KX3 CW keying problem
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Petr, I have exactly the same issue here, seems to be with keyer, and I have
a new paddle from Elecraft Especially with the right dah key I have inadvertent dits generated before and sometimes after a correct T send. I often get a R or N, and it is very annoying. I have tried FW reload and stronger springs to no avail. It seems the KX3 keyer has a mind of its own and cannot generate clean cw. Let me know if you find a solution please ? 73 A.Fewster I've been using KX3 for some time now and still have some problems with CW keying. I'm using squeeze keying Curtis A. In the KX3 menu, there is selected A squeeze mode but during the QSO, it seems that the B is still enabled. The internal keyer very often adds dash, sometimes dot. It's horrible, because of that, I have to use an external keyer (TinyKeyer by Martin, OK1RR). It seems the problem is not with the paddle, I tried to use two paddles - Mercury N2DAN paddle from Bencher and Electraft Hexkey paddle. Still the same result. It's really annoying because when I operate from portable, I have to take care also about external keyer. What could be the problem? KX3 SN is 7742 with latest firmware installed. I love CW (HSC, CWOPS, FOC) and this keying issue is the only thing I don't like on my KX3. Thanks for your help 73 Petr, OK2CQR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Kent yes i did try that. I prefer Iambic A as Petr does, his experience
is identical to mine. I had tried iambic B previous to your advice with no change, and i don't use squeeze keying in any case. this is testing at 15 wpm. The issue is random, and sometimes I can nearly get through a CQ without it messing up. On my Yaesu rigs, same procedure, I have no issue and the send is perfect heard & tested with cwget monitor. On the KX3 I can tap for a dah and sometimes get a dit-dat-dit or dah-dit. When sending the 4 in my call I often get a dit after the last dah. or a dah-dit on the T. How the right paddle can produce a dit is beyond me. Left is set dit. I have played with weight and delay settings also to no avail. Thankyou for your response. 73 Adrian Fewster On 23/11/20 2:55 pm, K9ZTV wrote: > Adrian ... > > Before taking any drastic measures, switch to the other Iambic mode from what you are currently using and see if that helps. If using Iambic A, switch to Iambic B or vice-versa. It’s in the CONFIG menu. > > 73, > > Kent K9ZTV > >> On Nov 22, 2020, at 9:09 PM, Adrian <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Petr, I have exactly the same issue here, seems to be with keyer, and I have >> a new paddle from Elecraft >> >> >> >> Especially with the right dah key I have inadvertent dits generated before >> and sometimes after a correct T send. >> >> >> >> I often get a R or N, and it is very annoying. I have tried FW reload and >> stronger springs to no avail. >> >> >> >> It seems the KX3 keyer has a mind of its own and cannot generate clean cw. >> >> >> >> Let me know if you find a solution please ? >> >> >> >> 73 >> >> >> >> A.Fewster >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I've been using KX3 for some time now and still have some problems >> >> with CW keying. I'm using squeeze keying Curtis A. In the KX3 menu, >> >> there is selected A squeeze mode but during the QSO, it seems that the >> >> B is still enabled. The internal keyer very often adds dash, sometimes >> >> dot. It's horrible, because of that, I have to use an external keyer >> >> (TinyKeyer by Martin, OK1RR). >> >> >> >> It seems the problem is not with the paddle, I tried to use two >> >> paddles - Mercury N2DAN paddle from Bencher and Electraft Hexkey >> >> paddle. Still the same result. It's really annoying because when I >> >> operate from portable, I have to take care also about external keyer. >> >> What could be the problem? KX3 SN is 7742 with latest firmware >> >> installed. >> >> >> [hidden email] >> I love CW (HSC, CWOPS, FOC) and this keying issue is the only thing I >> >> don't like on my KX3. >> >> >> >> Thanks for your help >> >> >> >> 73 Petr, OK2CQR >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Also I found an interesting blog by Tony VK3CAT ;
https://vk3cat.wordpress.com/elecraft-kx3-experiences-from-the-field/ I will look at the 4 pin socket tomorrow, and probably rework the soldering. 73 Adrian Fewster On 23/11/20 2:55 pm, K9ZTV wrote: > Adrian ... > > Before taking any drastic measures, switch to the other Iambic mode from what you are currently using and see if that helps. If using Iambic A, switch to Iambic B or vice-versa. It’s in the CONFIG menu. > > 73, > > Kent K9ZTV > >> On Nov 22, 2020, at 9:09 PM, Adrian <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Petr, I have exactly the same issue here, seems to be with keyer, and I have >> a new paddle from Elecraft >> >> >> >> Especially with the right dah key I have inadvertent dits generated before >> and sometimes after a correct T send. >> >> >> >> I often get a R or N, and it is very annoying. I have tried FW reload and >> stronger springs to no avail. >> >> >> >> It seems the KX3 keyer has a mind of its own and cannot generate clean cw. >> >> >> >> Let me know if you find a solution please ? >> >> >> >> 73 >> >> >> >> A.Fewster >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I've been using KX3 for some time now and still have some problems >> >> with CW keying. I'm using squeeze keying Curtis A. In the KX3 menu, >> >> there is selected A squeeze mode but during the QSO, it seems that the >> >> B is still enabled. The internal keyer very often adds dash, sometimes >> >> dot. It's horrible, because of that, I have to use an external keyer >> >> (TinyKeyer by Martin, OK1RR). >> >> >> >> It seems the problem is not with the paddle, I tried to use two >> >> paddles - Mercury N2DAN paddle from Bencher and Electraft Hexkey >> >> paddle. Still the same result. It's really annoying because when I >> >> operate from portable, I have to take care also about external keyer. >> >> What could be the problem? KX3 SN is 7742 with latest firmware >> >> installed. >> >> >> >> I love CW (HSC, CWOPS, FOC) and this keying issue is the only thing I >> >> don't like on my KX3. >> >> >> >> Thanks for your help >> >> >> >> 73 Petr, OK2CQR >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Kent, yes and the KXPD3 is brand new just received from Elecraft,
which has the new wired paddle design. I think that is ok, but I suspect a connection issue via J9 > pcb, or a keyer fault. Adrian Fewster On 24/11/20 5:16 am, K9ZTV wrote: > Are you using the little Elecraft paddle attached to the rig? If so, there is a known grounding issue in early paddles. > > Kent K9ZTV > >> On Nov 22, 2020, at 11:16 PM, Adrian <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Kent yes i did try that. I prefer Iambic A as Petr does, his experience is identical to mine. >> >> I had tried iambic B previous to your advice with no change, and i don't use squeeze keying in any case. this is testing at 15 wpm. >> >> The issue is random, and sometimes I can nearly get through a CQ without it messing up. >> >> On my Yaesu rigs, same procedure, I have no issue and the send is perfect heard & tested with cwget monitor. >> >> On the KX3 I can tap for a dah and sometimes get a dit-dat-dit or dah-dit. When sending the 4 in my call I often get a dit after the last dah. >> >> or a dah-dit on the T. >> >> How the right paddle can produce a dit is beyond me. Left is set dit. >> >> I have played with weight and delay settings also to no avail. Thankyou for your response. >> >> >> 73 >> >> >> Adrian Fewster >> > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Well, I opened the KX3, removed the top/bottom flex connector and the
battery connector to give best access to J9 with the bottom removed and put aside. I cleaned up a fine iron, and re-soldered the four J9 connections to PCB, leaving the paddle fixed in place. I put it all back together, and now the paddle send is perfect, better than expected. So as others have found, the J9 solder connections to the PCB were flawed.. Happy Camper here now. 73 Adrian Fewster On 24/11/20 5:38 am, Adrian wrote: > Kent, yes and the KXPD3 is brand new just received from Elecraft, > > which has the new wired paddle design. > > I think that is ok, but I suspect a connection issue via J9 > pcb, or > a keyer fault. > > Adrian Fewster > > > On 24/11/20 5:16 am, K9ZTV wrote: >> Are you using the little Elecraft paddle attached to the rig? If so, >> there is a known grounding issue in early paddles. >> >> Kent K9ZTV >> >>> On Nov 22, 2020, at 11:16 PM, Adrian <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> Kent yes i did try that. I prefer Iambic A as Petr does, his >>> experience is identical to mine. >>> >>> I had tried iambic B previous to your advice with no change, and i >>> don't use squeeze keying in any case. this is testing at 15 wpm. >>> >>> The issue is random, and sometimes I can nearly get through a CQ >>> without it messing up. >>> >>> On my Yaesu rigs, same procedure, I have no issue and the send is >>> perfect heard & tested with cwget monitor. >>> >>> On the KX3 I can tap for a dah and sometimes get a dit-dat-dit or >>> dah-dit. When sending the 4 in my call I often get a dit after the >>> last dah. >>> >>> or a dah-dit on the T. >>> >>> How the right paddle can produce a dit is beyond me. Left is set dit. >>> >>> I have played with weight and delay settings also to no avail. >>> Thankyou for your response. >>> >>> >>> 73 >>> >>> >>> Adrian Fewster >>> >> Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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