KAT500 operation?
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I am using a K3 and KPA500 with the KAT500.
I also have the KAT500 mode set to MAN. I thought that the firmware was supposed to switch the tuner automatically when you switch bands? After I go to a new band, I need to tap my key momentarily to get the tuner to tune to the new frequency. Is this normal? Let me know as I thought the tuner would remember the presets when QSY'ing to a new frequency? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Mike AC6JA ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I am using the most current firmware versions in the K3, KAT500, and
KPA500. I am also using the Elecraft auxilliary cables. Not sure what else to check as to why the KAT500 won't update the tuner preselects when QSY'ing? Mike AC6JA In a message dated 6/14/2014 12:37:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: Mike, Not normal! The KAT should QSY if the KAT500 is interfaced with the K3 & KPA500 as per the manual. It is trule a K=Line system! First - make sure you have the most current version of firmware. There have been a few updates that fixed issues that you describe. I have Beta 1.63 in my KAT500. You need the K3, KAT, & KPA all tied together as per the KAT manual. I may not have the same manual as you do but it is the section interfacing K3 & KPA with DB15 cables. Make sure that the antenna selection for each band is correct using the KAT500 Utility. Set the tune power in the K3 - I use 20 watts; because I had an early KAT and that was what it needed. Not sure if it affects the KAT but I have my K3 power set to per band for the KPA. Then you need to train (tune) the KAT on the band segments that you will be QSYing to. The bands have different segment sizes so check the manual. I tune with the KAT in Auto mode. Press the KAT Tune button then hold the K3 Tune button. This should initiate the tune function in the KAT500. I "Trained" my KAT on all bands that I use. I incremented the frequency from the bottom of the voice frequencies to the top frequencies. This did take a while but now I can QSY and a second or so after I stop turning the VFO dial I hear the relays in the KAT set. This means that the tuner is optimized when I transmit. BTW - I do run my tuner in MAN (manual) mode so it does not try to retune on voice modulation. Above is how I operate my KAT. I have an early Kit that has had several firmware updates. A couple were for the issue you seem to have. Mine works well for me with several antennas. Hope this might help you. If not others may have an idea of Elecraft will surly help on Monday. 73 George AI4VZ -----Original Message----- From: Mike Hagele AC6JA via Elecraft Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 3:11 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 operation? I am using a K3 and KPA500 with the KAT500. I also have the KAT500 mode set to MAN. I thought that the firmware was supposed to switch the tuner automatically when you switch bands? After I go to a new band, I need to tap my key momentarily to get the tuner to tune to the new frequency. Is this normal? Let me know as I thought the tuner would remember the presets when QSY'ing to a new frequency? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Mike AC6JA ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On 6/14/2014 12:11 PM, Mike Hagele AC6JA via Elecraft wrote:
> I am using a K3 and KPA500 with the KAT500. I also have the KAT500 > mode set to MAN. I thought that the firmware was supposed to switch > the tuner automatically when you switch bands? After I go to a new > band, I need to tap my key momentarily to get the tuner to tune to > the new frequency. Is this normal? Let me know as I thought the > tuner would remember the presets when QSY'ing to a new frequency? > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Hmmm ... I have the control cables ... K3-->KAT500/KAT500-->KPA500, I've trained my KAT500 for all 3 antennas on all the bands that each of them work on, and I run the KAT500 in MAN. All indications are that the KAT500 recalls the correct solution for the frequency when I QSY to a new frequency or band. I'm hardly an expert on the insides of Elecraft firmware, and I suppose it could be recalling on very first sign of RF and doing so very quickly so that I don't notice it, but I really don't think so. I do notice when changing bands that the K3 power control sometimes takes a dit or two to settle to the correct drive power ... often that first dit will blink the 600 [occasionally 700] watt LED. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Have you turned the feature on inside the K3?
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Hi Mike,
Does the KPA500 follow the band switching and display the correct band on its LCD? That would mean that the band data is getting through the cables. The KAT500 uses the AUXBUX (pin 2 in the 15-pin cable) to get the frequency information in addition to the band data pins. You might check your K3-KAT cable to see if that pin is OK. You might try going through all the KAT500 configuration screens to see if something looks amiss and then open the Operate screen. (In the KAT500 Utility). That screen is VERY useful to help you figure out what is going on. 73, Fred KE7X "The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation 2nd ed" "The Elecraft KX3 - Going for the summit" "The Elecraft KPA500 and KAT500 - the K-Line Dream Station" All available at www.elecraft.com KPA500 and KAT500 Quick Set Up Guide http://www.ke7x.com/home/k-line-introduction-and-set-up-guide > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of > Fred Jensen > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 2:57 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 operation? > > On 6/14/2014 12:11 PM, Mike Hagele AC6JA via Elecraft wrote: > > I am using a K3 and KPA500 with the KAT500. I also have the KAT500 > > mode set to MAN. I thought that the firmware was supposed to switch > > the tuner automatically when you switch bands? After I go to a new > > band, I need to tap my key momentarily to get the tuner to tune to > > the new frequency. Is this normal? Let me know as I thought the > tuner > > would remember the presets when QSY'ing to a new frequency? > > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > > Hmmm ... I have the control cables ... K3-->KAT500/KAT500-->KPA500, > I've trained my KAT500 for all 3 antennas on all the bands that each of > them work on, and I run the KAT500 in MAN. All indications are that > the > KAT500 recalls the correct solution for the frequency when I QSY to a > new frequency or band. > > I'm hardly an expert on the insides of Elecraft firmware, and I suppose > it could be recalling on very first sign of RF and doing so very > quickly so that I don't notice it, but I really don't think so. > > I do notice when changing bands that the K3 power control sometimes > takes a dit or two to settle to the correct drive power ... often that > first dit will blink the 600 [occasionally 700] watt LED. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 > - www.cqp.org > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Mike,
Are you using *anything* in addition to the basic cables between the K-line units? If so, try removing all the extras (includes the Keyline interrupter and the RCA keying cables if used), and then see if it works as expected. If it does, then begin putting the other things back in place to determine which part is causing the failure. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/14/2014 4:27 PM, Mike Hagele AC6JA via Elecraft wrote: > I am using the most current firmware versions in the K3, KAT500, and > KPA500. > I am also using the Elecraft auxilliary cables. > Not sure what else to check as to why the KAT500 won't update the tuner > preselects when QSY'ing? > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I have to transmit for a brief second after I switch bands for the tuner to
switch to the new setting. I'll usually just hear a click and it's done. But I thought I read somewhere that the tuner would update to the new settings when switching bands/frequencies automatically without having to transmit a carrier. I have the Elecraft auxilliary cables and the K3 and KPA500 bands track properly. Mike AC6JA In a message dated 6/14/2014 4:29:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: On 6/14/2014 12:11 PM, Mike Hagele AC6JA via Elecraft wrote: > I am using a K3 and KPA500 with the KAT500. I also have the KAT500 > mode set to MAN. I thought that the firmware was supposed to switch > the tuner automatically when you switch bands? After I go to a new > band, I need to tap my key momentarily to get the tuner to tune to > the new frequency. Is this normal? Let me know as I thought the > tuner would remember the presets when QSY'ing to a new frequency? > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Hmmm ... I have the control cables ... K3-->KAT500/KAT500-->KPA500, I've trained my KAT500 for all 3 antennas on all the bands that each of them work on, and I run the KAT500 in MAN. All indications are that the KAT500 recalls the correct solution for the frequency when I QSY to a new frequency or band. I'm hardly an expert on the insides of Elecraft firmware, and I suppose it could be recalling on very first sign of RF and doing so very quickly so that I don't notice it, but I really don't think so. I do notice when changing bands that the K3 power control sometimes takes a dit or two to settle to the correct drive power ... often that first dit will blink the 600 [occasionally 700] watt LED. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Have you verified that this automatic feature is enabled in your K3?
Here is what you need to do on the K3: To enable automatic KAT500 VFO tracking: - Locate the K3's CONFIG:KAT3 menu entry, - Tap '1' until you see "KAT500Y". (The other selection is "KAT500N", the default, which turns VFO tracking off.) 73, phil, K7PEH On Jun 14, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Mike Hagele AC6JA via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote: > I have to transmit for a brief second after I switch bands for the tuner to > switch to the new setting. I'll usually just hear a click and it's done. > But I thought I read somewhere that the tuner would update to the new > settings when switching bands/frequencies automatically without having to > transmit a carrier. > I have the Elecraft auxilliary cables and the K3 and KPA500 bands track > properly. > > Mike AC6JA > > > In a message dated 6/14/2014 4:29:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [hidden email] writes: > > On 6/14/2014 12:11 PM, Mike Hagele AC6JA via Elecraft wrote: >> I am using a K3 and KPA500 with the KAT500. I also have the KAT500 >> mode set to MAN. I thought that the firmware was supposed to switch >> the tuner automatically when you switch bands? After I go to a new >> band, I need to tap my key momentarily to get the tuner to tune to >> the new frequency. Is this normal? Let me know as I thought the >> tuner would remember the presets when QSY'ing to a new frequency? >> Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > > Hmmm ... I have the control cables ... K3-->KAT500/KAT500-->KPA500, > I've trained my KAT500 for all 3 antennas on all the bands that each of > them work on, and I run the KAT500 in MAN. All indications are that the > KAT500 recalls the correct solution for the frequency when I QSY to a > new frequency or band. > > I'm hardly an expert on the insides of Elecraft firmware, and I suppose > it could be recalling on very first sign of RF and doing so very quickly > so that I don't notice it, but I really don't think so. > > I do notice when changing bands that the K3 power control sometimes > takes a dit or two to settle to the correct drive power ... often that > first dit will blink the 600 [occasionally 700] watt LED. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 > - www.cqp.org > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Thank you Phil, K7PEH!
I must not have gotten the memo on that menu selection in the K3! Now all is working as it should. Thanks everyone for all the helpful replies. 73's Mike AC6JA In a message dated 6/14/2014 4:56:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: Have you verified that this automatic feature is enabled in your K3? Here is what you need to do on the K3: To enable automatic KAT500 VFO tracking: - Locate the K3's CONFIG:KAT3 menu entry, - Tap '1' until you see "KAT500Y". (The other selection is "KAT500N", the default, which turns VFO tracking off.) 73, phil, K7PEH On Jun 14, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Mike Hagele AC6JA via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote: > I have to transmit for a brief second after I switch bands for the tuner to > switch to the new setting. I'll usually just hear a click and it's done. > But I thought I read somewhere that the tuner would update to the new > settings when switching bands/frequencies automatically without having to > transmit a carrier. > I have the Elecraft auxilliary cables and the K3 and KPA500 bands track > properly. > > Mike AC6JA > > > In a message dated 6/14/2014 4:29:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [hidden email] writes: > > On 6/14/2014 12:11 PM, Mike Hagele AC6JA via Elecraft wrote: >> I am using a K3 and KPA500 with the KAT500. I also have the KAT500 >> mode set to MAN. I thought that the firmware was supposed to switch >> the tuner automatically when you switch bands? After I go to a new >> band, I need to tap my key momentarily to get the tuner to tune to >> the new frequency. Is this normal? Let me know as I thought the >> tuner would remember the presets when QSY'ing to a new frequency? >> Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > > Hmmm ... I have the control cables ... K3-->KAT500/KAT500-->KPA500, > I've trained my KAT500 for all 3 antennas on all the bands that each of > them work on, and I run the KAT500 in MAN. All indications are that > KAT500 recalls the correct solution for the frequency when I QSY to a > new frequency or band. > > I'm hardly an expert on the insides of Elecraft firmware, and I suppose > it could be recalling on very first sign of RF and doing so very quickly > so that I don't notice it, but I really don't think so. > > I do notice when changing bands that the K3 power control sometimes > takes a dit or two to settle to the correct drive power ... often that > first dit will blink the 600 [occasionally 700] watt LED. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 > - www.cqp.org > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Well, someone who actually knows about this needs to weigh in. I recall
a list thread about this and changes being made in the latest firmware to accommodate those who wanted the KAT500 to follow the current frequency of the K3, without making any RF. Apparently there was a downside ... KAT500 clicked some while tuning, which I guess annoyed some. I'm beyond half-deaf and I run my radios with headphones all the time so I don't hear anything from the KAT500 [or fans in the KPA500]. "Elecraft Standard Practice" in these situations seems to be, "Add a K3/KAT500 menu option to turn whatever on/off." Possibly that might be the answer here Not going to put money on it, but my guess is ... that's what they've done." 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 6/14/2014 4:44 PM, [hidden email] wrote: > I have to transmit for a brief second after I switch bands for the tuner > to switch to the new setting. I'll usually just hear a click and it's done. > But I thought I read somewhere that the tuner would update to the new > settings when switching bands/frequencies automatically without having > to transmit a carrier. > I have the Elecraft auxilliary cables and the K3 and KPA500 bands track > properly. > Mike AC6JA > In a message dated 6/14/2014 4:29:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [hidden email] writes: > > On 6/14/2014 12:11 PM, Mike Hagele AC6JA via Elecraft wrote: > > I am using a K3 and KPA500 with the KAT500. I also have the KAT500 > > mode set to MAN. I thought that the firmware was supposed to switch > > the tuner automatically when you switch bands? After I go to a new > > band, I need to tap my key momentarily to get the tuner to tune to > > the new frequency. Is this normal? Let me know as I thought the > > tuner would remember the presets when QSY'ing to a new frequency? > > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > > Hmmm ... I have the control cables ... K3-->KAT500/KAT500-->KPA500, > I've trained my KAT500 for all 3 antennas on all the bands that each of > them work on, and I run the KAT500 in MAN. All indications are that > the > KAT500 recalls the correct solution for the frequency when I QSY to a > new frequency or band. > > I'm hardly an expert on the insides of Elecraft firmware, and I suppose > it could be recalling on very first sign of RF and doing so very > quickly > so that I don't notice it, but I really don't think so. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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These instructions were in the release notes for the
firmware update that included the feature. So, if you downloaded the firmware, you should have been able to get the release notes; but, they are also found on the Elecraft web page for firmware software updates. 73, phil, K7PEH On Jun 14, 2014, at 5:01 PM, [hidden email] wrote: > Thank you Phil, K7PEH! > I must not have gotten the memo on that menu selection in the K3! > Now all is working as it should. > Thanks everyone for all the helpful replies. > 73's > > Mike AC6JA > > In a message dated 6/14/2014 4:56:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: > Have you verified that this automatic feature is enabled in your K3? > > Here is what you need to do on the K3: > > To enable automatic KAT500 VFO tracking: > - Locate the K3's CONFIG:KAT3 menu entry, > - Tap '1' until you see "KAT500Y". (The other selection is "KAT500N", the default, which turns VFO tracking off.) > > 73, phil, K7PEH > > > On Jun 14, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Mike Hagele AC6JA via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > I have to transmit for a brief second after I switch bands for the tuner to > > switch to the new setting. I'll usually just hear a click and it's done. > > But I thought I read somewhere that the tuner would update to the new > > settings when switching bands/frequencies automatically without having to > > transmit a carrier. > > I have the Elecraft auxilliary cables and the K3 and KPA500 bands track > > properly. > > > > Mike AC6JA > > > > > > In a message dated 6/14/2014 4:29:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > [hidden email] writes: > > > > On 6/14/2014 12:11 PM, Mike Hagele AC6JA via Elecraft wrote: > >> I am using a K3 and KPA500 with the KAT500. I also have the KAT500 > >> mode set to MAN. I thought that the firmware was supposed to switch > >> the tuner automatically when you switch bands? After I go to a new > >> band, I need to tap my key momentarily to get the tuner to tune to > >> the new frequency. Is this normal? Let me know as I thought the > >> tuner would remember the presets when QSY'ing to a new frequency? > >> Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > > > > Hmmm ... I have the control cables ... K3-->KAT500/KAT500-->KPA500, > > I've trained my KAT500 for all 3 antennas on all the bands that each of > > them work on, and I run the KAT500 in MAN. All indications are that the > > KAT500 recalls the correct solution for the frequency when I QSY to a > > new frequency or band. > > > > I'm hardly an expert on the insides of Elecraft firmware, and I suppose > > it could be recalling on very first sign of RF and doing so very quickly > > so that I don't notice it, but I really don't think so. > > > > I do notice when changing bands that the K3 power control sometimes > > takes a dit or two to settle to the correct drive power ... often that > > first dit will blink the 600 [occasionally 700] watt LED. > > > > 73, > > > > Fred K6DGW > > - Northern California Contest Club > > - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 > > - www.cqp.org > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Phil,
Who reads release notes? :-) Now I need to go check my set up and see if I have it right! Thanks for calling this to my (our!) attention. 73, Phil W7OX On 6/14/14, 5:18 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: > These instructions were in the release notes for the > firmware update that included the feature. > > So, if you downloaded the firmware, you should have > been able to get the release notes; but, they are also > found on the Elecraft web page for firmware software > updates. > > 73, phil, K7PEH > > > On Jun 14, 2014, at 5:01 PM, [hidden email] wrote: > >> Thank you Phil, K7PEH! >> I must not have gotten the memo on that menu selection in the K3! >> Now all is working as it should. >> Thanks everyone for all the helpful replies. >> 73's >> >> Mike AC6JA >> >> In a message dated 6/14/2014 4:56:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: >> Have you verified that this automatic feature is enabled in your K3? >> >> Here is what you need to do on the K3: >> >> To enable automatic KAT500 VFO tracking: >> - Locate the K3's CONFIG:KAT3 menu entry, >> - Tap '1' until you see "KAT500Y". (The other selection is "KAT500N", the default, which turns VFO tracking off.) >> >> 73, phil, K7PEH >> >> >> On Jun 14, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Mike Hagele AC6JA via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> I have to transmit for a brief second after I switch bands for the tuner to >>> switch to the new setting. I'll usually just hear a click and it's done. >>> But I thought I read somewhere that the tuner would update to the new >>> settings when switching bands/frequencies automatically without having to >>> transmit a carrier. >>> I have the Elecraft auxilliary cables and the K3 and KPA500 bands track >>> properly. >>> >>> Mike AC6JA >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 6/14/2014 4:29:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>> [hidden email] writes: >>> >>> On 6/14/2014 12:11 PM, Mike Hagele AC6JA via Elecraft wrote: >>>> I am using a K3 and KPA500 with the KAT500. I also have the KAT500 >>>> mode set to MAN. I thought that the firmware was supposed to switch >>>> the tuner automatically when you switch bands? After I go to a new >>>> band, I need to tap my key momentarily to get the tuner to tune to >>>> the new frequency. Is this normal? Let me know as I thought the >>>> tuner would remember the presets when QSY'ing to a new frequency? >>>> Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. >>> Hmmm ... I have the control cables ... K3-->KAT500/KAT500-->KPA500, >>> I've trained my KAT500 for all 3 antennas on all the bands that each of >>> them work on, and I run the KAT500 in MAN. All indications are that the >>> KAT500 recalls the correct solution for the frequency when I QSY to a >>> new frequency or band. >>> >>> I'm hardly an expert on the insides of Elecraft firmware, and I suppose >>> it could be recalling on very first sign of RF and doing so very quickly >>> so that I don't notice it, but I really don't think so. >>> >>> I do notice when changing bands that the K3 power control sometimes >>> takes a dit or two to settle to the correct drive power ... often that >>> first dit will blink the 600 [occasionally 700] watt LED. >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Fred K6DGW >>> - Northern California Contest Club >>> - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 >>> - www.cqp.org ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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If the ACC cable is working as expected, the KAT500 and KPA500 will both bandswitch using the 4 band data lines from the K3. The KAT500 utility operate page shows the band the KAT500 is on and it should change as you change K3 bands. In addition, relatively new K3 and KAT500 firmware can work together to bandswitch and select ATU memories as the K3 is tuned across the band. This uses the AUXBUS, one of the wires in that 15-pin ACC cable. From your description, it sounds like the band line mechanism may not be working. I'd try checking the cables and look for additional devices that may be loading the band lines. Some, including me, have found that swapping the cables can help. There aren't KAT500 configuration options to choose band line band switching. It's always on. There is a K3 menu option to choose the AUXBUS mechanism, described in K3 firmware release notes.
73 de Dick, K6KR > On Jun 14, 2014, at 16:44, Mike Hagele AC6JA via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I have to transmit for a brief second after I switch bands for the tuner to > switch to the new setting. I'll usually just hear a click and it's done. > But I thought I read somewhere that the tuner would update to the new > settings when switching bands/frequencies automatically without having to > transmit a carrier. > I have the Elecraft auxilliary cables and the K3 and KPA500 bands track > properly. > > Mike AC6JA > > > In a message dated 6/14/2014 4:29:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [hidden email] writes: > >> On 6/14/2014 12:11 PM, Mike Hagele AC6JA via Elecraft wrote: >> I am using a K3 and KPA500 with the KAT500. I also have the KAT500 >> mode set to MAN. I thought that the firmware was supposed to switch >> the tuner automatically when you switch bands? After I go to a new >> band, I need to tap my key momentarily to get the tuner to tune to >> the new frequency. Is this normal? Let me know as I thought the >> tuner would remember the presets when QSY'ing to a new frequency? >> Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > > Hmmm ... I have the control cables ... K3-->KAT500/KAT500-->KPA500, > I've trained my KAT500 for all 3 antennas on all the bands that each of > them work on, and I run the KAT500 in MAN. All indications are that the > KAT500 recalls the correct solution for the frequency when I QSY to a > new frequency or band. > > I'm hardly an expert on the insides of Elecraft firmware, and I suppose > it could be recalling on very first sign of RF and doing so very quickly > so that I don't notice it, but I really don't think so. > > I do notice when changing bands that the K3 power control sometimes > takes a dit or two to settle to the correct drive power ... often that > first dit will blink the 600 [occasionally 700] watt LED. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 > - www.cqp.org > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On Jun 14, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote: > Phil, > > Who reads release notes? :-) > Actually, I always read the release notes, you learn things that often are never written up anywhere else. Or, as in this case, when release notes also double as documentation for a new function -- sort of a mini pre-release of formal documentation to be updated. I also always read the Preface of books, all books. On some technical books, I peruse the index because often times there are little jewels of information hidden away in the index. An index is not just a list of words referenced in the book -- it contains nifty cross-references and often times other terms that of related information. And, when I read technical books (usually Physics and Math) I study the background of the author. Sometimes, if Physics, I am reading some of their published papers (I am a member of APS primarily to gain access to physics research papers). Yes, I do read release notes and many times I even print them out and include in my notebook collection of things about the Elecraft rigs. 73, phil, K7PEH P.S. I usually do not read the actual user documentation before trying out things though. I need to get better at that. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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If the commentary announcing new firmware suggests a new mode, feature or setting, I'll read the release notes. Most updates are tweaks, not new items, but I'm grateful for all of them.
I generally try to NOT read the user documentation (for the first day or so) and will see how far I can get by poking around the program or device. That is one of my personal 'tests' on the user interface, which should make complex things, simple to the user. However, in the case of the K line, eventually reading the documentation pays off because of the sheer complexity and number of choices available for personal preferences. Elecraft still manages to keep things simple, bravo! 73, Rick, WA6NHC iPad = small keypad = typos = sorry ;-) > On Jun 14, 2014, at 9:35 PM, Phil Hystad <[hidden email]> wrote: > > P.S. I usually do not read the actual user documentation before trying out things though. I need to get better at that. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I just checked by KAT3 setting and it is in byp. That said, I am
reluctant to make any changes, as the K-Line is functioning very well and I don't wish to upset the apple cart. Bill W2BLC K-Line ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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It was a joke, son: Didn't you see the smiley, Phil?
And regarding the situation in question: /To enable automatic KAT500 VFO tracking: - Locate the K3's CONFIG:KAT3 menu entry, - Tap '1' until you see "KAT500Y". (The other selection is "KAT500N", the default, which turns VFO tracking off.)/ I did check and my K3 was configured correctly. There are so many configuration settings that it was worth a check, though my system has been functioning just fine. 73, Phil On 6/14/14, 9:35 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: > On Jun 14, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Phil, >> >> Who reads release notes? :-) >> > Actually, I always read the release notes, you learn things that often are never written up anywhere else. Or, as in this case, when release notes also double as documentation for a new function -- sort of a mini pre-release of formal documentation to be updated. > > I also always read the Preface of books, all books. On some technical books, I peruse the index because often times there are little jewels of information hidden away in the index. An index is not just a list of words referenced in the book -- it contains nifty cross-references and often times other terms that of related information. > > And, when I read technical books (usually Physics and Math) I study the background of the author. Sometimes, if Physics, I am reading some of their published papers (I am a member of APS primarily to gain access to physics research papers). > > Yes, I do read release notes and many times I even print them out and include in my notebook collection of things about the Elecraft rigs. > > 73, phil, K7PEH > > P.S. I usually do not read the actual user documentation before trying out things though. I need to get better at that. > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Yes, I did see the smiley and knew you were making a joke.
But, it was a valid rhetorical question since there are obviously a number of people who do not always read the release notes. - phil from Kirkland On Jun 15, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote: > It was a joke, son: Didn't you see the smiley, Phil? > > And regarding the situation in question: > To enable automatic KAT500 VFO tracking: > - Locate the K3's CONFIG:KAT3 menu entry, > - Tap '1' until you see "KAT500Y". (The other selection is "KAT500N", the default, which turns VFO tracking off.) > I did check and my K3 was configured correctly. There are so many configuration settings that it was worth a check, though my system has been functioning just fine. > > 73, Phil > > On 6/14/14, 9:35 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: >> On Jun 14, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> Phil, >>> >>> Who reads release notes? :-) >>> >> Actually, I always read the release notes, you learn things that often are never written up anywhere else. Or, as in this case, when release notes also double as documentation for a new function -- sort of a mini pre-release of formal documentation to be updated. >> >> I also always read the Preface of books, all books. On some technical books, I peruse the index because often times there are little jewels of information hidden away in the index. An index is not just a list of words referenced in the book -- it contains nifty cross-references and often times other terms that of related information. >> >> And, when I read technical books (usually Physics and Math) I study the background of the author. Sometimes, if Physics, I am reading some of their published papers (I am a member of APS primarily to gain access to physics research papers). >> >> Yes, I do read release notes and many times I even print them out and include in my notebook collection of things about the Elecraft rigs. >> >> 73, phil, K7PEH >> >> P.S. I usually do not read the actual user documentation before trying out things though. I need to get better at that. >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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