2019 2:07 PM, Tox wrote:
>>> This.
>>>
>>> I have spent enough time fightingg "prolific" cables that proved to have
>>> fake chips that it is far cheaper to just buy the keyspan unit, install the
>>> ftdi driver, and have it Just Work (modulo variability in Port naming).
>>>
>>> Chuck the prolifics, get a genuine ftdi (the keyspan unit is a great
>>> choice). Save the grief.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>> AD6YT
>>>
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