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hhoyt

KX2 Heatsink

Leroy, everyone else reading the misinformation posted by Tex KA5Y:

Please do not make a decision on faulty information. I was the one who
came along AFTER the original list owner who banned many people
including me, and I fixed the idiotic policies which kept people from
talking about manufacturers the owner didn't like. I was one of those
people who was banned! Please check your information before agreeing
with someone who speaks without getting his facts straight. Since I
have been moderating the Yahoo KX User Group I have not banned ANYONE
for reasons other than posting porn or Viagra ads, and those are usually
hijacked email accounts. If you need independent verification of this
set of facts, please contact these vendors who were banned like me, but
who can now post whatever they want thanks to me taking the group over
and changing the policy, they know the real story of what happened in
that group, not Tex:

QRPworks - Steve Silverman - [hidden email]
GEMS Products - Scott Bastian - [hidden email]
Rose's Cases - Ken Kopp - [hidden email]

This is one of the problems with the internet: people can just say
whatever they want without checking facts, and some people just believe
what they read uncritically.

Howie - WA4PSC
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Tex

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How did you become moderator after being banned. The moderator would not even acknowledge anyone's emails. Seems as though the moderator had no name or call sign posted. Guess you had an inside track.

I sent an email to you at Pro Audio after selling my KX3 and acquiring a KX2. You were the 'new' moderator claiming a more friendly group. I pleaded my case with my apology for promoting products. I see the rules still require your pre approval for mentioning/promoting a product. You didn't even have the courtesy to respond to my email. From the post I've seen not many were reinstated.

It stinks Howie no matter how you spin it.

73 Tex
ka5y

Leroy

Re: KX2 Heatsink

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I did not know about Tex until today.
I based my opinion on my own experience.
The last time I emailed moderator and got no
response I deleted KX3 from the groups
I belong to.
So I am not a problem to you have to deal with.
After today I doubt others will have a problem,
so I think you are OK.

73 Leroy AB7CE

-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Hoyt
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 3:51 PM
To: [hidden email] ; [hidden email]
Subject: KX2 Heatsink

Leroy, everyone else reading the misinformation posted by Tex KA5Y:
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Thank you Howie!

I was also banned from that group in 2014 for reasons that were never clear to me, and I did not get any reply from the owner when I asked what I had done wrong. At the time I was extremely upset as I had never been banned from anything before in my life.

I did hear some very enlightening information from one of the other vendors of KX3 heatsink products about the dark things going on under the previous group owner. I decided then not to participate further in that group, though I managed to resubscribe under another email address just so that I could access archives of useful material in the group.

It is good to know that you have taken over the group.

73 from David GM4JJJ

> On 15 May 2017, at 22:51, Howard Hoyt <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Leroy, everyone else reading the misinformation posted by Tex KA5Y:
>
> Please do not make a decision on faulty information. I was the one who came along AFTER the original list owner who banned many people including me, and I fixed the idiotic policies which kept people from talking about manufacturers the owner didn't like. I was one of those people who was banned! Please check your information before agreeing with someone who speaks without getting his facts straight. Since I have been moderating the Yahoo KX User Group I have not banned ANYONE for reasons other than posting porn or Viagra ads, and those are usually hijacked email accounts. If you need independent verification of this set of facts, please contact these vendors who were banned like me, but who can now post whatever they want thanks to me taking the group over and changing the policy, they know the real story of what happened in that group, not Tex:
>
> QRPworks - Steve Silverman - [hidden email]
> GEMS Products - Scott Bastian - [hidden email]
> Rose's Cases - Ken Kopp - [hidden email]
>
> This is one of the problems with the internet: people can just say whatever they want without checking facts, and some people just believe what they read uncritically.
>
> Howie - WA4PSC
> _________________________________________

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hhoyt

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Leroy,

Many of us experienced exactly what you described: banning without
notice and no replies from the moderator. I despise that method of
running a list and no member has been treated that way since I became
moderator of the Yahoo KX3 KX User Group in late May 2015 and I believe
all here who are also on the KX3 list will agree. So I say again, your
recollection of the timing of that event is in error.

I also checked the email logs for the account: [hidden email]
and see no email from your email account in 2017. Please forward a copy
so I can respond properly.

Howie - WA4PSC

On 5/16/2017 4:19 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
> You should know it was a year ago that I was banned from the KX3 list for
> mentioning a heat sink. I just two months ago emailed the list moderator, no response.

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Ignacy

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I posted quite a few messages to the KX3 group on Yahoo. Some of them over a year ago were lost. I asked Howie and he responded that he deleted nothing. It seems that past May of last year, none of my posts made. My messages to other groups on yahoo make it, the last one yesterday.

Not sure what it is. Many "free" websites now change designs, often for the worse to a user, to generate more advertising. Perhaps it is due to an ad blocker with a specific browser.

Ignacy, NO9E

Don Wilhelm

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Ignacy,

If those posts were responses to posts, then know that "Reply" goes only
to the sender. You must do "Reply All" to send to the group and to the
sender. If you do not want to reply to the sender, delete that address.

The KX3 Yahoo Group works differently than many other groups. I worked
with the moderator to make replying to only the poster possible without
"jumping through hoops", and the result is the best he could accomplish.

Look at the "To" line in your responses.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/16/2017 9:52 PM, Ignacy wrote:

> I posted quite a few messages to the KX3 group on Yahoo. Some of them over a
> year ago were lost. I asked Howie and he responded that he deleted nothing.
> It seems that past May of last year, none of my posts made. My messages to
> other groups on yahoo make it, the last one yesterday.
>
> Not sure what it is. Many "free" websites now change designs, often for the
> worse to a user, to generate more advertising. Perhaps it is due to an ad
> blocker with a specific browser.
>
> Ignacy, NO9E
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hhoyt

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Hi Ignacy,

The Yahoo KX2 Group has a slightly different posting procedure than
other Yahoo Groups, and many others here in the Elecraft Group are also
KX3 Group members and may find this useful: when you post a reply using
the webform it defaults to replying only to the original poster. You
have to drop down the address field and select the group address if you
want the reply to go to the whole group. Since you have not been
blocked from posting this is the most likely reason. This has caused
quite a few people to feel they are on moderation when in reality their
replies are only going to the original poster.

Let me know if you have any issues, I'll be glad to help figure them out.

Cheers & 73,
Howie - WA4PSC

I posted quite a few messages to the KX3 group on Yahoo. Some of them over a
year ago were lost. I asked Howie and he responded that he deleted nothing.
It seems that past May of last year, none of my posts made. My messages to
other groups on yahoo make it, the last one yesterday.

Not sure what it is. Many "free" websites now change designs, often for the
worse to a user, to generate more advertising. Perhaps it is due to an ad
blocker with a specific browser.

Ignacy, NO9E

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