[KX2] WSJT-X & Win10 Volume Mixer
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I’m setting up WSJT-X 2.01 on a Win10 Surface Pro 6 laptop, using a Sabrent
USB Sound card and GPS USB receiver to sync time. I’m running 5W indoors on a Elecraft AX1 antenna with supplied counterpoise on 20m. ALC flashes on TX between 4-5 bars with sliders on Windows sound at 50%, WSJT-X 50% and adjusting MIC GAIN. RX is certainly down indoors with the little whip antenna but I’m receiving 5-10 stations each cycle. But nobody seems to hear me. That might be my low power indoors on a whip, but also see that WSJT-X on the Win10 Volume Mixer just barely shows a blue bar when TXing. Does this suggest too little volume output from Win10? BRET/N4SRN -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: [KX2] WSJT-X & Win10 Volume Mixer
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I'll add that, with Win10 volume mixer sliders set at 50%, WSJT-X slider set
to 50%, MIC GAIN is at 3-4 to get 4 bars with 5th flashing. Running Win10 volume mixer slider to 100% does not allow 4-5 bars on the KX2 TX even with MIC GAIN on 1 and WSJT-X slider near zero. BRET/N4SRN -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: [KX2] WSJT-X & Win10 Volume Mixer
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What is the power level set at? The level controls and alc adjustments set
the modulation level, but in an Elecraft rig the power out is set by the power control. The other possibility is that the stations you are printing are running much more power than you are and/or may have a higher noise level than you are experiencing. Jim Rhodes K0XU On Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 08:24 MaverickNH <[hidden email]> wrote: > I'll add that, with Win10 volume mixer sliders set at 50%, WSJT-X slider > set > to 50%, MIC GAIN is at 3-4 to get 4 bars with 5th flashing. Running Win10 > volume mixer slider to 100% does not allow 4-5 bars on the KX2 TX even with > MIC GAIN on 1 and WSJT-X slider near zero. > > BRET/N4SRN > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: [KX2] WSJT-X & Win10 Volume Mixer
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Bret,
I am confused by the first and second sentences of your post. In the first sentence, you say you can achieve 4 bars with the 5th one flashing. Then in the 2nd sentence, you say that you cannot achieve that same condition. Are you aware that if you overdrive the KX2/KX3 audio with too much input, the KX2/KX3 will shut down the audio amplifier. It may be that you are driving it with too high an audio level. Back down on the computer generated audio and see if things are restored to normal. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/14/2019 9:23 AM, MaverickNH wrote: > I'll add that, with Win10 volume mixer sliders set at 50%, WSJT-X slider set > to 50%, MIC GAIN is at 3-4 to get 4 bars with 5th flashing. Running Win10 > volume mixer slider to 100% does not allow 4-5 bars on the KX2 TX even with > MIC GAIN on 1 and WSJT-X slider near zero. > > BRET/N4SRN > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: [KX2] WSJT-X & Win10 Volume Mixer
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Hi Jim, The power output is set to 5W on my KX2. The heat sink is getting warm so those 5W are going somewhere! It’s raining here in Upstate NY where I’m traveling otherwise I’d try operating outside from the AX1. I also have 20m and 40m HAMsticks to try elevated on a short mask when it’s dry.
Best regards, Bret aka Charles Jessee N4SRN ------ Original Message ------ From: Jim Rhodes To: Charles Jessee Cc: [hidden email] Sent: June 14, 2019 at 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX2] WSJT-X&Win10 Volume Mixer What is the power level set at? The level controls and alc adjustments set the modulation level, but in an Elecraft rig the power out is set by the power control. The other possibility is that the stations you are printing are running much more power than you are and/or may have a higher noise level than you are experiencing. Jim Rhodes K0XU On Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 08:24 MaverickNH<[hidden email]>wrote: I'll add that, with Win10 volume mixer sliders set at 50%, WSJT-X slider set to 50%, MIC GAIN is at 3-4 to get 4 bars with 5th flashing. Running Win10 volume mixer slider to 100% does not allow 4-5 bars on the KX2 TX even with MIC GAIN on 1 and WSJT-X slider near zero. BRET/N4SRN -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: [KX2] WSJT-X & Win10 Volume Mixer
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Hi Don - I *did* say that unclearly. What I meant was that I tried operating 5W with the Win10 volume mixer slider at 50% and 100%. At 50% I can control 4-5 bars with MIC GAIN but at 100% ALC cannot be rolled back to 4-5 bars - it stays way high. I’ll try as you suggest.
Best regards, Bret aka Charles Jessee N4SRN ------ Original Message ------ From: Don Wilhelm To: Charles Jessee, [hidden email] Sent: June 14, 2019 at 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX2] WSJT-X&Win10 Volume Mixer Bret, I am confused by the first and second sentences of your post. In the first sentence, you say you can achieve 4 bars with the 5th one flashing. Then in the 2nd sentence, you say that you cannot achieve that same condition. Are you aware that if you overdrive the KX2/KX3 audio with too much input, the KX2/KX3 will shut down the audio amplifier. It may be that you are driving it with too high an audio level. Back down on the computer generated audio and see if things are restored to normal. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/14/2019 9:23 AM, MaverickNH wrote: I'll add that, with Win10 volume mixer sliders set at 50%, WSJT-X slider set to 50%, MIC GAIN is at 3-4 to get 4 bars with 5th flashing. Running Win10 volume mixer slider to 100% does not allow 4-5 bars on the KX2 TX even with MIC GAIN on 1 and WSJT-X slider near zero. BRET/N4SRN -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: [KX2] WSJT-X & Win10 Volume Mixer
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Bret (AKA Charles),
Back down the computer level controls until you obtain the conditions in your first sentence. Than don't change the audio level controls further. You may have to "touch up the levels depending on the band. I know the internet advice is to use the audio level to control the power level, but that is wrong for Elecraft radios. Elecraft radios control power differently from all other amateur transceivers (some commercial transceivers use a similar method) - so ignore that internet advice. Set the audio for 4 bars on the "ALC" meter (that is the NO ALC point). Set the power desired with the POWER knob. See the related article on my website www.w3fpr.com. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/14/2019 11:24 AM, Charles wrote: > Hi Don - I *did* say that unclearly. What I meant was that I tried > operating 5W with the Win10 volume mixer slider at 50% and 100%. At > 50% I can control 4-5 bars with MIC GAIN but at 100% ALC cannot be > rolled back to 4-5 bars - it stays way high. I’ll try as you suggest. > > Best regards, > > Bret > > aka Charles Jessee N4SRN > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > From: Don Wilhelm > To: Charles Jessee, [hidden email] > Sent: June 14, 2019 at 11:20 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX2] WSJT-X & Win10 Volume Mixer > > Bret, > > I am confused by the first and second sentences of your post. > In the first sentence, you say you can achieve 4 bars with the 5th one > flashing. > Then in the 2nd sentence, you say that you cannot achieve that same > condition. > > Are you aware that if you overdrive the KX2/KX3 audio with too much > input, the KX2/KX3 will shut down the audio amplifier. It may be that > you are driving it with too high an audio level. Back down on the > computer generated audio and see if things are restored to normal. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 6/14/2019 9:23 AM, MaverickNH wrote: > I'll add that, with Win10 volume mixer sliders set at 50%, WSJT-X > slider set > to 50%, MIC GAIN is at 3-4 to get 4 bars with 5th flashing. Running Win10 > volume mixer slider to 100% does not allow 4-5 bars on the KX2 TX even > with > MIC GAIN on 1 and WSJT-X slider near zero. > > BRET/N4SRN > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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From experience, I find running any audio level at 100% is usually an indication that the levels throughout the "system" are not correctly balanced.
With my version of Windows 10 Pro the SPKR level runs 30% to 35%. With the radio and or the Signalink the PWR slider on WSJT-X is 50 to 60% of full scale. And the Line gain on the radio is 30% to 35%. These range values work with the K3S or one of the other radios using the Signalink. Bob, K4TAX Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2019, at 10:24 AM, Charles <[hidden email]> wrote: > > bars ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: [KX2] WSJT-X & Win10 Volume Mixer
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That worked Don, thanks. I had to back the PC audio output down to 15% and then increase KX2 MIC GAIN to 18 with the WSJT-X slider up to ~75% with 4-5 bars ALC. QSOs are coming in slowly but surely now from 1000km+ on 5W with an indoor whip on 20m. I can’t wait to get outside!
My faith is restored! Best regards, Bret aka Charles Jessee N4SRN ------ Original Message ------ From: Don Wilhelm To:CharlesJessee, [hidden email] Sent: June 14, 2019 at 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX2] WSJT-X&Win10 Volume Mixer Bret (AKA Charles), Back down the computer level controls until you obtain the conditions in your first sentence. Than don't change the audio level controls further.You may have to "touch up the levels depending on the band. I know the internet advice is to use the audio level to control the power level, but that is wrong for Elecraft radios.Elecraft radios control power differently from all other amateur transceivers (some commercial transceivers use a similar method) - so ignore that internet advice.Set the audio for 4 bars on the "ALC" meter (that is the NO ALC point). Set the power desired with the POWER knob. See the related article on my website www.w3fpr.com. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/14/2019 11:24 AM, Charles wrote:>Hi Don - I *did* say that unclearly. What I meant was that I tried>operating 5W with the Win10 volume mixer slider at 50% and 100%. At>50% I can control 4-5 bars with MIC GAIN but at 100% ALC cannot be>rolled back to 4-5 bars - it stays way high. I’ll try as you suggest.>>Best regards,>>Bret>>aka Charles Jessee N4SRN>>>>------ Original Message ------>>From: Don Wilhelm>To: Charles Jessee, [hidden email]>Sent: June 14, 2019 at 11:20 AM>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX2] WSJT-X&Win10 Volume Mixer>>Bret,>>I am confused by the first and second sentences of your post.>In the first sentence, you say you can achieve 4 bars with the 5th one>flashing.>Then in the 2nd sentence, you say that you cannot achieve that same>condition.>>Are you aware that if you overdrive the KX2/KX3 audio with too much>input, the KX2/KX3 will shut down the audio amplifier. It may be that>you are driving it with too high an audio level. Back down on the>computer generated audio and see if things are restored to normal.>>73,>Don W3FPR>>On 6/14/2019 9:23 AM, MaverickNH wrote:>I'll add that, with Win10 volume mixer sliders set at 50%, WSJT-X>slider set>to 50%, MIC GAIN is at 3-4 to get 4 bars with 5th flashing. Running Win10>volume mixer slider to 100% does not allow 4-5 bars on the KX2 TX even>with>MIC GAIN on 1 and WSJT-X slider near zero.>>BRET/N4SRN>>>>-->Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/>______________________________________________________________>Elecraft mailing list>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm>Post: mailto:[hidden email]>>This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net>Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html>Message delivered to [hidden email]>>>> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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