KSYN3 Cheap

[Wally -K7FEL-]

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[Milt -- N5IA]

And I have 10 each of the KSYN3 boards should anyone be capable of putting
them to good use.

Just contact me off list.

72 de Milt, N5IA


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From: Wally -K7FEL-
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 1:48 PM
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Subject: [Elecraft] KSYN3 Cheap

Someone must need the old KSYN3  (NOT B) board?  It's a paperweight here.
I'll sell it for $15 to cover shipping and a cup of coffee.  Any takers?
Wally  K7FEL



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[Edward A. Dauer]

In the first few weeks after the new synths became available some of us
tried to give our old ones away but couldn¹t find anyone with a worthy
need.  If a market has developed since then, maybe someone will let us
know - $15 would be outstanding.

Ted, KN1CBR

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>Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 13:48:58 -0700 (MST)
>From: Wally -K7FEL- <[hidden email]>
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>Subject: [Elecraft] KSYN3 Cheap
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>Someone must need the old KSYN3  (NOT B) board?  It's a paperweight here.
>I'll sell it for $15 to cover shipping and a cup of coffee.  Any takers?
>Wally  K7FEL
>

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[Charlie T, K3ICH]

This strictly my personal opinion, but I did not
even consider "up-grading" my K3 by purchasing the
newer boards.   Mainly for this very reason.  What
ru gonna do with the old boards?  They have
practically ZERO value.

BUT, a good working K3, even if it doesn't have
the super synth board etc., still has significant
value. Maybe not quite as much as it did B4 the
K3S came out, but I figured I could sell my 23XX
S/N K3, buy a new K3S and come out ahead of
upgrading with a couple new boards and throwing
the old ones in the dumpster.  This way, the "old"
boards have not been converted to junk and a good
K3 is still on the air.  Also, I don't have to
worry if some little known production upgrade
slipped by me since my brandie new K3S has 'em
all.  Stated in different terms, I bought a K3S
and sold my K3 for less of a $$ difference than if
I had purchased the new version boards for my
older K3.

Not trying to start a fight, it's just my opinion.

73, Charlie k3ICH




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[Edward R Cole]

I chose to upgrade my K3/10 SN4043.

That involves buying two KSYN3A (I have the subRx) and also got one
KBPF3MDKT upgrade kit for my main Rx.  Cost with shipping was $468.95.

I suppose I could remove all the options I have installed and try
selling my plain K3/10 and purchasing a new K3s/10.  I figured that
resale value would be less than the upgrade cost.

I paid $2,862.57 plus $287.40 for two KFL3B-FM filters.  Realizing I
only needed one filter and sold the extra.  So one FM filter would
cost about $150.  Total cost for radio = $3,011.57.

New K3s/10-K base cost = $2,099.95
(2.8 KHz FL = $129.90  (-$10 credit for 2.7 KHz FL)
13-KHz FL = $139.95
400-Hz FL = $139.95
KRX3A-K = $599.95
2.8 KHz FL = $139.95
KTCXO3-1  = $119.95
K3EXREF = $99.95
KBPF3A = $179.95
----------------------------
Total = 3,649.95
ship = $77.02
$3,726.97

Difference = 3,726.97 - $3,011.57 = $715.40

OK say I removed all options and installed them in new K3s:
and say I sold the K3/10 for full new price when I bought it.

2,099.95 + $50 (est) = $2,149.95
1,449.95 (2010 price of K3/10)
----------------
$700.00

I spent $468.95 upgrading my K3/10 and saved $231.05 to $246.46 over
buying a new K3s/10 equipped the same as I currently have. This
assuming I can get full value for my K3/10 - maybe.  Can I get $231
more than I originally paid? -doubtful.

Upgrading is definitely cost effective for me - plus I do not have to
re-program everything, assemble everything,  and add IF output mod to
KRX3A which I did for my KRX3.

I will give you that the options mix might produce a different
outcome on resale of your K3.
PS:  No charge for the 45-min I spent running this calculation.

73, Ed - KL7uW


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This strictly my personal opinion, but I did not
even consider "up-grading" my K3 by purchasing the
newer boards.   Mainly for this very reason.  What
ru gonna do with the old boards?  They have
practically ZERO value.

BUT, a good working K3, even if it doesn't have
the super synth board etc., still has significant
value. Maybe not quite as much as it did B4 the
K3S came out, but I figured I could sell my 23XX
S/N K3, buy a new K3S and come out ahead of
upgrading with a couple new boards and throwing
the old ones in the dumpster.  This way, the "old"
boards have not been converted to junk and a good
K3 is still on the air.  Also, I don't have to
worry if some little known production upgrade
slipped by me since my brandie new K3S has 'em
all.  Stated in different terms, I bought a K3S
and sold my K3 for less of a $$ difference than if
I had purchased the new version boards for my
older K3.

Not trying to start a fight, it's just my opinion.

73, Charlie k3ICH


73, Ed - KL7UW
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[Hisashi T Fujinaka]

For me the question wasn't about resale value, it was about whether it
was easier to listen to the radio with the new KSYN3A. I think it is,
though I've never done side-by-side comparisons (others have).

I'm not planning on reselling mine, at least not soon, and my fun with
the radio is getting on the air once in a while. I know for others it's
about designing antennas, or calculating net worth of the equipment. Who
am I to say that's the wrong way to participate in the hobby? I hardly
ever turn the radio on and it's sitting right next to me right now. It's
just nice to have what I think is the best receiver when I do turn it
on.

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015, Edward R Cole wrote:

> I chose to upgrade my K3/10 SN4043.
>
> That involves buying two KSYN3A (I have the subRx) and also got one KBPF3MDKT
> upgrade kit for my main Rx.  Cost with shipping was $468.95.
>
> I suppose I could remove all the options I have installed and try selling my
> plain K3/10 and purchasing a new K3s/10.  I figured that resale value would
> be less than the upgrade cost.
>
> I paid $2,862.57 plus $287.40 for two KFL3B-FM filters.  Realizing I only
> needed one filter and sold the extra.  So one FM filter would cost about
> $150.  Total cost for radio = $3,011.57.
>
> New K3s/10-K base cost = $2,099.95
> (2.8 KHz FL = $129.90  (-$10 credit for 2.7 KHz FL)
> 13-KHz FL = $139.95
> 400-Hz FL = $139.95
> KRX3A-K = $599.95
> 2.8 KHz FL = $139.95
> KTCXO3-1  = $119.95
> K3EXREF = $99.95
> KBPF3A = $179.95
> ----------------------------
> Total = 3,649.95
> ship = $77.02
> $3,726.97
>
> Difference = 3,726.97 - $3,011.57 = $715.40
>
> OK say I removed all options and installed them in new K3s:
> and say I sold the K3/10 for full new price when I bought it.
>
> 2,099.95 + $50 (est) = $2,149.95
> 1,449.95 (2010 price of K3/10)
> ----------------
> $700.00
>
> I spent $468.95 upgrading my K3/10 and saved $231.05 to $246.46 over buying a
> new K3s/10 equipped the same as I currently have. This assuming I can get
> full value for my K3/10 - maybe.  Can I get $231 more than I originally paid?
> -doubtful.
>
> Upgrading is definitely cost effective for me - plus I do not have to
> re-program everything, assemble everything,  and add IF output mod to KRX3A
> which I did for my KRX3.
>
> I will give you that the options mix might produce a different outcome on
> resale of your K3.
> PS:  No charge for the 45-min I spent running this calculation.
>
> 73, Ed - KL7uW
>
>
> From: "Charlie T, K3ICH" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3 Cheap
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> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
> This strictly my personal opinion, but I did not
> even consider "up-grading" my K3 by purchasing the
> newer boards.   Mainly for this very reason.  What
> ru gonna do with the old boards?  They have
> practically ZERO value.
>
> BUT, a good working K3, even if it doesn't have
> the super synth board etc., still has significant
> value. Maybe not quite as much as it did B4 the
> K3S came out, but I figured I could sell my 23XX
> S/N K3, buy a new K3S and come out ahead of
> upgrading with a couple new boards and throwing
> the old ones in the dumpster.  This way, the "old"
> boards have not been converted to junk and a good
> K3 is still on the air.  Also, I don't have to
> worry if some little known production upgrade
> slipped by me since my brandie new K3S has 'em
> all.  Stated in different terms, I bought a K3S
> and sold my K3 for less of a $$ difference than if
> I had purchased the new version boards for my
> older K3.
>
> Not trying to start a fight, it's just my opinion.
>
> 73, Charlie k3ICH
>
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> http://www.kl7uw.com
>    "Kits made by KL7UW"
> Dubus Mag business:
>    [hidden email]
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