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Glen Torr-2

[KX2]

Hello Aptos Dudes,

SOTA is exploding in popularity and your product line started with a radio
named after one the highest.

How about a KX2, through hole, 7 to 24 MHz CW / SSB 20 W. SOTA radio?

I love my KX3 on summits.

Good Wishes,

Glen VK1FB
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LA8OKA

Vedr: [KX2]

Good idea! But I want 80 m and 10 m included as well!
A kit in the tradition of the K1, K2 and KX1, a KX1 form faktor with built in antenna tuner, but with SSB would be a welcome adition to the Elecraft line!
Martin Storli
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Sendt: Onsdag, 5. februar 2014 22.45
Emne: [Elecraft] [KX2]

Hello Aptos Dudes,

SOTA is exploding in popularity and your product line started with a radio
named after one the highest.

How about a KX2, through hole, 7 to 24 MHz CW / SSB 20 W. SOTA radio?

I love my KX3 on summits.

Good Wishes,

Glen VK1FB
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wayne burdick

Re: [KX2]

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In reply to this post by Glen Torr-2

Hi Glen,

I don't think we'd design a different portable SSB rig just to make it a through-hole-components kit. We'd either have to make it a lot larger than the KX3 or greatly reduce the number features and level of performance. We did this calculation a few years ago and the KX3 is the right answer :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Feb 5, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Glen Torr <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello Aptos Dudes,
>
> SOTA is exploding in popularity and your product line started with a radio
> named after one the highest.
>
> How about a KX2, through hole, 7 to 24 MHz CW / SSB 20 W. SOTA radio?
>
> I love my KX3 on summits.
>
> Good Wishes,
>
> Glen VK1FB
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Glen Torr-2

Re: [KX2]

Hi Wayne and all,

Thanks for the explanation which makes a lot of sense.

I wonder if the KX2 could be a CW no solder SOTA rig in a KX1 form factor.

Here in VK SSB is much more popular than CW for SOTA and this is a subject
of discussion on the VK SOTA group.

I am determined to do CW and would love an Elecraft SOTA rig.

That said thanks a bunch for the KX3, I can scarcely believe the technology
in this amazing radio.

Thanks for the pleasure you have given me.

Cheers,

Glen VK1FB

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wayne burdick

Re: [KX2]

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Glen,

The KX3 is only a little bigger than the KX1, so I'll stick with my recommendation of the KX3 as the SSB SOTA rig of choice :)

KX1: About 1.5 × 6 x 3 inches

KX3: About 1.7 x 7.5 x 3.5 inches

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Feb 5, 2014, at 11:38 PM, Glen Torr <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Wayne and all,
>
> Thanks for the explanation which makes a lot of sense.
>
> I wonder if the KX2 could be a CW no solder SOTA rig in a KX1 form factor.
>
> Here in VK SSB is much more popular than CW for SOTA and this is a subject of discussion on the VK SOTA group.
>
> I am determined to do CW and would love an Elecraft SOTA rig.
>
> That said thanks a bunch for the KX3, I can scarcely believe the technology in this amazing radio.
>
> Thanks for the pleasure you have given me.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Glen VK1FB
>
>

LA8OKA

Vedr: [KX2]

In reply to this post by wayne burdick

I disagree, the KX3 is not the answer, first of all, you can't build it your self, I would go for a KX1 with SSB (a KX2) with 5 watt and a tuner even if the performance where slightly less and it didn't have all the features of the KX3.
If the performance is important, yes, og for the KX3, but if you want that good old "I built this rig" feeling and SSB is required, a "KX2" would be great!!

Martin Storli
LA8OKA
Oslo, Norway

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Sendt: Onsdag, 5. februar 2014 23.52
Emne: Re: [Elecraft] [KX2]

Hi Glen,

I don't think we'd design a different portable SSB rig just to make it a through-hole-components kit. We'd either have to make it a lot larger than the KX3 or greatly reduce the number features and level of performance. We did this calculation a few years ago and the KX3 is the right answer :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Feb 5, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Glen Torr <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello Aptos Dudes,
>
> SOTA is exploding in popularity and your product line started with a radio
> named after one the highest.
>
> How about a KX2, through hole, 7 to 24 MHz CW / SSB 20 W. SOTA radio?
>
> I love my KX3 on summits.
>
> Good Wishes,
>
> Glen VK1FB
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Dennis Moore

Re: Vedr: [KX2]

I happen to know a company that makes such a product, but it has 10w max
output, not 5w. The company is Elecraft, and the product is the K2/10,
with tuner and SSB.

73, Dennis NJ6G

On 2/6/2014 1:11 PM, Martin Storli - LA8OKA wrote:
> I disagree, the KX3 is not the answer, first of all, you can't build it your self, I would go for a KX1 with SSB (a KX2) with 5 watt and a tuner even if the performance where slightly less and it didn't have all the features of the KX3.
> If the performance is important, yes, og for the KX3, but if you want that good old "I built this rig" feeling and SSB is required, a "KX2" would be great!!

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Jack Chomley

Re: Vedr: [KX2]

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I agree with Martin, the SSB module added to the existing KX1. The KX1 being a builders kit radio now, the space inside may be at a premium, so the SSB module could be a pre made one as surface mount components, so it could fit inside, without making a new case etc?
Is this feasible?

73,

Jack VK4JRC

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> On 7 Feb 2014, at 7:11 am, Martin Storli - LA8OKA <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I disagree, the KX3 is not the answer, first of all, you can't build it your self, I would go for a KX1 with SSB (a KX2) with 5 watt and a tuner even if the performance where slightly less and it didn't have all the features of the KX3.
> If the performance is important, yes, og for the KX3, but if you want that good old "I built this rig" feeling and SSB is required, a "KX2" would be great!!
>
> Martin Storli
> LA8OKA
> Oslo, Norway
>
> ARCTICPEAK's Radio pages!
> http://www.arcticpeak.com/radio.htm
>
>
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> Sendt: Onsdag, 5. februar 2014 23.52
> Emne: Re: [Elecraft] [KX2]
>
>
> Hi Glen,
>
> I don't think we'd design a different portable SSB rig just to make it a through-hole-components kit. We'd either have to make it a lot larger than the KX3 or greatly reduce the number features and level of performance. We did this calculation a few years ago and the KX3 is the right answer :)
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>> On Feb 5, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Glen Torr <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Aptos Dudes,
>>
>> SOTA is exploding in popularity and your product line started with a radio
>> named after one the highest.
>>
>> How about a KX2, through hole, 7 to 24 MHz CW / SSB 20 W. SOTA radio?
>>
>> I love my KX3 on summits.
>>
>> Good Wishes,
>>
>> Glen VK1FB
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Raymond Sills

Re: Vedr: [KX2]

Well, as much as some would like Elecraft to make a "KX2".... it looks
like it's not going to happen. Wayne has said as much.

Even if as many as 100 people wanted such a rig, it's likely that it
would not be fiscally feasible for Elecraft to market one.

But, if some adventurous person wanted design one, and put it on the
market..... certainly some people would be interested.
Who's going to put up the capital for such a venture?

73 de Ray
K2ULR

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Jack Chomley

Re: Vedr: [KX2]

Ray,

The most feasible way would be a retrofit surface mount prebuilt SSB module and its interface requirements for the existing KX1.
People still build the radio but simply add the SSB module IF they want it.
Like everything......publicise an expression of interest request, see what happens.
No, Elecraft don't have to make it but, it would be nice if they did :-)
Look at the HCT, started as a project and evolved into a product, specifically
for one radio model, the KX3.
I wonder how many KX1s have been sold, to date?

73,

Jack VK4JRC

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> On 7 Feb 2014, at 7:28 am, Ray Sills <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Well, as much as some would like Elecraft to make a "KX2".... it looks like it's not going to happen. Wayne has said as much.
>
> Even if as many as 100 people wanted such a rig, it's likely that it would not be fiscally feasible for Elecraft to market one.
>
> But, if some adventurous person wanted design one, and put it on the market..... certainly some people would be interested.
> Who's going to put up the capital for such a venture?
>
> 73 de Ray
> K2ULR
>
>
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EricJ-2

Re: Vedr: [KX2]

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Find out:

https://www.kickstarter.com/

Eric
KE6US

On 2/6/2014 1:28 PM, Ray Sills wrote:
> But, if some adventurous person wanted design one, and put it on the
> market..... certainly some people would be interested.
> *Who's going to put up the capital for such a venture? *
>
> 73 de Ray
> K2ULR

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Jessie Oberreuter-2

Re: Vedr: [KX2]

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Anyone remember this?

http://www.i0cg.com/k1_page.htm

Giuliano made an SSB board for his K1 :).

The K1 is a great trail friendly radio, and it has a lot more mod
space than the KX1!

On Fri, 7 Feb 2014, Jack Chomley wrote:

> Ray,
>
> The most feasible way would be a retrofit surface mount prebuilt SSB module and its interface requirements for the existing KX1.
> People still build the radio but simply add the SSB module IF they want it.
> Like everything......publicise an expression of interest request, see what happens.
> No, Elecraft don't have to make it but, it would be nice if they did :-)
> Look at the HCT, started as a project and evolved into a product, specifically
> for one radio model, the KX3.
> I wonder how many KX1s have been sold, to date?
>
> 73,
>
> Jack VK4JRC
>
> Club. www.cqara.org.au
> Member WIA SARL ARRL
> GQRP #14392
> QRPARCI #15068
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>
>> On 7 Feb 2014, at 7:28 am, Ray Sills <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Well, as much as some would like Elecraft to make a "KX2".... it looks like it's not going to happen. Wayne has said as much.
>>
>> Even if as many as 100 people wanted such a rig, it's likely that it would not be fiscally feasible for Elecraft to market one.
>>
>> But, if some adventurous person wanted design one, and put it on the market..... certainly some people would be interested.
>> Who's going to put up the capital for such a venture?
>>
>> 73 de Ray
>> K2ULR
>>
>>
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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: Vedr: [KX2]

The best suggestion I have seen in this thread is for the K2 with KSB2
option. It is an off-the-shelf kit using thru-hole construction. full
160 through 10 meter bands is possible with the addition of the K160RX
and K60XV options. The K2 is not too large for portable operation, and
it is a full featured transceiver with dual VFOs, Split capability, and
with additional options such as the KAT2 and the KBT2, it is quite
capable of SOTA operation with a variety of antennas, either CW or SSB
or Data modes. The K2/10 is quite lightweight if the internal battery
is not included.

While Giuliano's K1 SSB addition would work, it has limitations - the
base K1 has limited bands and a limited VFO tuning range. Giuliano's SSB
addition is not available as a kit - so it is only for those who want to
lend their skills to homebrew (that is OK for some, but not the majority).
The K1 with the internal tuner and the internal battery pack does not
leave much internal space for the addition of anything like a SSB addition.

I do not think Elecraft will be forthcoming with another thru-hole kit.

The KX3 is a more capable transceiver than the K2, and is in a smaller
package -- so the appeal is only for those who want to "build it
yourself", and the K2 is the best answer in today's world unless
significant compromises are acceptable.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/6/2014 5:11 PM, Jessie Oberreuter wrote:

>
> Anyone remember this?
>
> http://www.i0cg.com/k1_page.htm
>
> Giuliano made an SSB board for his K1 :).
>
> The K1 is a great trail friendly radio, and it has a lot more mod
> space than the KX1!
>
>

k6dgw

Re: Vedr: [KX2]

I use my K2/10 with a LiFePO4 battery for SOTA activations. It has the
KAT3 although when I use the Alexloop I bypass the ATU. It also has the
SSB module which I've never used, no mic. Admittedly, I'm somewhat
orthopedically-challenged so my activations tend to be on the tame side,
but it is a super radio, and my pack weighs about 25 lbs. The weight
isn't a problem for me, but the pack does raise my center-of-mass
creating balance and stability problems in really challenging terrain.
Someone younger would have no problem

I can't speak to Giulianos K1 SSB addition, I've only used a K1 one
time. I have a KX1 [40/30/20] which I usually take as a back-up. I
rarely operate SSB and never when QRP in the field.

I've been curious where Elecraft would go after the K3 and KX3. The
KX1, K1, and K2 are essentially mature products [which doesn't mean
they're obsolete by any means]. The field radio market is getting a bit
crowded these days. Some incremental things might be viable for the K3
[200W internal PA, internal VHF/UHF capability, ???]. I think the
KPA1500 is off the table? I really doubt a through-hole "KX2" is likely.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
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On 2/6/2014 3:00 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> The K2 is not too large for portable operation, and
> it is a full featured transceiver with dual VFOs, Split capability, and
> with additional options such as the KAT2 and the KBT2, it is quite
> capable of SOTA operation with a variety of antennas, either CW or SSB
> or Data modes. The K2/10 is quite lightweight if the internal battery
> is not included.

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LA8OKA

Vedr: Vedr: [KX2]

In reply to this post by Dennis Moore

I do have the K2, but it's way to big to have in the backpack.

Martin Storli
LA8OKA
Oslo, Norway

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Emne: Re: [Elecraft] Vedr: [KX2]

I happen to know a company that makes such a product, but it has 10w max
output, not 5w. The company is Elecraft, and the product is the K2/10,
with tuner and SSB.

73, Dennis NJ6G

On 2/6/2014 1:11 PM, Martin Storli - LA8OKA wrote:
> I disagree, the KX3 is not the answer, first of all, you can't build it your self, I would go for a KX1 with SSB (a KX2) with 5 watt and a tuner even if the performance where slightly less and it didn't have all the features of the KX3.
> If the performance is important, yes, og for the KX3, but if you want that good old "I built this rig" feeling and SSB is required, a "KX2" would be great!!

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Gary Gregory-2

Re: Vedr: Vedr: [KX2]

200w PA as an option for the K3?....oh yeah....I just feel a need to add to
Wayne and Erics retirement account.....:-)

73
Gary
On 07/02/2014 7:04 PM, "Martin Storli - LA8OKA" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I do have the K2, but it's way to big to have in the backpack.
>
>
> Martin Storli
> LA8OKA
> Oslo, Norway
>
> ARCTICPEAK's Radio pages!
> http://www.arcticpeak.com/radio.htm
>
>
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> Emne: Re: [Elecraft] Vedr: [KX2]
>
>
> I happen to know a company that makes such a product, but it has 10w max
> output, not 5w. The company is Elecraft, and the product is the K2/10,
> with tuner and SSB.
>
> 73, Dennis NJ6G
>
>
> On 2/6/2014 1:11 PM, Martin Storli - LA8OKA wrote:
> > I disagree, the KX3 is not the answer, first of all, you can't build it
> your self, I would go for a KX1 with SSB (a KX2) with 5 watt and a tuner
> even if the performance where slightly less and it didn't have all the
> features of the KX3.
> > If the performance is important, yes, og for the KX3, but if you want
> that good old "I built this rig" feeling and SSB is required, a "KX2" would
> be great!!
>
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Vic Rosenthal

Re: Vedr: Vedr: [KX2]

I'd like this, too. I know it's only 3 dB, but there are contests that
define the "low power" class as 150 watts or less. Some amplifiers
require more than 100W drive for full output. And of course the US
regulations allow 200W on 10 MHz.

On 2/7/2014 9:40 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:
> 200w PA as an option for the K3?....oh yeah....I just feel a need to add to
> Wayne and Erics retirement account.....:-)
>
> 73
> Gary

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