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Eric/Wayne...thank you, thank you, thank you!!!! Please put my name on the
list. 73, Greg-N4CC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Well at least they have one out of 2 new products introduced. Next up, the HF packer amp. Saving that reveal for Dayton.
72 Myron WV0H Printed On Recycled Data From: Greg Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 6:38 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Eric/Wayne...thank you, thank you, thank you!!!! Please put my name on the list. 73, Greg-N4CC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Will do, Greg.
Thanks & 73, Wayne N6KR > On Apr 21, 2017, at 5:37 AM, Greg <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Eric/Wayne...thank you, thank you, thank you!!!! Please put my name on the > list. 73, Greg-N4CC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Well, I was never advocating for an Elecraft legal limit amp, so I
don't have a dog in this fight, but at $6K, it takes the amp out of the hobby category. I know things are expensive today, but this price point will be very self limiting. Good luck and I hope you sell a lot of them.. Hunter Ellington, K0GFY Sent using Hushmail On 4/21/2017 at 8:25 AM, [hidden email] wrote:Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to [hidden email] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [hidden email] You can reach the person managing the list at [hidden email] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Additional KPA1500 amplifier information (James F. Boehner MD) 2. Re: Additional KPA1500 amplifier information (Wayne Burdick) 3. Re: [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply (Wes Stewart) 4. Re: Additional KPA1500 amplifier information (Eric Swartz) 5. Re: Ground rod through concrete thread? (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) 6. Re: [K3] WTB: KAT500 (Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS) 7. Re: [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply (Ken K6MR) 8. KPA-1500: Gain Mod when FCC Lifts 15db Rule (Richard Thorne) 9. New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply ([hidden email]) 10. Elecraft insurance rate? (Mike Parkes) 11. Re: KX3 tuner getting stuck at 25.4:1 SWR (Fred Moore) 12. [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply ([hidden email]) 13. Re: KX3 tuner getting stuck at 25.4:1 SWR (Don Wilhelm) 14. Re: Additional KPA1500 amplifier information (charlie carroll) 15. KPA1500 (Greg) 16. Re: KPA1500 ([hidden email]) 17. Re: [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply (Wes Stewart) 18. Re: [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply (David Bunte) 19. Re: [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply (brian) 20. Re: Additional KPA1500 amplifier information (Carl Yaffey1) 21. Re: [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply (Jim Miller) 22. Re: Additional KPA1500 amplifier information (Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS) 23. Re: Additional KPA1500 amplifier information (Dave New, N8SBE) 24. Re: Additional KPA1500 amplifier information (Wayne Burdick) 25. Re: Additional KPA1500 amplifier information (Wayne Burdick) 26. Re: Additional KPA1500 amplifier information (Wayne Burdick) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 01:11:27 -0400 From: "James F. Boehner MD" To: "'Wayne Burdick'" , "'Elecraft Reflector'" Cc: , Subject: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" LDMOS technology? '73 de JIM N2ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 12:31 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Cc: [hidden email]; [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information Updated FAQ on the KPA1500: http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500%20FAQ%20rev%20A1b.pdf High-resolution front panel photo: http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500_cropped_hi.jpg High-resolution rear panel photo: http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500_back_rgb_hi.jpg KPA1500 web page: http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500.htm * * * Wayne N6KR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:14:50 -0700 From: Wayne Burdick To: "James F. Boehner MD" Cc: Elecraft Reflector , [hidden email], [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yup. 50 volt devices with plenty of thermal margin. Wayne N6KR > On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:11 PM, James F. Boehner MD wrote: > > LDMOS technology? > > > '73 de JIM N2ZZ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:18:59 -0700 From: Wes Stewart To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Not enough full power tuner range. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:24:41 -0700 From: Eric Swartz To: "James F. Boehner MD" Cc: Wayne Burdick , Elecraft Reflector , [hidden email], [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Yes. 2 devices. Eric *elecraft.com * On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 10:11 PM, James F. Boehner MD via Elecraft < [hidden email]> wrote: > LDMOS technology? > > > '73 de JIM N2ZZ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of > Wayne > Burdick > Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 12:31 AM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Cc: [hidden email]; [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information > > Updated FAQ on the KPA1500: > > http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500%20FAQ%20rev%20A1b.pdf > > High-resolution front panel photo: > > http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500_cropped_hi.jpg > > High-resolution rear panel photo: > > http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500_back_rgb_hi.jpg > > KPA1500 web page: > > http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500.htm > > * * * > > Wayne > N6KR > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message > delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Message: 5 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:32:48 -0700 From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" To: Richard Fjeld , "[hidden email]" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ground rod through concrete thread? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Folks - Let's officially close this thread. We have overloaded the list on this topic and need to give everyone a reprieve :-) 73m Eric /You tired list moderator heading to Visalia to get more tired tomorrow/ ;-) /elecraft.com/ On 4/20/2017 9:24 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote: > I have always thought the best way to avoid a lightning strike is to bleed off any build up of energy that may be on the antenna. > > Many have seen this video of the two guys climbing a 1768 foot TV antenna tower. It clearly shows devices to dissipate energy. > There is one right at the very top when they get there, but not fully shown as the others are. > > There is a short animation in the beginning. This is not for weak hearts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k4Xk1mEwmI > As you watch this, think about climbing back down. > > Dick, n0ce > > > On 4/20/2017 2:13 PM, Terry Schieler wrote: > > POOF! Hey what happened to the ground rod through concrete thread? ;o) > > Terry, W0FM > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Message: 6 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 00:55:56 -0700 (MST) From: "Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS" To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] WTB: KAT500 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, still no luck. If someone know about dusty piece then I will be happy. Best 73 - Petr, OK1RP ----- http://ok1rp.blogspot.com -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-WTB-KAT500-tp7628974p7629672.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 08:46:10 +0000 From: Ken K6MR To: "[hidden email]" , "[hidden email]" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" The Anan SDR folks are doing this using an external coupler feeding one of the receivers in the Anan. Google ?Pure Signal?, which is their name for the implementation. I think it?s a VK who is doing the firmware. There are a few YouTube videos showing the end result, and it is really impressive. The basic concept is pretty simple, but as always the devil is in the details. Way above my pay grade :^) Ken K6MR From: 'Stephen Bloom' [hidden email] [Elecraft_K3] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 11:20 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: RE: [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply Ken: How would one implement this. I know that the real weak spot amongst the high power solid state amps available to the Amateur community has been high IMD, due to what I understand are limits to the existing DMOS chips. Thanks/73 Steve KL7SB From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 8:48 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: RE: [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply The Elecraft folks should be in charge of government secrets? nothing would ever leak :^) One interesting item in the rear panel photo: Tx Sample. Output for ?Pure Signal? style IMD improvement using pre-distortion in an SDR radio? Ken K6MR . __,_._,___ ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 05:43:47 -0500 From: Richard Thorne To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-1500: Gain Mod when FCC Lifts 15db Rule Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed So if and when the FCC lifts the 15db gain rule, will there be a mod available to increase the gain capability so a KX3 or KX2 could drive this bad boy? Rich - N5ZC ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 06:58:19 -0400 From: "[hidden email]" To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Nice! When you asked what we would want in a high power amp, this matched my wish list perfectly. Great job Wayne! John KK9A From: Wayne Burdick n6kr Fri Apr 21 00:01:29 EDT 2017 We?re pleased to announce our KPA1500 solid-state amplifier, covering 160 to 6 meters. Max power output is 1500 Watts. Other important features include: - Small RF deck fits on nearly any desktop (~4.5 x 13 x 11.5?, HWD); weighs only ~22 pounds - Separate lightweight switching power supply weighs ~15 pounds (standard cable is 6 feet long) - Styling matches our other K-Line products - Built-in wide-range antenna tuner (ATU) with instant recall of per-band/per-segment settings - Dual antenna jacks - Rich I/O complement including Ethernet - Interfaces to nearly any transceiver; fully integrated with K3 and K3S - Extensive parametric monitoring ensures safe operation - Silent PIN-diode T/R switching (no QSK relays) Introductory price: $5995. For photos and additional information, use the links below: http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500%20FAQ%20rev%20A1b.pdf If you?d like to be notified when we begin taking orders, please contact Elecraft. Or add your name to the list at the Visalia DX convention this weekend. Required notification: "This device has not yet been authorized as required by FCC rules. It is not, and may not be offered for sale, or lease, or sold or leased, until authorization is obtained." 73, Wayne, N6KR Eric, WA6HHQ ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 04:09:52 -0700 From: Mike Parkes To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft insurance rate? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello group, I am considering ordering some equipment from Elecraft that totals around $2700 or so. I just noticed on the cart check out that an "insurance charge" will come AFTER you submit the order? Weird. Anyone have any clue what the rate is? I don't mind paying a premium for made-in-USA products, what I don't like are surprises and obscure policies. Why can't they just state the rate (per X$) up front? Or do they have to consult the oracle to find out what the insurance rate is? Mike Parkes AB7RU ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:29:56 -0400 From: Fred Moore To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 tuner getting stuck at 25.4:1 SWR Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Sorry for the late response.. I had the exact problem several weeks ago. Every time I removed the batteries the problem would be resolved.. The problem was ultimately me being a dumb ass.. I had purchased a nice blue tooth speaker that perfectly sat on top of the KX3, however it kept sliding off. My solution was to glue a small round magnet on the front corners on the KX3 top. I also glued the same small magnet on the bottom of the radio. Well guess what, I knew better but didn't even think about magnetic shielding of the inductors in the ATU. While testing everything was fine, when I was convinced everything was ok I would place the radio back in it's operating position everything was still ok even with speaker on top, as long as I was on 20 meters, as soon as I went to 40 which could be a couple of days later.. the radio again went to 25.4:1 One magnet was not enough to do it, but when both magnets were on the top right hand corner, it was all over for the ATU.. makes 100% sense now that I know what was happening... Regards.. Fred Fred Moore email: [hidden email] [hidden email] phone: 321-217-8699 On 4/19/17 11:55 PM, nate t wrote: > Hi all, > > I opened up the KX3 and pulled the ATU, everything seemed to be in order and the LPF was in the correct position. > > I put the original batteries back in to keep the testing the same as previously. They were a bit lower than I had previously thought, read 9V (alkaline). I put up a 20m dipole and tested it, 20m tuned up right away and I let it run for a bit. I then switched down to 40m and it tuned up right away to a 1.0:1. After switching back and forth between 40/30/20 a few times, I noticed that the relays seemed to be switching a bit slower than normal, and that the tuning power was going down to 2.0W instead of the normal 3.0W. > > Went to 40m again, and it started landing on the 25.4:1 SWR every try. Pulled up the battery monitor on the display, and while it was running the tuning process, the voltage was dropping down to 7.9V, and it'd stick at 25.4:1. Switched over to external power and it would properly tune 40m again on the 20m dipole without issue. > > The dummy load I ordered arrived today as well, and using new batteries, it will tune 1:0.1 on all bands. > > I'm going to chalk this up to being a low voltage situation, and hopefully it doesn't return! > > I appreciate everyone's suggestions. > > 73 > > >> On Apr 17, 2017, at 11:35 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: >> >> 25.4:1 SWR is what the KX3 reads for a short or an open, if I remember correctly. >> >> Agreed, open it up, make sure everything is tight, include the ribbon cable. >> >> wunder >> K6WRU >> Walter Underwood >> CM87wj >> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) >> >>> On Apr 17, 2017, at 11:20 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >>> >>> Nate, >>> >>> Since the problem is intermittent, I would not suspect a problem >>> >>> You might want to remove the bottom cover and check to be certain the hardware on the BNC jack is tight and the LPF on the BNC connector is properly positioned. You may have to lift the KXAT3 to check - see Figure 43 of the KX3 Kit Assembly Manual. >>> >>> 73, >>> Don W3FPR >>> >>> On 4/16/2017 4:55 AM, nate t wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> I was working with my KX3 earlier today, RX only, using an endfed, while running on batteries, RXing WSPR and PSK31. >>>> After running for a bit, the ATU seemed to stop working. Attempting to retune on 40m, it would stick at a 25.4:1 SWR. >>>> Tried switching down to 20m and it retuned right away to a 1.3:1. Applying external power to the unit, I tried tuning again on 40m (battery was reporting 10V if I recall correctly); It then tuned the end fed up, but only to a 1.7, which it will typically match to a 1.0:1, it would also get stuck at the 25.4:1 SWR on some of the attempted tunes. >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Message: 12 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:34:13 -0400 From: "[hidden email]" To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 The KPA1500 tuner range is fine. If your antennas have >3:1 SWR you need to do some work outside. It will help your signal much more than the amp. Even when I operated the RTTY Roundup in January after an ice storm my antennas were within this amplifiers SWR range. John KK9A from: Wes Stewartn7ws Fri Apr 21 01:18:59 EDT 2017 ] Not enough full power tuner range. ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 08:13:39 -0400 From: Don Wilhelm To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 tuner getting stuck at 25.4:1 SWR Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed All, Magnetic Fields in close proximity to the relays in the KX3 will interfere with the relay operation. The aluminum enclosure of the KX3 (KX2 etc.) will not stop a magnetic field. This was a problem with the speaker magnet in some KPA100s because the speaker was positioned right above the K2 VFO selection relays, before the speaker shield was made standard. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/21/2017 7:29 AM, Fred Moore wrote: > Sorry for the late response.. I had the exact problem several weeks > ago. Every time I removed the batteries the problem would be > resolved.. The problem was ultimately me being a dumb ass.. I had > purchased a nice blue tooth speaker that perfectly sat on top of the > KX3, however it kept sliding off. My solution was to glue a small round > magnet on the front corners on the KX3 top. I also glued the same small > magnet on the bottom of the radio. Well guess what, I knew better but > didn't even think about magnetic shielding of the inductors in the ATU. > While testing everything was fine, when I was convinced everything was > ok I would place the radio back in it's operating position everything > was still ok even with speaker on top, as long as I was on 20 meters, as > soon as I went to 40 which could be a couple of days later.. the radio > again went to 25.4:1 > > One magnet was not enough to do it, but when both magnets were on the > top right hand corner, it was all over for the ATU.. makes 100% sense > now that I know what was happening... Regards.. Fred > > Fred Moore > email: [hidden email] > [hidden email] > phone: 321-217-8699 > > On 4/19/17 11:55 PM, nate t wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I opened up the KX3 and pulled the ATU, everything seemed to be in >> >> I put the original batteries back in to keep the testing the same as previously. They were a bit lower than I had previously thought, read 9V (alkaline). I put up a 20m dipole and tested it, 20m tuned up right away and I let it run for a bit. I then switched down to 40m and it tuned up right away to a 1.0:1. After switching back and forth between 40/30/20 a few times, I noticed that the relays seemed to be switching a bit slower than normal, and that the tuning power was going down to 2.0W instead of the normal 3.0W. >> >> Went to 40m again, and it started landing on the 25.4:1 SWR every try. Pulled up the battery monitor on the display, and while it was running the tuning process, the voltage was dropping down to 7.9V, and it'd stick at 25.4:1. Switched over to external power and it would properly tune 40m again on the 20m dipole without issue. >> >> The dummy load I ordered arrived today as well, and using new batteries, it will tune 1:0.1 on all bands. >> >> I'm going to chalk this up to being a low voltage situation, and hopefully it doesn't return! >> >> I appreciate everyone's suggestions. >> >> 73 >> >> >>> On Apr 17, 2017, at 11:35 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: >>> >>> 25.4:1 SWR is what the KX3 reads for a short or an open, if I remember correctly. >>> >>> Agreed, open it up, make sure everything is tight, include the ribbon cable. >>> >>> wunder >>> K6WRU >>> Walter Underwood >>> CM87wj >>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) >>> >>>> On Apr 17, 2017, at 11:20 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >>>> >>>> Nate, >>>> >>>> Since the problem is intermittent, I would not suspect a problem >>>> >>>> You might want to remove the bottom cover and check to be certain the hardware on the BNC jack is tight and the LPF on the BNC connector is properly positioned. You may have to lift the KXAT3 to check - see Figure 43 of the KX3 Kit Assembly Manual. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Don W3FPR >>>> >>>> On 4/16/2017 4:55 AM, nate t wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> I was working with my KX3 earlier today, RX only, using an endfed, while running on batteries, RXing WSPR and PSK31. >>>>> After running for a bit, the ATU seemed to stop working. Attempting to retune on 40m, it would stick at a 25.4:1 SWR. >>>>> Tried switching down to 20m and it retuned right away to a 1.3:1. Applying external power to the unit, I tried tuning again on 40m (battery was reporting 10V if I recall correctly); It then tuned the end fed up, but only to a 1.7, which it will typically match to a 1.0:1, it would also get stuck at the 25.4:1 SWR on some of the attempted tunes. >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to [hidden email] >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Message: 14 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 08:17:19 -0400 From: charlie carroll To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed What about duty cycle? Has a prototype been put through the paces of a real 48 hour contest? On 4/21/2017 12:30 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Updated FAQ on the KPA1500: > > http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500%20FAQ%20rev%20A1b.pdf > > High-resolution front panel photo: > > http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500_cropped_hi.jpg > > High-resolution rear panel photo: > > http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500_back_rgb_hi.jpg > > KPA1500 web page: > > http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500.htm > > * * * > > Wayne > N6KR > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Message: 15 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 06:37:17 -0600 From: "Greg" To: Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Eric/Wayne...thank you, thank you, thank you!!!! Please put my name on the list. 73, Greg-N4CC ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 06:50:01 -0600 From: To: Greg , "[hidden email]" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Well at least they have one out of 2 new products introduced. Next up, the HF packer amp. Saving that reveal for Dayton. 72 Myron WV0H Printed On Recycled Data From: Greg Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 6:38 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Eric/Wayne...thank you, thank you, thank you!!!! Please put my name on the list. 73, Greg-N4CC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 05:56:00 -0700 From: Wes Stewart To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed A couple of points. If you believe that an SWR of >3 necessarily degrades the efficiency of an antenna, you are simply wrong. If the "tuner" components have to be derated to this extent then perhaps it should be called a line flattener rather than a tuner because a lot of guys are still going to need a tuner. On 4/21/2017 4:34 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > The KPA1500 tuner range is fine. If your antennas have >3:1 SWR you need > to do some work outside. It will help your signal much more than the amp. > Even when I operated the RTTY Roundup in January after an ice storm my > antennas were within this amplifiers SWR range. > > John KK9A > > from: Wes Stewartn7ws > Fri Apr 21 01:18:59 EDT 2017 > ] > Not enough full power tuner range. > ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:02:19 -0400 From: David Bunte To: Wes Stewart Cc: "[hidden email]" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Wes - Excellent points. One of the locals has very fine antennas, but really appreciates the fact that his PW-1 can make the SWR look a 'bit' better. At my QTH, and TUNER, is absolutely necessary... but that is because I have only one antenna, and it is usable without a tuner on only one band. The internal tuners in most rigs can't handle it... the tuner in my K3, or my KAT500, are perfect on most bands. But a 30' vertical is a HUGE challenge for ANY tuner on 160... and many can't handle it on 80. Dave - K9FN On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 8:56 AM, Wes Stewart wrote: > A couple of points. > > If you believe that an SWR of >3 necessarily degrades the efficiency of an > antenna, you are simply wrong. > > If the "tuner" components have to be derated to this extent then perhaps > it should be called a line flattener rather than a tuner because a lot of > guys are still going to need a tuner. > > > > > On 4/21/2017 4:34 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > >> The KPA1500 tuner range is fine. If your antennas have >3:1 SWR you need >> to do some work outside. It will help your signal much more than the amp. >> Even when I operated the RTTY Roundup in January after an ice storm my >> antennas were within this amplifiers SWR range. >> >> John KK9A >> >> from: Wes Stewartn7ws >> Fri Apr 21 01:18:59 EDT 2017 >> ] >> Not enough full power tuner range. >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Message: 19 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 13:10:27 +0000 From: brian To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed John, Don't agree--unless there truly is something wrong with the antenna, connections or feedline. Does your 80 or 160M antenna cover the entire band with The KPA1500 tuner range is fine. If your antennas have >3:1 SWR you need > to do some work outside. It will help your signal much more than the amp. > Even when I operated the RTTY Roundup in January after an ice storm my > antennas were within this amplifiers SWR range. > > John KK9A > > from: Wes Stewartn7ws > Fri Apr 21 01:18:59 EDT 2017 > ] > Not enough full power tuner range. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Message: 20 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:18:16 -0400 From: Carl Yaffey1 To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Can I assume that the tuner will be operable when the amp is on standby? Carl Yaffey K8NU Recording studio. [hidden email] 614 268 6353, Columbus OH http://www.carl-yaffey.com http://www.grassahol.com http://www.bluesswing.com ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:28:51 -0400 From: Jim Miller To: Wes Stewart Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wes Can you describe your affected antennas? 73 Jim ab3cv On Apr 21, 2017, at 8:56 AM, Wes Stewart wrote: A couple of points. If you believe that an SWR of >3 necessarily degrades the efficiency of an antenna, you are simply wrong. If the "tuner" components have to be derated to this extent then perhaps it should be called a line flattener rather than a tuner because a lot of guys are still going to need a tuner. > On 4/21/2017 4:34 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > The KPA1500 tuner range is fine. If your antennas have >3:1 SWR you need > to do some work outside. It will help your signal much more than the amp. > Even when I operated the RTTY Roundup in January after an ice storm my > antennas were within this amplifiers SWR range. > > John KK9A > > from: Wes Stewartn7ws > Fri Apr 21 01:18:59 EDT 2017 > ] > Not enough full power tuner range. > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 06:46:48 -0700 (MST) From: "Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS" To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, The amplifier?s rugged internal ATU can handle full power with load SWR up to 3:1, while a wider matching range is allowed at lower power, including up to 10:1 in standby mode... 73 - Petr, OK1RP ----- http://ok1rp.blogspot.com -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Additional-KPA1500-amplifier-information-tp7629664p7629688.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:01:28 -0700 From: "Dave New, N8SBE" To: "Elecraft Reflector" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:10:06 -0700 From: Wayne Burdick To: "Dr. William J. Schmidt" Cc: "James F. Boehner MD" , Elecraft Reflector , [hidden email], [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 We use a pair of parts in the same family that are very conservatively rated at 1500 W output. Wayne > On Apr 20, 2017, at 11:44 PM, Dr. William J. Schmidt wrote: > > Hmmmm. Too bad these were just announced: MRFX1K80H 65V 1800W PART. I just had contemplated working one of these into a nice Elecraft look-alike complement. > > > > > Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ > > Owner - Operator > Big Signal Ranch ? K9ZC > Staunton, Illinois > > Owner ? Operator > Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ > Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. > Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com > > email: [hidden email] > Message: 25 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:18:23 -0700 From: Wayne Burdick To: charlie carroll Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Charlie, The KPA1500 has been put through its paces in in long RTTY contests, running at full power. We may put an upper bound on key-down time, eventually, but so far we haven?t found it :) 73, Wayne N6KR > On Apr 21, 2017, at 5:17 AM, charlie carroll wrote: > > What about duty cycle? Has a prototype been put through the paces of a real 48 hour contest? > > On 4/21/2017 12:30 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> Updated FAQ on the KPA1500: >> >> http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500%20FAQ%20rev%20A1b.pdf >> >> High-resolution front panel photo: >> >> http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500_cropped_hi.jpg >> >> High-resolution rear panel photo: >> >> http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500_back_rgb_hi.jpg >> >> KPA1500 web page: >> >> http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500.htm >> >> * * * >> >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Message: 26 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:23:18 -0700 From: Wayne Burdick To: "Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS" Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 The ATU in the KPA1500 will handle SWR levels inversely proportional to power output, primarily constrained by reflected power. Eventually the FAQ will spell this out in greater detail. Suffice to say that we?ll be maximizing flexibility while still ensuring safe operation. Wayne N6KR > On Apr 21, 2017, at 6:46 AM, Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS wrote: > > Hi, > The amplifier?s rugged internal ATU can handle full power with load SWR up > to 3:1, while a wider matching range is allowed at lower power, including up > to 10:1 in standby mode... > 73 - Petr, OK1RP > > > > ----- > http://ok1rp.blogspot.com > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Additional-KPA1500-amplifier-information-tp7629664p7629688.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft You must be a subscriber to post. 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Heh, heh, heh.... My radio hobby is far, far cheaper thusfar than many
of my other hobbies..... fast cars, fast bikes, fast computers, shooting/reloading, mountainbiking.... Any number of hobbies this price point would fit right nicely.... Sporting Clays shooters regularly spend $5-10k or more for a shotgun. $10k plus on a 4 wheel vehicle to haul them and their equipment around the course... Pay $35-50 for the privilege of ONE ROUND of birds.... plus another $30-40 for one round's worth of ammo... THOUSANDS of dollars a year for entry fees, travel, lodging, etc.... just to make dust out of little bits of clay 73, ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G On 4/21/2017 1:52 PM, Hunter Ellington wrote: > Well, I was never advocating for an Elecraft legal limit amp, so I > don't have a dog in this fight, but at $6K, it takes the amp out of > the hobby category. I know things are expensive today, but this price > point will be very self limiting. Good luck and I hope you sell a lot > of them.. > > Hunter Ellington, K0GFY > Sent using Hushmail > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Or photography... one lens costs $4000 by itself (and has maintained
that value for ten years)... or travel, limited only by the current state of the wallet; the RV alone (without the tow vehicle) is worth double the cost of all my ham gear combined (and I have most of the K line with features plus other stuff), the tow vehicle is double that... That being said, a proper station antenna system is (should be) well above this price point... look at the current cost of new towers ($12-17k) before adding antennas ($1.2-5k)... In the whole scheme of things... this is a bump, not an impediment for building up a serious station. If it is something you truly want to do and you're going to 'do it right', you'll figure out how to get it done. Are there cheaper options? Sure, but what is the hidden cost; things like integration, simplicity of use (NEVER underrate that) and reliability factor in? The older I get, the more I value simplicity. Being fully integrated to me means, click to QSY then everything is done, make the call and is worth some initial 'trouble' (setup, programming, maintenance) and expense. Will I ever build an ICBM (bigger than big gun) station? Nope, but I can use what I have to make the best I can. And THAT is some of the best fun you can get in ham radio, even if all you can aspire to is being a loud pop gun. Rick nhc On 4/21/2017 1:39 PM, Clay Autery wrote: > Heh, heh, heh.... My radio hobby is far, far cheaper thusfar than many > of my other hobbies..... fast cars, fast bikes, fast computers, > shooting/reloading, mountainbiking.... > > Any number of hobbies this price point would fit right nicely.... > > Sporting Clays shooters regularly spend $5-10k or more for a shotgun. > $10k plus on a 4 wheel vehicle to haul them and their equipment around > the course... > > Pay $35-50 for the privilege of ONE ROUND of birds.... plus another > $30-40 for one round's worth of ammo... > THOUSANDS of dollars a year for entry fees, travel, lodging, etc.... > just to make dust out of little bits of clay > > 73, > > ______________________ > Clay Autery, KY5G > > On 4/21/2017 1:52 PM, Hunter Ellington wrote: >> Well, I was never advocating for an Elecraft legal limit amp, so I >> don't have a dog in this fight, but at $6K, it takes the amp out of >> the hobby category. I know things are expensive today, but this price >> point will be very self limiting. Good luck and I hope you sell a lot >> of them.. >> >> Hunter Ellington, K0GFY >> Sent using Hushmail >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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It's a lot cheaper than a motorcycle of any good size quality. Oh, I don't ride any way so I will take an amp, Wayne.
73, Bill K9YEQ -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Hunter Ellington Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 1:52 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Well, I was never advocating for an Elecraft legal limit amp, so I don't have a dog in this fight, but at $6K, it takes the amp out of the hobby category. I know things are expensive today, but this price point will be very self limiting. Good luck and I hope you sell a lot of them.. Hunter Ellington, K0GFY Sent using Hushmail On 4/21/2017 at 8:25 AM, [hidden email] wrote:Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to [hidden email] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [hidden email] You can reach the person managing the list at [hidden email] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Additional KPA1500 amplifier information (James F. Boehner MD) 2. Re: Additional KPA1500 amplifier information (Wayne Burdick) 3. Re: [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply (Wes Stewart) 4. Re: Additional KPA1500 amplifier information (Eric Swartz) 5. Re: Ground rod through concrete thread? (Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft) 6. Re: [K3] WTB: KAT500 (Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS) 7. Re: [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply (Ken K6MR) 8. KPA-1500: Gain Mod when FCC Lifts 15db Rule (Richard Thorne) 9. New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply ([hidden email]) 10. Elecraft insurance rate? (Mike Parkes) 11. Re: KX3 tuner getting stuck at 25.4:1 SWR (Fred Moore) 12. [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply ([hidden email]) 13. Re: KX3 tuner getting stuck at 25.4:1 SWR (Don Wilhelm) 14. Re: Additional KPA1500 amplifier information (charlie carroll) 15. KPA1500 (Greg) 16. Re: KPA1500 ([hidden email]) 17. Re: [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply (Wes Stewart) 18. Re: [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply (David Bunte) 19. Re: [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply (brian) 20. Re: Additional KPA1500 amplifier information (Carl Yaffey1) 21. Re: [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply (Jim Miller) 22. Re: Additional KPA1500 amplifier information (Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS) 23. Re: Additional KPA1500 amplifier information (Dave New, N8SBE) 24. Re: Additional KPA1500 amplifier information (Wayne Burdick) 25. Re: Additional KPA1500 amplifier information (Wayne Burdick) 26. Re: Additional KPA1500 amplifier information (Wayne Burdick) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 01:11:27 -0400 From: "James F. Boehner MD" To: "'Wayne Burdick'" , "'Elecraft Reflector'" Cc: , Subject: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" LDMOS technology? '73 de JIM N2ZZ -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 12:31 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Cc: [hidden email]; [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information Updated FAQ on the KPA1500: http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500%20FAQ%20rev%20A1b.pdf High-resolution front panel photo: http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500_cropped_hi.jpg High-resolution rear panel photo: http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500_back_rgb_hi.jpg KPA1500 web page: http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500.htm * * * Wayne N6KR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:14:50 -0700 From: Wayne Burdick To: "James F. Boehner MD" Cc: Elecraft Reflector , [hidden email], [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yup. 50 volt devices with plenty of thermal margin. Wayne N6KR > On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:11 PM, James F. Boehner MD wrote: > > LDMOS technology? > > > '73 de JIM N2ZZ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:18:59 -0700 From: Wes Stewart To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Not enough full power tuner range. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:24:41 -0700 From: Eric Swartz To: "James F. Boehner MD" Cc: Wayne Burdick , Elecraft Reflector , [hidden email], [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Yes. 2 devices. Eric *elecraft.com * On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 10:11 PM, James F. Boehner MD via Elecraft < [hidden email]> wrote: > LDMOS technology? > > > '73 de JIM N2ZZ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of > Wayne > Burdick > Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 12:31 AM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Cc: [hidden email]; [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information > > Updated FAQ on the KPA1500: > > http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500%20FAQ%20rev%20A1b.pdf > > High-resolution front panel photo: > > http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500_cropped_hi.jpg > > High-resolution rear panel photo: > > http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500_back_rgb_hi.jpg > > KPA1500 web page: > > http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500.htm > > * * * > > Wayne > N6KR > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > [hidden email] > Message: 5 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:32:48 -0700 From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" To: Richard Fjeld , "[hidden email]" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ground rod through concrete thread? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Folks - Let's officially close this thread. We have overloaded the list on this topic and need to give everyone a reprieve :-) 73m Eric /You tired list moderator heading to Visalia to get more tired tomorrow/ ;-) /elecraft.com/ On 4/20/2017 9:24 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote: > I have always thought the best way to avoid a lightning strike is to bleed off any build up of energy that may be on the antenna. > > Many have seen this video of the two guys climbing a 1768 foot TV antenna tower. It clearly shows devices to dissipate energy. > There is one right at the very top when they get there, but not fully shown as the others are. > > There is a short animation in the beginning. This is not for weak hearts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k4Xk1mEwmI > As you watch this, think about climbing back down. > > Dick, n0ce > > > On 4/20/2017 2:13 PM, Terry Schieler wrote: > > POOF! Hey what happened to the ground rod through concrete thread? ;o) > > Terry, W0FM > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > [hidden email] Message: 6 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 00:55:56 -0700 (MST) From: "Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS" To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] WTB: KAT500 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, still no luck. If someone know about dusty piece then I will be happy. Best 73 - Petr, OK1RP ----- http://ok1rp.blogspot.com -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-WTB-KAT500-tp7628974p7629672.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 08:46:10 +0000 From: Ken K6MR To: "[hidden email]" , "[hidden email]" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" The Anan SDR folks are doing this using an external coupler feeding one of the receivers in the Anan. Google ?Pure Signal?, which is their name for the implementation. I think it?s a VK who is doing the firmware. There are a few YouTube videos showing the end result, and it is really impressive. The basic concept is pretty simple, but as always the devil is in the details. Way above my pay grade :^) Ken K6MR From: 'Stephen Bloom' [hidden email] [Elecraft_K3] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 11:20 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: RE: [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply Ken: How would one implement this. I know that the real weak spot amongst the high power solid state amps available to the Amateur community has been high IMD, due to what I understand are limits to the existing DMOS chips. Thanks/73 Steve KL7SB From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 8:48 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: RE: [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply The Elecraft folks should be in charge of government secrets? nothing would ever leak :^) One interesting item in the rear panel photo: Tx Sample. Output for ?Pure Signal? style IMD improvement using pre-distortion in an SDR radio? Ken K6MR . __,_._,___ ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 05:43:47 -0500 From: Richard Thorne To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-1500: Gain Mod when FCC Lifts 15db Rule Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed So if and when the FCC lifts the 15db gain rule, will there be a mod available to increase the gain capability so a KX3 or KX2 could drive this bad boy? Rich - N5ZC ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 06:58:19 -0400 From: "[hidden email]" To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Nice! When you asked what we would want in a high power amp, this matched my wish list perfectly. Great job Wayne! John KK9A From: Wayne Burdick n6kr Fri Apr 21 00:01:29 EDT 2017 We?re pleased to announce our KPA1500 solid-state amplifier, covering 160 to 6 meters. Max power output is 1500 Watts. Other important features include: - Small RF deck fits on nearly any desktop (~4.5 x 13 x 11.5?, HWD); weighs only ~22 pounds - Separate lightweight switching power supply weighs ~15 pounds (standard cable is 6 feet long) - Styling matches our other K-Line products - Built-in wide-range antenna tuner (ATU) with instant recall of per-band/per-segment settings - Dual antenna jacks - Rich I/O complement including Ethernet - Interfaces to nearly any transceiver; fully integrated with K3 and K3S - Extensive parametric monitoring ensures safe operation - Silent PIN-diode T/R switching (no QSK relays) Introductory price: $5995. For photos and additional information, use the links below: http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500%20FAQ%20rev%20A1b.pdf If you?d like to be notified when we begin taking orders, please contact Elecraft. Or add your name to the list at the Visalia DX convention this weekend. Required notification: "This device has not yet been authorized as required by FCC rules. It is not, and may not be offered for sale, or lease, or sold or leased, until authorization is obtained." 73, Wayne, N6KR Eric, WA6HHQ ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 04:09:52 -0700 From: Mike Parkes To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft insurance rate? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello group, I am considering ordering some equipment from Elecraft that totals around $2700 or so. I just noticed on the cart check out that an "insurance charge" will come AFTER you submit the order? Weird. Anyone have any clue what the rate is? I don't mind paying a premium for made-in-USA products, what I don't like are surprises and obscure policies. Why can't they just state the rate (per X$) up front? Or do they have to consult the oracle to find out what the insurance rate is? Mike Parkes AB7RU ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:29:56 -0400 From: Fred Moore To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 tuner getting stuck at 25.4:1 SWR Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Sorry for the late response.. I had the exact problem several weeks ago. Every time I removed the batteries the problem would be resolved.. The problem was ultimately me being a dumb ass.. I had purchased a nice blue tooth speaker that perfectly sat on top of the KX3, however it kept sliding off. My solution was to glue a small round magnet on the front corners on the KX3 top. I also glued the same small magnet on the bottom of the radio. Well guess what, I knew better but didn't even think about magnetic shielding of the inductors in the ATU. While testing everything was fine, when I was convinced everything was ok I would place the radio back in it's operating position everything was still ok even with speaker on top, as long as I was on 20 meters, as soon as I went to 40 which could be a couple of days later.. the radio again went to 25.4:1 One magnet was not enough to do it, but when both magnets were on the top right hand corner, it was all over for the ATU.. makes 100% sense now that I know what was happening... Regards.. Fred Fred Moore email: [hidden email] [hidden email] phone: 321-217-8699 On 4/19/17 11:55 PM, nate t wrote: > Hi all, > > I opened up the KX3 and pulled the ATU, everything seemed to be in order and the LPF was in the correct position. > > I put the original batteries back in to keep the testing the same as previously. They were a bit lower than I had previously thought, read 9V (alkaline). I put up a 20m dipole and tested it, 20m tuned up right away and I let it run for a bit. I then switched down to 40m and it tuned up right away to a 1.0:1. After switching back and forth between 40/30/20 a few times, I noticed that the relays seemed to be switching a bit slower than normal, and that the tuning power was going down to 2.0W instead of the normal 3.0W. > > Went to 40m again, and it started landing on the 25.4:1 SWR every try. Pulled up the battery monitor on the display, and while it was running the tuning process, the voltage was dropping down to 7.9V, and it'd stick at 25.4:1. Switched over to external power and it would properly tune 40m again on the 20m dipole without issue. > > The dummy load I ordered arrived today as well, and using new batteries, it will tune 1:0.1 on all bands. > > I'm going to chalk this up to being a low voltage situation, and hopefully it doesn't return! > > I appreciate everyone's suggestions. > > 73 > > >> On Apr 17, 2017, at 11:35 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: >> >> 25.4:1 SWR is what the KX3 reads for a short or an open, if I remember correctly. >> >> Agreed, open it up, make sure everything is tight, include the ribbon cable. >> >> wunder >> K6WRU >> Walter Underwood >> CM87wj >> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) >> >>> On Apr 17, 2017, at 11:20 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >>> >>> Nate, >>> >>> Since the problem is intermittent, I would not suspect a problem >>> >>> You might want to remove the bottom cover and check to be certain the hardware on the BNC jack is tight and the LPF on the BNC connector is properly positioned. You may have to lift the KXAT3 to check - see Figure 43 of the KX3 Kit Assembly Manual. >>> >>> 73, >>> Don W3FPR >>> >>> On 4/16/2017 4:55 AM, nate t wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> I was working with my KX3 earlier today, RX only, using an endfed, while running on batteries, RXing WSPR and PSK31. >>>> After running for a bit, the ATU seemed to stop working. Attempting to retune on 40m, it would stick at a 25.4:1 SWR. >>>> Tried switching down to 20m and it retuned right away to a 1.3:1. Applying external power to the unit, I tried tuning again on 40m (battery was reporting 10V if I recall correctly); It then tuned the end fed up, but only to a 1.7, which it will typically match to a 1.0:1, it would also get stuck at the 25.4:1 SWR on some of the attempted tunes. >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >>> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >> [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > [hidden email] > Message: 12 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:34:13 -0400 From: "[hidden email]" To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 The KPA1500 tuner range is fine. If your antennas have >3:1 SWR you need to do some work outside. It will help your signal much more than the amp. Even when I operated the RTTY Roundup in January after an ice storm my antennas were within this amplifiers SWR range. John KK9A from: Wes Stewartn7ws Fri Apr 21 01:18:59 EDT 2017 ] Not enough full power tuner range. ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 08:13:39 -0400 From: Don Wilhelm To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 tuner getting stuck at 25.4:1 SWR Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed All, Magnetic Fields in close proximity to the relays in the KX3 will interfere with the relay operation. The aluminum enclosure of the KX3 (KX2 etc.) will not stop a magnetic field. This was a problem with the speaker magnet in some KPA100s because the speaker was positioned right above the K2 VFO selection relays, before the speaker shield was made standard. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/21/2017 7:29 AM, Fred Moore wrote: > Sorry for the late response.. I had the exact problem several weeks > ago. Every time I removed the batteries the problem would be > resolved.. The problem was ultimately me being a dumb ass.. I had > purchased a nice blue tooth speaker that perfectly sat on top of the > KX3, however it kept sliding off. My solution was to glue a small round > magnet on the front corners on the KX3 top. I also glued the same small > magnet on the bottom of the radio. Well guess what, I knew better but > didn't even think about magnetic shielding of the inductors in the ATU. > While testing everything was fine, when I was convinced everything was > ok I would place the radio back in it's operating position everything > was still ok even with speaker on top, as long as I was on 20 meters, as > soon as I went to 40 which could be a couple of days later.. the radio > again went to 25.4:1 > > One magnet was not enough to do it, but when both magnets were on the > top right hand corner, it was all over for the ATU.. makes 100% sense > now that I know what was happening... Regards.. Fred > > Fred Moore > email: [hidden email] > [hidden email] > phone: 321-217-8699 > > On 4/19/17 11:55 PM, nate t wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I opened up the KX3 and pulled the ATU, everything seemed to be in >> >> I put the original batteries back in to keep the testing the same as previously. They were a bit lower than I had previously thought, read 9V (alkaline). I put up a 20m dipole and tested it, 20m tuned up right away and I let it run for a bit. I then switched down to 40m and it tuned up right away to a 1.0:1. After switching back and forth between 40/30/20 a few times, I noticed that the relays seemed to be switching a bit slower than normal, and that the tuning power was going down to 2.0W instead of the normal 3.0W. >> >> Went to 40m again, and it started landing on the 25.4:1 SWR every try. Pulled up the battery monitor on the display, and while it was running the tuning process, the voltage was dropping down to 7.9V, and it'd stick at 25.4:1. Switched over to external power and it would properly tune 40m again on the 20m dipole without issue. >> >> The dummy load I ordered arrived today as well, and using new batteries, it will tune 1:0.1 on all bands. >> >> I'm going to chalk this up to being a low voltage situation, and hopefully it doesn't return! >> >> I appreciate everyone's suggestions. >> >> 73 >> >> >>> On Apr 17, 2017, at 11:35 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: >>> >>> 25.4:1 SWR is what the KX3 reads for a short or an open, if I remember correctly. >>> >>> Agreed, open it up, make sure everything is tight, include the ribbon cable. >>> >>> wunder >>> K6WRU >>> Walter Underwood >>> CM87wj >>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) >>> >>>> On Apr 17, 2017, at 11:20 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >>>> >>>> Nate, >>>> >>>> Since the problem is intermittent, I would not suspect a problem >>>> >>>> You might want to remove the bottom cover and check to be certain the hardware on the BNC jack is tight and the LPF on the BNC connector is properly positioned. You may have to lift the KXAT3 to check - see Figure 43 of the KX3 Kit Assembly Manual. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Don W3FPR >>>> >>>> On 4/16/2017 4:55 AM, nate t wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> I was working with my KX3 earlier today, RX only, using an endfed, while running on batteries, RXing WSPR and PSK31. >>>>> After running for a bit, the ATU seemed to stop working. Attempting to retune on 40m, it would stick at a 25.4:1 SWR. >>>>> Tried switching down to 20m and it retuned right away to a 1.3:1. Applying external power to the unit, I tried tuning again on 40m (battery was reporting 10V if I recall correctly); It then tuned the end fed up, but only to a 1.7, which it will typically match to a 1.0:1, it would also get stuck at the 25.4:1 SWR on some of the attempted tunes. >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >>>> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> Message delivered to [hidden email] >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >>> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >> [hidden email] >> > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > [hidden email] > Message: 14 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 08:17:19 -0400 From: charlie carroll To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed What about duty cycle? Has a prototype been put through the paces of a real 48 hour contest? On 4/21/2017 12:30 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Updated FAQ on the KPA1500: > > http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500%20FAQ%20rev%20A1b.pdf > > High-resolution front panel photo: > > http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500_cropped_hi.jpg > > High-resolution rear panel photo: > > http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500_back_rgb_hi.jpg > > KPA1500 web page: > > http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500.htm > > * * * > > Wayne > N6KR > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > [hidden email] > Message: 15 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 06:37:17 -0600 From: "Greg" To: Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Eric/Wayne...thank you, thank you, thank you!!!! Please put my name on the list. 73, Greg-N4CC ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 06:50:01 -0600 From: To: Greg , "[hidden email]" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Well at least they have one out of 2 new products introduced. Next up, the HF packer amp. Saving that reveal for Dayton. 72 Myron WV0H Printed On Recycled Data From: Greg Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 6:38 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Eric/Wayne...thank you, thank you, thank you!!!! Please put my name on the list. 73, Greg-N4CC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 05:56:00 -0700 From: Wes Stewart To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed A couple of points. If you believe that an SWR of >3 necessarily degrades the efficiency of an antenna, you are simply wrong. If the "tuner" components have to be derated to this extent then perhaps it should be called a line flattener rather than a tuner because a lot of guys are still going to need a tuner. On 4/21/2017 4:34 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > The KPA1500 tuner range is fine. If your antennas have >3:1 SWR you need > to do some work outside. It will help your signal much more than the amp. > Even when I operated the RTTY Roundup in January after an ice storm my > antennas were within this amplifiers SWR range. > > John KK9A > > from: Wes Stewartn7ws > Fri Apr 21 01:18:59 EDT 2017 > ] > Not enough full power tuner range. > ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:02:19 -0400 From: David Bunte To: Wes Stewart Cc: "[hidden email]" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Wes - Excellent points. One of the locals has very fine antennas, but really appreciates the fact that his PW-1 can make the SWR look a 'bit' better. At my QTH, and TUNER, is absolutely necessary... but that is because I have only one antenna, and it is usable without a tuner on only one band. The internal tuners in most rigs can't handle it... the tuner in my K3, or my KAT500, are perfect on most bands. But a 30' vertical is a HUGE challenge for ANY tuner on 160... and many can't handle it on 80. Dave - K9FN On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 8:56 AM, Wes Stewart wrote: > A couple of points. > > If you believe that an SWR of >3 necessarily degrades the efficiency of an > antenna, you are simply wrong. > > If the "tuner" components have to be derated to this extent then perhaps > it should be called a line flattener rather than a tuner because a lot of > guys are still going to need a tuner. > > > > > On 4/21/2017 4:34 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > >> The KPA1500 tuner range is fine. If your antennas have >3:1 SWR you need >> to do some work outside. It will help your signal much more than the amp. >> Even when I operated the RTTY Roundup in January after an ice storm my >> antennas were within this amplifiers SWR range. >> >> John KK9A >> >> from: Wes Stewartn7ws >> Fri Apr 21 01:18:59 EDT 2017 >> ] >> Not enough full power tuner range. >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > [hidden email] > Message: 19 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 13:10:27 +0000 From: brian To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed John, Don't agree--unless there truly is something wrong with the antenna, connections or feedline. Does your 80 or 160M antenna cover the entire band with The KPA1500 tuner range is fine. If your antennas have >3:1 SWR you need > to do some work outside. It will help your signal much more than the amp. > Even when I operated the RTTY Roundup in January after an ice storm my > antennas were within this amplifiers SWR range. > > John KK9A > > from: Wes Stewartn7ws > Fri Apr 21 01:18:59 EDT 2017 > ] > Not enough full power tuner range. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > [hidden email] > Message: 20 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:18:16 -0400 From: Carl Yaffey1 To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Can I assume that the tuner will be operable when the amp is on standby? Carl Yaffey K8NU Recording studio. [hidden email] 614 268 6353, Columbus OH http://www.carl-yaffey.com http://www.grassahol.com http://www.bluesswing.com ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:28:51 -0400 From: Jim Miller To: Wes Stewart Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] New from Elecraft: KPA1500 amplifier with built-in ATU, separate power supply Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wes Can you describe your affected antennas? 73 Jim ab3cv On Apr 21, 2017, at 8:56 AM, Wes Stewart wrote: A couple of points. If you believe that an SWR of >3 necessarily degrades the efficiency of an antenna, you are simply wrong. If the "tuner" components have to be derated to this extent then perhaps it should be called a line flattener rather than a tuner because a lot of guys are still going to need a tuner. > On 4/21/2017 4:34 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > The KPA1500 tuner range is fine. If your antennas have >3:1 SWR you need > to do some work outside. It will help your signal much more than the amp. > Even when I operated the RTTY Roundup in January after an ice storm my > antennas were within this amplifiers SWR range. > > John KK9A > > from: Wes Stewartn7ws > Fri Apr 21 01:18:59 EDT 2017 > ] > Not enough full power tuner range. > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 06:46:48 -0700 (MST) From: "Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS" To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, The amplifier?s rugged internal ATU can handle full power with load SWR up to 3:1, while a wider matching range is allowed at lower power, including up to 10:1 in standby mode... 73 - Petr, OK1RP ----- http://ok1rp.blogspot.com -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Additional-KPA1500-amplifier-information-tp7629664p7629688.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:01:28 -0700 From: "Dave New, N8SBE" To: "Elecraft Reflector" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:10:06 -0700 From: Wayne Burdick To: "Dr. William J. Schmidt" Cc: "James F. Boehner MD" , Elecraft Reflector , [hidden email], [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 We use a pair of parts in the same family that are very conservatively rated at 1500 W output. Wayne > On Apr 20, 2017, at 11:44 PM, Dr. William J. Schmidt wrote: > > Hmmmm. Too bad these were just announced: MRFX1K80H 65V 1800W PART. I just had contemplated working one of these into a nice Elecraft look-alike complement. > > > > > Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ > > Owner - Operator > Big Signal Ranch ? K9ZC > Staunton, Illinois > > Owner ? Operator > Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ > Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. > Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com > > email: [hidden email] > Message: 25 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:18:23 -0700 From: Wayne Burdick To: charlie carroll Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Charlie, The KPA1500 has been put through its paces in in long RTTY contests, running at full power. We may put an upper bound on key-down time, eventually, but so far we haven?t found it :) 73, Wayne N6KR > On Apr 21, 2017, at 5:17 AM, charlie carroll wrote: > > What about duty cycle? Has a prototype been put through the paces of a real 48 hour contest? > > On 4/21/2017 12:30 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> Updated FAQ on the KPA1500: >> >> http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500%20FAQ%20rev%20A1b.pdf >> >> High-resolution front panel photo: >> >> http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500_cropped_hi.jpg >> >> High-resolution rear panel photo: >> >> http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500_back_rgb_hi.jpg >> >> KPA1500 web page: >> >> http://www.elecraft.com/KPA1500/KPA1500.htm >> >> * * * >> >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >> [hidden email] >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > [hidden email] Message: 26 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:23:18 -0700 From: Wayne Burdick To: "Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS" Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Additional KPA1500 amplifier information Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 The ATU in the KPA1500 will handle SWR levels inversely proportional to power output, primarily constrained by reflected power. Eventually the FAQ will spell this out in greater detail. Suffice to say that we?ll be maximizing flexibility while still ensuring safe operation. Wayne N6KR > On Apr 21, 2017, at 6:46 AM, Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS wrote: > > Hi, > The amplifier?s rugged internal ATU can handle full power with load SWR up > to 3:1, while a wider matching range is allowed at lower power, including up > to 10:1 in standby mode... > 73 - Petr, OK1RP > > > > ----- > http://ok1rp.blogspot.com > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Additional-KPA1500-amplifier-information-tp7629664p7629688.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > [hidden email] Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft You must be a subscriber to post. 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Reef Aquariums can also get expensive and in that hobby only bad things happen fast From: Rick WA6NHC <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Or photography... one lens costs $4000 by itself (and has maintained that value for ten years)... or travel, limited only by the current state of the wallet; the RV alone (without the tow vehicle) is worth double the cost of all my ham gear combined (and I have most of the K line with features plus other stuff), the tow vehicle is double that... That being said, a proper station antenna system is (should be) well above this price point... look at the current cost of new towers ($12-17k) before adding antennas ($1.2-5k)... In the whole scheme of things... this is a bump, not an impediment for building up a serious station. If it is something you truly want to do and you're going to 'do it right', you'll figure out how to get it done. Are there cheaper options? Sure, but what is the hidden cost; things like integration, simplicity of use (NEVER underrate that) and reliability factor in? The older I get, the more I value simplicity. Being fully integrated to me means, click to QSY then everything is done, make the call and is worth some initial 'trouble' (setup, programming, maintenance) and expense. Will I ever build an ICBM (bigger than big gun) station? Nope, but I can use what I have to make the best I can. And THAT is some of the best fun you can get in ham radio, even if all you can aspire to is being a loud pop gun. Rick nhc ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Wow.. $6K.
That will make it over $10K Canadian between the dollar exchange and the extra 13% tax here in VE3 land. Mike va3mw ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Yep, sure would like the Canadian dollar to hit parity with the US
dollar for a few days.... You can buy your amp, and I can dump all that Canadian silver stock. :) Can't help you on the 13% protectionism tax. Sorry! ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 4/21/2017 5:19 PM, Michael Walker wrote: > Wow.. $6K. > > That will make it over $10K Canadian between the dollar exchange and the > extra 13% tax here in VE3 land. > > Mike va3mw ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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> Can't help you on the 13% protectionism tax. Sorry! Not protectionism tax ... "Nanny State" taxes. The same Federal (GST) and Provincial (PST) sales taxes are applied to imports as to other products sold in the Province. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 4/21/2017 6:32 PM, Clay Autery wrote: > Yep, sure would like the Canadian dollar to hit parity with the US > dollar for a few days.... You can buy your amp, and I can dump all that > Canadian silver stock. :) > > Can't help you on the 13% protectionism tax. Sorry! > > ______________________ > Clay Autery, KY5G > MONTAC Enterprises > (318) 518-1389 > > On 4/21/2017 5:19 PM, Michael Walker wrote: >> Wow.. $6K. >> >> That will make it over $10K Canadian between the dollar exchange and the >> extra 13% tax here in VE3 land. >> >> Mike va3mw > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Admittedly I'm the guy who looks at my jeep and realize I paid more for it than
I did for my 1st house and I still expect to see sneakers costing less than $20. It first glance the price for the KPA1500 does seem high, but when you stop and really think about it you realize that it's a fair price for what you are getting. Do I see myself getting one... Not right away, but possibly in the future. ________________________________ From: Hunter Ellington <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Well, I was never advocating for an Elecraft legal limit amp, so I don't have a dog in this fight, but at $6K, it takes the amp out of the hobby category. I know things are expensive today, but this price point will be very self limiting. Good luck and I hope you sell a lot of them.. Hunter Ellington, K0GFY Sent using Hushmail ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Here in 4X, I would not only have the 17% VAT but the absolutely insane cost to UPS it from California (and I wouldn't trust any other carrier).
But if you do a survey of other high-quality no-tune (both solid and hollow-state) amplifiers, you will find that Elecraft's pricing is quite reasonable. And you get the integration and good service as a bonus. I suspect they will do quite well with this product. Vic 4X6GP > On 22 Apr 2017, at 1:19, Michael Walker <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Wow.. $6K. > > That will make it over $10K Canadian between the dollar exchange and the > extra 13% tax here in VE3 land. > > Mike va3mw > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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