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Leroy

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Will you be able to remote operate with an app?

Leroy AB7CE
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wayne burdick

Re: K4

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> On May 16, 2019, at 3:53 PM, lmarion <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Will you be able to remote operate with an app?

Definitely. One radio can control another, or you can use a tablet / netbook / PC. Via Ethernet.

We’ll be doing showing multi-device remote control tomorrow.

Wayne
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Carl Jón Denbow

Re: K4

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I think my TS-890s and/or my Flex 6600M just went on the auction block. 73 de Carl

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> On May 16, 2019, at 4:53 PM, lmarion <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Will you be able to remote operate with an app?
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Wes Stewart-2

Re: K4

What's the matter with the '890?

Wes N7WS

On 5/16/2019 1:56 PM, Carl Jón Denbow wrote:
> I think my TS-890s and/or my Flex 6600M just went on the auction block. 73 de Carl
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Dennis Moore

Re: K4

It's not a K4.

73, Dennis NJ6G

On 5/16/2019 14:10, Wes wrote:
> What's the matter with the '890?
>
> Wes N7WS
>
> On 5/16/2019 1:56 PM, Carl Jón Denbow wrote:
>> I think my TS-890s and/or my Flex 6600M just went on the auction
>> block. 73 de Carl
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Carl Jón Denbow

Re: K4

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Nothing. Just the K4 looks potentially better, and I if I order one something has to go to raise the cash. 73 de Carl

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> On May 16, 2019, at 5:10 PM, Wes <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> What's the matter with the '890?
>
> Wes N7WS
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>> On 5/16/2019 1:56 PM, Carl Jón Denbow wrote:
>> I think my TS-890s and/or my Flex 6600M just went on the auction block. 73 de Carl
>>
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Drew AF2Z

Re: K4

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Will it be feasible to operate CW remotely with a hand key (straight
key, bug)?

73,
Drew
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On 05/16/19 16:56, Wayne Burdick wrote:

>
>> On May 16, 2019, at 3:53 PM, lmarion <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Will you be able to remote operate with an app?
>
> Definitely. One radio can control another, or you can use a tablet / netbook / PC. Via Ethernet.
>
> We’ll be doing showing multi-device remote control tomorrow.
>
> Wayne
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hbjr

Re: K4

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Make a video!

Hank
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> On May 16, 2019, at 3:53 PM, lmarion <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Will you be able to remote operate with an app?

Definitely. One radio can control another, or you can use a tablet / netbook / PC. Via Ethernet.

We’ll be doing showing multi-device remote control tomorrow.

Wayne
N6KR
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john@kk9a.com

Re: K4

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Hello Wayne

I miss the great food in Chicago.

Is the K4 an additional product or a replacement for the K3S? I own three
K3Ss and I am wondering if I will soon have obsolete transceivers.

John KK9A/4

Wayne Burdick n6kr wrote:

Reporting live from Chicago, en route to the Hamvention.... Yes,
Schrödinger's cat is out of the bag :)

Apologies for the web page glitch. Someone found it before it was ready.
Itll be back up tomorrow morning.

If you managed to place a reservation already, please email sales at
elecraft.com to confirm.

More later

Wayne
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Kevin Cozens-2

Re: K4

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On 2019-05-16 5:10 p.m., Wes wrote:
> What's the matter with the '890?

Not a lot. I love my Yaesu FT-890 (for "high power" at 100 Watt). ;)

It would be nice to go to Dayton and meet the Elecraft people. I haven't
been down that way in many a year.

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Jim Brown-10

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On 5/16/2019 6:19 PM, Kevin Cozens wrote:
> On 2019-05-16 5:10 p.m., Wes wrote:
>> What's the matter with the '890?
>
> Not a lot.

It got a glowing review from Rob Sherwood today at Contest University.
But it's only one RX.

73, Jim K9YC

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Wes Stewart-2

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My K3S has only one receiver. The K3 before that had only one receiver. The
TS-870 before that had only one receiver. The Drake TR-7 before that had only
one receiver. The Henry Tempo-One before that had only one receiver. The
Collins KWM-1 before that had only one receiver and everything before that was a
separate RX/TX. And yet, I'm on the DXCC Honor Roll, have CW, Phone, RTTY and
9-band DXCCs all from within a 10 mile circle in Tucson running no more than
500W to wires or a triband Yagi at 50 feet. Everybody knows you can't do this
without two receivers.

Wes N7WS

On 5/16/2019 8:42 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

> On 5/16/2019 6:19 PM, Kevin Cozens wrote:
>> On 2019-05-16 5:10 p.m., Wes wrote:
>>> What's the matter with the '890?
>>
>> Not a lot.
>
> It got a glowing review from Rob Sherwood today at Contest University. But
> it's only one RX.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC

Jim Brown-10

Re: K4

On 5/16/2019 11:02 PM, Wes wrote:
> My K3S has only one receiver.

You are smart enough to know that there are good reasons for having two
synchronized receivers.

73, Jim K9YC

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Vic Rosenthal

Re: K4

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Whether you can do something with less capable equipment that someone
else uses more sophisticated gear to do isn't the point. The point is
that two receivers are better than one. Personally, I could deal with
split pileups with a single receiver (as I did for many years) but I
could not have diversity reception without them. And I would NEVER want
to give that up.

73,
Victor, 4X6GP
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On 17/05/2019 9:02, Wes wrote:

> My K3S has only one receiver. The K3 before that had only one receiver.
> The TS-870 before that had only one receiver. The Drake TR-7 before
> that had only one receiver. The Henry Tempo-One before that had only
> one receiver. The Collins KWM-1 before that had only one receiver and
> everything before that was a separate RX/TX. And yet, I'm on the DXCC
> Honor Roll, have CW, Phone, RTTY and 9-band DXCCs all from within a 10
> mile circle in Tucson running no more than 500W to wires or a triband
> Yagi at 50 feet. Everybody knows you can't do this without two receivers.
>
> Wes N7WS
>
> On 5/16/2019 8:42 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>> On 5/16/2019 6:19 PM, Kevin Cozens wrote:
>>> On 2019-05-16 5:10 p.m., Wes wrote:
>>>> What's the matter with the '890?
>>>
>>> Not a lot.
>>
>> It got a glowing review from Rob Sherwood today at Contest University.
>> But it's only one RX.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC

Wes Stewart-2

Re: K4

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There are good reasons to have ten 200' towers and stacked Yagis too, but I
don't. Not knocking those who do, but I have self-imposed limits which I
express in my QRZ bio (https://www.qrz.com/db/N7WS). For two receivers, you
need two antennas. I don't have then either :-)

Wes N7WS

On 5/17/2019 12:36 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
> On 5/16/2019 11:02 PM, Wes wrote:
>> My K3S has only one receiver.
>
> You are smart enough to know that there are good reasons for having two
> synchronized receivers.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC

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w7aqk

Re: K4

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Wes and all,

No, a 2nd RX is certainly not mandatory. If you have one it is still no
guarantee that you will do great things (I haven't--not like Wes has!!).
Nonetheless, it is a tool, and a very good one if used properly. Some may
question the cost benefit, and that is a very valid point. However,
cost/benefit doesn't seem to enter into the equation much of the time, since
if it did, we wouldn't see so many exotic rigs on people's desks!!!

My K3 has two receivers, as did the Orion II that preceded it. However, I
didn't get the 2nd RX straight away on my K3. It didn't take long, though,
as I had gotten spoiled by the Orion II's 2nd RX and what I could do with
it. Actually I had a "taste" of what a 2nd RX could do with some of my
older Ten-Tec gear (Omni A, series B, and a Corsair). Both had outboard 2nd
VFO accessories, and with either you could monitor a 2nd frequency while
transmitting on another. Not quite the same as having a 2nd RX, but close
enough, particularly at that stage of rig development.

Maybe I misread things, but with the K4 it looks like a 2nd RX is standard,
not an accessory. The "P3" is built in as well. The only accessory I noted
that would be mandatory in my case is the ATU, the KAT4. So, all together
it seems that a K4 can actually be cheaper than a well accessorized K3S!
Now, that is an interesting fact. I say that because, in the past, Elecraft
has announced new rigs, but then taken several (many!) months to actually
get production going. Since the K4 is supposedly a big advancement, and a
well equipped one is actually cheaper than the predecessor K3S, it would
seem that orders for the K3S are about to dry up--big time!!! I don't see
Elecraft sitting on their hands for several months with no rig orders (can
the KPA1500 orders sustain things in Watsonville?), so my guess is that the
time frame between announcement and production is going to be much shorter
than usual. Well, that's my guess anyway.

Well, this is strictly a spectator sport for me. I have no plans to replace
my K3 anytime soon. Not that I'm not impressed with new developments, but
I'm just too far down the road to jump all over new stuff like I used to. I
am looking forward to seeing a K4 in action though! Hi. Somebody nearby
please buy one!!!!

Cheers,

Dave W7AQK

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From: Wes <[hidden email]>
My K3S has only one receiver. The K3 before that had only one receiver.? The
TS-870 before that had only one receiver.? The Drake TR-7 before that had
only
one receiver.? The Henry Tempo-One before that had only one receiver. The
Collins KWM-1 before that had only one receiver and everything before that
was a
separate RX/TX. And yet, I'm on the DXCC Honor Roll, have CW, Phone, RTTY
and?
9-band DXCCs all from within a 10 mile circle in Tucson running no more than
500W to wires or a triband Yagi at 50 feet.? Everybody knows you can't do
this
without two receivers.

Wes? N7WS

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Luis V Romero (mobile)

Re: K4

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My TS450 had one receiver. My TS850 also had one receiver.

On both radios, when I sold them, the TF-SET button didn't say TF-SET
anymore... It was blank. I wore the label right off of them pressing that
button rapidly over and over and over in split pileups.

My K3 has two receivers. I have macros that automatically activate the
second receiver and set my TX VFO up 1 or up 5 depending on the mode. The
macro also places the second receiver in my left ear and the main VFO in the
center of my headset stereo image. I don't hear the popping noise when
switching VFO's anymore. I don't worry about remembering to press LOCK on
VFO A to save me in case my timing is off when tweaking my TX frequency
anymore.

I like that.

After 10 years of ownership, the K3's REV button still has the label printed
on it. I don't expect that label will ever wear off. I really never touch
it.

Yes my right index finger doesn't get the exercise it used to, but when I
need the workout, I go to my club station and use their IC7700. Icom was
smart: They put the label UNDER the XFC button. The XFC button is metal. It
should take the abuse better than Kenwood's plastic button.

Times change. Technology and techniques change with it. Easy is good.

Lu Romero - W4LT

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My K3S has only one receiver. The K3 before that had only one receiver.? The

TS-870 before that had only one receiver.? The Drake TR-7 before that had
only
one receiver.? The Henry Tempo-One before that had only one receiver. The
Collins KWM-1 before that had only one receiver and everything before that
was a
separate RX/TX. And yet, I'm on the DXCC Honor Roll, have CW, Phone, RTTY
and?
9-band DXCCs all from within a 10 mile circle in Tucson running no more than

500W to wires or a triband Yagi at 50 feet.? Everybody knows you can't do
this
without two receivers.

Wes? N7WS

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