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K4 panadapter vs. P3

wayne burdick
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> David Stout wrote:
>
> I would like to see a comparison of the P3 and K4 in full screen mode. Is the K4 scope faster, higher res?


Hi David,

The K4's LCD has nearly 3x the area of the P3's, and 5x as many pixels. The resolution (pixels per inch) is about 30% greater. It's faster as well as brighter -- the K4 screen was easily readable in diffuse daylight during Field Day, while some other rigs' displays were not.

The K4's panadapter area using the standard display format is 25% greater than the P3's. This doesn't include the per-VFO "mini-pan" displays that overlay the S-meters, when desired, for fine tuning of signals.

Thanks to the much larger LCD, variations on the panadapter could be created that are much larger than this, at the expense of some per-receiver icons and the S-meters. So far we haven't felt the need, partly because the K4 includes an HDMI output that can drive an external monitor of any required size. This external monitor can be configured to display just the panadapter, with independent settings from the panadapter on the LCD.

Beyond this the K4 display provides:

- dual-pan mode (separate panadapters for main/A and sub/B)

- single or dual text decode windows

- far more digital signal processing horsepower (in aggregate,
  roughly an order of magnitude greater than the K3S+P3)

- built-in IQ data streaming for use with computer applications

- a configurable multi-band mode to allow a quick check of activity
  on your favorite bands
 
- more flexibility in terms of display functions

- overlays for various functions (e.g.: DX call station list,
  help information on all controls, RX/TX graphic EQ, alphanumeric
  keyboard for message/macro/menu entry, etc.);

- virtually unlimited code space for future expansion; examples
  might include high-performance data decoders, AZ/EL display,
  custom station controls, image display, etc.

In short, the K4's display is much larger and more versatile, providing the kind of control visibility and convenience that's only possible by integrating the display into the transceiver itself.

Oh, and it's really fun to use :)

Wayne
N6KR



 
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Re: K4 panadapter vs. P3

Doug Turnbull
Wayne,
     You have a Porsche of the radio world for us.    I just wish Fred Cady,
KE7X was around to further illustrate and explain.    Your technical writer
has a job on his/her hands.    I am anxiously waiting my K4 - this is going
to be fun.
                  73 Doug EI2CN

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> David Stout wrote:
>
> I would like to see a comparison of the P3 and K4 in full screen mode. Is
the K4 scope faster, higher res?


Hi David,

The K4's LCD has nearly 3x the area of the P3's, and 5x as many pixels. The
resolution (pixels per inch) is about 30% greater. It's faster as well as
brighter -- the K4 screen was easily readable in diffuse daylight during
Field Day, while some other rigs' displays were not.

The K4's panadapter area using the standard display format is 25% greater
than the P3's. This doesn't include the per-VFO "mini-pan" displays that
overlay the S-meters, when desired, for fine tuning of signals.

Thanks to the much larger LCD, variations on the panadapter could be created
that are much larger than this, at the expense of some per-receiver icons
and the S-meters. So far we haven't felt the need, partly because the K4
includes an HDMI output that can drive an external monitor of any required
size. This external monitor can be configured to display just the
panadapter, with independent settings from the panadapter on the LCD.

Beyond this the K4 display provides:

- dual-pan mode (separate panadapters for main/A and sub/B)

- single or dual text decode windows

- far more digital signal processing horsepower (in aggregate,
  roughly an order of magnitude greater than the K3S+P3)

- built-in IQ data streaming for use with computer applications

- a configurable multi-band mode to allow a quick check of activity
  on your favorite bands
 
- more flexibility in terms of display functions

- overlays for various functions (e.g.: DX call station list,
  help information on all controls, RX/TX graphic EQ, alphanumeric
  keyboard for message/macro/menu entry, etc.);

- virtually unlimited code space for future expansion; examples
  might include high-performance data decoders, AZ/EL display,
  custom station controls, image display, etc.

In short, the K4's display is much larger and more versatile, providing the
kind of control visibility and convenience that's only possible by
integrating the display into the transceiver itself.

Oh, and it's really fun to use :)

Wayne
N6KR



 
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Re: K4 panadapter vs. P3

David Gilbert
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Hopefully including the option for the waterfall to run from right to
left instead of top to bottom (including a screen tap-to-pause feature)
to allow visual decoding of CW.

Dave   AB7E


On 10/31/2019 8:40 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
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> - virtually unlimited code space for future expansion; examples
>    might include high-performance data decoders, AZ/EL display,
>    custom station controls, image display, etc.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>

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Re: K4 panadapter vs. P3

Augie "Gus" Hansen
On 10/31/2019 12:45 PM, David Gilbert wrote:
> Hopefully including the option for the waterfall to run from right to
> left instead of top to bottom (including a screen tap-to-pause
> feature) to allow visual decoding of CW.

  I like the idea, but if running horizontally instead of vertically,
perhaps we should call the moving display an "aqueduct".

Gus Hansen
KB0YH

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Re: K4 panadapter vs. P3

k6dgw
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And a monochrome WF option too like the P3?

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 10/31/2019 11:45 AM, David Gilbert wrote:

>
> Hopefully including the option for the waterfall to run from right to
> left instead of top to bottom (including a screen tap-to-pause
> feature) to allow visual decoding of CW.
>
> Dave   AB7E
>
>
> On 10/31/2019 8:40 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>
>> - virtually unlimited code space for future expansion; examples
>>    might include high-performance data decoders, AZ/EL display,
>>    custom station controls, image display, etc.
>>
>> Wayne
>> N6KR

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Re: K4 panadapter vs. P3

Gary Smith-2
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I have to say I'm really looking forward
to using this, it sounds like it's going
to be wonderful.

73, Gary KA1J


>
> > David Stout wrote:
> >
> > I would like to see a comparison of the P3 and K4 in full screen
> > mode. Is the K4 scope faster, higher res?
>
>
> Hi David,
>
> The K4's LCD has nearly 3x the area of the P3's, and 5x as many
> pixels. The resolution (pixels per inch) is about 30% greater. It's
> faster as well as brighter -- the K4 screen was easily readable in
> diffuse daylight during Field Day, while some other rigs' displays
> were not.
>
> The K4's panadapter area using the standard display format is 25%
> greater than the P3's. This doesn't include the per-VFO "mini-pan"
> displays that overlay the S-meters, when desired, for fine tuning of
> signals.
>
> Thanks to the much larger LCD, variations on the panadapter could be
> created that are much larger than this, at the expense of some
> per-receiver icons and the S-meters. So far we haven't felt the need,
> partly because the K4 includes an HDMI output that can drive an
> external monitor of any required size. This external monitor can be
> configured to display just the panadapter, with independent settings
> from the panadapter on the LCD.
>
> Beyond this the K4 display provides:
>
> - dual-pan mode (separate panadapters for main/A and sub/B)
>
> - single or dual text decode windows
>
> - far more digital signal processing horsepower (in aggregate,
>   roughly an order of magnitude greater than the K3S+P3)
>
> - built-in IQ data streaming for use with computer applications
>
> - a configurable multi-band mode to allow a quick check of activity
>   on your favorite bands
>
> - more flexibility in terms of display functions
>
> - overlays for various functions (e.g.: DX call station list,
>   help information on all controls, RX/TX graphic EQ, alphanumeric
>   keyboard for message/macro/menu entry, etc.);
>
> - virtually unlimited code space for future expansion; examples
>   might include high-performance data decoders, AZ/EL display,
>   custom station controls, image display, etc.
>
> In short, the K4's display is much larger and more versatile,
> providing the kind of control visibility and convenience that's only
> possible by integrating the display into the transceiver itself.
>
> Oh, and it's really fun to use :)
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>
>
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