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KPOD toggle macros?

Jim Miller
I'm finally back to working with my KPOD and some macros.

Has anyone figured out how to do a toggle similar to what can be done on the K3 front panel?

I have a toggle on the K3 for doing my split up1 sequence and a second activation turns it all off.

I'm looking to toggle DIGOUT1 which will switch between my vertical and an inverted V.

A second one will be used to drive an aux out on the KPOD which will toggle my RX array direction.

73

Jim ab3cv
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Re: KPOD toggle macros?

Don Wilhelm
Jim,

That is "tricky and potentially dangerous".

The problem with toggles is that Macros do not know the current state of
things, and the state cannot be interrogated using Macros because Macros
do not include "IF Then" logic.  If you are looking at the display you
can usually tell the state, but a Macro cannot.

A Macro can always initiate a button tap or hold using the "SWT or SWH"
commands if not by other explicit commands, so yes, you can do it, but
work in a logical manner to determine "which is what" and the logical
sequence for one macro initiating another.
It may be easier to do something like that with 2 macros.  The advent of
the K-Pod increased the number of Macros from 8 to 16, so it may be
better to initiate the SPLIT with the tap of a button and cancel the
split with a hold of that same button (2 separate macros).

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/2/2017 5:32 PM, Jim Miller wrote:

> I'm finally back to working with my KPOD and some macros.
>
> Has anyone figured out how to do a toggle similar to what can be done on the K3 front panel?
>
> I have a toggle on the K3 for doing my split up1 sequence and a second activation turns it all off.
>
> I'm looking to toggle DIGOUT1 which will switch between my vertical and an inverted V.
>
> A second one will be used to drive an aux out on the KPOD which will toggle my RX array direction.
>
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I'm still waiting for the same thing, I think a part of it is that the k3 does not haveenough macros as each one of the 16 are already assigned to the KPOD buttons.




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I'm finally back to working with my KPOD and some macros.

Has anyone figured out how to do a toggle similar to what can be done on the K3 front panel?

I have a toggle on the K3 for doing my split up1 sequence and a second activation turns it all off.

I'm looking to toggle DIGOUT1 which will switch between my vertical and an inverted V.

A second one will be used to drive an aux out on the KPOD which will toggle my RX array direction.

73

Jim ab3cv
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Cady, Fred-2
A work around is to make the two macros as you do now (chaining one to the other), assign them to two macro positions in the K3 and then assign them to one of the programmable function keys (like you do now).  Then, assign another of the K3 macros to tap or hold the function key (I know, there goes another macro position) and then use the KPOD associated with that macro to activate it.  So you have to use 3 K3 macros instead of 2.


Again, the term KPOD macro is a misnomer.  There aren't any macros in the KPOD, just the ability to use the KPOD switches to execute the K3 macros associated with that switch.




Cheers,

Fred KE7X


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I'm still waiting for the same thing, I think a part of it is that the k3 does not haveenough macros as each one of the 16 are already assigned to the KPOD buttons.




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 Subject: [Elecraft] KPOD toggle macros?

I'm finally back to working with my KPOD and some macros.

Has anyone figured out how to do a toggle similar to what can be done on the K3 front panel?

I have a toggle on the K3 for doing my split up1 sequence and a second activation turns it all off.

I'm looking to toggle DIGOUT1 which will switch between my vertical and an inverted V.

A second one will be used to drive an aux out on the KPOD which will toggle my RX array direction.

73

Jim ab3cv
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Jim Miller
No PFx left. I'll stick with separate buttons or tap/hold for now.

Thanks all for saving me a bunch of dead end time.

Jim ab3cv


On May 2, 2017, at 7:57 PM, Cady, Fred <[hidden email]> wrote:

A work around is to make the two macros as you do now (chaining one to the other), assign them to two macro positions in the K3 and then assign them to one of the programmable function keys (like you do now).  Then, assign another of the K3 macros to tap or hold the function key (I know, there goes another macro position) and then use the KPOD associated with that macro to activate it.  So you have to use 3 K3 macros instead of 2.

Again, the term KPOD macro is a misnomer.  There aren't any macros in the KPOD, just the ability to use the KPOD switches to execute the K3 macros associated with that switch.


 
Cheers,

Fred KE7X


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I'm still waiting for the same thing, I think a part of it is that the k3 does not haveenough macros as each one of the 16 are already assigned to the KPOD buttons.




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I'm finally back to working with my KPOD and some macros.

Has anyone figured out how to do a toggle similar to what can be done on the K3 front panel?

I have a toggle on the K3 for doing my split up1 sequence and a second activation turns it all off.

I'm looking to toggle DIGOUT1 which will switch between my vertical and an inverted V.

A second one will be used to drive an aux out on the KPOD which will toggle my RX array direction.

73

Jim ab3cv
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The problem with that is if you hold the button too long you mess up the macro.

Sadly the K-Pod appears to not be quite yet finished



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#yiv6913377253 #yiv6913377253 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv6913377253 A work around is to make the two macros as you do now (chaining one to the other), assign them to two macro positions in the K3 and then assign them to one of the programmable function keys (like you do now).  Then, assign another of the K3 macros to tap or hold the function key (I know, there goes another macro position) and then use the KPOD associated with that macro to activate it.  So you have to use 3 K3 macros instead of 2.

Again, the term KPOD macro is a misnomer.  There aren't any macros in the KPOD, just the ability to use the KPOD switches to execute the K3 macros associated with that switch.
 
Cheers,Fred KE7X

   
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KPOD toggle macros?

Tony G6GLP
Hi all,
The Kpod currently has no facility to do much more than initiate a key
tap / hold with no facility to interrogate.
This I believe will all change when the ability to control the PC
feature is enabled / built as then PC applications can be built to send
what ever command is required to the K3 and that will include getting a
status back on which a decision can be taken.

The big question therefore is when is the PC control function likely to
be made available?

73 de Tony G6GLP

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