KAT100

[N5SM]

Hello
Can the KAT100 be installed inside the K2/100 when I  have the following
options already installed?
KSB2, K160RX, KNB2, KDSP2, and KIO2. I would like to have everything inside
the K2/100 case if
that is possible.
Thanks
Scott N5SM

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[Mark Bayern]

Nope.  Not enough room.  The K2/100 is quite full.  BTW, a K2/100
doesn't need the KIO2 option, it is built into the KPA100.

Mark AD5SS


On 6/28/07, Scott McDowell <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hello
> Can the KAT100 be installed inside the K2/100 when I  have the following
> options already installed?
> KSB2, K160RX, KNB2, KDSP2, and KIO2. I would like to have everything inside
> the K2/100 case if
> that is possible.
> Thanks
> Scott N5SM
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[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ]

The KAT2 20W ATU can be installed in the K2 with these options.

The KAT100 is an external only unit.

73, Eric
================


Scott McDowell wrote:

> Hello
> Can the KAT100 be installed inside the K2/100 when I  have the
> following options already installed?
> KSB2, K160RX, KNB2, KDSP2, and KIO2. I would like to have everything
> inside the K2/100 case if
> that is possible.
> Thanks
> Scott N5SM
>
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[Don Wilhelm-3]

Scott,

If you have the KIO2 installed then you must actually have the KPA100
installed in an external EC2 enclosure - if that is true, then yes, the
KPA100 and the KAT100-2 can live together in the external EC2 enclosure.

BUT, if you are trying to fit everything into one K2 package with the
KPA100 as the top cover on a K2, then neither the KIO2 nor the KAT100
will fit - the KPA100 takes the entire available physical space.  The
KPA100 does include the KIO2 functions, but not the KIO2 itself.

73,
Don W3FPR

Scott McDowell wrote:
> Hello
> Can the KAT100 be installed inside the K2/100 when I  have the following
> options already installed?
> KSB2, K160RX, KNB2, KDSP2, and KIO2. I would like to have everything
> inside the K2/100 case if
> that is possible.
> Thanks
> Scott N5SM
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[Charly]

Please, no offense meant, but could Elecraft posters please put the model
name of the subject of your post in the subject line of the message?

Much as I should love the K2, I really would rather read only the K3
posts... and a notation in the subject line would let me go to K3 stuff
only.

A big thank you to one and all.......... 73

Charles Harpole    HS0ZCW
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[Ian Stirling, G4ICV, AB2GR]

On Friday 29 June 2007 00:45:44 Charles Harpole wrote:
> Please, no offense meant, but could Elecraft posters please put the model
> name of the subject of your post in the subject line of the message?

  I wish people would understand that hitting "reply" on a message
in order to pick up the list address is not the correct way to start
a new thread.
 Charles, your intended top level, new thread, is nested two deep
in the KAT100 thread started by Scott.
 
 Hitting "reply" and changing the subject does not start a new thread.
Threads, (references in the usually invisible headers), are a way to
allow changing subjects as topics change and still link to the origins.

  Hitting "reply" within a thread with an unrelated topic is not only
bad netiquette, the sender risks those bored with the thread won't
even see it because they don't open the possibly uninteresting thread
below which it was posted.

Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962
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[Julian, G4ILO]

On 6/29/07, Ian Stirling <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>   I wish people would understand that hitting "reply" on a message
> in order to pick up the list address is not the correct way to start
> a new thread.

Hitting "reply" here addresses the reply to the sender of the posting
I'm replying to, not the list, which is a real pain as I'm getting too
old and stupid to always remember to change the recipient to
[hidden email] before hitting "send".

By the way, Charles' posting showed up as a new thread for me.

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[srife]

Eric, I'm glad I saw this KAT100 thread. I wanted to ask if the KAT100 will tune ok on 6m. I looked through the specs and the rest of the manual and could only find reference to 160 through 10. The specs did not include a frequency coverage range.
   
  Stan Rife
  W5EWA
 

"Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <[hidden email]> wrote:
  The KAT2 20W ATU can be installed in the K2 with these options.

The KAT100 is an external only unit.

73, Eric
================


Scott McDowell wrote:

> Hello
> Can the KAT100 be installed inside the K2/100 when I have the
> following options already installed?
> KSB2, K160RX, KNB2, KDSP2, and KIO2. I would like to have everything
> inside the K2/100 case if
> that is possible.
> Thanks
> Scott N5SM
>
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[srife]

Didn't someone physically attach a KAT100 to the bottom of a K2 a while back. Seems like I saw something about that on the reflector. It made it look like one big cabinet.
   
  Stan Rife
  W5EWA
 

Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
  Scott,

If you have the KIO2 installed then you must actually have the KPA100
installed in an external EC2 enclosure - if that is true, then yes, the
KPA100 and the KAT100-2 can live together in the external EC2 enclosure.

BUT, if you are trying to fit everything into one K2 package with the
KPA100 as the top cover on a K2, then neither the KIO2 nor the KAT100
will fit - the KPA100 takes the entire available physical space. The
KPA100 does include the KIO2 functions, but not the KIO2 itself.

73,
Don W3FPR

Scott McDowell wrote:
> Hello
> Can the KAT100 be installed inside the K2/100 when I have the following
> options already installed?
> KSB2, K160RX, KNB2, KDSP2, and KIO2. I would like to have everything
> inside the K2/100 case if
> that is possible.
> Thanks
> Scott N5SM
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[KJ3D-2]

 OK,

I've had this problem since joining the reflector.

I just sent a test message to:

[hidden email]

The message was promptly returned to my inbox with the following notation:

QUOTE

A message (from <[hidden email]>) was received at 29 Jun 2007 15:11:03
+0000.

The following addresses had delivery problems:

<[hidden email]>
        Permanent Failure: Other address status
        Delivery last attempted at Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:11:03 -0000

END QUOTE

I have tried EVERYTHING I can think of to get a message to the list WITHOUT
using the reply button on someone else's post (as I did with this message).
I know that creates a nesting problem, but don't know how to fix it.

Please tell me the single, correct address to send messages to the
reflector, and I will use it.

Thanks es 73

Tom, KJ3D
K2/100 4991

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[Ian Stirling, G4ICV, AB2GR]

On Friday 29 June 2007 03:29:18 Julian G4ILO wrote:

> Hitting "reply" here addresses the reply to the sender of the posting
> I'm replying to, not the list, which is a real pain as I'm getting too
> old and stupid to always remember to change the recipient to
> [hidden email] before hitting "send".
>
> By the way, Charles' posting showed up as a new thread for me.

  I do not have a "reply-to" field in my headers,
so I suspect strongly that the destination of your
reply is determined by your email software setting,
nothing to do with my settings.  Supporting this
notion, when I "reply" to my own posting, the
destination is to the list, not to me. And replying
to certain members' posts, the destinations are their
personal addresses because they have a "reply-to" in
their headers, a function of their software settings.
  Sounds like you aren't displaying threads because
Charles's header clearly contains,
  "In-Reply-To: [Don's message ID]
 You are probably displaying the messages in subject
order, not threads.

Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962
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[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ]

Hi Stan,

I believe the KAT100 is only specified for use with the K2 through 10M.

(The K3's internal ATU -does- work on 6M.)

73, Eric


Stan Rife wrote:
> Eric, I'm glad I saw this KAT100 thread. I wanted to ask if the KAT100 will tune ok on 6m. I looked through the specs and the rest of the manual and could only find reference to 160 through 10. The specs did not include a frequency coverage range.
>    
>   Stan Rife
>   W5EWA
>  

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[KJ3D-2]

Well, Well...

That did it!  I thought all my email was in text, but apparently not.

Thanks,

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Van Wallaghen [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 11:34 AM
To: 'KJ3D'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] posting style

Tom,

Not sure if this is the same problem I had or not, but make sure your email
editor is set for text only for submitting to the list. I had mine defaulted
to HTML and any time I composed a new message and submitted it to the list,
it was rejected. Although, I think I got a message stating so.

If you reply to the list, the email editor defaults to whatever the
originating post was composed with, which is why replies worked for me and
not new submittals.

73,
Dave
W8FGU

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:elecraft-
> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of KJ3D
> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 11:26 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] posting style
>
>  OK,
>
> I've had this problem since joining the reflector.
>
> I just sent a test message to:
>
> [hidden email]
>
> The message was promptly returned to my inbox with the following notation:
>
> QUOTE
>
> A message (from <[hidden email]>) was received at 29 Jun 2007
> 15:11:03
> +0000.
>
> The following addresses had delivery problems:
>
> <[hidden email]>
> Permanent Failure: Other address status
> Delivery last attempted at Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:11:03 -0000
>
> END QUOTE
>
> I have tried EVERYTHING I can think of to get a message to the list
> WITHOUT using the reply button on someone else's post (as I did with
> this message).
> I know that creates a nesting problem, but don't know how to fix it.
>
> Please tell me the single, correct address to send messages to the
> reflector, and I will use it.
>
> Thanks es 73
>
> Tom, KJ3D
> K2/100 4991
>
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[Julian, G4ILO]

On 6/29/07, Ian Stirling <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>   I do not have a "reply-to" field in my headers,
> so I suspect strongly that the destination of your
> reply is determined by your email software setting,
> nothing to do with my settings.  Supporting this
> notion, when I "reply" to my own posting, the
> destination is to the list, not to me. And replying
> to certain members' posts, the destinations are their
> personal addresses because they have a "reply-to" in
> their headers, a function of their software settings.
>   Sounds like you aren't displaying threads because
> Charles's header clearly contains,
>   "In-Reply-To: [Don's message ID]
>  You are probably displaying the messages in subject
> order, not threads.
>

Your message to me has the headers:

From: Ian Stirling <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]

The only way I can get a reply to go to the list is to select Reply
All, which is hidden in a menu. Then a reply goes to the sender and a
separate Cc to the list. You'll probably get two copies of this. :) If
anyone knows how to make Reply All the default option in GMail I'd be
extremely grateful.

GMail does display messages in threads, which is one reason why it is
a very good way to read this list. I can see the In-Reply-To:, but
GMail is obviously clever enough to know that despite that, if the
subject header changes it is probably a new topic.

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[Brian Mury-3]

On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 11:36 -0400, Ian Stirling wrote:
>   I do not have a "reply-to" field in my headers,
> so I suspect strongly that the destination of your
> reply is determined by your email software setting,
> nothing to do with my settings.  Supporting this
> notion, when I "reply" to my own posting, the
> destination is to the list, not to me. And replying
> to certain members' posts, the destinations are their
> personal addresses because they have a "reply-to" in
> their headers, a function of their software settings.

You are correct that you have no reply-to header, but if I reply to your
message, it still goes to you, not the list. This is because the message
has a bunch of headers telling my mail client that this message is a
post to an email list. This is common behaviour for some (perhaps many?)
mail clients. I'm not sure which is considered the "correct" behaviour
and don't really care enough to go look up the RFC's - assuming they
even specify a "correct" behaviour.

My mail client, btw, has two ways I can reply: reply (goes to you) and
reply to list (goes to the list), which I find to be a very useful way
of doing it.

> Sounds like you aren't displaying threads because
> Charles's header clearly contains,

Yep, definitely a reply to Don's message and part of the KAT100 thread
and your email client (like mine) is correct in showing it as part of
that thread.


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[Brian Mury-3]

On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 17:05 +0100, Julian G4ILO wrote:
> The only way I can get a reply to go to the list is to select Reply
> All, which is hidden in a menu.

That's gmail's fault for not providing a "reply to list" option. You
could send them a feature request (I believe there is an online form for
doing this), but I haven't found them very responsive in the past. Maybe
they just don't like my feature requests! ;-)

> GMail does display messages in threads, which is one reason why it is
> a very good way to read this list.

Well, it groups them together into what gmail calls "conversations".
This is not quite the same as a threading email reader which displays
them in a hierarchical tree - and not as useful either.

>  I can see the In-Reply-To:, but
> GMail is obviously clever enough to know that despite that, if the
> subject header changes it is probably a new topic.

Incorrect (and non-standard) behaviour for a mail client. Threads often
drift slowly over time, and eventually someone changes the subject line;
or often people will change the subject line to be more specific to
their own post which is still about the same topic. I would not want my
mail reader displaying these as new threads.


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[AJSOENKE]

Also, any AOL users who don't already know, the default reply mode is HTML.  
To defeat this and reply in plain text, right click the mouse cursor in the
text  window (but not on the text) and select the menu item at bottom of list
"Compose  in Plain  Text". Works for  v9.x, haven't tried older versions.   This
needs to be done for each new session, but usually only first response.
 
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