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Kenwood Mc-60 mic with K2

Millerhill
I was recently given an MC-60 mic and I read that the MC-60 was perfectly compatible with the K2, but I plugged it in and it doesn't work, so what should I check for?

73
Steve
W1SFR



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Re: Kenwood Mc-60 mic with K2

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Was it an MC-60 or an MC-60A?  The MC-60 is a straight dynamic
mic while the MC-60A included a preamplifier circuit in the base.

1) make sure your K2 is not set up with bias (no 5.6K resistor
    on the P1).
2) make sure the preamplifier is *bypassed* (switch "OUT") in the
    base of the MC-60A.

Finally, make sure the cable is wired for Kenwood and has not been
rewired for some other transceiver.  The MC-60/60A was a good mic
and has been used with a lot of other transceivers by replacing
the cable from the base to the rig with one wired appropriately.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/14/2013 3:35 PM, Stephen Roberts wrote:

> I was recently given an MC-60 mic and I read that the MC-60 was perfectly compatible with the K2, but I plugged it in and it doesn't work, so what should I check for?
>
> 73
> Steve
> W1SFR
>
>
>
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Re: Kenwood Mc-60 mic with K2

Millerhill
It's a MC-60 and the switch is "Out".


On Mar 14, 2013, at 4:36 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

>
> Was it an MC-60 or an MC-60A?  The MC-60 is a straight dynamic
> mic while the MC-60A included a preamplifier circuit in the base.
>
> 1) make sure your K2 is not set up with bias (no 5.6K resistor
>   on the P1).
> 2) make sure the preamplifier is *bypassed* (switch "OUT") in the
>   base of the MC-60A.
>
> Finally, make sure the cable is wired for Kenwood and has not been
> rewired for some other transceiver.  The MC-60/60A was a good mic
> and has been used with a lot of other transceivers by replacing
> the cable from the base to the rig with one wired appropriately.
>
> 73,
>
>   ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 3/14/2013 3:35 PM, Stephen Roberts wrote:
>> I was recently given an MC-60 mic and I read that the MC-60 was perfectly compatible with the K2, but I plugged it in and it doesn't work, so what should I check for?
>>
>> 73
>> Steve
>> W1SFR
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Kenwood Mc-60 mic with K2

Don Wilhelm-4
The MC-60 (not A) schematic that I see on the G4WPW website indicates
that the switch changes from low impedance to high impedance.  For use
with the K3 and other modern transceivers the switch should be in the
low impedance position.
 From the schematic, I cannot understand an "out" label on the switch.  
If you have an MC-60A, then "out" would be reasonable referring to the
preamp either in or out.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/14/2013 6:53 PM, Stephen Roberts wrote:
> It's a MC-60 and the switch is "Out".
>
>

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Re: Kenwood Mc-60 mic with K2

k6mkf
My MC-60 mic says on the bottom by the switch 'mic amp' in/out.   There
isn't an 'A' on the Kenwood trim on the front - just MC-60.   Although it
may be an MC-60A, there is no visible designation as such.

- 73 de Mike, K6MKF, W6NAG, NCDXC, Conway Reef 2012, K3-P3 Addict, Maui

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Kenwood Mc-60 mic with K2

The MC-60 (not A) schematic that I see on the G4WPW website indicates that
the switch changes from low impedance to high impedance.  For use with the
K3 and other modern transceivers the switch should be in the low impedance
position.
 From the schematic, I cannot understand an "out" label on the switch.  
If you have an MC-60A, then "out" would be reasonable referring to the
preamp either in or out.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/14/2013 6:53 PM, Stephen Roberts wrote:
> It's a MC-60 and the switch is "Out".
>
>

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Re: Kenwood Mc-60 mic with K2

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

With a preamp switch on the base, that is an MC-60A.

What position is the slide switch *on the microphone*?  That is the
switch that determines high vs. low impedance.  You  want it in the
"Low" (500 Ohm) position for the K2 (and K3).   There are two switches
- the one toward the rear is impedance, the one toward the front is
ON/OFF (the microphone element is disconnected in the OFF position).

If your microphone did not come with a manual, you may want to download
a copy from:  <http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wadei/MC-60A.pdf> or
<http://www.n6wk.com/kenwood/MC-60A.pdf>

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/14/2013 7:15 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:

> My MC-60 mic says on the bottom by the switch 'mic amp' in/out.   There
> isn't an 'A' on the Kenwood trim on the front - just MC-60.   Although it
> may be an MC-60A, there is no visible designation as such.
>
> - 73 de Mike, K6MKF, W6NAG, NCDXC, Conway Reef 2012, K3-P3 Addict, Maui
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 4:12 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Kenwood Mc-60 mic with K2
>
> The MC-60 (not A) schematic that I see on the G4WPW website indicates that
> the switch changes from low impedance to high impedance.  For use with the
> K3 and other modern transceivers the switch should be in the low impedance
> position.
>   From the schematic, I cannot understand an "out" label on the switch.
> If you have an MC-60A, then "out" would be reasonable referring to the
> preamp either in or out.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 3/14/2013 6:53 PM, Stephen Roberts wrote:
>> It's a MC-60 and the switch is "Out".
>>
>>
>
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Re: Kenwood Mc-60 mic with K2

Millerhill
There is no "A" anywhere indicated on the microphone or base. Preamp is off and switch is on low impedence. When I plug it in I get a continuous series if dits and no response from any of the controls on the unit.

Steve
W1SFR


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On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:44 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> With a preamp switch on the base, that is an MC-60A.
>
> What position is the slide switch *on the microphone*?  That is the
> switch that determines high vs. low impedance.  You  want it in the
> "Low" (500 Ohm) position for the K2 (and K3).   There are two switches
> - the one toward the rear is impedance, the one toward the front is
> ON/OFF (the microphone element is disconnected in the OFF position).
>
> If your microphone did not come with a manual, you may want to download
> a copy from:  <http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wadei/MC-60A.pdf> or
> <http://www.n6wk.com/kenwood/MC-60A.pdf>
>
> 73,
>
>   ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 3/14/2013 7:15 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
>> My MC-60 mic says on the bottom by the switch 'mic amp' in/out.   There
>> isn't an 'A' on the Kenwood trim on the front - just MC-60.   Although it
>> may be an MC-60A, there is no visible designation as such.
>>
>> - 73 de Mike, K6MKF, W6NAG, NCDXC, Conway Reef 2012, K3-P3 Addict, Maui
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 4:12 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Kenwood Mc-60 mic with K2
>>
>> The MC-60 (not A) schematic that I see on the G4WPW website indicates that
>> the switch changes from low impedance to high impedance.  For use with the
>> K3 and other modern transceivers the switch should be in the low impedance
>> position.
>>  From the schematic, I cannot understand an "out" label on the switch.
>> If you have an MC-60A, then "out" would be reasonable referring to the
>> preamp either in or out.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 3/14/2013 6:53 PM, Stephen Roberts wrote:
>>> It's a MC-60 and the switch is "Out".
>>
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Re: Kenwood Mc-60 mic with K2

Millerhill
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Well looking at the schematic, it is an "A" so I guess it's not suitable for the K2.

Steve

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On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:44 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> With a preamp switch on the base, that is an MC-60A.
>
> What position is the slide switch *on the microphone*?  That is the
> switch that determines high vs. low impedance.  You  want it in the
> "Low" (500 Ohm) position for the K2 (and K3).   There are two switches
> - the one toward the rear is impedance, the one toward the front is
> ON/OFF (the microphone element is disconnected in the OFF position).
>
> If your microphone did not come with a manual, you may want to download
> a copy from:  <http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wadei/MC-60A.pdf> or
> <http://www.n6wk.com/kenwood/MC-60A.pdf>
>
> 73,
>
>   ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 3/14/2013 7:15 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
>> My MC-60 mic says on the bottom by the switch 'mic amp' in/out.   There
>> isn't an 'A' on the Kenwood trim on the front - just MC-60.   Although it
>> may be an MC-60A, there is no visible designation as such.
>>
>> - 73 de Mike, K6MKF, W6NAG, NCDXC, Conway Reef 2012, K3-P3 Addict, Maui
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 4:12 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Kenwood Mc-60 mic with K2
>>
>> The MC-60 (not A) schematic that I see on the G4WPW website indicates that
>> the switch changes from low impedance to high impedance.  For use with the
>> K3 and other modern transceivers the switch should be in the low impedance
>> position.
>>  From the schematic, I cannot understand an "out" label on the switch.
>> If you have an MC-60A, then "out" would be reasonable referring to the
>> preamp either in or out.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 3/14/2013 6:53 PM, Stephen Roberts wrote:
>>> It's a MC-60 and the switch is "Out".
>>
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Re: Kenwood Mc-60 mic with K2

Joe Subich, W4TV-4
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> When I plug it in I get a continuous series if dits and no response
> from any of the controls on the unit.

I am not a K2 user but I recall the PTT line is also the "dit" line
of the keyer if the keyer is enabled.  Have you checked the "Lock"
switch on the microphone base?

> Well looking at the schematic, it is an "A" so I guess it's not
> suitable for the K2.

Well, I disagree.  However, if you can't make it work and would like
to unload it, contact me off the lost.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/15/2013 8:25 AM, Stephen Roberts wrote:

> There is no "A" anywhere indicated on the microphone or base. Preamp is off and switch is on low impedence. When I plug it in I get a continuous series if dits and no response from any of the controls on the unit.
>
> Steve
> W1SFR
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:44 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>
>> With a preamp switch on the base, that is an MC-60A.
>>
>> What position is the slide switch *on the microphone*?  That is the
>> switch that determines high vs. low impedance.  You  want it in the
>> "Low" (500 Ohm) position for the K2 (and K3).   There are two switches
>> - the one toward the rear is impedance, the one toward the front is
>> ON/OFF (the microphone element is disconnected in the OFF position).
>>
>> If your microphone did not come with a manual, you may want to download
>> a copy from:  <http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wadei/MC-60A.pdf> or
>> <http://www.n6wk.com/kenwood/MC-60A.pdf>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>    ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>> On 3/14/2013 7:15 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
>>> My MC-60 mic says on the bottom by the switch 'mic amp' in/out.   There
>>> isn't an 'A' on the Kenwood trim on the front - just MC-60.   Although it
>>> may be an MC-60A, there is no visible designation as such.
>>>
>>> - 73 de Mike, K6MKF, W6NAG, NCDXC, Conway Reef 2012, K3-P3 Addict, Maui
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [hidden email]
>>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 4:12 PM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Kenwood Mc-60 mic with K2
>>>
>>> The MC-60 (not A) schematic that I see on the G4WPW website indicates that
>>> the switch changes from low impedance to high impedance.  For use with the
>>> K3 and other modern transceivers the switch should be in the low impedance
>>> position.
>>>   From the schematic, I cannot understand an "out" label on the switch.
>>> If you have an MC-60A, then "out" would be reasonable referring to the
>>> preamp either in or out.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>>
>>> On 3/14/2013 6:53 PM, Stephen Roberts wrote:
>>>> It's a MC-60 and the switch is "Out".
>>>
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Re: Kenwood Mc-60 mic with K2

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I thought the list admin requested ending this string  ??

Bob K3DJC
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:25:57 -0400 Stephen Roberts
<[hidden email]> writes:

> There is no "A" anywhere indicated on the microphone or base. Preamp
> is off and switch is on low impedence. When I plug it in I get a
> continuous series if dits and no response from any of the controls
> on the unit.
>
> Steve
> W1SFR
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:44 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > With a preamp switch on the base, that is an MC-60A.
> >
> > What position is the slide switch *on the microphone*?  That is
> the
> > switch that determines high vs. low impedance.  You  want it in
> the
> > "Low" (500 Ohm) position for the K2 (and K3).   There are two
> switches
> > - the one toward the rear is impedance, the one toward the front
> is
> > ON/OFF (the microphone element is disconnected in the OFF
> position).
> >
> > If your microphone did not come with a manual, you may want to
> download
> > a copy from:  <http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wadei/MC-60A.pdf> or
> > <http://www.n6wk.com/kenwood/MC-60A.pdf>
> >
> > 73,
> >
> >   ... Joe, W4TV
> >
> >
> > On 3/14/2013 7:15 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
> >> My MC-60 mic says on the bottom by the switch 'mic amp' in/out.  
> There
> >> isn't an 'A' on the Kenwood trim on the front - just MC-60.  
> Although it
> >> may be an MC-60A, there is no visible designation as such.
> >>
> >> - 73 de Mike, K6MKF, W6NAG, NCDXC, Conway Reef 2012, K3-P3
> Addict, Maui
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [hidden email]
> >> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Don
> Wilhelm
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 4:12 PM
> >> To: [hidden email]
> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Kenwood Mc-60 mic with K2
> >>
> >> The MC-60 (not A) schematic that I see on the G4WPW website
> indicates that
> >> the switch changes from low impedance to high impedance.  For use
> with the
> >> K3 and other modern transceivers the switch should be in the low
> impedance
> >> position.
> >>  From the schematic, I cannot understand an "out" label on the
> switch.
> >> If you have an MC-60A, then "out" would be reasonable referring
> to the
> >> preamp either in or out.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Don W3FPR
> >>
> >> On 3/14/2013 6:53 PM, Stephen Roberts wrote:
> >>> It's a MC-60 and the switch is "Out".
> >>
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Re: Kenwood Mc-60 mic with K2

Bob O'Neill
I don't believe it was this thread the mod asked closed. The thread the mod asked closed was the Heil mic thread. This thread started a bit later.

Steve W1SFR- thanks for asking the question. I was offered the same mic for my K2.  

73,
Bob
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On Mar 15, 2013, at 10:23, [hidden email] wrote:

> I thought the list admin requested ending this string  ??
>
> Bob K3DJC
> On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 08:25:57 -0400 Stephen Roberts
> <[hidden email]> writes:
>> There is no "A" anywhere indicated on the microphone or base. Preamp
>> is off and switch is on low impedence. When I plug it in I get a
>> continuous series if dits and no response from any of the controls
>> on the unit.
>>
>> Steve
>> W1SFR
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:44 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> With a preamp switch on the base, that is an MC-60A.
>>>
>>> What position is the slide switch *on the microphone*?  That is
>> the
>>> switch that determines high vs. low impedance.  You  want it in
>> the
>>> "Low" (500 Ohm) position for the K2 (and K3).   There are two
>> switches
>>> - the one toward the rear is impedance, the one toward the front
>> is
>>> ON/OFF (the microphone element is disconnected in the OFF
>> position).
>>>
>>> If your microphone did not come with a manual, you may want to
>> download
>>> a copy from:  <http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wadei/MC-60A.pdf> or
>>> <http://www.n6wk.com/kenwood/MC-60A.pdf>
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>>  ... Joe, W4TV
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/14/2013 7:15 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
>>>> My MC-60 mic says on the bottom by the switch 'mic amp' in/out.  
>> There
>>>> isn't an 'A' on the Kenwood trim on the front - just MC-60.  
>> Although it
>>>> may be an MC-60A, there is no visible designation as such.
>>>>
>>>> - 73 de Mike, K6MKF, W6NAG, NCDXC, Conway Reef 2012, K3-P3
>> Addict, Maui
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [hidden email]
>>>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Don
>> Wilhelm
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 4:12 PM
>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Kenwood Mc-60 mic with K2
>>>>
>>>> The MC-60 (not A) schematic that I see on the G4WPW website
>> indicates that
>>>> the switch changes from low impedance to high impedance.  For use
>> with the
>>>> K3 and other modern transceivers the switch should be in the low
>> impedance
>>>> position.
>>>> From the schematic, I cannot understand an "out" label on the
>> switch.
>>>> If you have an MC-60A, then "out" would be reasonable referring
>> to the
>>>> preamp either in or out.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Don W3FPR
>>>>
>>>> On 3/14/2013 6:53 PM, Stephen Roberts wrote:
>>>>> It's a MC-60 and the switch is "Out".
>>>>
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