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Bob Lukaszewski

LP PAN FOR SALE

Well after all this I have decided not to use the LP Pan adapter setup
with my K3.

So with that it is for sale. The complete setup,
LP-PAN adapter
External Sound Card E-MU0202
cables for K3
software

ANYONE INTERESTED $250

Bob K4HA
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N1IX-2

LP PAN

I have noticed a lot of LP Panadaapters for sale. I am wondering why.
Do they work well? I have one but I haven't been able to get it working yet.

Dave N1IX

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Michael van Hauten

Re: LP PAN

Perhaps elecraft is developing its own pandapter for the K3? This will
bring the K3 in front of IC-7800 and the SDRs

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Subject: [Elecraft] LP PAN

>I have noticed a lot of LP Panadaapters for sale. I am wondering why.
> Do they work well? I have one but I haven't been able to get it working
> yet.
>
> Dave N1IX
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W6NEK

Re: LP PAN

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The LP-PAN Software Defined Panadapter works fantastic. I use the
K3/LP-PAN/PowerSDR combination and it far exceeds the panadapter display on
my IC-7800 in both weak signal sensitivity and real time display refresh
rate (not to mention the ability to mouse click on a displayed signal and
jump the K3 to it's frequency). I'm so spoiled that I seldom use the 7800
for CW operation anymore. Add to that CWSkimmer (running at the same time)
and I died and gone to heaven ;-)

Frank - W6NEK

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Subject: [Elecraft] LP PAN

AD4C2009

LP PAN

In reply to this post by Michael van Hauten

Sooner or later Elecraft will develop a small board to put inside or maybe outside that taking the IF output will make it a standard NTSC format video out to be seen by a simple video monitor,wait and see,that will kill not only the old 7800 but also the new 7600 as well.
Don't forget our K3's are still a project in progress.

AD4C

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From: Michael van Hauten <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LP PAN
To: "N1IX" <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 5:27 AM

Perhaps elecraft is developing its own pandapter for the K3? This will
bring the K3 in front of IC-7800 and the SDRs

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Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:20 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] LP PAN

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Steve Ellington

Re: LP PAN as i see it

In reply to this post by N1IX-2

Many people buy the LP-PAN but get bogged down in it's complexity and end up
selling them. It's not "plug and play". You're dealing with:
1. K3 must have the KXV3 board, $99, installed.
2. BNC coax cable to LP-PAN.
3. LP-PAN $227 assembled.
4. Cables from LP-PAN to sound card.
5. Sound card (special). Not your average Soundblaster! I used the Creative
EMU 0202 external USB attached "audio interface". $100.
6. USB cable to PC.
7. Drivers installed for sound card.
8. PowerSDR-IF software from WU2X (download).
9. Configure, calibrate and choose from dozens of options and settings in
software.
"INSTRUCTIONS" for the LP-PAN are found at this link:
http://www.telepostinc.com/LP-PAN.html
"INSTRUCTIONS for PowerSDR-IF are found at this link:
http://www.wu2x.com/sdr.html
This is at best, confusing. Paragraph after paragraph of information that
has slowly evolved over months and months. Useful links, system
requirements, mods, betas, HRD, SDR-IQ.....It's a world of it's own!
I'm using LP-PAN here. Yes it took me quiet a while to make it all work. The
software locked up my PC. I had cable problems. I ended up changing PCs and
the one I have still isn't fast enough to actually use LP-PAN as a radio.
Too many pops and cracks but the scope is GREAT! I use it constantly.
Yea, you can set there and slowly twiddle the vfo knob across the band
searching for signals but with the scope you soon learn that you had been
tuning right past signals and didn't know it! All it takes is a brief pause
in transmission and you've missed him. Just a few days ago I landed on 6
meters and sat back and watched the scope. Soon a single blip appeared in
the cw portion for about 5 seconds. I clicked the mouse in the general area
and waited for about 30 seconds. Suddenly I heard CQ CQ CQ de W5VYH W5VYH K.
I snagged him. A distance of 625 miles. The only signal on 6 meters and CW
at that! It's the first 6 meter QSO I've had in 30 years. The band quickly
went dead and it was over.
Tell me....What are the odds of me working W5VYH if I had no bandscope?
ZERO, ZILCH....You could wear out 100 finger dimples and never accomplish
that!
Did I mention my antenna? A 200' doublet fed with ladder line....The tuner
in the K3 somehow found a match on 6 meters. BTW: That tuner is astounding.
It matches things that shouldn't be matched.

Yes I hope Elecraft comes out with a better solution than this cantankerous
hodgepodge of little black boxes, cables and weird software but until then
I'll keep on using it.

Steve
N4LQ

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Subject: [Elecraft] LP PAN

Phil LaMarche-2

Re: LP PAN as i see it

I purchased the LP-PAN because I came from several years of owning the Flex
5000A and it uses the same software. I had forgotten how to use knobs.

Only had one configuration problem and a phone call to Larry, fixed that.
It has worked perfectly since and I love using it. I am spoiled with the
scope, especially on 6 meters for the reasons mentioned. On the other
bands, tuning is so quick with a simple mouse click. It puts the frosting
on the K3.

Phil

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[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Steve Ellington
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:46 AM
To: N1IX; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LP PAN as i see it

Many people buy the LP-PAN but get bogged down in it's complexity and end up
selling them. It's not "plug and play". You're dealing with:
1. K3 must have the KXV3 board, $99, installed.
2. BNC coax cable to LP-PAN.
3. LP-PAN $227 assembled.
4. Cables from LP-PAN to sound card.
5. Sound card (special). Not your average Soundblaster! I used the Creative
EMU 0202 external USB attached "audio interface". $100.
6. USB cable to PC.
7. Drivers installed for sound card.
8. PowerSDR-IF software from WU2X (download).
9. Configure, calibrate and choose from dozens of options and settings in
software.
"INSTRUCTIONS" for the LP-PAN are found at this link:
http://www.telepostinc.com/LP-PAN.html
"INSTRUCTIONS for PowerSDR-IF are found at this link:
http://www.wu2x.com/sdr.html
This is at best, confusing. Paragraph after paragraph of information that
has slowly evolved over months and months. Useful links, system
requirements, mods, betas, HRD, SDR-IQ.....It's a world of it's own!
I'm using LP-PAN here. Yes it took me quiet a while to make it all work. The
software locked up my PC. I had cable problems. I ended up changing PCs and
the one I have still isn't fast enough to actually use LP-PAN as a radio.
Too many pops and cracks but the scope is GREAT! I use it constantly.
Yea, you can set there and slowly twiddle the vfo knob across the band
searching for signals but with the scope you soon learn that you had been
tuning right past signals and didn't know it! All it takes is a brief pause
in transmission and you've missed him. Just a few days ago I landed on 6
meters and sat back and watched the scope. Soon a single blip appeared in
the cw portion for about 5 seconds. I clicked the mouse in the general area
and waited for about 30 seconds. Suddenly I heard CQ CQ CQ de W5VYH W5VYH K.

I snagged him. A distance of 625 miles. The only signal on 6 meters and CW
at that! It's the first 6 meter QSO I've had in 30 years. The band quickly
went dead and it was over.
Tell me....What are the odds of me working W5VYH if I had no bandscope?
ZERO, ZILCH....You could wear out 100 finger dimples and never accomplish
that!
Did I mention my antenna? A 200' doublet fed with ladder line....The tuner
in the K3 somehow found a match on 6 meters. BTW: That tuner is astounding.
It matches things that shouldn't be matched.

Yes I hope Elecraft comes out with a better solution than this cantankerous
hodgepodge of little black boxes, cables and weird software but until then
I'll keep on using it.

Steve
N4LQ

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Subject: [Elecraft] LP PAN

Dick Williams-2

Re: LP PAN

In reply to this post by N1IX-2

Dave,

I purchased a LP-Pan and a E-MU 0202 a few weeks ago and had no problem
getting either of them working and interfacing DXBase. I wonder if you have
given Larry a call at Telepost?

The only minor problem I had was with the PowerSDR software. For reasons
only known to the "computer gods", it would not load correctly and when I
tried to run it, I would get three or four "fatal error" messages. I even
tried to un-install it and then re-install with no luck.

There was an easy fix that involved formating the hard drive and then
re-installing Windows XP (a "ritual" that should be done once a year
anyway). Fortunately, formattng the hard drive and re-installing XP is
pretty easy, but time consuming to download and install all the updates and
programs. With the fresh install, everything worked the first time.

I did have a couple of "procedural" questions, and a couple of quick calls
to Larry answered those.

It works really great and well worth the time and expense of installing it.

Dick K8ZTT

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Subject: [Elecraft] LP PAN

Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU

Re: LP PAN

Administrator

Linux users can install quisk-lppan-k3. It's a far simpler user interface
than the PowerSDR software. We're hoping to port it to Windows as well
some day. It can control the K3 directly, or work through fldigi, which
is a digimode program that itself runs on Windows, Mac, and Linux.

http://wa5znu.org/2009/04/quisk-lppan-k3/

Leigh/WA5ZNU

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Brett Howard

Re: LP PAN

On that screen shot is that + and - about 20Khz? Shouldn't the system
be able to pull off 192Khz total width? It would also be really slick
if the waterfall was labeled with absolute values rather than relative
ones.

Honestly the only reason I haven't purchased an LP-PAN is because all
the computers at the house are running Linux. However I'm also VERY
hopeful that the Elecraft bandscope when it comes out doesn't require a
computer of any kind.

I'm not certain on my feelings of requiring that the device needs a VGA
monitor. I really hope that the thing is completely self contained and
even better if it was a box with an LCD of some sort and fits nice right
on top of the K3 and looks like it belongs there.

I guess time will only tell....

~Brett

On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 13:27 -0700, Leigh L. Klotz, Jr. WA5ZNU wrote:

> Linux users can install quisk-lppan-k3. It's a far simpler user interface
> than the PowerSDR software. We're hoping to port it to Windows as well
> some day. It can control the K3 directly, or work through fldigi, which
> is a digimode program that itself runs on Windows, Mac, and Linux.
>
> http://wa5znu.org/2009/04/quisk-lppan-k3/
>
> Leigh/WA5ZNU
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Steve Ellington

Re: LP PAN

Brett:
How about this: The scope is already defined in the K3's display. All we are
waiting for is a firmware update to activate it. I wish!
Steve
N4LQ
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From: "Brett Howard" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LP PAN

> On that screen shot is that + and - about 20Khz? Shouldn't the system
> be able to pull off 192Khz total width? It would also be really slick
> if the waterfall was labeled with absolute values rather than relative
> ones.
>
> Honestly the only reason I haven't purchased an LP-PAN is because all
> the computers at the house are running Linux. However I'm also VERY
> hopeful that the Elecraft bandscope when it comes out doesn't require a
> computer of any kind.
>
> I'm not certain on my feelings of requiring that the device needs a VGA
> monitor. I really hope that the thing is completely self contained and
> even better if it was a box with an LCD of some sort and fits nice right
> on top of the K3 and looks like it belongs there.
>
> I guess time will only tell....
>
> ~Brett
>
> On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 13:27 -0700, Leigh L. Klotz, Jr. WA5ZNU wrote:
>> Linux users can install quisk-lppan-k3. It's a far simpler user
>> interface
>> than the PowerSDR software. We're hoping to port it to Windows as well
>> some day. It can control the K3 directly, or work through fldigi, which
>> is a digimode program that itself runs on Windows, Mac, and Linux.
>>
>> http://wa5znu.org/2009/04/quisk-lppan-k3/
>>
>> Leigh/WA5ZNU
>>
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Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU

Re: LP PAN

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In reply to this post by Brett Howard

Brett,
Thanks for pointing it out. It was an old screen shot. I updated it to
a more recent one as the package does provide frequency control.

As for the bandwidth of the display, it's purely a function of the sound
card. On Linux, the EMU-0202 sound device supports 44.1 KHz unless it's
sent a USB command to change sample rate. I've worked with some other
Linux folks around the world to help fix this, and the results should be
coming out in new versions of the Linux "ALSA" sound system soon.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to get past 96 KHz. (The Mac driver for
the EMU-020 has this same limitation.)

You can use quisk and the LP-PAN with a less expensive sound card such
as the Griffin iMic or a 48KHz Creative USB product, all in the $40
range, and get a 48KHz bandwidth view coverage. If you're a CW or
digital mode operator, that's pretty much all you need, and it's about
half the cost of the EMU-0202.

I don't know what Elecraft's plans are, but I believe there's room for
both standalone display devices and shack computer integrated devices.
Quisk is an option for those of us who have the LP-PAN and use Linux in
the shack.

Leigh/WA5ZNU

> On that screen shot is that + and - about 20Khz? Shouldn't the system
> be able to pull off 192Khz total width? It would also be really slick
> if the waterfall was labeled with absolute values rather than relative
> ones.
>
> Honestly the only reason I haven't purchased an LP-PAN is because all
> the computers at the house are running Linux. However I'm also VERY
> hopeful that the Elecraft bandscope when it comes out doesn't require a
> computer of any kind.
>
> I'm not certain on my feelings of requiring that the device needs a VGA
> monitor. I really hope that the thing is completely self contained and
> even better if it was a box with an LCD of some sort and fits nice right
> on top of the K3 and looks like it belongs there.
>
> I guess time will only tell....
>
> ~Brett
>
> On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 13:27 -0700, Leigh L. Klotz, Jr. WA5ZNU wrote:
>
>> Linux users can install quisk-lppan-k3. It's a far simpler user interface
>> than the PowerSDR software. We're hoping to port it to Windows as well
>> some day. It can control the K3 directly, or work through fldigi, which
>> is a digimode program that itself runs on Windows, Mac, and Linux.
>>
>> http://wa5znu.org/2009/04/quisk-lppan-k3/
>>
>> Leigh/WA5ZNU
>>
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Vic K2VCO

Re: LP PAN

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Steve Ellington wrote:
> Brett:
> How about this: The scope is already defined in the K3's display. All we are
> waiting for is a firmware update to activate it. I wish!

I can tell you that this, unfortunately, is impossible. The K3's display isn't bit-mapped
-- it has a fixed set of things that it can display.

I too admit that I've watched all of these LPPans go by at attractive prices because --
much as I want a panoramic display -- I am waiting for the Elecraft product. And I also
hope it will be a standalone device that does not require a computer.
--
73,
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Brett Howard

Re: LP PAN

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I honestly don't believe that the K3 screen has the resolution to be an
effective bandscope. But thats just my humble opinion.

~Brett

On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 00:16 -0400, Steve Ellington wrote:

> Brett:
> How about this: The scope is already defined in the K3's display. All we are
> waiting for is a firmware update to activate it. I wish!
> Steve
> N4LQ
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brett Howard" <[hidden email]>
> To: "Leigh L. Klotz, Jr. WA5ZNU" <[hidden email]>
> Cc: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LP PAN
>
>
> > On that screen shot is that + and - about 20Khz? Shouldn't the system
> > be able to pull off 192Khz total width? It would also be really slick
> > if the waterfall was labeled with absolute values rather than relative
> > ones.
> >
> > Honestly the only reason I haven't purchased an LP-PAN is because all
> > the computers at the house are running Linux. However I'm also VERY
> > hopeful that the Elecraft bandscope when it comes out doesn't require a
> > computer of any kind.
> >
> > I'm not certain on my feelings of requiring that the device needs a VGA
> > monitor. I really hope that the thing is completely self contained and
> > even better if it was a box with an LCD of some sort and fits nice right
> > on top of the K3 and looks like it belongs there.
> >
> > I guess time will only tell....
> >
> > ~Brett
> >
> > On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 13:27 -0700, Leigh L. Klotz, Jr. WA5ZNU wrote:
> >> Linux users can install quisk-lppan-k3. It's a far simpler user
> >> interface
> >> than the PowerSDR software. We're hoping to port it to Windows as well
> >> some day. It can control the K3 directly, or work through fldigi, which
> >> is a digimode program that itself runs on Windows, Mac, and Linux.
> >>
> >> http://wa5znu.org/2009/04/quisk-lppan-k3/
> >>
> >> Leigh/WA5ZNU
> >>
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PD2R

Re: LP PAN

You know what, I guess that Steve already knew that the K3's display wasn't
going to be able accommodate a landscape function ;-)

I too would like to express my desire for a build-in / stand alone unit for
the K3. One were I can hook up a monitor, a key board and maybe even a mouse
if I wanted too and do all the modes that are available. And also very
important, it should be more or less plug and play.

PC's and I don't go very well together and although the LP PAN stuff looks
and sounds very promising, it is way to complicated for me. I am glad that I
am able to update my K3 every once in a while. Kudo's to Elecraft for making
it that simple.

Also, for a "wireless" hobby, with LP PAN you sure as hell need a lot off
wires (pun intended ;-))

73, Maarten
PD2R

2009/7/23 Brett Howard <[hidden email]>

> I honestly don't believe that the K3 screen has the resolution to be an
> effective bandscope. But thats just my humble opinion.
>
> ~Brett
>
> On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 00:16 -0400, Steve Ellington wrote:
> > Brett:
> > How about this: The scope is already defined in the K3's display. All we
> are
> > waiting for is a firmware update to activate it. I wish!
> > Steve
> > N4LQ
> > [hidden email]
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brett Howard" <[hidden email]>
> > To: "Leigh L. Klotz, Jr. WA5ZNU" <[hidden email]>
> > Cc: <[hidden email]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LP PAN
> >
> >
> > > On that screen shot is that + and - about 20Khz? Shouldn't the system
> > > be able to pull off 192Khz total width? It would also be really slick
> > > if the waterfall was labeled with absolute values rather than relative
> > > ones.
> > >
> > > Honestly the only reason I haven't purchased an LP-PAN is because all
> > > the computers at the house are running Linux. However I'm also VERY
> > > hopeful that the Elecraft bandscope when it comes out doesn't require a
> > > computer of any kind.
> > >
> > > I'm not certain on my feelings of requiring that the device needs a VGA
> > > monitor. I really hope that the thing is completely self contained and
> > > even better if it was a box with an LCD of some sort and fits nice
> right
> > > on top of the K3 and looks like it belongs there.
> > >
> > > I guess time will only tell....
> > >
> > > ~Brett
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 13:27 -0700, Leigh L. Klotz, Jr. WA5ZNU wrote:
> > >> Linux users can install quisk-lppan-k3. It's a far simpler user
> > >> interface
> > >> than the PowerSDR software. We're hoping to port it to Windows as
> well
> > >> some day. It can control the K3 directly, or work through fldigi,
> which
> > >> is a digimode program that itself runs on Windows, Mac, and Linux.
> > >>
> > >> http://wa5znu.org/2009/04/quisk-lppan-k3/
> > >>
> > >> Leigh/WA5ZNU
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Julian, G4ILO

Re: LP PAN

Maarten van Rossum wrote

I too would like to express my desire for a build-in / stand alone unit for
the K3. One were I can hook up a monitor, a key board and maybe even a mouse
if I wanted too and do all the modes that are available. And also very
important, it should be more or less plug and play.

PC's and I don't go very well together and although the LP PAN stuff looks
and sounds very promising, it is way to complicated for me. I am glad that I
am able to update my K3 every once in a while. Kudo's to Elecraft for making
it that simple.

I think all of us find PCs a hassle. I worked with computers all my life but there are still times when I want to attack the thing with a 4lb club hammer.

Unfortunately for your requirement I think a PC would be the most cost effective platform to do all that. I think the most we can hope for is something that is just a panoramic display. The question in my mind is, since for most people the benefit is being able to point and click to QSY, how would that work using a separate display? Most people will still be using a PC for logging etc. Having a separate screen for the display is not an issue (in fact it would be a benefit to keep the main screen clear) but having a separate screen that your mouse cannot click on doesn't seem like an ergonomic ideal to me.

So I'm guessing that it will just be a passive display like the ones in the Icom 756 series that you can look at but not click on.

Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
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Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy

Re: LP PAN

In reply to this post by Vic K2VCO

Vic Rosenthal wrote on Thursday, July 23, 2009 at 7:14 AM:

> I too admit that I've watched all of these LPPans go by at attractive
> prices because --
> much as I want a panoramic display -- I am waiting for the Elecraft
> product. And I also
> hope it will be a standalone device that does not require a computer.

Hi Vic,

It would be a pity if Elecraft's product could only be used to display the
K3's receiver IF, and could not be tuned to other frequencies and used to
display transmitter IMD products for example. Perhaps that would make the
product too expensive.

73,
Geoff
GM4ESD

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Re: LP PAN

In reply to this post by N1IX-2

"...since for most people the benefit is being able to point and click to
QSY, how would that work using a separate display?"

How about touch screen?

Best regards,
Dick - KA5KKT

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Re: LP PAN

In reply to this post by Julian, G4ILO

Julian, G4ILO wrote:

I disagree. I think the folks at Elecraft are capable of developing
the software required to do point and click.

In fact I would not purchase one if I couldn't do that.

Tom, N5GE

>
> Maarten van Rossum wrote:
>
>> I too would like to express my desire for a build-in / stand alone unit
>> for
>> the K3. One were I can hook up a monitor, a key board and maybe even a
>> mouse
>> if I wanted too and do all the modes that are available. And also very
>> important, it should be more or less plug and play.
>>
>> PC's and I don't go very well together and although the LP PAN stuff looks
>> and sounds very promising, it is way to complicated for me. I am glad that
>> I
>> am able to update my K3 every once in a while. Kudo's to Elecraft for
>> making
>> it that simple.
>>
>>
>
> I think all of us find PCs a hassle. I worked with computers all my life but
> there are still times when I want to attack the thing with a 4lb club
> hammer.
>
> Unfortunately for your requirement I think a PC would be the most cost
> effective platform to do all that. I think the most we can hope for is
> something that is just a panoramic display. The question in my mind is,
> since for most people the benefit is being able to point and click to QSY,
> how would that work using a separate display? Most people will still be
> using a PC for logging etc. Having a separate screen for the display is not
> an issue (in fact it would be a benefit to keep the main screen clear) but
> having a separate screen that your mouse cannot click on doesn't seem like
> an ergonomic ideal to me.
>
> So I'm guessing that it will just be a passive display like the ones in the
> Icom 756 series that you can look at but not click on.
>
> -----
> Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222.
> * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
> * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
> * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html
>
>

Amateur Radio Operator N5GE

hf4me

Elecraft Panadapter

In reply to this post by Vic K2VCO

I haven't used a panaramic display but have wanted one for some time. I do
have a problem understanding how a stand alone display can possibly have the
capabilities of a PC based design as far as point and click to change the
radio to the frequency of the signal you are seeing.

I CAN see the usefulness of a second video display monitor on the PC to use
for some of the "extras" that would get covered up on you main screen when
you have it set the way you like.

I too am waiting for the Elecraft unit to see how it is implemented and it's
capabilities.

73, de Jim KG0KP

----- Original Message -----
From: "Vic K2VCO" <[hidden email]>
To: "Steve Ellington" <[hidden email]>
Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LP PAN

> Steve Ellington wrote:
>> Brett:
>> How about this: The scope is already defined in the K3's display. All we
>> are
>> waiting for is a firmware update to activate it. I wish!
>
> I can tell you that this, unfortunately, is impossible. The K3's display
> isn't bit-mapped
> -- it has a fixed set of things that it can display.
>
> I too admit that I've watched all of these LPPans go by at attractive
> prices because --
> much as I want a panoramic display -- I am waiting for the Elecraft
> product. And I also
> hope it will be a standalone device that does not require a computer.
> --
> 73,
> Vic, K2VCO
> Fresno CA
> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco
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