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K4 Noise Blanking & Sensitivity - Again

stengrevics
Hi Wayne & Eric,

I’ve asked this question twice already with no answer.  Perhaps it’s the way I phrased it.  So, let me ask it a different way:

1.  Noise Blanking:  On the website, under K4 FAQ - Performance Differences, it says "In a direct-sampling radio like the K4, the DSP can “see” a wider bandwidth in its signal chain, allowing it to provide higher-performance noise reduction, noise blanking…”  Can you quantify the improvement of the K4 over the K3S regarding noise reduction and noise blanking?

2.  Sensitivity:  Rob Sherwood’s transceiver test data shows the following sensitivity for the K3S (in microvolts):

0.27
0.20b <http://www.sherweng.com/table.html#key>
0.0810 <http://www.sherweng.com/table.html#key>

b  Built-in preamp actuated
10   10 meter data, preamp ON

How does the K4 compare with the K3S on this measure of sensitivity?  


Thanks in advance.

John
WA1EAZ





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Re: K4 Noise Blanking & Sensitivity - Again

wayne burdick
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> On May 29, 2019, at 4:15 AM, John Stengrevics <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> 1.  Noise Blanking:  On the website, under K4 FAQ - Performance Differences, it says "In a direct-sampling radio like the K4, the DSP can “see” a wider bandwidth in its signal chain, allowing it to provide higher-performance noise reduction, noise blanking…”  Can you quantify the improvement of the K4 over the K3S regarding noise reduction and noise blanking?

This is in-progress DSP code, so full characterization is pending. For example, there will be a completely new NR algorithm available.


> 2.  Sensitivity....

The K4 will be similar to the K3 in sensitivity. Again, we're still finalizing hardware and will provide full specs once available.

Wayne

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Re: K4 Noise Blanking & Sensitivity - Again

wayne burdick
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Yes. Historically a significant percentage of our K2 and K3 buyers chose the QRP model. In some cases operators use the radio as an IF for transverters, etc.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



> On May 29, 2019, at 4:15 AM, John Stengrevics <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Wayne & Eric,
>
> I’ve asked this question twice already with no answer.  Perhaps it’s the way I phrased it.  So, let me ask it a different way:
>
> 1.  Noise Blanking:  On the website, under K4 FAQ - Performance Differences, it says "In a direct-sampling radio like the K4, the DSP can “see” a wider bandwidth in its signal chain, allowing it to provide higher-performance noise reduction, noise blanking…”  Can you quantify the improvement of the K4 over the K3S regarding noise reduction and noise blanking?
>
> 2.  Sensitivity:  Rob Sherwood’s transceiver test data shows the following sensitivity for the K3S (in microvolts):
>
> 0.27
> 0.20b <http://www.sherweng.com/table.html#key>
> 0.0810 <http://www.sherweng.com/table.html#key>
>
> b  Built-in preamp actuated
> 10   10 meter data, preamp ON
>
> How does the K4 compare with the K3S on this measure of sensitivity?  
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> John
> WA1EAZ
>
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>
> Sensitivity
> (uV)
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> Sensitivity
> (uV)
> Sensitivity
> (uV)
>
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Re: K4 Noise Blanking & Sensitivity - Again

stengrevics
Hi Wayne,

I think you answered someone else’s question!?

John
WA1EAZ

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> On May 29, 2019, at 11:47 AM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Yes. Historically a significant percentage of our K2 and K3 buyers chose the QRP model. In some cases operators use the radio as an IF for transverters, etc.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
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>> On May 29, 2019, at 4:15 AM, John Stengrevics <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Wayne & Eric,
>>
>> I’ve asked this question twice already with no answer.  Perhaps it’s the way I phrased it.  So, let me ask it a different way:
>>
>> 1.  Noise Blanking:  On the website, under K4 FAQ - Performance Differences, it says "In a direct-sampling radio like the K4, the DSP can “see” a wider bandwidth in its signal chain, allowing it to provide higher-performance noise reduction, noise blanking…”  Can you quantify the improvement of the K4 over the K3S regarding noise reduction and noise blanking?
>>
>> 2.  Sensitivity:  Rob Sherwood’s transceiver test data shows the following sensitivity for the K3S (in microvolts):
>>
>> 0.27
>> 0.20b <http://www.sherweng.com/table.html#key>
>> 0.0810 <http://www.sherweng.com/table.html#key>
>>
>> b  Built-in preamp actuated
>> 10   10 meter data, preamp ON
>>
>> How does the K4 compare with the K3S on this measure of sensitivity?  
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> John
>> WA1EAZ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sensitivity
>> (uV)
>>
>> Sensitivity
>> (uV)
>> Sensitivity
>> (uV)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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