A while back Wayne suggested using a netbook with the KX3 to log and run SDR software. Someone else –I don’t remember who - warned that most net books don’t have stereo mic inputs. I looked for a light cheap laptop with stereo inputs. I checked a couple of dozen from Asus, hp, Lenovo, and Toshiba. No netbook that I can find has stereo inputs. All, of course have stereo outputs.
In fact, I can’t find any current production laptop that has stereo inputs except the Apple MacBook series and it doesn’t run windows natively, though there are a couple of hypervisor solutions. There are hundreds of models and I didn’t check every one but did check 25 or 30. I did call Dell and hp and ask them. There may be some and if there are I would love to know a brand and model. My next thought was so called USB sound cards. On the high end (price of a netbook and size of a KX3) there are lots of choices. There seem to be a number of Altoids tin sized USB “sound cards” some have stereo mic and / or line inputs and some don’t. Almost all the external devices emphasize the output functions and are skimpy on the input specs. I guess this is a long winded way of asking if during development and field test some thought could be given to a light weight package in the spirt of the KX3 itself that is tested and known to work. I would see this as KX3, netbook, and "a small USB sound card." Alternatively, if there is a reasonably priced light laptop with the requisite capabilities that would be fine too. 73 John N6MNX John Fogarty [hidden email] Us Mobile 001 310 994 4625 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Outside of netbooks, the iPad supports real time sdr operation with the
"iSDR' app. 73, Eric WA6HHQ www.elecraft.com On 6/1/2011 2:07 PM, Forums wrote: > A while back Wayne suggested using a netbook with the KX3 to log and run SDR software. Someone else –I don’t remember who - warned that most net books don’t have stereo mic inputs. I looked for a light cheap laptop with stereo inputs. I checked a couple of dozen from Asus, hp, Lenovo, and Toshiba. No netbook that I can find has stereo inputs. All, of course have stereo outputs. > > In fact, I can’t find any current production laptop that has stereo inputs except the Apple MacBook series and it doesn’t run windows natively, though there are a couple of hypervisor solutions. There are hundreds of models and I didn’t check every one but did check 25 or 30. I did call Dell and hp and ask them. There may be some and if there are I would love to know a brand and model. > > My next thought was so called USB sound cards. On the high end (price of a netbook and size of a KX3) there are lots of choices. There seem to be a number of Altoids tin sized USB “sound cards” some have stereo mic and / or line inputs and some don’t. Almost all the external devices emphasize the output functions and are skimpy on the input specs. > > I guess this is a long winded way of asking if during development and field test some thought could be given to a light weight package in the spirt of the KX3 itself that is tested and known to work. I would see this as KX3, netbook, and "a small USB sound card." Alternatively, if there is a reasonably priced light laptop with the requisite capabilities that would be fine too. > > 73 John N6MNX > > John Fogarty > [hidden email] > > Us Mobile 001 310 994 4625 > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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The Griffin iMic has a switchable stereo line input/mono mic input.
Works great for me, and quite erasonably priced & sized... 73, Ross N4RP On 6/1/11 5:07 PM, Forums wrote: > A while back Wayne suggested using a netbook with the KX3 to log and run SDR software. Someone else –I don’t remember who - warned that most net books don’t have stereo mic inputs. I looked for a light cheap laptop with stereo inputs. I checked a couple of dozen from Asus, hp, Lenovo, and Toshiba. No netbook that I can find has stereo inputs. All, of course have stereo outputs. -- FCC Section 97.313(a) “At all times, an amateur station must use the minimum transmitter power necessary to carry out the desired communications.” ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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While not a netbook, my full-sized (17.3") HP dv7-4171us does have a stereo
input jack. This is one of HPs higher end laptops. The input jack just has a mic symbol on it, but it is in fact, a stereo input. I have confirmed this by plugging in a stereo cable, and listening through headphones. I can hear 60Hz hum pickup in one then the other channel as I touch the tip and then the ring connection on the cable end. This is a simple test you can do with any laptop. Hooking up my iPod to the input, with a suitable stereo source (Pink Floyd Animals) works, too. As Wayne said also, iSDR for the iPhone, iPod and iPad is another option, when coupled with the appropriate audio input device. This is OK for panadapter apps, but I don't know if I would want to multitask and try to log on any of those devices as well. Bruce, N1RX ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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not John Fogarty of CCR??
or just a similar name!! al ve3gam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Forums" <[hidden email]> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 5:07 PM Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 netbook A while back Wayne suggested using a netbook with the KX3 to log and run SDR software. Someone else –I don’t remember who - warned that most net books don’t have stereo mic inputs. I looked for a light cheap laptop with stereo inputs. I checked a couple of dozen from Asus, hp, Lenovo, and Toshiba. No netbook that I can find has stereo inputs. All, of course have stereo outputs. In fact, I can’t find any current production laptop that has stereo inputs except the Apple MacBook series and it doesn’t run windows natively, though there are a couple of hypervisor solutions. There are hundreds of models and I didn’t check every one but did check 25 or 30. I did call Dell and hp and ask them. There may be some and if there are I would love to know a brand and model. My next thought was so called USB sound cards. On the high end (price of a netbook and size of a KX3) there are lots of choices. There seem to be a number of Altoids tin sized USB “sound cards” some have stereo mic and / or line inputs and some don’t. Almost all the external devices emphasize the output functions and are skimpy on the input specs. I guess this is a long winded way of asking if during development and field test some thought could be given to a light weight package in the spirt of the KX3 itself that is tested and known to work. I would see this as KX3, netbook, and "a small USB sound card." Alternatively, if there is a reasonably priced light laptop with the requisite capabilities that would be fine too. 73 John N6MNX John Fogarty [hidden email] Us Mobile 001 310 994 4625 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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No, that would be Fogerty...
> not John Fogarty of CCR?? > or just a similar name!! > al ve3gam ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
ah phooey,
loved that group's songs, have an old 3 record set of theirs Al ve3gam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Beford" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 netbook > No, that would be Fogerty... > >> not John Fogarty of CCR?? >> or just a similar name!! > >> al ve3gam > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Jun 1, 2011, at 4:07 PM, Forums wrote: > ... any current production laptop that has stereo inputs except the Apple MacBook series and it doesn’t run windows natively, Actually Macs do run Windoze natively-- with Bootcamp. And quite well. Grant/NQ5T ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Don't forget you need a netbook with a serial port too.
--- On Wed, 6/1/11, Forums <[hidden email]> wrote: > A while back Wayne suggested using a > netbook with the KX3 to log and run SDR software. > Someone else –I don’t remember who - warned that most > net books don’t have stereo mic inputs. I looked for > a light cheap laptop with stereo inputs. I checked a > couple of dozen from Asus, hp, Lenovo, and Toshiba. No > netbook that I can find has stereo inputs. All, of > course have stereo outputs. > > In fact, I can’t find any current production laptop that > has stereo inputs except the Apple MacBook series and it > doesn’t run windows natively, though there are a couple of > hypervisor solutions. There are hundreds of models and > I didn’t check every one but did check 25 or 30. I did > call Dell and hp and ask them. There may be some and if > there are I would love to know a brand and model. > > My next thought was so called USB sound cards. On the > high end (price of a netbook and size of a KX3) there are > lots of choices. There seem to be a number of Altoids > tin sized USB “sound cards” some have stereo mic and / > or line inputs and some don’t. Almost all the > external devices emphasize the output functions and are > skimpy on the input specs. > > I guess this is a long winded way of asking if during > development and field test some thought could be given to a > light weight package in the spirt of the KX3 itself that is > tested and known to work. I would see this as KX3, > netbook, and "a small USB sound card." Alternatively, > if there is a reasonably priced light laptop with the > requisite capabilities that would be fine too. > > 73 John N6MNX > > John Fogarty > [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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USB-serial adapters work fine for this. -Bruce, N1RX
> Don't forget you need a netbook with a serial port too. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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This makes the KX3 almost irresistible -- and it was pretty darn
attractive already. Reviews of iSDR don't mention things like bandwidth, unfortunately. Any idea how iSDR on an iPad actually performs as a panadapter? It may not be necessary to buy a commercial gadget like the iMic to get stereo sound input to the iPad. A bit of googling found a claim that stereo line-in to an iPad can be done with pins 2, 5, and 6 of the dock connector to a 1/8" stereo plug. I'd try to confirm that before making a cable and plugging things together, though. Peter W0LLN On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote: > Outside of netbooks, the iPad supports real time sdr operation with the > "iSDR' app. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Faberacoustical.com reports that this simple line-in only works with
iPhone, not with iPad. Apparently the Griffin iMic does work, though, through the camera connection socket. So, imperfect, but the KX3 - iPad combination is still very attractive. I have the iPad, just need to wait for the KX3. Peter W0LLN On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Peter Wollan <[hidden email]> wrote: > This makes the KX3 almost irresistible -- and it was pretty darn > attractive already. Reviews of iSDR don't mention things like > bandwidth, unfortunately. Any idea how iSDR on an iPad actually > performs as a panadapter? > > It may not be necessary to buy a commercial gadget like the iMic to > get stereo sound input to the iPad. A bit of googling found a claim > that stereo line-in to an iPad can be done with pins 2, 5, and 6 of > the dock connector to a 1/8" stereo plug. I'd try to confirm that > before making a cable and plugging things together, though. > > Peter W0LLN > > > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Outside of netbooks, the iPad supports real time sdr operation with the >> "iSDR' app. > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I am too but my MacBookPro is 6.6 lbs without the power supply. I hope for an under 5 pound package radio, computer and antenna. Radio = 1.5 Computer=2.75 Antenna= .75. Probably a bit of a stretch but I can hope.
On Jun 1, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > I'm a Mac guy, so I just assumed everybody had dual mic inputs. I'll take a look around for netbooks that do. The USB soundcard adapters are a definite possibility. > > Wayne ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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How does the iMic work with iPad? The description shows it as USB to audio connectors. No Apple docking connector.
Rick N6XI On Jun 1, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Peter Wollan <[hidden email]> wrote: > Faberacoustical.com reports that this simple line-in only works with > iPhone, not with iPad. Apparently the Griffin iMic does work, though, > through the camera connection socket. > > So, imperfect, but the KX3 - iPad combination is still very > attractive. I have the iPad, just need to wait for the KX3. > > Peter W0LLN > > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Peter Wollan <[hidden email]> wrote: >> This makes the KX3 almost irresistible -- and it was pretty darn >> attractive already. Reviews of iSDR don't mention things like >> bandwidth, unfortunately. Any idea how iSDR on an iPad actually >> performs as a panadapter? >> >> It may not be necessary to buy a commercial gadget like the iMic to >> get stereo sound input to the iPad. A bit of googling found a claim >> that stereo line-in to an iPad can be done with pins 2, 5, and 6 of >> the dock connector to a 1/8" stereo plug. I'd try to confirm that >> before making a cable and plugging things together, though. >> >> Peter W0LLN >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Outside of netbooks, the iPad supports real time sdr operation with the >>> "iSDR' app. >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
The iSDR website says with mono input you will get 22kHz BW and 44kHz with
stereo input. Greg AB7R On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Rick Tavan <[hidden email]> wrote: > How does the iMic work with iPad? The description shows it as USB to audio > connectors. No Apple docking connector. > > Rick N6XI > > On Jun 1, 2011, at 6:23 PM, Peter Wollan <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Faberacoustical.com reports that this simple line-in only works with > > iPhone, not with iPad. Apparently the Griffin iMic does work, though, > > through the camera connection socket. > > > > So, imperfect, but the KX3 - iPad combination is still very > > attractive. I have the iPad, just need to wait for the KX3. > > > > Peter W0LLN > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Peter Wollan <[hidden email]> > wrote: > >> This makes the KX3 almost irresistible -- and it was pretty darn > >> attractive already. Reviews of iSDR don't mention things like > >> bandwidth, unfortunately. Any idea how iSDR on an iPad actually > >> performs as a panadapter? > >> > >> It may not be necessary to buy a commercial gadget like the iMic to > >> get stereo sound input to the iPad. A bit of googling found a claim > >> that stereo line-in to an iPad can be done with pins 2, 5, and 6 of > >> the dock connector to a 1/8" stereo plug. I'd try to confirm that > >> before making a cable and plugging things together, though. > >> > >> Peter W0LLN > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft > >> <[hidden email]> wrote: > >>> Outside of netbooks, the iPad supports real time sdr operation with the > >>> "iSDR' app. > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Rick,
If you get the "camera connector" it has USB connection and the iMic works fine with it. Rick K6LE On 6/1/2011, at 7:56 , Rick Tavan wrote: > How does the iMic work with iPad? The description shows it as USB to audio connectors. No Apple docking connector. > > Rick N6XI > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 14:07:06 -0700, you wrote:
> A while back Wayne suggested using a netbook with the KX3 to log and run SDR software. Someone else I dont remember who - warned that most net books dont have stereo mic inputs. I looked for a light cheap laptop with stereo inputs. I checked a couple of dozen from Asus, hp, Lenovo, and Toshiba. No netbook that I can find has stereo inputs. All, of course have stereo outputs. My new Lenovo S10-3 netbook does have stereo input 16bit 48000Hz. -- OV1A Jens Sent from my desktop PC with a nice big screen and a real keyboard. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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And lots of images with mono input ;-)
Larry N8LP On 6/2/2011 11:27 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 20:06:50 -0700 > From: Greg<[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 netbook > To: Rick Tavan<[hidden email]> > Cc:"[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > Message-ID:<BANLkTik+H45d5EU1OV_=[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > The iSDR website says with mono input you will get 22kHz BW and 44kHz with > stereo input. > > Greg > AB7R ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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There are many USB sound cards/adaptors on the market with stereo input. For example, Griffin Technology iMic USB Audio D evice, about $23 on Amazon. stay away from el-chea po dongles, these are mostly mono. Igor, N1YX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jens Petersen" <[hidden email]> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2011 4:39:27 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 netbook On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 14:07:06 -0700, you wrote: > A while back Wayne suggested using a netbook with the KX3 to log and run SDR software. Someone else –I don’t remember who - warned that most net books don’t have stereo mic inputs. I looked for a light cheap laptop with stereo inputs. I checked a couple of dozen from Asus, hp, Lenovo, and Toshiba. No netbook that I can find has stereo inputs. All, of course have stereo outputs. My new Lenovo S10-3 netbook does have stereo input 16bit 48000Hz. -- OV1A Jens Sent from my desktop PC with a nice big screen and a real keyboard. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Ok, Eric, you asked for it. Ready? Here we go:
How about adding Bluetooth stereo audio, microphone, keyboard, and serial profiles to the KX3? Jim K9YC's valid concerns aside, this would integrate with most modern vehicles hands-free kits and small wireless keyboards. Oh, and a tri-corder. Er, iPad. :-D On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote: > Outside of netbooks, the iPad supports real time sdr operation with the > "iSDR' app. -- 73, Byron N6NUL ---- - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011 - www.cqp.org ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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