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NK7Z

Latest on the new home for my K3...

https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/

I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the Patch
Panel does not say K3 on it... That means I can replace things with a
K4 later... :)

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Re: Latest on the new home for my K3...

Nice work!!

Hank
K4HYJ

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Subject: [Elecraft] Latest on the new home for my K3...

https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/

I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the Patch
Panel does not say K3 on it... That means I can replace things with a
K4 later... :)

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Clay Autery-2

Re: [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

In reply to this post by NK7Z

That is some really first rate work.... <big smile> I dig it when folks
are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise organize things
logically.... and NEATLY!!

73,

______________________
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On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:
> https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/
>
> I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the
> Patch Panel does not say K3 on it... That means I can replace things
> with a K4 later... :)
>
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NK7Z

Re: [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

Thanks Clay... I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick of
haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna! That and it
feeds my OCD issues. :)

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
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On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:

> That is some really first rate work.... <big smile> I dig it when folks
> are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise organize things
> logically.... and NEATLY!!
>
> 73,
>
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> (318) 518-1389
>
> On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:
>> https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/
>>
>> I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the
>> Patch Panel does not say K3 on it... That means I can replace things
>> with a K4 later... :)
>>
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Clay Autery-2

Re: [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! <big smile>

Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel? I'd love to
have access to something like that!

73

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On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:

> Thanks Clay... I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick of
> haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna! That and it
> feeds my OCD issues. :)
>
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
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> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>
> On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>> That is some really first rate work.... <big smile> I dig it when
>> folks are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise organize
>> things logically.... and NEATLY!!
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ______________________
>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>> (318) 518-1389
>>
>> On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:
>>> https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/
>>>
>>> I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the
>>> Patch Panel does not say K3 on it... That means I can replace
>>> things with a K4 later... :)
>>>
>>>
>>
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NK7Z

Re: [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

Hi Clay,

I used the folks called Front Panel Express at:

https://www.frontpanelexpress.com/

Took a few hours to learn the free software they provide, but overall it
was easy. Not cheap, but very good results...

They even have a version that runs under Linux...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
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On 4/21/20 8:03 PM, Clay Autery wrote:

> I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! <big smile>
>
> Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel? I'd love to
> have access to something like that!
>
> 73
>
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> (318) 518-1389
>
> On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:
>> Thanks Clay... I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick of
>> haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna! That and it
>> feeds my OCD issues. :)
>>
>> 73, and thanks,
>> Dave (NK7Z)
>> https://www.nk7z.net
>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>> ARRL Technical Specialist
>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>>
>> On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>>> That is some really first rate work.... <big smile> I dig it when
>>> folks are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise organize
>>> things logically.... and NEATLY!!
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> ______________________
>>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>>> (318) 518-1389
>>>
>>> On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:
>>>> https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/
>>>>
>>>> I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the
>>>> Patch Panel does not say K3 on it... That means I can replace
>>>> things with a K4 later... :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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M0XDF

Re: [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

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Yes, I’d like to know to and the source of the cable trays.
It’s very neat and professional.

Mind you, it seems to me, that lots of cool stuff is not available from UK suppliers :-(

73 de David, M0XDF

This story concerns four people – Everybody, Somebody, Anybody and Nobody.
There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.
Anybody could have done it but in the end Nobody did it.
Everybody got very angry over this because it really was Somebody’s job.
Everybody thought Somebody would do it, but Nobody realised that Anybody wouldn’t do it
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when actually Nobody had asked Anybody.

> On 22 Apr 2020, at 04:03, Clay Autery <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! <big smile>
>
> Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel? I'd love to have access to something like that!
>
> 73
>
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> (318) 518-1389
>
> On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:
>> Thanks Clay... I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick of haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna! That and it feeds my OCD issues. :)
>>
>> 73, and thanks,
>> Dave (NK7Z)
>> https://www.nk7z.net
>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>> ARRL Technical Specialist
>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>>
>> On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>>> That is some really first rate work.... <big smile> I dig it when folks are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise organize things logically.... and NEATLY!!
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> ______________________
>>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>>> (318) 518-1389
>>>
>>> On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:
>>>> https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/
>>>>
>>>> I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the Patch Panel does not say K3 on it... That means I can replace things with a K4 later... :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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David Haines

Re: [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

In reply to this post by Clay Autery-2

My son is a robotics engineer and designer, so I knew he would be
interested in the panel, which in my opinion is a work of art.

He did make the following helpful comment, though:

"Looks like it will be pretty nice! I want to know why he's zip tying
everything inside the Panduit though. I've always used it to
specifically avoid zip ties and still have a clean result. Gonna be
annoying when he wants to change something!"

david

KC1DNY
Maine

On 4/21/2020 11:03 PM, Clay Autery wrote:

> I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! <big smile>
>
> Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel? I'd love to
> have access to something like that!
>
> 73
>
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> (318) 518-1389
>
> On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:
>> Thanks Clay... I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick of
>> haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna! That and
>> it feeds my OCD issues. :)
>>
>> 73, and thanks,
>> Dave (NK7Z)
>> https://www.nk7z.net
>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>> ARRL Technical Specialist
>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>>
>> On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>>> That is some really first rate work.... <big smile> I dig it when
>>> folks are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise
>>> organize things logically.... and NEATLY!!
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> ______________________
>>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>>> (318) 518-1389
>>>
>>> On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:
>>>> https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/
>>>>
>>>> I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the
>>>> Patch Panel does not say K3 on it... That means I can replace
>>>> things with a K4 later... :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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NK7Z

Re: [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

In reply to this post by M0XDF

Hi,
I did a quick and dirty review of the software used to design the Patch
Panel, at:

www.nk7z.net

top review...

The tray is Panduit, see:

http://www.panduit.com/heiler/SelectionGuides/D-WDSG01--SA-UKE-WiringDuctProduct-W.pdf

I used the F type of Panduit.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
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On 4/22/20 6:39 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:

> Yes, I’d like to know to and the source of the cable trays.
> It’s very neat and professional.
>
> Mind you, it seems to me, that lots of cool stuff is not available from UK suppliers :-(
>
> 73 de David, M0XDF
>
> This story concerns four people – Everybody, Somebody, Anybody and Nobody.
> There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.
> Anybody could have done it but in the end Nobody did it.
> Everybody got very angry over this because it really was Somebody’s job.
> Everybody thought Somebody would do it, but Nobody realised that Anybody wouldn’t do it
> It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when actually Nobody had asked Anybody.
>
>> On 22 Apr 2020, at 04:03, Clay Autery <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! <big smile>
>>
>> Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel? I'd love to have access to something like that!
>>
>> 73
>>
>> ______________________
>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>> (318) 518-1389
>>
>> On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:
>>> Thanks Clay... I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick of haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna! That and it feeds my OCD issues. :)
>>>
>>> 73, and thanks,
>>> Dave (NK7Z)
>>> https://www.nk7z.net
>>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>>> ARRL Technical Specialist
>>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>>>
>>> On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>>>> That is some really first rate work.... <big smile> I dig it when folks are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise organize things logically.... and NEATLY!!
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> ______________________
>>>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>>>> (318) 518-1389
>>>>
>>>> On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:
>>>>> https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/
>>>>>
>>>>> I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the Patch Panel does not say K3 on it... That means I can replace things with a K4 later... :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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NK7Z

Re: [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

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Most of the zip ties inside the Panduit were clipped out last night...
I used them only to hold/form cables together as I run them in the
Panduit.

I will leave the wire ties at the entry and exit points to the Panduit
to assist in keeping things tidy as they enter, or exit the Panduit.

But... Given it is a patch panel, and the cables to it are specifically
designed for the radio I use, (K3), changing configurations won't be a
huge issue.

That is the reason for the patch panel in the first place, avoid
rewiring for every change.

If I want to move antenna, or if I want to feed the output of the radio
IF to an SDR, I just add a patch, if I want to bypass the tuner, I just
patch around it... You get the idea...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 4/22/20 8:28 AM, David Haines wrote:

> My son is a robotics engineer and designer, so I knew he would be
> interested in the panel, which in my opinion is a work of art.
>
> He did make the following helpful comment, though:
>
> "Looks like it will be pretty nice! I want to know why he's zip tying
> everything inside the Panduit though. I've always used it to
> specifically avoid zip ties and still have a clean result. Gonna be
> annoying when he wants to change something!"
>
> david
>
> KC1DNY
> Maine
>
> On 4/21/2020 11:03 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>> I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! <big smile>
>>
>> Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel? I'd love to
>> have access to something like that!
>>
>> 73
>>
>> ______________________
>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>> (318) 518-1389
>>
>> On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:
>>> Thanks Clay... I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick of
>>> haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna! That and
>>> it feeds my OCD issues. :)
>>>
>>> 73, and thanks,
>>> Dave (NK7Z)
>>> https://www.nk7z.net
>>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>>> ARRL Technical Specialist
>>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>>>
>>> On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>>>> That is some really first rate work.... <big smile> I dig it when
>>>> folks are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise
>>>> organize things logically.... and NEATLY!!
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> ______________________
>>>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>>>> (318) 518-1389
>>>>
>>>> On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:
>>>>> https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/
>>>>>
>>>>> I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the
>>>>> Patch Panel does not say K3 on it... That means I can replace
>>>>> things with a K4 later... :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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NK7Z

Re: [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

I added a few more photos to the RF Patch Panel/Desk rebuild, these show
the Zip ties removed. Last few photos...

https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 4/22/20 8:58 AM, Dave Cole wrote:

> Most of the zip ties inside the Panduit were clipped out last night... I
> used them only to hold/form cables together as I run them in the Panduit.
>
> I will leave the wire ties at the entry and exit points to the Panduit
> to assist in keeping things tidy as they enter, or exit the Panduit.
>
> But... Given it is a patch panel, and the cables to it are specifically
> designed for the radio I use, (K3), changing configurations won't be a
> huge issue.
>
> That is the reason for the patch panel in the first place, avoid
> rewiring for every change.
>
> If I want to move antenna, or if I want to feed the output of the radio
> IF to an SDR, I just add a patch, if I want to bypass the tuner, I just
> patch around it... You get the idea...
>
>
>
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>
> On 4/22/20 8:28 AM, David Haines wrote:
>> My son is a robotics engineer and designer, so I knew he would be
>> interested in the panel, which in my opinion is a work of art.
>>
>> He did make the following helpful comment, though:
>>
>> "Looks like it will be pretty nice! I want to know why he's zip tying
>> everything inside the Panduit though. I've always used it to
>> specifically avoid zip ties and still have a clean result. Gonna be
>> annoying when he wants to change something!"
>>
>> david
>>
>> KC1DNY
>> Maine
>>
>> On 4/21/2020 11:03 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>>> I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! <big smile>
>>>
>>> Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel? I'd love
>>> to have access to something like that!
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> ______________________
>>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>>> (318) 518-1389
>>>
>>> On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:
>>>> Thanks Clay... I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick
>>>> of haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna! That
>>>> and it feeds my OCD issues. :)
>>>>
>>>> 73, and thanks,
>>>> Dave (NK7Z)
>>>> https://www.nk7z.net
>>>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>>>> ARRL Technical Specialist
>>>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>>>>
>>>> On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>>>>> That is some really first rate work.... <big smile> I dig it when
>>>>> folks are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise
>>>>> organize things logically.... and NEATLY!!
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>>
>>>>> ______________________
>>>>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>>>>> (318) 518-1389
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the
>>>>>> Patch Panel does not say K3 on it... That means I can replace
>>>>>> things with a K4 later... :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Re: [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

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More advice from my robotics engineer son, who uses Panduit all over his
robots!

"The most important secret of Panduit: Put a rubber band across the top
between the tabs every couple of feet to keep things inside while
filling it up. Easy to hook/unhook while getting everything in place."

david
KC1DNY
KX3 right now, but ... . Good thing the K4 isn't shipping yet!

On 4/21/2020 11:48 PM, Dave Cole wrote:

> Hi Clay,
>
> I used the folks called Front Panel Express at:
>
> https://www.frontpanelexpress.com/
>
> Took a few hours to learn the free software they provide, but overall
> it was easy. Not cheap, but very good results...
>
> They even have a version that runs under Linux...
>
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>
> On 4/21/20 8:03 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>> I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! <big smile>
>>
>> Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel? I'd love
>> to have access to something like that!
>>
>> 73
>>
>> ______________________
>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>> (318) 518-1389
>>
>> On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:
>>> Thanks Clay... I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick
>>> of haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna! That
>>> and it feeds my OCD issues. :)
>>>
>>> 73, and thanks,
>>> Dave (NK7Z)
>>> https://www.nk7z.net
>>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>>> ARRL Technical Specialist
>>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>>>
>>> On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>>>> That is some really first rate work.... <big smile> I dig it when
>>>> folks are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise
>>>> organize things logically.... and NEATLY!!
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> ______________________
>>>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>>>> (318) 518-1389
>>>>
>>>> On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:
>>>>> https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/
>>>>>
>>>>> I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the
>>>>> Patch Panel does not say K3 on it... That means I can replace
>>>>> things with a K4 later... :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

Please thank him for that tip!!! I will be using that from now on!!!

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
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On 4/22/20 10:17 AM, David Haines wrote:

> More advice from my robotics engineer son, who uses Panduit all over his
> robots!
>
> "The most important secret of Panduit: Put a rubber band across the top
> between the tabs every couple of feet to keep things inside while
> filling it up. Easy to hook/unhook while getting everything in place."
>
> david
> KC1DNY
> KX3 right now, but ... . Good thing the K4 isn't shipping yet!
>
> On 4/21/2020 11:48 PM, Dave Cole wrote:
>> Hi Clay,
>>
>> I used the folks called Front Panel Express at:
>>
>> https://www.frontpanelexpress.com/
>>
>> Took a few hours to learn the free software they provide, but overall
>> it was easy. Not cheap, but very good results...
>>
>> They even have a version that runs under Linux...
>>
>> 73, and thanks,
>> Dave (NK7Z)
>> https://www.nk7z.net
>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>> ARRL Technical Specialist
>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>>
>> On 4/21/20 8:03 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>>> I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! <big smile>
>>>
>>> Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel? I'd love
>>> to have access to something like that!
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> ______________________
>>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>>> (318) 518-1389
>>>
>>> On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:
>>>> Thanks Clay... I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick
>>>> of haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna! That
>>>> and it feeds my OCD issues. :)
>>>>
>>>> 73, and thanks,
>>>> Dave (NK7Z)
>>>> https://www.nk7z.net
>>>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>>>> ARRL Technical Specialist
>>>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>>>>
>>>> On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>>>>> That is some really first rate work.... <big smile> I dig it when
>>>>> folks are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise
>>>>> organize things logically.... and NEATLY!!
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>>
>>>>> ______________________
>>>>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>>>>> (318) 518-1389
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the
>>>>>> Patch Panel does not say K3 on it... That means I can replace
>>>>>> things with a K4 later... :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

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Thank you all for you responses.
73 de David, M0XDF

> On 22 Apr 2020, at 16:51, Dave Cole <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I did a quick and dirty review of the software used to design the Patch Panel, at:
>
> www.nk7z.net <http://www.nk7z.net/>
>
> top review...
>
> The tray is Panduit, see:
>
> http://www.panduit.com/heiler/SelectionGuides/D-WDSG01--SA-UKE-WiringDuctProduct-W.pdf <http://www.panduit.com/heiler/SelectionGuides/D-WDSG01--SA-UKE-WiringDuctProduct-W.pdf>
>
> I used the F type of Panduit.
>
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net <https://www.nk7z.net/>
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> On 4/22/20 6:39 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
>> Yes, I’d like to know to and the source of the cable trays.
>> It’s very neat and professional.
>> Mind you, it seems to me, that lots of cool stuff is not available from UK suppliers :-(
>> 73 de David, M0XDF
>> This story concerns four people – Everybody, Somebody, Anybody and Nobody.
>> There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.
>> Anybody could have done it but in the end Nobody did it.
>> Everybody got very angry over this because it really was Somebody’s job.
>> Everybody thought Somebody would do it, but Nobody realised that Anybody wouldn’t do it
>> It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when actually Nobody had asked Anybody.
>>> On 22 Apr 2020, at 04:03, Clay Autery <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! <big smile>
>>>
>>> Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel? I'd love to have access to something like that!
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> ______________________
>>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>>> (318) 518-1389
>>>
>>> On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:
>>>> Thanks Clay... I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick of haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna! That and it feeds my OCD issues. :)
>>>>
>>>> 73, and thanks,
>>>> Dave (NK7Z)
>>>> https://www.nk7z.net
>>>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>>>> ARRL Technical Specialist
>>>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>>>>
>>>> On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>>>>> That is some really first rate work.... <big smile> I dig it when folks are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise organize things logically.... and NEATLY!!
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>>
>>>>> ______________________
>>>>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>>>>> (318) 518-1389
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the Patch Panel does not say K3 on it... That means I can replace things with a K4 later... :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

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Dave;

Perhaps this has been asked, but what are you doing for equipment bonding?

73!
Jack, W6FB

> On Apr 22, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Dave Cole <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Please thank him for that tip!!! I will be using that from now on!!!
>
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
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> On 4/22/20 10:17 AM, David Haines wrote:
>> More advice from my robotics engineer son, who uses Panduit all over his robots!
>> "The most important secret of Panduit: Put a rubber band across the top between the tabs every couple of feet to keep things inside while filling it up. Easy to hook/unhook while getting everything in place."
>> david
>> KC1DNY
>> KX3 right now, but ... . Good thing the K4 isn't shipping yet!
>> On 4/21/2020 11:48 PM, Dave Cole wrote:
>>> Hi Clay,
>>>
>>> I used the folks called Front Panel Express at:
>>>
>>> https://www.frontpanelexpress.com/
>>>
>>> Took a few hours to learn the free software they provide, but overall it was easy. Not cheap, but very good results...
>>>
>>> They even have a version that runs under Linux...
>>>
>>> 73, and thanks,
>>> Dave (NK7Z)
>>> https://www.nk7z.net
>>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>>> ARRL Technical Specialist
>>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>>>
>>> On 4/21/20 8:03 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>>>> I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! <big smile>
>>>>
>>>> Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel? I'd love to have access to something like that!
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>>
>>>> ______________________
>>>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>>>> (318) 518-1389
>>>>
>>>> On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:
>>>>> Thanks Clay... I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick of haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna! That and it feeds my OCD issues. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, and thanks,
>>>>> Dave (NK7Z)
>>>>> https://www.nk7z.net
>>>>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>>>>> ARRL Technical Specialist
>>>>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>>>>>> That is some really first rate work.... <big smile> I dig it when folks are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise organize things logically.... and NEATLY!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ______________________
>>>>>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>>>>>> (318) 518-1389
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:
>>>>>>> https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the Patch Panel does not say K3 on it... That means I can replace things with a K4 later... :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Re: [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

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On 4/22/2020 10:17 AM, David Haines wrote:

> "The most important secret of Panduit: Put a rubber band across the top
> between the tabs every couple of feet to keep things inside while
> filling it up. Easy to hook/unhook while getting everything in place."

The standard in the telephone industry always was to lace down the
cables to the cable tray every 2 feet or so, What today's "technicians"
do is an exercise for the viewer.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

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I'm halfway thru a complete shack reorg. Cabling not so fancy but I
am using peg-board with tiewraps thru the holes to dress cables. I
have 17 external antenna cables and at least that many rotator and
control cables going outside. Main advantage of the reorg is
shortening cable length to both QRO amps and 50A PS (dropping IR
loses). Photos on my website when complete.

73, Ed - KL7UW
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The finished product for grounding will be less pretty! I am using a
single point type grounding system, with one of those copper bars
mounted on insulators as the center.

That bar is mounted on the rear of the desk vertical, (not on the
hutch), just below where the hutch sits, and centered left to right
behind the K3/P3/Amp/Tuner, about 6 inches below the back of the desktop.

Below that will be two 12 connector power strips. All power is fed to
the two power strips from a UPS, so everything save the KPA500 is on
clean power. The UPS will be grounded as the radios are. The KPA500 is
on the same AC circuit, but not on the UPS.

A flat copper strap will run from the grounding bar directly to each
rigs chassis ground point, not via Panduit, but behind the Panduit. All
computers will have the chassis grounded in the same way, but I will use
a #6, not copper sheeting.

I am trying to reduce the potential for ground loops, so I will not be
using the patch panel as a ground connection point, it will just look
like long coax runs to the equipment.

I will be installing an entrance panel, and an additional ground rod
later this summer.

The entrance panel will be connected via #6 to a set of three 8 foot
ground rods, one at the electrical service, one at my shack, just
outside the house, 15 feet away from the service ground, and a third, 15
feet further down the house, all connected with #6 as well.

All incoming coax will be fed in via the entrance panel. The entrance
panel is a NEMA4 weatherproof box, 3 by 2, with a 1/4 inch copper sheet
bolted to the raised supports in the rear of the box.

The copper plate inside the entrance panel is where the station outside
ground system connects, and where the stations inside ground system
connects via a Polyphasor on each coax cable, and a #8 copper wire.

On the rear of the desk will be a CM Choke I constructed-- RG-400, on
two FT-240/31 cores.

At the antenna, is coax, feeding the Entrance panel. I am conflicted on
grounding the base of the antenna, and possibly adding another set of
Polyphasors there... More reading is needed on this... Any suggestions
are welcome...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 4/22/20 10:57 AM, Jack Brindle wrote:

> Dave;
>
> Perhaps this has been asked, but what are you doing for equipment bonding?
>
> 73!
> Jack, W6FB
>
>
>> On Apr 22, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Dave Cole <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Please thank him for that tip!!! I will be using that from now on!!!
>>
>> 73, and thanks,
>> Dave (NK7Z)
>> https://www.nk7z.net
>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>> ARRL Technical Specialist
>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>>
>> On 4/22/20 10:17 AM, David Haines wrote:
>>> More advice from my robotics engineer son, who uses Panduit all over his robots!
>>> "The most important secret of Panduit: Put a rubber band across the top between the tabs every couple of feet to keep things inside while filling it up. Easy to hook/unhook while getting everything in place."
>>> david
>>> KC1DNY
>>> KX3 right now, but ... . Good thing the K4 isn't shipping yet!
>>> On 4/21/2020 11:48 PM, Dave Cole wrote:
>>>> Hi Clay,
>>>>
>>>> I used the folks called Front Panel Express at:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.frontpanelexpress.com/
>>>>
>>>> Took a few hours to learn the free software they provide, but overall it was easy. Not cheap, but very good results...
>>>>
>>>> They even have a version that runs under Linux...
>>>>
>>>> 73, and thanks,
>>>> Dave (NK7Z)
>>>> https://www.nk7z.net
>>>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>>>> ARRL Technical Specialist
>>>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>>>>
>>>> On 4/21/20 8:03 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>>>>> I ABSOLUTELY understand, and identify! <big smile>
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you clue us in on how you sourced/built that panel? I'd love to have access to something like that!
>>>>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>>
>>>>> ______________________
>>>>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>>>>> (318) 518-1389
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/21/20 21:49, Dave Cole wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks Clay... I decided to add the patch panel because I am sick of haveing to rewire everything I want to change an antenna! That and it feeds my OCD issues. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73, and thanks,
>>>>>> Dave (NK7Z)
>>>>>> https://www.nk7z.net
>>>>>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>>>>>> ARRL Technical Specialist
>>>>>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/21/20 7:07 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>>>>>>> That is some really first rate work.... <big smile> I dig it when folks are fastidious about their cable routing and otherwise organize things logically.... and NEATLY!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ______________________
>>>>>>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>>>>>>> (318) 518-1389
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 04/21/20 18:53, Dave Cole wrote:
>>>>>>>> https://www.nk7z.net/rf-patch-panel/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am undertaking a full rebuild of my operating position, note the Patch Panel does not say K3 on it... That means I can replace things with a K4 later... :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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Re: [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

On 4/22/2020 1:51 PM, Dave Cole wrote:
> I am trying to reduce the potential for ground loops, so I will not be
> using the patch panel as a ground connection point, it will just look
> like long coax runs to the equipment.

Ain't no such thing as a "ground loop," except to the extent that it
could couple a magnetic field. In practice, that only happens when
there's an error in mains power wiring, or when there's leakage flux
from a big power transformer in close proximity. Indeed, with proper
bonding for lightning protection and hum/buzz/RFI control, there SHOULD
be loops due to multiple bonding paths. That's addressed in this slide
deck for talks I've done at Visalia, Pacificon, and to multiple ham
clubs, and most of it was incorporated in Ward Silver's ARRL book on the
topic, on which we collaborated.

http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf

>
> I will be installing an entrance panel, and an additional ground rod
> later this summer.
>
> The entrance panel will be connected via #6 to a set of three 8 foot
> ground rods, one at the electrical service, one at my shack, just
> outside the house, 15 feet away from the service ground, and a third, 15
> feet further down the house, all connected with #6 as well.
>
> All incoming coax will be fed in via the entrance panel. The entrance
> panel is a NEMA4 weatherproof box, 3 by 2, with a 1/4 inch copper sheet
> bolted to the raised supports in the rear of the box.
>
> The copper plate inside the entrance panel is where the station outside
> ground system connects, and where the stations inside ground system
> connects via a Polyphasor on each coax cable, and a #8 copper wire.
>
> On the rear of the desk will be a CM Choke I constructed-- RG-400, on
> two FT-240/31 cores.
>
> At the antenna, is coax, feeding the Entrance panel. I am conflicted on
> grounding the base of the antenna, and possibly adding another set of
> Polyphasors there... More reading is needed on this...

The aforementioned link, and Ward's book. BTW -- all the connectors on
that beautiful new panel SHOULD be bonded to the panel, and the panel
should be bonded to your station ground bus. Elecraft's earliest VHF
transverters were built with feedthrough BNCs that were insulated from
the shielding enclosure, and the two I bought used are unstable as a
result.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft-K3] Latest on the new home for my K3...

Hi Jim,
Thanks, I was hoping you might chime in with some advice... It will be
simple to add a ground to the panel... I used metal BNC with star
washers on each. Also, thanks for the links, I'll go look them over in
the morning!

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 4/22/20 8:14 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

> On 4/22/2020 1:51 PM, Dave Cole wrote:
>> I am trying to reduce the potential for ground loops, so I will not be
>> using the patch panel as a ground connection point, it will just look
>> like long coax runs to the equipment.
>
> Ain't no such thing as a "ground loop," except to the extent that it
> could couple a magnetic field. In practice, that only happens when
> there's an error in mains power wiring, or when there's leakage flux
> from a big power transformer in close proximity. Indeed, with proper
> bonding for lightning protection and hum/buzz/RFI control, there SHOULD
> be loops due to multiple bonding paths. That's addressed in this slide
> deck for talks I've done at Visalia, Pacificon, and to multiple ham
> clubs, and most of it was incorporated in Ward Silver's ARRL book on the
> topic, on which we collaborated.
>
> http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf
>>
>> I will be installing an entrance panel, and an additional ground rod
>> later this summer.
>>
>> The entrance panel will be connected via #6 to a set of three 8 foot
>> ground rods, one at the electrical service, one at my shack, just
>> outside the house, 15 feet away from the service ground, and a third,
>> 15 feet further down the house, all connected with #6 as well.
>>
>> All incoming coax will be fed in via the entrance panel. The entrance
>> panel is a NEMA4 weatherproof box, 3 by 2, with a 1/4 inch copper
>> sheet bolted to the raised supports in the rear of the box.
>>
>> The copper plate inside the entrance panel is where the station
>> outside ground system connects, and where the stations inside ground
>> system connects via a Polyphasor on each coax cable, and a #8 copper
>> wire.
>>
>> On the rear of the desk will be a CM Choke I constructed-- RG-400, on
>> two FT-240/31 cores.
>>
>> At the antenna, is coax, feeding the Entrance panel. I am conflicted
>> on grounding the base of the antenna, and possibly adding another set
>> of Polyphasors there... More reading is needed on this...
>
> The aforementioned link, and Ward's book. BTW -- all the connectors on
> that beautiful new panel SHOULD be bonded to the panel, and the panel
> should be bonded to your station ground bus. Elecraft's earliest VHF
> transverters were built with feedthrough BNCs that were insulated from
> the shielding enclosure, and the two I bought used are unstable as a
> result.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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