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Bill Levy

K4 in production

What I want to see on this list is when the K4 goes into production.
Everything else is immaterial. That is what I am looking for. The Eureka
announcement.

I can not tell you how many things, parts, drugs, cars, boats,planes,
lumber,steel, food, travel are impacted by the pandemic that this is little
stuff and the K3 still soldiers on waiting for it's retirement, hopefully
sooner than later.
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Joe DeVincentis

Re: K4 in production

Eric did a Zoom meeting with the East Coast Ham Operators (ECHO) group on 7/14 (Tuesday).

It was nice to see and hear some of the history of Elecraft.

The question of K4 production was asked. He was very forthright. They have adjusted their manufacturing process for employee safety. Good to hear.

Eric said that the hold up right now is parts. Unfortunately they can't control the big manufacturers. It does sound like production will be soon. Personally, I can't wait. The more I hear about the radio, the more excited I get. I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas to get here.

IIRC, ECHO plans to post the video on their youtube channel soon (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP-gkJVxKm1iS43RwYsaKuA <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP-gkJVxKm1iS43RwYsaKuA>)

73,
Joe, KO8V

> On Jul 16, 2020, at 10:26, William Levy <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> What I want to see on this list is when the K4 goes into production.
> Everything else is immaterial. That is what I am looking for. The Eureka
> announcement.
>
> I can not tell you how many things, parts, drugs, cars, boats,planes,
> lumber,steel, food, travel are impacted by the pandemic that this is little
> stuff and the K3 still soldiers on waiting for it's retirement, hopefully
> sooner than later.

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Tox

Re: K4 in production

The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved pre-covid.
Wondering what the facts are.
(not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
string-along)

Scott

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 7:40 AM Joe DeVincentis <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Eric did a Zoom meeting with the East Coast Ham Operators (ECHO) group on
> 7/14 (Tuesday).
>
> It was nice to see and hear some of the history of Elecraft.
>
> The question of K4 production was asked. He was very forthright. They
> have adjusted their manufacturing process for employee safety. Good to
> hear.
>
> Eric said that the hold up right now is parts. Unfortunately they can't
> control the big manufacturers. It does sound like production will be
> soon. Personally, I can't wait. The more I hear about the radio, the more
> excited I get. I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas to get here.
>
> IIRC, ECHO plans to post the video on their youtube channel soon (
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP-gkJVxKm1iS43RwYsaKuA <
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP-gkJVxKm1iS43RwYsaKuA>)
>
> 73,
> Joe, KO8V
>
> > On Jul 16, 2020, at 10:26, William Levy <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > What I want to see on this list is when the K4 goes into production.
> > Everything else is immaterial. That is what I am looking for. The Eureka
> > announcement.
> >
> > I can not tell you how many things, parts, drugs, cars, boats,planes,
> > lumber,steel, food, travel are impacted by the pandemic that this is
> little
> > stuff and the K3 still soldiers on waiting for it's retirement, hopefully
> > sooner than later.
>
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NK7Z

Re: K4 in production

Lets see, solved pre COVID, then COVID arrives, and messes up all
existing scheduling... No surprise here...

I doubt Elecraft has initiated a "string-along" process... All good
things take time... In the middle of all this COVID crap, I am
surprised Elecraft can do repair and return...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
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On 7/16/20 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:

> The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved pre-covid.
> Wondering what the facts are.
> (not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
> string-along)
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 7:40 AM Joe DeVincentis <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Eric did a Zoom meeting with the East Coast Ham Operators (ECHO) group on
>> 7/14 (Tuesday).
>>
>> It was nice to see and hear some of the history of Elecraft.
>>
>> The question of K4 production was asked. He was very forthright. They
>> have adjusted their manufacturing process for employee safety. Good to
>> hear.
>>
>> Eric said that the hold up right now is parts. Unfortunately they can't
>> control the big manufacturers. It does sound like production will be
>> soon. Personally, I can't wait. The more I hear about the radio, the more
>> excited I get. I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas to get here.
>>
>> IIRC, ECHO plans to post the video on their youtube channel soon (
>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP-gkJVxKm1iS43RwYsaKuA <
>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP-gkJVxKm1iS43RwYsaKuA>)
>>
>> 73,
>> Joe, KO8V
>>
>>> On Jul 16, 2020, at 10:26, William Levy <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> What I want to see on this list is when the K4 goes into production.
>>> Everything else is immaterial. That is what I am looking for. The Eureka
>>> announcement.
>>>
>>> I can not tell you how many things, parts, drugs, cars, boats,planes,
>>> lumber,steel, food, travel are impacted by the pandemic that this is
>> little
>>> stuff and the K3 still soldiers on waiting for it's retirement, hopefully
>>> sooner than later.
>>
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Tox

Re: K4 in production

November Delivery, pushed to Dec/Jan was no surprise.
Dec/Jan delivery unlikely to have been a casualty of COVID.

Scott

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:33 AM Dave Cole <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Lets see, solved pre COVID, then COVID arrives, and messes up all
> existing scheduling... No surprise here...
>
> I doubt Elecraft has initiated a "string-along" process... All good
> things take time... In the middle of all this COVID crap, I am
> surprised Elecraft can do repair and return...
>
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>
> On 7/16/20 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:
> > The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved
> pre-covid.
> > Wondering what the facts are.
> > (not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
> > string-along)
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 7:40 AM Joe DeVincentis <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> Eric did a Zoom meeting with the East Coast Ham Operators (ECHO) group
> on
> >> 7/14 (Tuesday).
> >>
> >> It was nice to see and hear some of the history of Elecraft.
> >>
> >> The question of K4 production was asked. He was very forthright. They
> >> have adjusted their manufacturing process for employee safety. Good to
> >> hear.
> >>
> >> Eric said that the hold up right now is parts. Unfortunately they can't
> >> control the big manufacturers. It does sound like production will be
> >> soon. Personally, I can't wait. The more I hear about the radio, the
> more
> >> excited I get. I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas to get here.
> >>
> >> IIRC, ECHO plans to post the video on their youtube channel soon (
> >> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP-gkJVxKm1iS43RwYsaKuA <
> >> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP-gkJVxKm1iS43RwYsaKuA>)
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Joe, KO8V
> >>
> >>> On Jul 16, 2020, at 10:26, William Levy <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What I want to see on this list is when the K4 goes into production.
> >>> Everything else is immaterial. That is what I am looking for. The
> Eureka
> >>> announcement.
> >>>
> >>> I can not tell you how many things, parts, drugs, cars, boats,planes,
> >>> lumber,steel, food, travel are impacted by the pandemic that this is
> >> little
> >>> stuff and the K3 still soldiers on waiting for it's retirement,
> hopefully
> >>> sooner than later.
> >>
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Ted Roycraft-3

Re: K4 in production

In reply to this post by NK7Z

I imagine that there is no one who wants the K4 out the door more than
Elecraft does. It makes no sense to think that they are intentionally
dragging their feet.

73, Ted, W2ZK (eagerly awaiting the delivery of my K4 too)

On 7/16/2020 13:33, Dave Cole wrote:

> Lets see, solved pre COVID, then COVID arrives, and messes up all
> existing scheduling... No surprise here...
>
> I doubt Elecraft has initiated a "string-along" process... All good
> things take time... In the middle of all this COVID crap, I am
> surprised Elecraft can do repair and return...
>
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>
> On 7/16/20 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:
>> The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved
>> pre-covid.
>> Wondering what the facts are.
>> (not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
>> string-along)
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 7:40 AM Joe DeVincentis <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Eric did a Zoom meeting with the East Coast Ham Operators (ECHO)
>>> group on
>>> 7/14 (Tuesday).
>>>
>>> It was nice to see and hear some of the history of Elecraft.
>>>
>>> The question of K4 production was asked. He was very forthright. They
>>> have adjusted their manufacturing process for employee safety. Good to
>>> hear.
>>>
>>> Eric said that the hold up right now is parts. Unfortunately they
>>> can't
>>> control the big manufacturers. It does sound like production will be
>>> soon. Personally, I can't wait. The more I hear about the radio,
>>> the more
>>> excited I get. I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas to get here.
>>>
>>> IIRC, ECHO plans to post the video on their youtube channel soon (
>>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP-gkJVxKm1iS43RwYsaKuA <
>>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP-gkJVxKm1iS43RwYsaKuA>)
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Joe, KO8V
>>>
>>>> On Jul 16, 2020, at 10:26, William Levy <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What I want to see on this list is when the K4 goes into production.
>>>> Everything else is immaterial. That is what I am looking for. The
>>>> Eureka
>>>> announcement.
>>>>
>>>> I can not tell you how many things, parts, drugs, cars, boats,planes,
>>>> lumber,steel, food, travel are impacted by the pandemic that this is
>>> little
>>>> stuff and the K3 still soldiers on waiting for it's retirement,
>>>> hopefully
>>>> sooner than later.
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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k6dgw

Re: K4 in production

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Say again? The virus began in Asia [Wuhan China to be exact] at the
very end of 2019. Many of the parts that Elecraft and every other
manufacturer uses are sourced out of Asia. Everyones' supply chains are
disrupted now but slowly improving.

Elecraft is based in California. The population density in California
is high ... high enough that if everyone stood 1 meter from everyone
else, some would be standing in Nevada and some in the Pacific Ocean.
[:=) From the news that leaks over the Sierra Nevada to Sparks,
Elecraft is really working to both resume normal production AND protect
their employees and families so they can continue normal production.

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 7/16/2020 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:
> The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved pre-covid.
> Wondering what the facts are.
> (not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
> string-along)
>
> Scott
>

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Tox

Re: K4 in production

Given lead times, if the Dec/Jan ship date was not BS, then parts would
already have already been in transit before primary covid impacts were in
place. OK, that was missed.

I understand these are not normal times. And I live in Santa Clara County,
understand current density and watch county #s (and Health Orders being
ignored by the public).

That they aren't shipping on time now seems most immediately attributable
to covid, agreed. That this is the case is seems a result of either failure
to deliver or failure to honestly communicate last year.

We're now reaching the window of the most recent round of delivery
promises, yet I don't know anyone, including those who fronted cash a year
ago on a Nov date, who has even gotten final pricing yet.

Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
(surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.

Scott

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:47 AM Fred Jensen <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Say again? The virus began in Asia [Wuhan China to be exact] at the
> very end of 2019. Many of the parts that Elecraft and every other
> manufacturer uses are sourced out of Asia. Everyones' supply chains are
> disrupted now but slowly improving.
>
> Elecraft is based in California. The population density in California
> is high ... high enough that if everyone stood 1 meter from everyone
> else, some would be standing in Nevada and some in the Pacific Ocean.
> [:=) From the news that leaks over the Sierra Nevada to Sparks,
> Elecraft is really working to both resume normal production AND protect
> their employees and families so they can continue normal production.
>
> 73,
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
> On 7/16/2020 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:
> > The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved
> pre-covid.
> > Wondering what the facts are.
> > (not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
> > string-along)
> >
> > Scott
> >
>
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Carl Yaffey

Re: K4 in production

>
> Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
> (surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
> sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.
>
> Scott
>
What? We’re not getting interest?
73 K8NU

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NK7Z

Re: K4 in production

In reply to this post by Tox

You should probably buy an Icom!

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
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On 7/16/20 10:55 AM, Tox wrote:

> Given lead times, if the Dec/Jan ship date was not BS, then parts would
> already have already been in transit before primary covid impacts were in
> place. OK, that was missed.
>
> I understand these are not normal times. And I live in Santa Clara County,
> understand current density and watch county #s (and Health Orders being
> ignored by the public).
>
> That they aren't shipping on time now seems most immediately attributable
> to covid, agreed. That this is the case is seems a result of either failure
> to deliver or failure to honestly communicate last year.
>
> We're now reaching the window of the most recent round of delivery
> promises, yet I don't know anyone, including those who fronted cash a year
> ago on a Nov date, who has even gotten final pricing yet.
>
> Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
> (surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
> sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.
>
> Scott
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:47 AM Fred Jensen <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Say again? The virus began in Asia [Wuhan China to be exact] at the
>> very end of 2019. Many of the parts that Elecraft and every other
>> manufacturer uses are sourced out of Asia. Everyones' supply chains are
>> disrupted now but slowly improving.
>>
>> Elecraft is based in California. The population density in California
>> is high ... high enough that if everyone stood 1 meter from everyone
>> else, some would be standing in Nevada and some in the Pacific Ocean.
>> [:=) From the news that leaks over the Sierra Nevada to Sparks,
>> Elecraft is really working to both resume normal production AND protect
>> their employees and families so they can continue normal production.
>>
>> 73,
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
>>
>> On 7/16/2020 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:
>>> The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved
>> pre-covid.
>>> Wondering what the facts are.
>>> (not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
>>> string-along)
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>
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rich hurd WC3T

Re: K4 in production

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From where I sit on the Right Coast, I'd be reluctant to front ANYONE that
amount of cash, reputation notwithstanding. Heck, George Z at Packtenna
couldn't until recently even get the antenna wire from Wireman. Stuff
happens. Supply chains bend and break.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:05 PM Carl Yaffey <[hidden email]> wrote:

> >
> > Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
> > (surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
> > sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> What? We’re not getting interest?
> 73 K8NU
>
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WILLIE BABER

Re: K4 in production

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....nonetheless, I think we are all hoping for the best with covid (and doing what we can to be safe) and vis-a-vis Elecraft.
If anyone thinks that Elecraft is trying to do anything other than their love of art, and make a living doing it, then whomever thinks that hasn't been paying attention since before the Elecraft K2.
73 will, wj9b

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CWA Advisor levels II and III
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On Thursday, July 16, 2020, 11:56:33 AM MDT, Tox <[hidden email]> wrote:

Given lead times, if the Dec/Jan ship date was not BS, then parts would
already have already been in transit before primary covid impacts were in
place. OK, that was missed.

I understand these are not normal times. And I live in Santa Clara County,
understand current density and watch county #s (and Health Orders being
ignored by the public).

That they aren't shipping on time now seems most immediately attributable
to covid, agreed. That this is the case is seems a result of either failure
to deliver or failure to honestly communicate last year.

We're now reaching the window of the most recent round of delivery
promises, yet I don't know anyone, including those who fronted cash a year
ago on a Nov date, who has even gotten final pricing yet.

Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
(surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.

Scott

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:47 AM Fred Jensen <[hidden email]> wrote:

--
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Rick Bates, NK7I

Re: K4 in production

In reply to this post by Tox

Given the on/off, cancel/restart mother may I, only with a mask
situation in CA (often spelled P_O_L_I_T_I_C_S), it's a wonder they're
doing as much as they have. That tap dance is on a very thin high wire
with no net.

Now consider that many parts do not come from the US, some of the
sources are from countries we're bickering with (see spelling above,
subtitle tariff), the parts that ARE here can't be put into boards that
can't be made because other businesses are less 'essential' (defined in
no law whatsoever)... all resolves to:

They're doing what they are allowed to do under the conditions they
face. And doing it well, the Elecraft way. This'll take a while so
patience is required.

If you truly feel deceived, cancel your order and let the next in line
move up a slot. I'm sure they be appreciative.

Rick NK7I
Another CA escapee and I don't miss it for a moment

On 7/16/2020 10:55 AM, Tox wrote:

> Given lead times, if the Dec/Jan ship date was not BS, then parts would
> already have already been in transit before primary covid impacts were in
> place. OK, that was missed.
>
> I understand these are not normal times. And I live in Santa Clara County,
> understand current density and watch county #s (and Health Orders being
> ignored by the public).
>
> That they aren't shipping on time now seems most immediately attributable
> to covid, agreed. That this is the case is seems a result of either failure
> to deliver or failure to honestly communicate last year.
>
> We're now reaching the window of the most recent round of delivery
> promises, yet I don't know anyone, including those who fronted cash a year
> ago on a Nov date, who has even gotten final pricing yet.
>
> Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
> (surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
> sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.
>
> Scott
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:47 AM Fred Jensen <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Say again? The virus began in Asia [Wuhan China to be exact] at the
>> very end of 2019. Many of the parts that Elecraft and every other
>> manufacturer uses are sourced out of Asia. Everyones' supply chains are
>> disrupted now but slowly improving.
>>
>> Elecraft is based in California. The population density in California
>> is high ... high enough that if everyone stood 1 meter from everyone
>> else, some would be standing in Nevada and some in the Pacific Ocean.
>> [:=) From the news that leaks over the Sierra Nevada to Sparks,
>> Elecraft is really working to both resume normal production AND protect
>> their employees and families so they can continue normal production.
>>
>> 73,
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
>>
>> On 7/16/2020 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:
>>> The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved
>> pre-covid.
>>> Wondering what the facts are.
>>> (not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
>>> string-along)
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
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Re: K4 in production

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If that's the way you feel, why don't you ask for your money back?

Ted, W2ZK

On 7/16/2020 13:55, Tox wrote:

> Given lead times, if the Dec/Jan ship date was not BS, then parts would
> already have already been in transit before primary covid impacts were in
> place. OK, that was missed.
>
> I understand these are not normal times. And I live in Santa Clara County,
> understand current density and watch county #s (and Health Orders being
> ignored by the public).
>
> That they aren't shipping on time now seems most immediately attributable
> to covid, agreed. That this is the case is seems a result of either failure
> to deliver or failure to honestly communicate last year.
>
> We're now reaching the window of the most recent round of delivery
> promises, yet I don't know anyone, including those who fronted cash a year
> ago on a Nov date, who has even gotten final pricing yet.
>
> Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
> (surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
> sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.
>
> Scott
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:47 AM Fred Jensen <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Say again? The virus began in Asia [Wuhan China to be exact] at the
>> very end of 2019. Many of the parts that Elecraft and every other
>> manufacturer uses are sourced out of Asia. Everyones' supply chains are
>> disrupted now but slowly improving.
>>
>> Elecraft is based in California. The population density in California
>> is high ... high enough that if everyone stood 1 meter from everyone
>> else, some would be standing in Nevada and some in the Pacific Ocean.
>> [:=) From the news that leaks over the Sierra Nevada to Sparks,
>> Elecraft is really working to both resume normal production AND protect
>> their employees and families so they can continue normal production.
>>
>> 73,
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
>>
>> On 7/16/2020 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:
>>> The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved
>> pre-covid.
>>> Wondering what the facts are.
>>> (not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
>>> string-along)
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
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WILLIE BABER

Re: K4 in production

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If I had the money to put up in advance I would "front" the money to Elecraft, based on the K3. And I did purchased kpa1500 in advance.
I purchased Orion before it was produced based on most of the previous Tentec radio too.
But I confess that while I do turn 70 years old in September, I am in excellent shape, still climbing towers.
Time can be an important factor, but who doesn't know that?
73, will, wj9b

CWops #1085
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On Thursday, July 16, 2020, 12:35:53 PM MDT, rich hurd WC3T <[hidden email]> wrote:

From where I sit on the Right Coast, I'd be reluctant to front ANYONE that
amount of cash, reputation notwithstanding. Heck, George Z at Packtenna
couldn't until recently even get the antenna wire from Wireman. Stuff
happens. Supply chains bend and break.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:05 PM Carl Yaffey <[hidden email]> wrote:

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Re: K4 in production

Climb safely.

Thankfully, I've never had a chance to hazard that much money -- though I
did just get a backordered SharkRF OpenSpot3. :)

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 3:05 PM WILLIE BABER <[hidden email]> wrote:

> If I had the money to put up in advance I would "front" the money to
> Elecraft, based on the K3. And I did purchased kpa1500 in advance.
>
> I purchased Orion before it was produced based on most of the previous
> Tentec radio too.
>
> But I confess that while I do turn 70 years old in September, I am in
> excellent shape, still climbing towers.
>
> Time can be an important factor, but who doesn't know that?
>
> 73, will, wj9b
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> CWops #1085
> CWA Advisor levels II and III
> http://cwops.org/
>
>
> On Thursday, July 16, 2020, 12:35:53 PM MDT, rich hurd WC3T <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>
> From where I sit on the Right Coast, I'd be reluctant to front ANYONE that
> amount of cash, reputation notwithstanding. Heck, George Z at Packtenna
> couldn't until recently even get the antenna wire from Wireman. Stuff
> happens. Supply chains bend and break.
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:05 PM Carl Yaffey <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
> > > (surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
> > > sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > What? We’re not getting interest?
> > 73 K8NU
> >
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> Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting
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Rick Bates, NK7I

Re: K4 in production

"The plan" was to get a tilt tower, so I don't have to climb and that
works great.

I also pre-paid for the KPA1500 and then once it arrived had to wait (2
years) for the shack to be built (else no 240V). I don't regret this
because Elecraft HAS the reputation for being the best at product and
service; they understand much better than the other brands.

No one has a guarantee to tomorrow, but there are signs of hope around.

73,
Rick NK7I

"It ain't the years darlin', it's the miles!" Indiana Jones

On 7/16/2020 12:13 PM, rich hurd WC3T wrote:

> Climb safely.
>
> Thankfully, I've never had a chance to hazard that much money -- though I
> did just get a backordered SharkRF OpenSpot3. :)
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 3:05 PM WILLIE BABER <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> If I had the money to put up in advance I would "front" the money to
>> Elecraft, based on the K3. And I did purchased kpa1500 in advance.
>>
>> I purchased Orion before it was produced based on most of the previous
>> Tentec radio too.
>>
>> But I confess that while I do turn 70 years old in September, I am in
>> excellent shape, still climbing towers.
>>
>> Time can be an important factor, but who doesn't know that?
>>
>> 73, will, wj9b
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> CWops #1085
>> CWA Advisor levels II and III
>> http://cwops.org/
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, July 16, 2020, 12:35:53 PM MDT, rich hurd WC3T <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From where I sit on the Right Coast, I'd be reluctant to front ANYONE that
>> amount of cash, reputation notwithstanding. Heck, George Z at Packtenna
>> couldn't until recently even get the antenna wire from Wireman. Stuff
>> happens. Supply chains bend and break.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:05 PM Carl Yaffey <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>>> Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
>>>> (surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
>>>> sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>> What? We’re not getting interest?
>>> 73 K8NU
>>>
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>> Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting
>> Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40°45.68' N 75°17.33' W) Grid:
>> *FN20is*
>>
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Nr4c

Re: K4 in production

In reply to this post by Carl Yaffey

No! I wouldn’t turn down free shipping and/or no price increase for those waiting.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill

> On Jul 16, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Carl Yaffey <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>> Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
>> (surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
>> sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.
>>
>> Scott
>>
> What? We’re not getting interest?
> 73 K8NU
>
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Nr4c

Re: K4 in production

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I did!

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill

> On Jul 16, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Dave Cole <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> You should probably buy an Icom!
>
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>
>> On 7/16/20 10:55 AM, Tox wrote:
>> Given lead times, if the Dec/Jan ship date was not BS, then parts would
>> already have already been in transit before primary covid impacts were in
>> place. OK, that was missed.
>> I understand these are not normal times. And I live in Santa Clara County,
>> understand current density and watch county #s (and Health Orders being
>> ignored by the public).
>> That they aren't shipping on time now seems most immediately attributable
>> to covid, agreed. That this is the case is seems a result of either failure
>> to deliver or failure to honestly communicate last year.
>> We're now reaching the window of the most recent round of delivery
>> promises, yet I don't know anyone, including those who fronted cash a year
>> ago on a Nov date, who has even gotten final pricing yet.
>> Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
>> (surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
>> sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.
>> Scott
>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:47 AM Fred Jensen <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Say again? The virus began in Asia [Wuhan China to be exact] at the
>>> very end of 2019. Many of the parts that Elecraft and every other
>>> manufacturer uses are sourced out of Asia. Everyones' supply chains are
>>> disrupted now but slowly improving.
>>>
>>> Elecraft is based in California. The population density in California
>>> is high ... high enough that if everyone stood 1 meter from everyone
>>> else, some would be standing in Nevada and some in the Pacific Ocean.
>>> [:=) From the news that leaks over the Sierra Nevada to Sparks,
>>> Elecraft is really working to both resume normal production AND protect
>>> their employees and families so they can continue normal production.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>>> Washoe County
>>>
>>> On 7/16/2020 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:
>>>> The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved
>>> pre-covid.
>>>> Wondering what the facts are.
>>>> (not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
>>>> string-along)
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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Jim Brown-10

Re: K4 in production

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On 7/16/2020 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:
> The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved pre-covid.

To varying degrees, the whole world is affected by COVID, including
manufacturers and distributors of parts. Few are designated as essential.

73, Jim K9YC
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