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KX3 / NaP3 Display Images

Jim Bennett
Over the course of the past several weeks I've been messing around getting my KX3 to work with the free panadapter display program NaP3. I enjoy using the P3 with my K3 and wanted something similar for the KX3. NaP3 seems to fit that wish pretty well, and it's free!

However, there is one issue that I am not able to resolve, and I'm not the only one seeing it. At least two other KX3 owners that I know about have experienced this issue and I'm wondering if there is a fix, or is it just the way it is. Also, what causes it - KX3 design or something out of whack in NaP3? Here's what the issue is:

When I look at the Panadapter view of a band segment, there are almost always TWO places where a signal is seen. One is usually a tad stronger (peaking higher) than the other. As I turn the dial on the KX3, they move in opposite directions. Only ONE is the "real" signal - the other is a mirror. It isn't a huge problem, but does cause me to tune to dead space if I've selected the wrong one. :-(

Is there a way to eliminate this mirror image situation?

Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
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Re: KX3 / NaP3 Display Images

Don Wilhelm-4
Jim,

NaP3 has a mirror image rejection algorithm.  Tune to an S-9 or greater
signal and wait a bit to allow it to work  The stronger the signal, the
faster it will be corrected.  An XG3 set to -33 dBm will work quite nicely.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/5/2014 4:35 PM, Jim Bennett wrote:
> Over the course of the past several weeks I've been messing around getting my KX3 to work with the free panadapter display program NaP3. I enjoy using the P3 with my K3 and wanted something similar for the KX3. NaP3 seems to fit that wish pretty well, and it's free!
>
> However, there is one issue that I am not able to resolve, and I'm not the only one seeing it. At least two other KX3 owners that I know about have experienced this issue and I'm wondering if there is a fix, or is it just the way it is. Also, what causes it - KX3 design or something out of whack in NaP3? Here's what the issue is:
>
> When I look at the Panadapter view of a band segment, there are almost always TWO places where a signal is seen. One is usually a tad stronger (peaking higher) than the other. As I turn the dial on the KX3, they move in opposite directions. Only ONE is the "real" signal - the other is a mirror. It isn't a huge problem, but does cause me to tune to dead space if I've selected the wrong one. :-(
>
> Is there a way to eliminate this mirror image situation?
>
>

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Re: KX3 / NaP3 Display Images

Tony Estep
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:

> ..Tune to an S-9 or greater signal and wait a bit to allow it to work  The
> stronger the signal, the faster it will be corrected.  An XG3...

=========
What Don said. I keep my XG3 connected to the RX Ant input. When my NaP3
loses its mind, I flip to the RX ant, put a loud signal in, and wait. If
the signal is S9+30 or so, it fixes the image problem instantly. With an
actual signal coming in over the air, it is not so reliable. However, the
image correction algorithm in NaP3 works perfectly if used correctly with a
strong injected signal.

Tony KT0NY
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Re: KX3 / NaP3 Display Images

Kenneth Christiansen
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Hi Jim

You should check your AUDIO CARD
Right click on the speaker icon
Left click Recording devices
Left click on the Device you are using to for the NNaP3
Left click PROPERTIES
Left click Advanced
Choose 2 tone 16 bit at the highest rate of your SOUND CARD Mine is 48000
Check Allow applications to take control of the device
Check Give exclusive mode applications priority

Do the DSP Calibrate test with a strong signal.

I hope that fixes it for you as it sure works well for me.

73

Ken W0CZ w0cz at i29 dot net

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> On Mar 5, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Jim Bennett <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Over the course of the past several weeks I've been messing around getting my KX3 to work with the free panadapter display program NaP3. I enjoy using the P3 with my K3 and wanted something similar for the KX3. NaP3 seems to fit that wish pretty well, and it's free!
>
> However, there is one issue that I am not able to resolve, and I'm not the only one seeing it. At least two other KX3 owners that I know about have experienced this issue and I'm wondering if there is a fix, or is it just the way it is. Also, what causes it - KX3 design or something out of whack in NaP3? Here's what the issue is:
>
> When I look at the Panadapter view of a band segment, there are almost always TWO places where a signal is seen. One is usually a tad stronger (peaking higher) than the other. As I turn the dial on the KX3, they move in opposite directions. Only ONE is the "real" signal - the other is a mirror. It isn't a huge problem, but does cause me to tune to dead space if I've selected the wrong one. :-(
>
> Is there a way to eliminate this mirror image situation?
>
> Tnx, Jim / W6JHB
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