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Here's what I'm planning to send to the list
----- Hi Folks - Here is the straight story on our KPA 800/1500 amplifier release status. First of all I'd like to apologize for the lack of official status updates on the KPA amplifier projects. To be honest we've been extremely busy working on all of our product development, including the KPA's, and we have not been able to take a breather often enough to update everyone on our progress. I've had working models of both the KPA800 and 1500 in my lab for some time (all of the units we've shown people were operational :-) . I did get a little ahead of myself though by showing them last year as 'coming attractions'. We have decided to delay official introduction (including order taking) of the amps until at least May. We've been very careful not to take orders or deposits until we were confident we could ship within a reasonable time frame. This delay is due to the following factors: 1. FCC Approval FCC Amplifier Certification Rule changes made late last year (removal of 12/10 M block etc.) required hardware and major firmware changes and retesting in our lab. While these changes are seemingly minor, the amount of hardware and especially firmware changes were significant when you add in the time to both make the changes and to retest the amps for reliability and meeting FCC specs in the lab. (See below for details on FCC requirements.) We wanted to make absolutely sure that the amps are rock solid and that their controlling firmware is well tested. 2. RoHS lead free initiative. This European requirement (soon to be required in parts of Asia, California etc.) has had a -huge- impact on U.S. electronics manufacturers. Basically we have had to re-source all of our parts to remove lead as a component on tinned leads, PCB board pads etc. (Fortunately standard lead based solder works well with parts tinned with lead free solder and regular leaded solder is -not- being restricted in Europe or anywhere else for personal use.) Imagine the amount of man-hours required to change over almost 2000 different part numbers in our inventory to new versions, retest them in -every- product we make, and to manage our inventory as we phased everything over. We started this over 18 months ago and are now in good shape. But the impact on resources and engineering development schedules was major. Many U.S. ham radio manufacturers are just now waking up to the impact this will have on their operations. (RoHS also restricts other substances used in hardware, plastics and many other components - Lots of fun!) We also have to deal with making sure no problems show up manufacturing lead free PCB board assemblies and we have been very careful testing all of our manufactured boards. Note: The European RoHS rules appear to -exempt- individuals in Europe who are purchasing (importing) parts, or kits of parts, for their own use. But since the customs officials in -each- country can interpret these rules as they see fit, we did not feel it was safe for us to ignore them - even for kits. Those of you in Eu know first hand how fickle customs officials can be ;-) Also, built products like our T1-A and the KPA's are not covered by that exemption. (Even the kit versions of the KPA's will include some pre-stuffed PC boards.) 3. Growth Pains This is good news. :-) Elecraft has grown quite a bit over the last couple of years and we have just doubled our manufacturing and administrative space here in Aptos. We've also added to our engineering staff and manufacturing resources. Coordinating this - moving parts, people and resources into the new space, has taken a lot of time and effort. The good news is that we are healthy, profitable and in good shape to continue to grow and supply you with great new products! These areas, combined with the competition for engineering and operating resources on all of our products (current and future) have delayed the release of the amps. We basically had to make the hard business decision on what was to be delayed the most. We also want to maintain our emphasis on quality and reliability in our products, which requires careful engineering development, extensive testing and attention to detail on every product we release. We want to do this right - As they say, "We will release no wine, until its time..." :-) I'll try to keep you up to date here as we get closer to release. 73, Eric WA6HHQ -------- Notes on FCC Amplifier Rules and Testing: The FCC changed its certification requirements for external amateur amplifiers late last year to remove the requirement for us to block transmission between 25 and 30 MHz. (12/10M in particular). They recognized the fact that newer technology amplifiers, like our KPA's, can directly measure transmit frequency and use that information to block transmission outside the amateur bands in the region of the 27 MHz Citizens Band in the U.S. The new rule only requires us to block the range from about 26.001 MHz to 27.999 MHz, which allows us to include 12 and 10 M out of the box. The FCC also removed the requirement that any external amplifier must take 50W or more of drive to reach its rated output. They kept the maximum gain limit of 15 dB though. This means that for a 1500W amp the min drive is still just below 50W, but it does allow us to take lower drive, in the 25-30W range, for the 800W amp. These rules changes required a rewrite of our amplifier control firmware to remove the prior frequency restriction and to remove the code that allowed licensed amateurs to modify their amplifiers to bypass this restriction by entering a unique code. It also required us to retest the amps in the lab to certify that they meet the new rules. (They do.) On top of that -nothing- could be submitted to the FCC until after the new rules went into effect in mid December. Any company who has a certified amplifier currently on the market (under the old rules) will have to resubmit to the FCC if they modify their design to meet the new rules. As a side note - FCC certification does not require any hardware to be sent to the FCC. All testing can be done by the submitter, and for amateur amps we are required to test and document the following: 1. Max gain of 15 dB on all bands. No easily removed input pads etc. that would increase gain. (F/W in the KPA checks overall gain.) 2. Harmonic suppression that meets FCC standards on all bands. 3. No amplification takes place if the signal is between 26 and 28 MHz. (CB blocking.) Technical description of how this is done. 4. Full theory of operation submitted with schematics. 5. Operating manual submitted. 6. Internal and Internal Pictures submitted. 7. Description and block diagram of lab test set up. We've tested the KPA's and they easily meet all the FCC requirements. If the FCC bumps anything back to us on the application, it usually is a request for clarification on submitted data and docs and is easily resolved. http://www.elecraft.com -- _..._ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. 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I obviously meant to delete that first sentence before sending the
posting to the list. :-) That was a left over from when Wayne and I were reviewing my posting. Guess I need a better copy editor (that can read my mind) on my pc! 73, Eric WA6HHQ ------------- Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ Elecraft wrote: > Here's what I'm planning to send to the list > ----- > > Hi Folks - Here is the straight story on our KPA 800/1500 amplifier > release status. <snip...> _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Great stuff. Thanks for the update. Any other interesting products
coming down pipe? David Wilburn [hidden email] K4DGW K2 #5982 Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ Elecraft wrote: > Here's what I'm planning to send to the list > ----- > > Hi Folks - Here is the straight story on our KPA 800/1500 amplifier > release status. > > First of all I'd like to apologize for the lack of official status > updates on the KPA amplifier projects. To be honest we've been extremely > busy working on all of our product development, including the KPA's, and > we have not been able to take a breather often enough to update everyone > on our progress. I've had working models of both the KPA800 and 1500 in > my lab for some time (all of the units we've shown people were > operational :-) . I did get a little ahead of myself though by showing > them last year as 'coming attractions'. > > We have decided to delay official introduction (including order taking) > of the amps until at least May. We've been very careful not to take > orders or deposits until we were confident we could ship within a > reasonable time frame. This delay is due to the following factors: > > 1. FCC Approval > FCC Amplifier Certification Rule changes made late last year (removal of > 12/10 M block etc.) required hardware and major firmware changes and > retesting in our lab. While these changes are seemingly minor, the > amount of hardware and especially firmware changes were significant when > you add in the time to both make the changes and to retest the amps for > reliability and meeting FCC specs in the lab. (See below for details on > FCC requirements.) We wanted to make absolutely sure that the amps are > rock solid and that their controlling firmware is well tested. > > 2. RoHS lead free initiative. > This European requirement (soon to be required in parts of Asia, > California etc.) has had a -huge- impact on U.S. electronics > manufacturers. Basically we have had to re-source all of our parts to > remove lead as a component on tinned leads, PCB board pads etc. > (Fortunately standard lead based solder works well with parts tinned > with lead free solder and regular leaded solder is -not- being > restricted in Europe or anywhere else for personal use.) Imagine the > amount of man-hours required to change over almost 2000 different part > numbers in our inventory to new versions, retest them in -every- product > we make, and to manage our inventory as we phased everything over. We > started this over 18 months ago and are now in good shape. But the > impact on resources and engineering development schedules was major. > Many U.S. ham radio manufacturers are just now waking up to the impact > this will have on their operations. (RoHS also restricts other > substances used in hardware, plastics and many other components - Lots > of fun!) We also have to deal with making sure no problems show up > manufacturing lead free PCB board assemblies and we have been very > careful testing all of our manufactured boards. > > Note: The European RoHS rules appear to -exempt- individuals in Europe > who are purchasing (importing) parts, or kits of parts, for their own > use. But since the customs officials in -each- country can interpret > these rules as they see fit, we did not feel it was safe for us to > ignore them - even for kits. Those of you in Eu know first hand how > fickle customs officials can be ;-) Also, built products like our T1-A > and the KPA's are not covered by that exemption. (Even the kit versions > of the KPA's will include some pre-stuffed PC boards.) > > 3. Growth Pains > This is good news. :-) Elecraft has grown quite a bit over the last > couple of years and we have just doubled our manufacturing and > administrative space here in Aptos. We've also added to our engineering > staff and manufacturing resources. Coordinating this - moving parts, > people and resources into the new space, has taken a lot of time and > effort. The good news is that we are healthy, profitable and in good > shape to continue to grow and supply you with great new products! > > These areas, combined with the competition for engineering and operating > resources on all of our products (current and future) have delayed the > release of the amps. We basically had to make the hard business decision > on what was to be delayed the most. We also want to maintain our > emphasis on quality and reliability in our products, which requires > careful engineering development, extensive testing and attention to > detail on every product we release. > > We want to do this right - As they say, "We will release no wine, until > its time..." :-) > > I'll try to keep you up to date here as we get closer to release. > > 73, Eric WA6HHQ > -------- > > Notes on FCC Amplifier Rules and Testing: > > The FCC changed its certification requirements for external amateur > amplifiers late last year to remove the requirement for us to block > transmission between 25 and 30 MHz. (12/10M in particular). They > recognized the fact that newer technology amplifiers, like our KPA's, > can directly measure transmit frequency and use that information to > block transmission outside the amateur bands in the region of the 27 MHz > Citizens Band in the U.S. The new rule only requires us to block the > range from about 26.001 MHz to 27.999 MHz, which allows us to include 12 > and 10 M out of the box. > > The FCC also removed the requirement that any external amplifier must > take 50W or more of drive to reach its rated output. They kept the > maximum gain limit of 15 dB though. This means that for a 1500W amp the > min drive is still just below 50W, but it does allow us to take lower > drive, in the 25-30W range, for the 800W amp. > > These rules changes required a rewrite of our amplifier control firmware > to remove the prior frequency restriction and to remove the code that > allowed licensed amateurs to modify their amplifiers to bypass this > restriction by entering a unique code. It also required us to retest the > amps in the lab to certify that they meet the new rules. (They do.) On > top of that -nothing- could be submitted to the FCC until after the new > rules went into effect in mid December. Any company who has a certified > amplifier currently on the market (under the old rules) will have to > resubmit to the FCC if they modify their design to meet the new rules. > > As a side note - FCC certification does not require any hardware to be > sent to the FCC. All testing can be done by the submitter, and for > amateur amps we are required to test and document the following: > > 1. Max gain of 15 dB on all bands. No easily removed input pads etc. > that would increase gain. (F/W in the KPA checks overall gain.) > 2. Harmonic suppression that meets FCC standards on all bands. > 3. No amplification takes place if the signal is between 26 and 28 MHz. > (CB blocking.) Technical description of how this is done. > 4. Full theory of operation submitted with schematics. > 5. Operating manual submitted. > 6. Internal and Internal Pictures submitted. > 7. Description and block diagram of lab test set up. > > We've tested the KPA's and they easily meet all the FCC requirements. If > the FCC bumps anything back to us on the application, it usually is a > request for clarification on submitted data and docs and is easily > resolved. > > http://www.elecraft.com > > > > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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How does lead free affect long term reliability? An article I read some months ago pointed out the problems of whiskers growing inside the components without lead. ____________________________________________________________________________________ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hi Jesse,
Fortunately this hasn't been a problem for us. While I think it has been overblown as an issue we certainly are paying attention to it. For all our kits you should still be soldering with regular lead based solder, which eliminates any potential problems with with whiskers even when it is used on lead free tinned component leads. The lead in the solder dominates the connection. For lead free soldered connections on pre-built boards we see no real problem with most widely spaced components on the IC's we currently use. Most of the discussion has centered on very fine pitch surface mount parts. If we use any fine pitch surface mount parts on future lead-free boards we will try to insure that the type of lead free solder used will not cause this type of problem. (The industry is currently addressing this issue with commercial solders used in manufacturing.) Also, as a back up, we can conformally coat the connections on any fine pitch parts with a non-conducting coating that will prevent these issues. 73, Eric Jesse Justiss wrote: > How does lead free affect long term reliability? > > An article I read some months ago pointed out the > problems of whiskers growing inside the components > without lead. > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On March 1, 2007 11:44 am, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ Elecraft wrote:
> 1. Max gain of 15 dB on all bands. No easily removed input pads etc. > that would increase gain. (F/W in the KPA checks overall gain.) Will there be a method to allow licensed amateurs outside of the FCC jurisdiction to increase the gain beyond 15 dB? Will the power output be restricted on 30 meters? Darrell VA7TO K2#5093 -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Eric,
I would be very happy with the 15 db gain from the KPA800 if I could use my barefoot K2 at 10 watts input. Will this work with reduced output, e.g.: 320 out for 10w in? Bill K9YEQ -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:elecraft- On March 1, 2007 11:44 am, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ Elecraft wrote: > 1. Max gain of 15 dB on all bands. No easily removed input pads etc. > that would increase gain. (F/W in the KPA checks overall gain.) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Yes .. it is, after all, a linear (output proportional to input).
Don K7FJ > > I would be very happy with the 15 db gain from the KPA800 if I could use > my > barefoot K2 at 10 watts input. Will this work with reduced output, e.g.: > 320 out for 10w in? _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hi Darryl,
1. At this time the FCC does not allow us to include easily removable components that increase the gain above 15 dB. I don't see an easy way to change this for outside the U.S. 2. We do not restrict the power on any band. That is the responsibility of the operator. 73, Eric Darrell Bellerive wrote: > On March 1, 2007 11:44 am, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ Elecraft wrote: > >> 1. Max gain of 15 dB on all bands. No easily removed input pads etc. >> that would increase gain. (F/W in the KPA checks overall gain.) >> > > Will there be a method to allow licensed amateurs outside of the FCC > jurisdiction to increase the gain beyond 15 dB? > > Will the power output be restricted on 30 meters? > > Darrell VA7TO K2#5093 > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On March 1, 2007 11:44 am, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ Elecraft wrote:
Great to hear that Elecraft is doing so well!!! Since you now have all these extra people, how about adding a K2 firmware upgrade to the list of things to do. I would love to see a couple of things added: 1) A menu item to change the mode selection button to toggle between CW/Normal SSB or CW/USB/LSB. As each band has a default mode of SSB, and CW REV will toggle sidebands (USB/LSB) why not allow the operator to choose whether he want to always toggle through USB/LSB or not. Just like the rates menu choice. 2) A menu item to set whether TUNE will automatically set the power to 2/20 watts or not. With the KAT2/KAT100 installed this is how TUNE functions. It would be nice to have the option to set this for use with other tuners. Darrell VA7TO K2#5093 > 3. Growth Pains > This is good news. :-) Elecraft has grown quite a bit over the last > couple of years and we have just doubled our manufacturing and > administrative space here in Aptos. We've also added to our engineering > staff and manufacturing resources. Coordinating this - moving parts, > people and resources into the new space, has taken a lot of time and > effort. The good news is that we are healthy, profitable and in good > shape to continue to grow and supply you with great new products! -- Darrell Bellerive Amateur Radio Stations VA7TO and VE7CLA Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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