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I have competed K# build #4354 this afternoon. I have a question about the operation or capabilities of the KDVR. Is it possible to playback audio from a received station, back over the air to that station?
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The answer is YES.
The first paragrasph of the KDVR3 Installation manual tells it all -"The KDVR3 Digital Voice Recorder allows you to prerecord voice messages to be transmitted and to record received audio." The details are in the K3 Ownr's manual and the KDVR3 Installation instructions. 73, Don W3FPR N8XPQ wrote: > I have competed K# build #4354 this afternoon. I have a question about the > operation or capabilities of the KDVR. Is it possible to playback audio from > a received station, back over the air to that station? > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I figured it out. Wow what a neat toy!
Thanks for the help, Mike N8XPQ |
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> >I have competed K# build #4354 this afternoon. I have a question about the >operation or capabilities of the KDVR. Is it possible to playback audio from >a received station, back over the air to that station? Yes, it is, but it's bit awkward at the moment particularly if you use a speaker and do not normally monitor your outgoing speech. We are told that a forthcoming K3 software release will enable the monitor to be enabled while playing back a received station over the KDVR. 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK ------ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hi David A simple way of erasing recorded messages would be nice. Blanking the entire message bank would also help. A way of resetting the recorder to the beginning would also make life easy when playing back recordings. You always end up with mess of different recordings that requires care and guessing when you are playing them back. I marvel at how well my simple Sony DVR works, I wish it was in the K3. I could then save my recordings for future reference. John --- On Sat, 6/5/10, David Pratt <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: David Pratt <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KDVR > To: "N8XPQ" <[hidden email]> > Cc: [hidden email] > Date: Saturday, June 5, 2010, 11:38 PM > In a recent message, N8XPQ <[hidden email]> > wrote ... > > > >I have competed K# build #4354 this afternoon. I have a > question about the > >operation or capabilities of the KDVR. Is it possible > to playback audio from > >a received station, back over the air to that station? > > Yes, it is, but it's bit awkward at the moment particularly > if you use a > speaker and do not normally monitor your outgoing > speech. We are told > that a forthcoming K3 software release will enable the > monitor to be > enabled while playing back a received station over the > KDVR. > > 73 > -- > David G4DMP > Leeds, England, UK > ------ > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hmmm,
Playing back another stations audio seems to be a common request, however, the recording when it is played back is not the "true" audio being transmitted by the originating station so therefore it becomes kiinda useless. Recording and playing multiple "messages" is possible using software such as HRD and N1MM Logger if that's any help? Yep, would be kinda nice to have a "whoops" key to erase individual and M1-M4 recordings. Oh well, it is still the best DVR I have had to play with... YMMV Gary On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 5:42 PM, juergen <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hi David > > A simple way of erasing recorded messages would be nice. Blanking the entire message bank would also help. > > A way of resetting the recorder to the beginning would also make life easy when playing back recordings. You always end up with mess of different recordings that requires care and guessing when you are playing them back. > > I marvel at how well my simple Sony DVR works, I wish it was in the K3. I could then save my recordings for future reference. > > John > > > --- On Sat, 6/5/10, David Pratt <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> From: David Pratt <[hidden email]> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KDVR >> To: "N8XPQ" <[hidden email]> >> Cc: [hidden email] >> Date: Saturday, June 5, 2010, 11:38 PM >> In a recent message, N8XPQ <[hidden email]> >> wrote ... >> > >> >I have competed K# build #4354 this afternoon. I have a >> question about the >> >operation or capabilities of the KDVR. Is it possible >> to playback audio from >> >a received station, back over the air to that station? >> >> Yes, it is, but it's bit awkward at the moment particularly >> if you use a >> speaker and do not normally monitor your outgoing >> speech. We are told >> that a forthcoming K3 software release will enable the >> monitor to be >> enabled while playing back a received station over the >> KDVR. >> >> 73 >> -- >> David G4DMP >> Leeds, England, UK >> ------ >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Well I wouldn't say useless. I'm sure no recording is *exactly* like the
original but I have often played back another station's transmission (eg to help them set up their audio to let them know how they sound over a long distance), and other people listening (eg in the same net) usually say the KDVR3 is pretty close. I believe it's certainly close enough to be of use. Another way of handling it of course is to play the KDVR recording into a PC and email it but that's slower and less immediate. Like you Gary I find the KDVR3 very good. All it needs to make it perfect in my view is the monitor tweak recently (and regularly) mentioned on the list and yes I too would support a way of erasing the AF REC loop. You can already erase M1-4 memories individually. 73 to all, Geoff G3UCK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Gregory" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KDVR Hmmm, Playing back another stations audio seems to be a common request, however, the recording when it is played back is not the "true" audio being transmitted by the originating station so therefore it becomes kiinda useless. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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> Well I wouldn't say useless. I'm sure no recording is
> *exactly* like the > original but I have often played back another station's > transmission (eg to > help them set up their audio to let them know how they > sound over a long > distance), and other people listening (eg in the same > net) usually say the > KDVR3 is pretty close. I believe it's certainly close > enough to be of use. > Another way of handling it of course is to play the KDVR > recording into a PC > and email it but that's slower and less immediate. I have a problem with that idea. When I listen to the other station I hear his audio colored by everything between his mouth and my ear. That would include his mic, his audio system and transmitter, propagation effects like multipath or noise, my receiver characteristics, my speaker or headphones, and my hearing. When I record him and play it back the audio is colored by his mic, his audio system and transmitter, propagation effects like multipath or noise to me, my receiver characteristics, my recorder, my transmitter audio characteristics, propagation effects again but back to him, his entire receiver system, his speaker or headphones, and his hearing. I often shake my head in disbelief when I witness audio playbacks as a disinterested third party, because what I hear that is being recorded is rarely like what I hear being played back as an example of how the fellow sounds. It isn't what the first party sounds like, it is what the first party sounds like after being run in and out through a different receiver and different transmitter. The recorder is the least of the worries. Which leads me to a question....... In the K3, is the DVR playback run out through the transmitter on a wide bandwidth and perfectly flat so the playback is at least a reproduction of what the receiver wound up creating, or is the playback run though the equalizer at the custom settings of the K3 transmitter's owner? To me, this is one of the silliest ways to adjust audio. An on-site receiver with wide bandwidth and a good set of headphones (or local recorder) is far more meaningful. One of the most annoying things to me is someone recording me and, with his S3 signal from a wet noodle antenna, saying "this is how good you sound here". :-) 73 Tom ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Tom,
Exactly my thoughts. I too have witnessed these types of QSO's and I came to the same conclusion that what I heard from the station playing back a recorded transmission did not sound anywhere close to what I heard "live". Oh well, to each his/her own eh? But I still would like to see the Monitor "mute" option come to pass. 73's Gary On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Tom W8JI <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Well I wouldn't say useless. I'm sure no recording is *exactly* like the >> original but I have often played back another station's transmission (eg >> to >> help them set up their audio to let them know how they sound over a long >> distance), and other people listening (eg in the same net) usually say >> the >> KDVR3 is pretty close. I believe it's certainly close enough to be of use. >> Another way of handling it of course is to play the KDVR recording into a >> PC >> and email it but that's slower and less immediate. > > I have a problem with that idea. > > When I listen to the other station I hear his audio colored by everything > between his mouth and my ear. That would include his mic, his audio system > and transmitter, propagation effects like multipath or noise, my receiver > characteristics, my speaker or headphones, and my hearing. > > When I record him and play it back the audio is colored by his mic, his > audio system and transmitter, propagation effects like multipath or noise to > me, my receiver characteristics, my recorder, my transmitter audio > characteristics, propagation effects again but back to him, his entire > receiver system, his speaker or headphones, and his hearing. > > I often shake my head in disbelief when I witness audio playbacks as a > disinterested third party, because what I hear that is being recorded is > rarely like what I hear being played back as an example of how the fellow > sounds. It isn't what the first party sounds like, it is what the first > party sounds like after being run in and out through a different receiver > and different transmitter. The recorder is the least of the worries. > > Which leads me to a question....... > > In the K3, is the DVR playback run out through the transmitter on a wide > bandwidth and perfectly flat so the playback is at least a reproduction of > what the receiver wound up creating, or is the playback run though the > equalizer at the custom settings of the K3 transmitter's owner? > > To me, this is one of the silliest ways to adjust audio. An on-site receiver > with wide bandwidth and a good set of headphones (or local recorder) is far > more meaningful. > > One of the most annoying things to me is someone recording me and, with his > S3 signal from a wet noodle antenna, saying "this is how good you sound > here". > :-) > > 73 Tom > -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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