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Edward A. Dauer

KSYN3A - installation question

First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace the
synths. I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the K3
- success came on about the 12th try.

My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the photos in
the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from which
it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3. Could
we confirm whether R&R is required? Message below says it is.

If the sub does have to be R&R¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?

Ted, KN1CBR

>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800
>From: Richard Thorpe <[hidden email]>
>To: Elecraft List <[hidden email]>
>Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A
>Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
>I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just
>unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board. . . .
>
>R Thorpe K6CG
>
>------------------------------

Ken Wagner K3IU

Re: KSYN3A - installation question

I believe that you should ne able to install both boards
without removing the KRX3
73, Ken K3IU
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:

> First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
> whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace the
> synths. I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the K3
> - success came on about the 12th try.
>
> My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the photos in
> the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from which
> it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3. Could
> we confirm whether R&R is required? Message below says it is.
>
> If the sub does have to be R&R¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
> reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?
>
>
> Ted, KN1CBR
>
>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800
>> From: Richard Thorpe <[hidden email]>
>> To: Elecraft List <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A
>> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just
>> unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board. . . .
>>
>> R Thorpe K6CG
>>
>> ------------------------------
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Jim Sheldon

Re: KSYN3A - installation question

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I looked it over and the only reason you would have to remove the KRX3
is if you had it installed but were only buying one KSYN3A. You must
have the same synthesizer installed for both receivers. If you just
change out the main receiver's synthesizer, you then must remove both
the old 2nd RX synthesizer AND the receiver or you will confuse the K3's
MPU and it won't work. That was the gist of the previous thread.

Jim - W0EB

------ Original Message ------
From: "Ken K3IU" <[hidden email]>
To: "Dauer, Edward" <[hidden email]>; "[hidden email]"
<[hidden email]>
Sent: 2/14/2015 9:33:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question

>I believe that you should ne able to install both boards without
>removing the KRX3
>73, Ken K3IU
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
>>First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
>>whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace
>>the
>>synths. I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the
>>K3
>>- success came on about the 12th try.
>>
>>My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the
>>photos in
>>the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from
>>which
>>it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3.
>>Could
>>we confirm whether R&R is required? Message below says it is.
>>
>>If the sub does have to be R&R¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
>>reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?
>>
>>
>>Ted, KN1CBR
>>
>>
>>>------------------------------
>>>
>>>Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800
>>>From: Richard Thorpe <[hidden email]>
>>>To: Elecraft List <[hidden email]>
>>>Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A
>>>Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>
>>>I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just
>>>unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board. . . .
>>>
>>>R Thorpe K6CG
>>>
>>>------------------------------
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Edward A. Dauer

Re: KSYN3A - installation question

Got it; thanks. I misunderstood the previous message.

Ted, KN1CBR

On 2/14/15, 8:38 AM, "Jim's Desktop" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I looked it over and the only reason you would have to remove the KRX3
>is if you had it installed but were only buying one KSYN3A. You must
>have the same synthesizer installed for both receivers. If you just
>change out the main receiver's synthesizer, you then must remove both
>the old 2nd RX synthesizer AND the receiver or you will confuse the K3's
>MPU and it won't work. That was the gist of the previous thread.
>
>Jim - W0EB
>
>------ Original Message ------
>From: "Ken K3IU" <[hidden email]>
>To: "Dauer, Edward" <[hidden email]>; "[hidden email]"
><[hidden email]>
>Sent: 2/14/2015 9:33:29 AM
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question
>
>>I believe that you should ne able to install both boards without
>>removing the KRX3
>>73, Ken K3IU
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
>>>First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
>>>whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace
>>>the
>>>synths. I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the
>>>K3
>>>- success came on about the 12th try.
>>>
>>>My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the
>>>photos in
>>>the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from
>>>which
>>>it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3.
>>>Could
>>>we confirm whether R&R is required? Message below says it is.
>>>
>>>If the sub does have to be R&R¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
>>>reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?
>>>
>>>
>>>Ted, KN1CBR
>>>
>>>
>>>>------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800
>>>>From: Richard Thorpe <[hidden email]>
>>>>To: Elecraft List <[hidden email]>
>>>>Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A
>>>>Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>>
>>>>I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just
>>>>unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board. . . .
>>>>
>>>>R Thorpe K6CG
>>>>
>>>>------------------------------
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Re: KSYN3A - installation question

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I found that installing the sub reciever is a lot easier with the handle side of the K3 removed.

From: "Dauer, Edward" <[hidden email]>
To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 10:03 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question

First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace the
synths. I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the K3
- success came on about the 12th try.

My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the photos in
the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from which
it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3. Could
we confirm whether R&R is required? Message below says it is.

If the sub does have to be R&R¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?

Ted, KN1CBR

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wayne burdick

Re: KSYN3A - installation question

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Definitely. I believe that's in the instructions.

Wayne
N6KR

On Feb 14, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I found that installing the sub reciever is a lot easier with the handle side of the K3 removed.
>
>
>
>
> From: "Dauer, Edward" <[hidden email]>
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 10:03 AM
> Subject: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question
>
>
> First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
> whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace the
> synths. I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the K3
> - success came on about the 12th try.
>
> My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the photos in
> the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from which
> it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3. Could
> we confirm whether R&R is required? Message below says it is.
>
> If the sub does have to be R&R¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
> reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?
>
>
> Ted, KN1CBR
>
>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800
>> From: Richard Thorpe <[hidden email]>
>> To: Elecraft List <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A
>> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just
>> unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board. . . .
>>
>> R Thorpe K6CG
>>
>> ------------------------------
>
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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: KSYN3A - installation question

In reply to this post by Ken Wagner K3IU

I doubt it ... there is not all that much room between the front
bulkhead and the edge of the KRX3 case. In addition, Wayne mentioned
the need to reroute some of the cables with may not be possible if
the KRX3 is in place.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2015-02-14 10:33 AM, Ken K3IU wrote:

> I believe that you should ne able to install both boards without
> removing the KRX3
> 73, Ken K3IU
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
>> First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
>> whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace
>> the
>> synths. I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the K3
>> - success came on about the 12th try.
>>
>> My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the
>> photos in
>> the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from
>> which
>> it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3. Could
>> we confirm whether R&R is required? Message below says it is.
>>
>> If the sub does have to be R&R¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
>> reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?
>>
>>
>> Ted, KN1CBR
>>
>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800
>>> From: Richard Thorpe <[hidden email]>
>>> To: Elecraft List <[hidden email]>
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A
>>> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>
>>> I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just
>>> unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board. . . .
>>>
>>> R Thorpe K6CG
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
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wayne burdick

Re: KSYN3A - installation question

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It is quite easy to swap the synthesizer boards without removing the KRX3 module. I did it blindfolded with a long-haired cat on my lap and the latest Tom Petty album blasting away.

Wayne
N6KR

On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> I doubt it ... there is not all that much room between the front
> bulkhead and the edge of the KRX3 case. In addition, Wayne mentioned
> the need to reroute some of the cables with may not be possible if
> the KRX3 is in place.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 2015-02-14 10:33 AM, Ken K3IU wrote:
>> I believe that you should ne able to install both boards without
>> removing the KRX3
>> 73, Ken K3IU
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
>>> First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
>>> whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace
>>> the
>>> synths. I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the K3
>>> - success came on about the 12th try.
>>>
>>> My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the
>>> photos in
>>> the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from
>>> which
>>> it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3. Could
>>> we confirm whether R&R is required? Message below says it is.
>>>
>>> If the sub does have to be R&R¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
>>> reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?
>>>
>>>
>>> Ted, KN1CBR
>>>
>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800
>>>> From: Richard Thorpe <[hidden email]>
>>>> To: Elecraft List <[hidden email]>
>>>> Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A
>>>> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>>
>>>> I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just
>>>> unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board. . . .
>>>>
>>>> R Thorpe K6CG
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
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Re: KSYN3A - installation question

But what about us old Head bangers?

From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question

It is quite easy to swap the synthesizer boards without removing the KRX3 module. I did it blindfolded with a long-haired cat on my lap and the latest Tom Petty album blasting away.

Wayne
N6KR

On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Phil Wheeler-2

Re: KSYN3A - installation question

And those with no cat?:-)

On 2/15/15 1:50 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

> But what about us old Head bangers?
>
>
>
>
> From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question
>
> It is quite easy to swap the synthesizer boards without removing the KRX3 module. I did it blindfolded with a long-haired cat on my lap and the latest Tom Petty album blasting away.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I doubt it ... there is not all that much room between the front
>> bulkhead and the edge of the KRX3 case. In addition, Wayne mentioned
>> the need to reroute some of the cables with may not be possible if
>> the KRX3 is in place.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>> On 2015-02-14 10:33 AM, Ken K3IU wrote:
>>> I believe that you should ne able to install both boards without
>>> removing the KRX3
>>> 73, Ken K3IU
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
>>>> First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
>>>> whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace
>>>> the
>>>> synths. I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the K3
>>>> - success came on about the 12th try.
>>>>
>>>> My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the
>>>> photos in
>>>> the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from
>>>> which
>>>> it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3. Could
>>>> we confirm whether R&R is required? Message below says it is.
>>>>
>>>> If the sub does have to be R&R¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
>>>> reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ted, KN1CBR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800
>>>>> From: Richard Thorpe <[hidden email]>
>>>>> To: Elecraft List <[hidden email]>
>>>>> Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A
>>>>> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>>>
>>>>> I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just
>>>>> unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board. . . .
>>>>>
>>>>> R Thorpe K6CG
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
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Mike Reublin NF4L

Re: KSYN3A - installation question

I tried the cat method. He objected to the ground probe. When my arms heal, I'll try with a clip lead.

73, Mike NF4L

> On Feb 15, 2015, at 6:04 PM, Walter Underwood <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> With no cat, I would recommend Sleater-Kinney.
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/
>
> On Feb 15, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> And those with no cat?:-)
>>
>> On 2/15/15 1:50 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>>> But what about us old Head bangers?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
>>> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:29 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question
>>> It is quite easy to swap the synthesizer boards without removing the KRX3 module. I did it blindfolded with a long-haired cat on my lap and the latest Tom Petty album blasting away.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I doubt it ... there is not all that much room between the front
>>>> bulkhead and the edge of the KRX3 case. In addition, Wayne mentioned
>>>> the need to reroute some of the cables with may not be possible if
>>>> the KRX3 is in place.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2015-02-14 10:33 AM, Ken K3IU wrote:
>>>>> I believe that you should ne able to install both boards without
>>>>> removing the KRX3
>>>>> 73, Ken K3IU
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>> On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
>>>>>> First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
>>>>>> whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> synths. I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the K3
>>>>>> - success came on about the 12th try.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the
>>>>>> photos in
>>>>>> the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3. Could
>>>>>> we confirm whether R&R is required? Message below says it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the sub does have to be R&R¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
>>>>>> reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ted, KN1CBR
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800
>>>>>>> From: Richard Thorpe <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>> To: Elecraft List <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>> Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A
>>>>>>> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just
>>>>>>> unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board. . . .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> R Thorpe K6CG
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
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Re: KSYN3A - installation question

Do I have to get a cat?

73, Guy.

On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I tried the cat method. He objected to the ground probe. When my arms heal, I'll try with a clip lead.
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
>> On Feb 15, 2015, at 6:04 PM, Walter Underwood <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> With no cat, I would recommend Sleater-Kinney.
>>
>> wunder
>> K6WRU
>> CM87wj
>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/
>>
>> On Feb 15, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> And those with no cat?:-)
>>>
>>> On 2/15/15 1:50 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>>>> But what about us old Head bangers?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
>>>> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:29 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question
>>>> It is quite easy to swap the synthesizer boards without removing the KRX3 module. I did it blindfolded with a long-haired cat on my lap and the latest Tom Petty album blasting away.
>>>>
>>>> Wayne
>>>> N6KR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I doubt it ... there is not all that much room between the front
>>>>> bulkhead and the edge of the KRX3 case. In addition, Wayne mentioned
>>>>> the need to reroute some of the cables with may not be possible if
>>>>> the KRX3 is in place.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>>
>>>>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2015-02-14 10:33 AM, Ken K3IU wrote:
>>>>>> I believe that you should ne able to install both boards without
>>>>>> removing the KRX3
>>>>>> 73, Ken K3IU
>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>> On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
>>>>>>> First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
>>>>>>> whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> synths. I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the K3
>>>>>>> - success came on about the 12th try.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the
>>>>>>> photos in
>>>>>>> the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>> it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3. Could
>>>>>>> we confirm whether R&R is required? Message below says it is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the sub does have to be R&R¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
>>>>>>> reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ted, KN1CBR
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800
>>>>>>>> From: Richard Thorpe <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>> To: Elecraft List <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A
>>>>>>>> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just
>>>>>>>> unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board. . . .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> R Thorpe K6CG
>>>>>>>>
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Re: KSYN3A - installation question

Cat !

Gave ours to this guy called Schrödinger.

Don't know whether it is alive or dead...

73
Stewart G3RXQ

On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:46:41 -0500, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
> Do I have to get a cat?
>
> 73, Guy.
>
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> I tried the cat method. He objected to the ground probe. When my arms heal,
I'll try with a clip lead.

>>
>> 73, Mike NF4L
>>
>>> On Feb 15, 2015, at 6:04 PM, Walter Underwood <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> With no cat, I would recommend Sleater-Kinney.
>>>
>>> wunder
>>> K6WRU
>>> CM87wj
>>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/
>>>
>>> On Feb 15, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And those with no cat?:-)
>>>>
>>>> On 2/15/15 1:50 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>>>>> But what about us old Head bangers?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
>>>>> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:29 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question
>>>>> It is quite easy to swap the synthesizer boards without removing the KRX3

module. I did it blindfolded with a long-haired cat on my lap and the latest Tom
Petty album blasting away.

>>>>>
>>>>> Wayne
>>>>> N6KR
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I doubt it ... there is not all that much room between the front
>>>>>> bulkhead and the edge of the KRX3 case. In addition, Wayne mentioned
>>>>>> the need to reroute some of the cables with may not be possible if
>>>>>> the KRX3 is in place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2015-02-14 10:33 AM, Ken K3IU wrote:
>>>>>>> I believe that you should ne able to install both boards without
>>>>>>> removing the KRX3
>>>>>>> 73, Ken K3IU
>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>> On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
>>>>>>>> First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was
>>>>>>>> whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> synths. I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the

K3
>>>>>>>> - success came on about the 12th try.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the
>>>>>>>> photos in
>>>>>>>> the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from
>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>> it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3.
Could

>>>>>>>> we confirm whether R&R is required? Message below says it is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If the sub does have to be R&R¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to
>>>>>>>> reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ted, KN1CBR
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800
>>>>>>>>> From: Richard Thorpe <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>>> To: Elecraft List <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A
>>>>>>>>> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just
>>>>>>>>> unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board. . . .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> R Thorpe K6CG
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
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Re: [OT] KSYN3A - installation question

Both.

73,
Josh W6XU

On 2/16/2015 12:21 AM, Stewart wrote:
> Cat !
>
> Gave ours to this guy called Schrödinger.
>
> Don't know whether it is alive or dead...
>
> 73
> Stewart G3RXQ
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Re: KSYN3A - installation question

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It's what I use, but probably a dog would work as well.

Vic 4X6GP/K2VCO

> On Feb 16, 2015, at 3:46 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Do I have to get a cat?
>
> 73, Guy.
>
>> On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> I tried the cat method. He objected to the ground probe. When my arms heal, I'll try with a clip lead.
>>
>> 73, Mike NF4L
>>
>>> On Feb 15, 2015, at 6:04 PM, Walter Underwood <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> With no cat, I would recommend Sleater-Kinney.
>>>
>>> wunder
>>> K6WRU
>>> CM87wj
>>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/
>>>
>>>> On Feb 15, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And those with no cat?:-)
>>>>
>>>>> On 2/15/15 1:50 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>>>>> But what about us old Head bangers?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
>>>>> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:29 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question
>>>>> It is quite easy to swap the synthesizer boards without removing the KRX3 module. I did it blindfolded with a long-haired cat on my lap and the latest Tom Petty album blasting away.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wayne
>>>>> N6KR

Rick WA6NHC

Re: KSYN3A - installation question

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It's neither. Or both. ;)

73,
Rick wa6nhc

Tiny iPhone 5 keypad, typos are inevitable

> On Feb 16, 2015, at 12:21 AM, Stewart <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Cat !
>
> Gave ours to this guy called Schrödinger.
>
> Don't know whether it is alive or dead...
>
> 73
> Stewart G3RXQ

QUENTIN COLLIER

Re: KSYN3A - installation question

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I apologise for this being off topic, but this (which my son told me - I blame the parents...) had me doubled up.

Schrödinger has had a bad day at the lab, and is driving home somewhat erratically. So a policeman pulls him over and breathalyses him. The policeman says "well you're sober, but do you mind if I take a look around the car?" "Sure" says Erwin. A couple of minutes later the officer comes back and says " well, the car's OK, but did you know there is a dead cat in the boot?" (Perhaps I should say trunk, as this is predominantly a US website...) "Well, yes, there is NOW" says Schrödinger.

One day I will make a useful contribution to this list....

73, Quin G3WRR

________________________________
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To: Guy Olinger K2AV <[hidden email]>; Mike Reublin NF4L <[hidden email]>
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question

Cat !

Gave ours to this guy called Schrödinger.

Don't know whether it is alive or dead...

73
Stewart G3RXQ

On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:46:41 -0500, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
> Do I have to get a cat?
>
> 73, Guy.
>
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> I tried the cat method. He objected to the ground probe. When my arms heal,
I'll try with a clip lead.

module. I did it blindfolded with a long-haired cat on my lap and the latest Tom
Petty album blasting away.

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On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 3:43 AM, QUENTIN COLLIER
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> I apologise for this being off topic....

Note to Eric: This isn't any of our faults. Wayne started it. Go pick on him.

73, Guy
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