KX3 Mac Utility - I Give Up
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This being the first time I have used the new Mac KX3 Utility
(v1.13.4.29), I still cannot get it to go through an entire load of new FW. It gets about 1/2-way through the DSP update and quits. I only tried once, it quits at roughly the same spot as in the past. I've heard all the "it works fine here" responses so I realize the program works. It just doesn't work for me. Uncle! I give up - Boot-camping into Windows. 73, Joel - W4JBB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Weird… I update my KX3 with my Mac Mini; never had any problem...
Gil. -- PGP Key: http://keskydee.com/gil.asc On May 23, 2013, at 6:18 AM, Joel Black wrote: > This being the first time I have used the new Mac KX3 Utility (v1.13.4.29), I still cannot get it to go through an entire load of new FW. It gets about 1/2-way through the DSP update and quits. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: KX3 Mac Utility - I Give Up
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Joel,
I suspect you may have a marginal KXUSB adapter. While it may work okay with the Windows driver, it seems to not be reliable using the OS X driver. I've seen this happen before. It could start failing on Windows too at some point. Try contacting Elecraft support and see if they will send you another KXUSB to try. This is assuming you have the most current FTDI driver installed on your Mac. David, W4SMT ________________________________ From: Gil G. <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Mac Utility - I Give Up Weird… I update my KX3 with my Mac Mini; never had any problem... Gil. -- PGP Key: http://keskydee.com/gil.asc On May 23, 2013, at 6:18 AM, Joel Black wrote: > This being the first time I have used the new Mac KX3 Utility (v1.13.4.29), I still cannot get it to go through an entire load of new FW. It gets about 1/2-way through the DSP update and quits. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Joel,
I've noticed an apparent memory leak in the Mac KX3 Utility app. After the leak hits some critical threshold, the app crashes on me. My apologies to Elecraft for not yet submitting a bug report. To check if this is your problem: open the Apple Mac app "Activity Monitor" and click the "System Memory" tab. Then choose "Windowed Processes" from the menu to make it easier to find the "Elecraft KX3 Utility" process in the list. Now run the KX3 Utility and start the firmware download. Watch the free memory (green in pie chart); if it's dropping like the gas gauge in an SUV, and if the Real and Virtual Memory numbers for the KX3 Utility process are rising, then you would seem to be on the right track. My workaround: I have 8 GB of (real) memory, which is high enough that I don't always get into trouble. Sometimes quitting other memory-hoggish Mac apps helps, but mainly I download firmware into my KX3 only with a fresh instance of the KX3 Utility. E.g., if I download the KX3 microprocessor code (successfully), then start downloading the DSP code without quitting and relaunching the KX3 Utility app, it usually crashes. So launch KX3 utility, download microprocessor code, quit KX3 utility, launch KX3 utility, download DSP code, quit KX3 utility. 73, Bob NZ9E
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If you are using USB to serial gizmo get a genuine FTDI one (you can buy
them from digikey). I've had lots of strange issues with serial SW since "real" serial ports disappeared. They all ended up being dodgy drivers for the cheapy serial things. The FTDI USB devices have 100% fixed these problems. Peter VK4JD -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Joel Black Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2013 8:19 PM To: elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Mac Utility - I Give Up This being the first time I have used the new Mac KX3 Utility (v1.13.4.29), I still cannot get it to go through an entire load of new FW. It gets about 1/2-way through the DSP update and quits. I only tried once, it quits at roughly the same spot as in the past. I've heard all the "it works fine here" responses so I realize the program works. It just doesn't work for me. Uncle! I give up - Boot-camping into Windows. 73, Joel - W4JBB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Bob,
Loading MCU, stopping the app, restarting the app, and loading the DSP code fixed my issue. Trying to load both, one right after the other, I watched my free memory drop to 1.31GB and then the app just quit. Ironically, the activity monitor showed the app not responding both times although it was clearly responding. Thanks, Joel - W4JBB On 5/23/13 1:22 PM, NZ9E wrote: > Joel, > > I've noticed an apparent memory leak in the Mac KX3 Utility app. After the > leak hits some critical threshold, the app crashes on me. My apologies to > Elecraft for not yet submitting a bug report. > > To check if this is your problem: open the Apple Mac app "Activity Monitor" > and click the "System Memory" tab. Then choose "Windowed Processes" from > the menu to make it easier to find the "Elecraft KX3 Utility" process in the > list. Now run the KX3 Utility and start the firmware download. Watch the > free memory (green in pie chart); if it's dropping like the gas gauge in an > SUV, and if the Real and Virtual Memory numbers for the KX3 Utility process > are rising, then you would seem to be on the right track. > > My workaround: I have 8 GB of (real) memory, which is high enough that I > don't always get into trouble. Sometimes quitting other memory-hoggish Mac > apps helps, but mainly I download firmware into my KX3 only with a fresh > instance of the KX3 Utility. E.g., if I download the KX3 microprocessor > code (successfully), then start downloading the DSP code without quitting > and relaunching the KX3 Utility app, it usually crashes. So launch KX3 > utility, download microprocessor code, quit KX3 utility, launch KX3 utility, > download DSP code, quit KX3 utility. > > 73, > Bob NZ9E > > > W4JBB wrote >> This being the first time I have used the new Mac KX3 Utility >> (v1.13.4.29), I still cannot get it to go through an entire load of new >> FW. It gets about 1/2-way through the DSP update and quits. I only >> tried once, it quits at roughly the same spot as in the past. > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-Mac-Utility-I-Give-Up-tp7574059p7574120.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Joel,
Thanks for the reminder, I forgot about that. It might be a clue to fix the problem; I'll add the "not responding" observation to my bug report to Elecraft. Apparently the app is in so tight a loop, pushing code to the KX3, that the app isn't sending the "I'm still alive" message to the OS. 73 Bob NZ9E
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On 5/23/2013 3:19 PM, Joel Black wrote:
> Trying to load both, one right after the other, I watched my free memory > drop to 1.31GB and then the app just quit. The Apollo Guidance Computer, which got us to the moon multiple times, had 36 kilowords of program ROM [literally hard *wired* core memory], and 2 kilowords of volatile core memory, all 16 bit words [15 data+parity no floating point], and it did "rocket science calcs" all the way to the moon and back. The Win 7 machine I send on here has 8 GB of RAM and one terabyte of disk spread over two 500 GB drives. Admittedly, it has a somewhat more visually appealing user interface than the DSKY the astronauts used, and it handles the Internet very nicely, something that was just being invented at the end of the 60's, but I really do wonder where all the memory has gone. I wonder sometimes, not often, what Windows and the applications do with all of it. Salesman in the Sprint store was regaling me with the amount of memory in the various phones he wanted to sell me. I was sort of still at, "They have HOW much memory?" I don't know what the various Elecraft radios and accessories have, I do know that new features come out periodically and none of the old ones go away, so apparently they designed in some "mission creep." 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013 - www.cqp.org ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Our KUSB and KXUSB adapters use the FTDI chip set.
73, Eric elecraft.com On 5/23/2013 2:39 PM, Peter Lambert wrote: > If you are using USB to serial gizmo get a genuine FTDI one (you can buy > them from digikey). I've had lots of strange issues with serial SW since > "real" serial ports disappeared. They all ended up being dodgy drivers for > the cheapy serial things. The FTDI USB devices have 100% fixed these > problems. > > Peter VK4JD > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Joel Black > Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2013 8:19 PM > To: elecraft > Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Mac Utility - I Give Up > > This being the first time I have used the new Mac KX3 Utility (v1.13.4.29), > I still cannot get it to go through an entire load of new FW. It gets about > 1/2-way through the DSP update and quits. I only tried once, it quits at > roughly the same spot as in the past. > > I've heard all the "it works fine here" responses so I realize the program > works. It just doesn't work for me. > > Uncle! I give up - Boot-camping into Windows. > > 73, > Joel - W4JBB > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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