KX3 update utility download removed (i.e. blocked) by Norton Internet Security in Windows 7
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Hi all,
My Norton Internet Security removed the KX3 firmware update utility from my Windows 7 PC after I tried to download it, based on crowdsourcing criteria (only a few hundred users and over a year old). Any suggestions on how to get around this? Thanks! Oliver Barrett KB6BA ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: KX3 update utility download removed (i.e. blocked) by Norton Internet Security in Windows 7
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On Fri,3/17/2017 10:52 PM, Oliver Barrett wrote:
> Any suggestions on how to get around this? Easy. Dump Norton. I see repeated issues with that software screwing up ham software. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: KX3 update utility download removed (i.e. blocked) by Norton Internet Security in Windows 7
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I will second that suggestion. Norton takes total control of most all programs and sees ham software as virus. Dumped Norton over a decade ago.
Gene N9TF ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Brown <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 06:05:06 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 update utility download removed (i.e. blocked) by Norton Internet Security in Windows 7 On Fri,3/17/2017 10:52 PM, Oliver Barrett wrote: > Any suggestions on how to get around this? Easy. Dump Norton. I see repeated issues with that software screwing up ham software. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Norton will allow you to override and installs it just fine.
Leroy AB7CE -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Oliver Barrett Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 11:52 PM To: [hidden email] Cc: Oliver Barrett <[hidden email]> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 update utility download removed (i.e. blocked) by Norton Internet Security in Windows 7 Hi all, My Norton Internet Security removed the KX3 firmware update utility from my Windows 7 PC after I tried to download it, based on crowdsourcing criteria (only a few hundred users and over a year old). Any suggestions on how to get around this? Thanks! Oliver Barrett KB6BA ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Agreed!
-----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email] ] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 2:05 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 update utility download removed (i.e. blocked) by Norton Internet Security in Windows 7 On Fri,3/17/2017 10:52 PM, Oliver Barrett wrote: > Any suggestions on how to get around this? Easy. Dump Norton. I see repeated issues with that software screwing up ham software. 73, Jim K9YC ________________________________________ ______________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/ elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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My work and hobbies are not limited to amateur radio.
Many fringe use programs are scrutinized by several different security monitoring software. My main hobby of astrophotography uses programs that trigger extra scrutiny frequently. They are doing their job. Simple as that. Norton allows the intelligent user to control that scrutiny. Be proud you are not running with the sheep that never push the limits. Leroy AB7CE -----Original Message----- From: Ken Talbott Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 6:18 AM To: [hidden email] ; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 update utility download removed (i.e. blocked)by Norton Internet Security in Windows 7 Agreed! -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email] ] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 2:05 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 update utility download removed (i.e. blocked) by Norton Internet Security in Windows 7 On Fri,3/17/2017 10:52 PM, Oliver Barrett wrote: > Any suggestions on how to get around this? Easy. Dump Norton. I see repeated issues with that software screwing up ham software. 73, Jim K9YC ________________________________________ ______________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/ elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Baaa! I resemble that snarky remark.
Norton is the only utility that corrupted my OS and required complete re-installation. Ken ke4rg -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email] ] On Behalf Of lmarion Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 8:54 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 update utility download removed (i.e. blocked)by Norton Internet Security in Windows 7 My work and hobbies are not limited to amateur radio. Many fringe use programs are scrutinized by several different security monitoring software. My main hobby of astrophotography uses programs that trigger extra scrutiny frequently. They are doing their job. Simple as that. Norton allows the intelligent user to control that scrutiny. Be proud you are not running with the sheep that never push the limits. Leroy AB7CE -----Original Message----- From: Ken Talbott Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 6:18 AM To: [hidden email] ; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 update utility download removed (i.e. blocked)by Norton Internet Security in Windows 7 Agreed! -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email] ] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 2:05 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 update utility download removed (i.e. blocked) by Norton Internet Security in Windows 7 On Fri,3/17/2017 10:52 PM, Oliver Barrett wrote: > Any suggestions on how to get around this? Easy. Dump Norton. I see repeated issues with that software screwing up ham software. 73, Jim K9YC ________________________________________ ______________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/ elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ________________________________________ ______________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/ elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ________________________________________ ______________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/ elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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sorry you went thru that annoyance.
I have used Norton exclusively and have never had a virus or a Norton induced problem. 73, Leroy AB7CE -----Original Message----- From: Ken Talbott Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 7:05 AM To: 'lmarion' ; [hidden email] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KX3 update utility download removed (i.e. blocked)by Norton Internet Security in Windows 7 Baaa! I resemble that snarky remark. Norton is the only utility that corrupted my OS and required complete re-installation. Ken ke4rg -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email] ] On Behalf Of lmarion Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 8:54 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 update utility download removed (i.e. blocked)by Norton Internet Security in Windows 7 My work and hobbies are not limited to amateur radio. Many fringe use programs are scrutinized by several different security monitoring software. My main hobby of astrophotography uses programs that trigger extra scrutiny frequently. They are doing their job. Simple as that. Norton allows the intelligent user to control that scrutiny. Be proud you are not running with the sheep that never push the limits. Leroy AB7CE -----Original Message----- From: Ken Talbott Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 6:18 AM To: [hidden email] ; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 update utility download removed (i.e. blocked)by Norton Internet Security in Windows 7 Agreed! -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email] ] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 2:05 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 update utility download removed (i.e. blocked) by Norton Internet Security in Windows 7 On Fri,3/17/2017 10:52 PM, Oliver Barrett wrote: > Any suggestions on how to get around this? Easy. Dump Norton. I see repeated issues with that software screwing up ham software. 73, Jim K9YC ________________________________________ ______________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/ elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ________________________________________ ______________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/ elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ________________________________________ ______________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/ elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: KX3 update utility download removed (i.e. blocked) by Norton Internet Security in Windows 7
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I would dump Norton's
Years ago (when Norton had it) his stuff was pretty good Symantec, seems to have turned most the stuff Norton wrote into bloatware. I have never had a virus and I've been working with computers for over 35 years. What I now use is simply the Microsoft security essentials (and common sense). Another thing is to change the user account control settings in Windows to at a minimum have you notified when a program tries to make a change. ________________________________ From: Oliver Barrett <[hidden email]> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Cc: Oliver Barrett <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 1:55 AM Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 update utility download removed (i.e. blocked) by Norton Internet Security in Windows 7 Hi all, My Norton Internet Security removed the KX3 firmware update utility from my Windows 7 PC after I tried to download it, based on crowdsourcing criteria (only a few hundred users and over a year old). Any suggestions on how to get around this? Thanks! Oliver Barrett KB6BA ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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The word Anti-Virus has always been a misnomer.
The AV software is ALWAYS going to be 12-24 hours behind the malware writers. If you get bit, the AV software may find it after you update definitions...but it might not. If you get bit by the wrong bug no amount of fiddling with AV definitions is going to remove the infection. Most AV software is mediocre at best when it comes to removing virii/malware. Learn how to remove virii/malware manually and how to re-install operating systems from boot media or archived disk image. Yes...I know...most people don't want to learn these things. I think of it as job security. On 3/18/2017 10:24 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: > I would dump Norton's > > > Years ago (when Norton had it) his stuff was pretty good Symantec, > seems to have turned most the stuff Norton wrote into bloatware. > I have never had a virus and I've been working with computers for over 35 years. > > What I now use is simply the Microsoft security essentials (and common sense). > > Another thing is to change the user account control settings in Windows > to at a minimum have you notified when a program tries to make a change. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Oliver Barrett <[hidden email]> > To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> > Cc: Oliver Barrett <[hidden email]> > Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 1:55 AM > Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 update utility download removed (i.e. blocked) by Norton Internet Security in Windows 7 > > > > Hi all, > > > My Norton Internet Security removed the KX3 firmware update utility from my Windows 7 PC after I tried to download it, based on crowdsourcing criteria (only a few hundred users and over a year old). > > > Any suggestions on how to get around this? > > > Thanks! > > Oliver Barrett KB6BA > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H ARRL FISTS #11993 SKCC #215 NAQCC #3441 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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In reply to this post by Jim Brown-10
On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 1:05 AM, Jim Brown <[hidden email]>
wrote: > On Fri,3/17/2017 10:52 PM, Oliver Barrett wrote: > >> Any suggestions on how to get around this? >> > > Easy. Dump Norton. I see repeated issues with that software screwing up > ham software. > > 73, Jim K9YC ============= What Jim said. According to my son who works at Google, Microsoft Defender is just as good as Norton and much less likely to interfere with the Windows system. Defender is built in to Windows, costs nothing, updates automatically and scans automatically, and is the recommended virus protection of several CS faculties. 73, Tony KT0NY ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Dumped Norton many years ago. It's nearly a virus itself. Haven't seen a replacement suggested yet, so.. I've been very happy with NOD32. It's around $30/yr, not the cheapest, but hasn't let me down. Have also heard good reviews of Avast which is (used to be?) free.
73, Josh W6XU Sent from my mobile device > On Mar 17, 2017, at 11:26 PM, [hidden email] wrote: > > I will second that suggestion. Norton takes total control of most all programs and sees ham software as virus. Dumped Norton over a decade ago. > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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YEP, Norton IS a bear to get rid of.
It almost takes smashing the computer to kill it. Chas -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Josh Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 1:16 PM To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 update utility download removed (i.e. blocked) by Norton Internet Security in Windows 7 Dumped Norton many years ago. It's nearly a virus itself. Haven't seen a replacement suggested yet, so.. I've been very happy with NOD32. It's around $30/yr, not the cheapest, but hasn't let me down. Have also heard good reviews of Avast which is (used to be?) free. 73, Josh W6XU Sent from my mobile device > On Mar 17, 2017, at 11:26 PM, [hidden email] wrote: > > I will second that suggestion. Norton takes total control of most all programs and sees ham software as virus. Dumped Norton over a decade ago. > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: KX3 update utility download removed (i.e. blocked) by Norton Internet Security in Windows 7
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Windows Defender (Win8 and Win10) does a fine job, and it comes with
Windows (no extra expense). For Win7, Microsoft Security Essentials (also free, but you have to download it) is also very good. Use those tools as well as some good common sense - don't click on links in emails unless you know them to be safe, and do not listen to that phone call supposedly from Microsoft telling you that your computer is causing problems on the internet. I got one of those calls 2 days ago, and when I asked him to identify the IP address of my 8 computers connected to the internet was causing the problem, he said "just hang up"! 73, Don W3FPR On 3/18/2017 1:37 PM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote: > YEP, Norton IS a bear to get rid of. > It almost takes smashing the computer to kill it. > > Chas > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Josh > Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 1:16 PM > To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 update utility download removed (i.e. blocked) > by Norton Internet Security in Windows 7 > > Dumped Norton many years ago. It's nearly a virus itself. Haven't seen a > replacement suggested yet, so.. I've been very happy with NOD32. It's around > $30/yr, not the cheapest, but hasn't let me down. Have also heard good > reviews of Avast which is (used to be?) free. Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I was tasked to remove it of a bunch of servers once.
From: "Charlie T, K3ICH" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 update utility download removed (i.e. blocked) by Norton Internet Security in Windows 7 YEP, Norton IS a bear to get rid of. It almost takes smashing the computer to kill it. Chas ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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In reply to this post by Josh Fiden
The first thing I do when I buy a new computer is to un-install any
third party virus/security software that is on it, before it can become embedded. I am very satisfied with Windows Defender. It has surprised me a couple times by catching Trojans with a high warning. Dick, n0ce On 3/18/2017 12:42 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > After I got tired of both Norton and McAfee and dumped them years ago, I > have been using AVG without incident for at least a decade now. And doing > research via the WEB, I'm all over the place downloading files, etc., from > unknown sites as well as dealing with attachments to e-mails daily. > > AVG has a free version but you must remember to manually update it daily. I > willingly pay for good stuff that works, so I have a paid subscription. > Costs about $22/year for each machine. > > I've considered switching to Windows Defender but also avoid fixing things > that aren't broken. > > 73, Ron AC7AC > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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