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Why doesn't the design team at Elecraft incorporate a USB port on the back
of the K3 instead of the outdated serial port? They could offer a kit that would use the hole that is now labeled RS232. There might be room for 2 USB ports or mini ports. Bob Maser W6TR (waiting for Elecraft to repair my new K3) ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Actually, I was confused about the KUSB option. I actually thought it was a "built-in" USB port and when I learned it was merely a serial to USB connector and cable I then scratched the KUSB off of my budding proposed configuration. This is because I have a number of such serial to USB cables and certainly I would find one that would work.
So, I am putting my vote in on a future option to integrate a built-in USB port instead of, or in addition to, the serial port. I understand that there are still quite a few ham operators that operate with "yesterday's" computer technology and may not even have USB capability. I am on the other side, I have no serial port capability on any of my computers (all Apple mac and one Windows 7 laptop). phil, K7PEH P.S. I hope to put in my K3 order before Christmas. I won't have the time to put it together until January anyway so I will have to wait a bit. On Nov 20, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Bob Maser wrote: > Why doesn't the design team at Elecraft incorporate a USB port on the back > of the K3 instead of the outdated serial port? They could offer a kit that > would use the hole that is now labeled RS232. There might be room for 2 USB > ports or mini ports. > > Bob Maser > W6TR (waiting for Elecraft to repair my new K3) > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Usb can be a noisy thing, there are many reasons you wouldnt want it
inside the radio.... Not to mention the exercise in writing drivers alone is herculean. Matt W8ESE On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Phil Hystad <[hidden email]> wrote: > Actually, I was confused about the KUSB option. I actually thought it was a "built-in" USB port and when I learned it was merely a serial to USB connector and cable I then scratched the KUSB off of my budding proposed configuration. This is because I have a number of such serial to USB cables and certainly I would find one that would work. > > So, I am putting my vote in on a future option to integrate a built-in USB port instead of, or in addition to, the serial port. I understand that there are still quite a few ham operators that operate with "yesterday's" computer technology and may not even have USB capability. I am on the other side, I have no serial port capability on any of my computers (all Apple mac and one Windows 7 laptop). > > phil, K7PEH > > P.S. I hope to put in my K3 order before Christmas. I won't have the time to put it together until January anyway so I will have to wait a bit. > > > On Nov 20, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Bob Maser wrote: > >> Why doesn't the design team at Elecraft incorporate a USB port on the back >> of the K3 instead of the outdated serial port? They could offer a kit that >> would use the hole that is now labeled RS232. There might be room for 2 USB >> ports or mini ports. >> >> Bob Maser >> W6TR (waiting for Elecraft to repair my new K3) >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Bob Maser wrote:
> Why doesn't the design team at Elecraft incorporate a USB port on > the back > of the K3 instead of the outdated serial port? They could offer a > kit that > would use the hole that is now labeled RS232. There might be room > for 2 USB > ports or mini ports. Hi Bob, Many ham stations incorporate legacy computers and interfaces that use RS232. We didn't want to create havoc by forcing everyone to upgrade. OTOH, it's easy to convert RS232 to USB. That said, we hope to offer a USB version of the K3's digital I/O card sometime in the future. Nothing in the works yet. tnx Wayne N6KR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I don't think writing the drivers is a herculean task but then I used to do that back when drivers did everything (such as mag tape equipment from the 1960s era where microprocessors did not exist and everything was controlled by the software interrupt level driver).
Chip level drivers and USB interfaces are available. In fact, I have USB for my PIC microprocessor projects and this stuff is all off the shelf (sort of). I do not know much about the "noise" aspect of USB though -- I presume you are referring to the USB 2.0 signaling speed and the noise generated. Phil, K7PEH On Nov 20, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Matt Palmer wrote: > Usb can be a noisy thing, there are many reasons you wouldnt want it > inside the radio.... Not to mention the exercise in writing drivers > alone is herculean. > > > Matt > W8ESE > > > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Phil Hystad <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Actually, I was confused about the KUSB option. I actually thought it was a "built-in" USB port and when I learned it was merely a serial to USB connector and cable I then scratched the KUSB off of my budding proposed configuration. This is because I have a number of such serial to USB cables and certainly I would find one that would work. >> >> So, I am putting my vote in on a future option to integrate a built-in USB port instead of, or in addition to, the serial port. I understand that there are still quite a few ham operators that operate with "yesterday's" computer technology and may not even have USB capability. I am on the other side, I have no serial port capability on any of my computers (all Apple mac and one Windows 7 laptop). >> >> phil, K7PEH >> >> P.S. I hope to put in my K3 order before Christmas. I won't have the time to put it together until January anyway so I will have to wait a bit. >> >> >> On Nov 20, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Bob Maser wrote: >> >>> Why doesn't the design team at Elecraft incorporate a USB port on the back >>> of the K3 instead of the outdated serial port? They could offer a kit that >>> would use the hole that is now labeled RS232. There might be room for 2 USB >>> ports or mini ports. >>> >>> Bob Maser >>> W6TR (waiting for Elecraft to repair my new K3) >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Matt Palmer <[hidden email]> wrote:
> inside the radio.... Not to mention the exercise in writing drivers > alone is herculean. Not if you use the FTDI parts. *They* write the system driver, and supply a complete driver package for 32 and 64 bit Windows. All the application programmer needs to do is interface with it via an easy to use .dll. The latest driver packages from FTDI are even signed. Here at work I've used FTDI parts to embed a USB device ports in our gadgets (including UHF radio receivers) for years now without any heartburn. FTDI will even allow you to customize the driver package (to "brand" the USB driver with your own company name and tailor it to your company's own USB vendor and product IDs) and get it re-signed by Windows Hardware Quality Labs (Winqual) under the "DUA" program. I did this for our latest product family and it only required an expenditure of 99 bucks for a Verisign Organizational Certificate (for signing purposes) and some of my time to navigate the admittedly arcane DUA submission process at Winqual. Bob NW8L ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I suspect many of us have had a USB adapter that didn't seem to cooperate at
one time or the other. I have one that doesn't seem to work on anything! It's a Targus. I also have a Belkin that seems to work on everything! So, go figure! I think the gentleman was right about the BIOS being the culprit. Dave W7AQK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Hystad" <[hidden email]> To: "Bob Maser" <[hidden email]> Cc: "Elecraft" <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor > Actually, I was confused about the KUSB option. I actually thought it was > a "built-in" USB port and when I learned it was merely a serial to USB > connector and cable I then scratched the KUSB off of my budding proposed > configuration. This is because I have a number of such serial to USB > cables and certainly I would find one that would work. > > So, I am putting my vote in on a future option to integrate a built-in USB > port instead of, or in addition to, the serial port. I understand that > there are still quite a few ham operators that operate with "yesterday's" > computer technology and may not even have USB capability. I am on the > other side, I have no serial port capability on any of my computers (all > Apple mac and one Windows 7 laptop). > > phil, K7PEH > > P.S. I hope to put in my K3 order before Christmas. I won't have the > time to put it together until January anyway so I will have to wait a bit. > > > On Nov 20, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Bob Maser wrote: > >> Why doesn't the design team at Elecraft incorporate a USB port on the >> back >> of the K3 instead of the outdated serial port? They could offer a kit >> that >> would use the hole that is now labeled RS232. There might be room for 2 >> USB >> ports or mini ports. >> >> Bob Maser >> W6TR (waiting for Elecraft to repair my new K3) >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I know from my work and personal experience that some USB devices can fail without being electro mechanically obvious. I recently had a new printer fail after working for 30 + days. I couldn't figure out why a couple of USB ports on the PC weren't working, it was just built, new MB and processor etc. I thought the board had gone bad and the case had one bad front panel port as well. Finally after being unable to fix by reinstalling drivers and troubleshooting through the system devices, all USB devices were removed and then I began plugging in each USB device, starting with the mouse and checking each one. When I got to the new and I thought working printer, voila! Issue discovered..,. it was the new printer. Now my serial to USB converters are working. I hope this brief description of what happened to me will help someone else. I use a Kusb and an older, I don't what you call it brand. Both amazingly use the same driver, but their interface software is different. This would mean their chips are the same most likely even though they are different USB adapters. Bill K9YEQ K2-#35 (2 more), KX1-#35, K3, TS2000, IC7000, etc. > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:39:56 -0700 > CC: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor > > I suspect many of us have had a USB adapter that didn't seem to cooperate at > one time or the other. I have one that doesn't seem to work on anything! > It's a Targus. I also have a Belkin that seems to work on everything! So, > go figure! I think the gentleman was right about the BIOS being the > culprit. > > Dave W7AQK > > _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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May as well wait for USB 3.0...
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote: > Bob Maser wrote: > > > Why doesn't the design team at Elecraft incorporate a USB port on > > the back > > of the K3 instead of the outdated serial port? They could offer a > > kit that > > would use the hole that is now labeled RS232. There might be room > > for 2 USB > > ports or mini ports. > > Hi Bob, > > Many ham stations incorporate legacy computers and interfaces that use > RS232. We didn't want to create havoc by forcing everyone to upgrade. > OTOH, it's easy to convert RS232 to USB. > > That said, we hope to offer a USB version of the K3's digital I/O card > sometime in the future. Nothing in the works yet. > > tnx > Wayne > N6KR > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Nov 20, 2009, at 9:53 PM, S Sacco wrote: May as well wait for USB 3.0... ---- Or go straight to ethernet (notwithstanding the RF garbage generated from bad ethernet design and shielding) Bill W4ISH ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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No, no please no! USB is an abomination. And making the K3 a USB device would tie the K3 into whatever operating system supported the drivers and build in obsolescence when Microsoft makes a new version of Windows that once again doesn't support old drivers. Ever thrown away a perfectly good printer or scanner because it no longer worked under XP or Vista? I would not want to take that risk with a radio, which typically has a much longer life than computer peripherals. The suggestion to use Ethernet is better. But Ethernet is probably even noisier than USB. I have to downgrade my shack computer to run at 10Mb/s because at 100Mb/s the Ethernet adapter radiates several loud and annoying signals. Even in 50 years time people will still be using RS232 interfaces and there will be adapters to connect them to whatever kind of interface the computers of the day are using.
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
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I'm really a complete neophyte at this sort of stuff, but isn't it mainly a
matter of having the correct "drivers"? If a device isn't recognized when using a new operating system, it's usually just a matter of getting new drivers. Unfortunately, some manufacturers abandon older products, and don't provide updated drivers for new systems. Hopefully, if Elecraft did go to a USB alternative, they would still keep up with the driver requirement as new operating systems became available. I'm sure this isn't as simple as I may have made it sound though. I'm thinking particularly of back when I bought one of Icom's PCR-1000's. It came out when we were still using Windows 95. Once 98, and later XP, came out, lots of folks had big problems running their PCR-1000's, and Icom just ignored the problem. Fortunately, some alternative software became available, which did work, and later Icom did provide newer software on their website. I think what Wayne was referring to primarily is that some folks out there are still using old computers that don't even have USB capability. I must say though, with the very low price that "netbooks" cost these days, I think it's pretty darn easy, and cheap, to upgrade. I've seen some pretty sophisticated models, albeit ones that have been replaced by a new model perhaps, for sale for under $200. Now that Windows 7 is out, a lot of older models with XP are selling for a bargain. I don't think it has ever been cheaper to step up to some really capable computing power, and still have something that you can very easily throw in a briefcase. Just about all of them have built-in WiFi, and most have good sized hard drives. The one downside is you probably won't have an optical drive included, but those are available as a USB outboard device for under $75. I use mine 90% of the time, even though I have a bigger dual core job available. Anyway, I'm enjoying the discussion, and maybe I'll learn something about the quirks of USB and serial adapters as this continues. Computers and ham radio are so very closely linked together these days, and I only see that getting more so. Maybe there are other good reasons for avoiding direct USB interface capability, but I'm of the opinion that needing to spend a couple hundred bucks to upgrade a computer system isn't that good a reason--not when we spend that much, and a lot more, on all sorts of accessories that may not have as much impact on overall operating capability. I say it's time to retire those old Windows 95 and 98 machines to the same place we put our rotary dial telephones! Dave W7AQK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian, G4ILO" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 3:38 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor > > > > Phil Hystad wrote: >> >> So, I am putting my vote in on a future option to integrate a built-in >> USB >> port instead of, or in addition to, the serial port. I understand that >> there are still quite a few ham operators that operate with "yesterday's" >> computer technology and may not even have USB capability. I am on the >> other side, I have no serial port capability on any of my computers (all >> Apple mac and one Windows 7 laptop). >> >> > No, no please no! USB is an abomination. And making the K3 a USB device > would tie the K3 into whatever operating system supported the drivers and > build in obsolescence when Microsoft makes a new version of Windows that > once again doesn't support old drivers. Ever thrown away a perfectly good > printer or scanner because it no longer worked under XP or Vista? I would > not want to take that risk with a radio, which typically has a much longer > life than computer peripherals. > > The suggestion to use Ethernet is better. But Ethernet is probably even > noisier than USB. I have to downgrade my shack computer to run at 10Mb/s > because at 100Mb/s the Ethernet adapter radiates several loud and annoying > signals. > > Even in 50 years time people will still be using RS232 interfaces and > there > will be adapters to connect them to whatever kind of interface the > computers > of the day are using. > > ----- > Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. > * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com > * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html > * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html > > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/KUSB-Adaptor-tp4038971p4042218.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Yes, but someone has to write those drivers. Icom has adopted a USB interface for the IC7600 but it has only provided drivers for Windows, and Icom arguably has greater resources at its disposal for writing drivers than Elecraft. Because Elecraft chose RS232, it has been relatively simple for them to support all the major operating systems Windows, Linux and Mac OS X, something I think no other manufacturer does. I also doubt that Icom will be interested in writing new drivers for the '7600 once that model is obsolete. "Hopefully" they would, but that isn't a gamble I'm be willing to take. True, Elecraft isn't Icom. Then again, in 10 years time Wayne and Eric may have retired to Florida so who knows what would happen? You need a cable of some sort to connect the K3 to the computer, whatever interface is used. What difference does it make if the cable for USB ports has a bulge at one end? A serial interface is the safest long-term bet that offers users the most choices. You could even remote control a K3 without a computer at the remote end using an Ethernet serial device.
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
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The USB to Serial chipset could be built onto the KIO3. Then the K3 itself would be the USB/Serial adapter. The manufacturer of the chipset would provide the drivers. The FTDI chip would be a good choice. The FTDI drivers seem to work well on OS X and Windows. Not sure about Linux. But, like Julian said, is there any advantage to using a plain USB cable instead a USB cable with a bulge on the end? :-)
David, W4SMT --- On Sat, 11/21/09, Julian, G4ILO <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: Julian, G4ILO <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor > To: [hidden email] > Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 3:40 PM > > > > David Y. wrote: > > > > I'm really a complete neophyte at this sort of stuff, > but isn't it mainly > > a > > matter of having the correct "drivers"? If a > device isn't recognized when > > using a new operating system, it's usually just a > matter of getting new > > drivers. Unfortunately, some manufacturers > abandon older products, and > > don't provide updated drivers for new systems. > Hopefully, if Elecraft did > > go to a USB alternative, they would still keep up with > the driver > > requirement as new operating systems became > available. > > > Yes, but someone has to write those drivers. Icom has > adopted a USB > interface for the IC7600 but it has only provided drivers > for Windows, and > Icom arguably has greater resources at its disposal for > writing drivers than > Elecraft. Because Elecraft chose RS232, it has been > relatively simple for > them to support all the major operating systems Windows, > Linux and Mac OS X, > something I think no other manufacturer does. > > I also doubt that Icom will be interested in writing new > drivers for the > '7600 once that model is obsolete. "Hopefully" they would, > but that isn't a > gamble I'm be willing to take. True, Elecraft isn't Icom. > Then again, in 10 > years time Wayne and Eric may have retired to Florida so > who knows what > would happen? > > You need a cable of some sort to connect the K3 to the > computer, whatever > interface is used. What difference does it make if the > cable for USB ports > has a bulge at one end? > > A serial interface is the safest long-term bet that offers > users the most > choices. You could even remote control a K3 without a > computer at the remote > end using an Ethernet serial device. > > ----- > Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. > * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com > * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html > * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html > > -- > View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/KUSB-Adaptor-tp4038971p4043957.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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David Fleming wrote:
> But, like Julian said, is there any advantage to using a plain USB cable instead a USB cable with a bulge on the end? :-) > > There could be, if Elecraft supported it. USB 2.0 has enough bandwidth to support a software band scope... 73, Ross N4RP -- FCC Section 97.313(a) “At all times, an amateur station must use the minimum transmitter power necessary to carry out the desired communications.” ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Its pointless discussing hardware design changes for the K3, the K3's design is carved in rock. It would probably be a good design consideration for the K4, or K5. We are unlikely to see different models of Elecraft products roll out like the Japanese roll out new radio models. I just noticed that Yaesu has a new radio called the FT5000, it looks like a FT2000 and it probably has the same crap receiver. Its ergonomics look good though.
John --- On Sat, 11/21/09, Ross Primrose <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: Ross Primrose <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Adaptor > To: > Cc: [hidden email] > Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 1:07 PM > David Fleming wrote: > > But, like Julian said, is there any advantage to using > a plain USB cable instead a USB cable with a bulge on the > end? :-) > > > > > There could be, if Elecraft supported it. USB 2.0 has > enough bandwidth > to support a software band scope... > > 73, Ross N4RP > > -- > FCC Section 97.313(a) “At all times, an amateur station > must use the minimum transmitter power necessary to carry > out the desired communications.” > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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<I use an rs-232 to usb adapter with cabel between my K3 and pc and this works perfekt in my schak.
Driver for this usb adapter is prolific USB-to-Serial Bridge...i buy this at Claes Ohlsson here in Norway. My direct rs 232 cabel from K3 to computer worked nice before i put my PA in work...1Kw at 80m killed my com port in my pc (homebrew)....REMEMBER FERRITE FRIENDS....i did not..my antenna at this moment was Carolina Windom homebrew.(still ,but will try Mysteri antenna soon) Acctualy i use rs323-usb also on my Ts-570d and Ts-480hx w/o any problems. I might send a container wiht adapter over for you all :-)) Just for information 73 de Lars M LA2RRA |
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In reply to this post by Bob Maser
<Uhhh forgot to tell my computer is an Asus motherboard P5E-VM DO with 2core intel cpu with XP service pc-3. 2 Gig ram and lot of HDD :-) 73 de Lars M LA2RRA |
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