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KG5EJU

KPA1000

Very new to Elecraft, just own a W2, but looking long at the KPA500. Heard a couple rumors that a 1000 Watt unit was coming, but with separate power supply.

Any truth to this?

Thanks.

- Dan
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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: KPA1000

Dan,

No truth whatsoever as far as I know.
There were prototypes for an 800 watt and a 1500 watt amplifier shown
many years ago, but those served as 'learning lessons' for the KPA500.
The KPA500 will do 600 to 700 watts with ease, weighs only 26 pounds,
and integrates with the K3 making the K3 appear to be a 500 watts
transceiver. That is why it is the choice for many DXpeditions - light
weight and a decent (and usable) power level.
My personal opinion is that the 500 watt level was chosen because it
better suits the worldwide market than a higher powered amplifier, and
is only 3 db down from a 1000 watt amp - only half an s-unit on the
receiving end.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/23/2014 10:15 PM, KG5EJU wrote:
> Very new to Elecraft, just own a W2, but looking long at the KPA500. Heard a couple rumors that a 1000 Watt unit was coming, but with separate power supply.
>
> Any truth to this?
>
>

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k6dgw

Re: KPA1000

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I wouldn't be holding my breath Dan. At one time, quite awhile ago,
there were rumors of a KPA800 and/or KPA1500, and I believe one or more
prototypes were built. A good friend, one of the Elecraft KPA500
engineers, mentioned that those prototypes fed a lot of the design into
the 500, possibly why the 500 will run forever on RTTY at 500+ watts.
I'm told the field testers were instructed to run them with all bars lit.

There are a lot of good 1.0, 1.2, and 1.5 KW HF amps out there, this may
be a market Elecraft has decided to pass up. I don't blame them.

My KPA500 is solid as a rock. I had a 1200 W amp before, I ran it at
500 W for a year just to see if I could tell the difference, I couldn't,
N6RK now has my old amp, I'm a happy ham. If I run the temp up to 70C,
[that would be constant CQ's in a RTTY contest] the fans kick in, my
wife says "they're noticeable." I'm about 3/4 deaf, I always operate
with headphones, and I don't notice it. YMMV I've never had them come
on high on CW or SSB.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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On 12/23/2014 7:15 PM, KG5EJU wrote:
> Very new to Elecraft, just own a W2, but looking long at the KPA500.
> Heard a couple rumors that a 1000 Watt unit was coming, but with
> separate power supply.
>
> Any truth to this?
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Dan

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Re: KPA1000

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On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:15 PM, KG5EJU <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Very new to Elecraft, just own a W2, but looking long at the KPA500. Heard a couple rumors that a 1000 Watt unit was coming….

Not. Keep those ideas coming :)

73,
Wayne
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k1uo-Larry

Re: KPA1000

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On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:15 PM, KG5EJU <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Very new to Elecraft, just own a W2, but looking long at the KPA500. Heard a
> couple rumors that a 1000 Watt unit was coming….
Not. Keep those ideas coming :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR
Just buy their new kpa ‘COMBINER’ and add a second KPA500 and you got your KPA1000! Merry Christmas I say...
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Raymond Sills

Re: KPA1000

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Another consideration for a KPA1000, would be the almost certain need
for 220V power. Fine and dandy if it's already in the shack, but
certainly an extra cost. Sure, you can run a 1KW room heater from
110V... so what if the line voltage sags to 100V on that circuit.. the
heater will just deliver a bit less heat. Or my vacuum cleaner (which
draws 12 A) works fine on about 110V. But, a linear amp will want to
see a pretty stiff power supply to maintain linearity.

500 W is pretty much OK on household 110 V branch circuits. And, as
others have pointed out... the whole amp with power supply fits into a
K3 sized case. Pretty slick engineering, I say. But, I'm a QRP guys,
so all this discussion is a theoretical item for me. :)

73 de Ray
K2ULR
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N2TK

Re: KPA1000

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And Larry, will the combiner handle two or three KPA500's? :-)
Merry Christmas
N2TK, Tony

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On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:15 PM, KG5EJU <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Very new to Elecraft, just own a W2, but looking long at the KPA500.
> Heard a couple rumors that a 1000 Watt unit was coming….
Not. Keep those ideas coming :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR
Just buy their new kpa ‘COMBINER’ and add a second KPA500 and you got your KPA1000! Merry Christmas I say...
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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: KPA1000

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> Sure, you can run a 1KW room heater from 110V... so what if the line
> voltage sags to 100V on that circuit.. the heater will just deliver a
> bit less heat.

If the voltage sags to 100V you are likely to cause a serious fire.
A 1 KW heater will draw roughly 10A ... 10A at 20 to 25V (the drop
in the lines/outlet/etc.) represents 200 - 250W dissipated in a closed
space behind your walls, typically close to combustible studs and
drywall.

If you see significant voltage drops on a circuit like that, you had
better get it fixed promptly or hope your homeowners insurance and
smoke detectors are both working 110%.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2014-12-24 11:00 AM, Ray Sills wrote:

> Another consideration for a KPA1000, would be the almost certain need
> for 220V power. Fine and dandy if it's already in the shack, but
> certainly an extra cost. Sure, you can run a 1KW room heater from
> 110V... so what if the line voltage sags to 100V on that circuit.. the
> heater will just deliver a bit less heat. Or my vacuum cleaner (which
> draws 12 A) works fine on about 110V. But, a linear amp will want to
> see a pretty stiff power supply to maintain linearity.
>
> 500 W is pretty much OK on household 110 V branch circuits. And, as
> others have pointed out... the whole amp with power supply fits into a
> K3 sized case. Pretty slick engineering, I say. But, I'm a QRP guys,
> so all this discussion is a theoretical item for me. :)
>
> 73 de Ray
> K2ULR
> KX3 #211
> ARL sixty one
>
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Phil Hystad-3

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I think a good hamfest Elecraft demo would be 8 KPA500s combined together with multiple (and some big) combiners/splitters. Or, maybe 16 or 32 KPA500s.

> On Dec 24, 2014, at 8:33 AM, N2TK, Tony <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> And Larry, will the combiner handle two or three KPA500's? :-)
> Merry Christmas
> N2TK, Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Larry - K1UO
> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:16 AM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1000
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> On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:15 PM, KG5EJU <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Very new to Elecraft, just own a W2, but looking long at the KPA500.
>> Heard a couple rumors that a 1000 Watt unit was coming….
> Not. Keep those ideas coming :)
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> Just buy their new kpa ‘COMBINER’ and add a second KPA500 and you got your KPA1000! Merry Christmas I say...
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Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ

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Must be a slow news day!

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On 12/24/2014 9:14 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:

> I think a good hamfest Elecraft demo would be 8 KPA500s combined together with multiple (and some big) combiners/splitters. Or, maybe 16 or 32 KPA500s.
>
>
>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 8:33 AM, N2TK, Tony <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> And Larry, will the combiner handle two or three KPA500's? :-)
>> Merry Christmas
>> N2TK, Tony
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Larry - K1UO
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:16 AM
>> To: Elecraft Reflector
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1000
>>
>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:15 PM, KG5EJU <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Very new to Elecraft, just own a W2, but looking long at the KPA500.
>>> Heard a couple rumors that a 1000 Watt unit was coming….
>> Not. Keep those ideas coming :)
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> Just buy their new kpa ‘COMBINER’ and add a second KPA500 and you got your KPA1000! Merry Christmas I say...
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Phil Wheeler-2

Re: KPA1000

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The need for 220 VAC is a very good point, Ray.
Operating from 110 VAC has always been a
constraint for me, and likely for many of us. Of
course, I'm less "serious" than some hams -- and
since the mid 90s QRP has been a focus of mine.

I sure do like having the KPA/KAT500 duo and the
ability to kick it on line by simply pressing the
Operate button. My last amp, an AL-811H, was far
more work to use and got little use as a result.

73, Phil W7OX

On 12/24/14 8:00 AM, Ray Sills wrote:

> Another consideration for a KPA1000, would be
> the almost certain need for 220V power. Fine
> and dandy if it's already in the shack, but
> certainly an extra cost. Sure, you can run a
> 1KW room heater from 110V... so what if the line
> voltage sags to 100V on that circuit.. the
> heater will just deliver a bit less heat. Or my
> vacuum cleaner (which draws 12 A) works fine on
> about 110V. But, a linear amp will want to see
> a pretty stiff power supply to maintain linearity.
>
> 500 W is pretty much OK on household 110 V
> branch circuits. And, as others have pointed
> out... the whole amp with power supply fits into
> a K3 sized case. Pretty slick engineering, I
> say. But, I'm a QRP guys, so all this
> discussion is a theoretical item for me. :)
>
> 73 de Ray
> K2ULR
> KX3 #211
> ARL sixty one

Phil Wheeler-2

Re: KPA1000

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Hey, Phil -- sounds like you've already started on
the eggnog :-)

Merry Christmas!

Phil W7OX

On 12/24/14 9:14 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:

Merv Schweigert

Re: KPA1000

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When I bought this property, it was a AM broadcast station, it had a
couple Harris
transmitters, one had 52 - 1 KW "amps" in it for 50KW worth of power,
Floor to ceiling stacks of KPA500s would work, but I also had 600 amp
440 3 phase
power lines.

73 Merv K9FD/KH6

Phil Hystad-3

Re: KPA1000

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No, I really hate eggnog. But, I think I have had one too many cups of coffee this morning. Plus, spending time to derive the Dirac Equation just for the fun of it. Thus, thinking in terms of infinite dimensional Hilbert Spaces and convergence. Thus, the total output power possible of N KPA500s taken to the limit as N increases to near infinity.

> On Dec 24, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hey, Phil -- sounds like you've already started on the eggnog :-)
>
> Merry Christmas!
>
> Phil W7OX
>
> On 12/24/14 9:14 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
>> I think a good hamfest Elecraft demo would be 8 KPA500s combined together with multiple (and some big) combiners/splitters. Or, maybe 16 or 32 KPA500s.
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 8:33 AM, N2TK, Tony <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> And Larry, will the combiner handle two or three KPA500's? :-)
>>> Merry Christmas
>>> N2TK, Tony
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Larry - K1UO
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:16 AM
>>> To: Elecraft Reflector
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1000
>>>
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:15 PM, KG5EJU <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Very new to Elecraft, just own a W2, but looking long at the KPA500.
>>>> Heard a couple rumors that a 1000 Watt unit was coming….
>>> Not. Keep those ideas coming :)
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>> Just buy their new kpa ‘COMBINER’ and add a second KPA500 and you got your KPA1000! Merry Christmas I say...
>
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Byron Servies

Re: KPA1000

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Or some really good eggnog is being passed around ;)

73, Byron N6NUL

> On Dec 24, 2014, at 09:25, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Must be a slow news day!
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>> On 12/24/2014 9:14 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
>> I think a good hamfest Elecraft demo would be 8 KPA500s combined together with multiple (and some big) combiners/splitters. Or, maybe 16 or 32 KPA500s.
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Maybe just some good scotch. ...why ruin it with eggnog

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</div>Or some really good eggnog is being passed around ;)

73, Byron N6NUL

> On Dec 24, 2014, at 09:25, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Must be a slow news day!
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>> On 12/24/2014 9:14 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
>> I think a good hamfest Elecraft demo would be 8 KPA500s combined together with multiple (and some big) combiners/splitters. Or, maybe 16 or 32 KPA500s.
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N2TK

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Me thinkst those are not sugar plums dancing around in our heads.
Time to work on wrapping presents and play family guy (pun intended).
Everyone have a Merry Christmas and a Happy Holiday.
N2TK, Tony

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1000

Or some really good eggnog is being passed around ;)

73, Byron N6NUL

> On Dec 24, 2014, at 09:25, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
<[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Must be a slow news day!
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>> On 12/24/2014 9:14 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
>> I think a good hamfest Elecraft demo would be 8 KPA500s combined together
with multiple (and some big) combiners/splitters. Or, maybe 16 or 32
KPA500s.

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>>>> Or some really good eggnog is being passed around ;) <<<
Hey Bryon, don't be selfish. Who is it that got the Really Good EGGNOG passing around?!!!
((((73)))) Milverton.

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Or some really good eggnog is being passed around ;)

73, Byron N6NUL

> On Dec 24, 2014, at 09:25, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Must be a slow news day!
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>> On 12/24/2014 9:14 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
>> I think a good hamfest Elecraft demo would be 8 KPA500s combined together with multiple (and some big) combiners/splitters. Or, maybe 16 or 32 KPA500s.
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Charlie T, K3ICH

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Put them in an enclosed (fan cooled) box with a 6AQ5 mounted on top.

And I have YET to have my afternoon egg nog ( Turkey Hill w/ Jack Daniels).
OOOHHHH Yeah.

73 es 58 Chas
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> Must be a slow news day!
>
> Eric
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> On 12/24/2014 9:14 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
>> I think a good hamfest Elecraft demo would be 8 KPA500s combined together
>> with multiple (and some big) combiners/splitters. Or, maybe 16 or 32
>> KPA500s.
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 8:33 AM, N2TK, Tony <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> And Larry, will the combiner handle two or three KPA500's? :-)
>>> Merry Christmas
>>> N2TK, Tony
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
>>> Larry - K1UO
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 10:16 AM
>>> To: Elecraft Reflector
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1000
>>>
>>> On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:15 PM, KG5EJU <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Very new to Elecraft, just own a W2, but looking long at the KPA500.
>>>> Heard a couple rumors that a 1000 Watt unit was coming….
>>> Not. Keep those ideas coming :)
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>> Just buy their new kpa ‘COMBINER’ and add a second KPA500 and you got
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