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What are you doing to solve this problem???? The K3 is so light....when I push a button I move the K3 back. What are you doing to solve that issue? I am thinking of putting a "stop" behind the rig of some sort. Anyone dealt with this minor inconvenience? lee - K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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A nice big Kent keyer paddle sits on top of the radio (big lump of brass).
Simon Brown, HB9DRV -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lee Buller" <[hidden email]> > > What are you doing to solve this problem???? > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by k0wa@swbell.net
Hi Lee,
I think I'm pretty light-fingered, but mine sets on a pad of "no-slip" rubber from WallyWorld's kitchen accessory area. Actually, the K2 is even lighter and more prone to moving. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [hidden email] _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by k0wa@swbell.net
They are called "push buttons" not "punch buttons".
Go easy young jedi !!!! I have yet had the problem of the rig moving on the desk while in use.
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In reply to this post by k0wa@swbell.net
Lee,
You must really have a strong button pushing finger - mine takes an estimated 10 pounds of force to move it. The rear feet and the bail pads grip tightly to my desktop. It takes less force if the front bail is retracted. You might try cleaning the rear feet and your desktop surface (dust will keep the feet from sticking). If you are operating with the bail retracted, you could put some small (thin) rubber stick-on pads under the plastic front feet. 73, Don W3FPR Lee Buller wrote: > > What are you doing to solve this problem???? > > The K3 is so light....when I push a button I move the K3 back. What are you doing to solve that issue? > > I am thinking of putting a "stop" behind the rig of some sort. Anyone dealt with this minor inconvenience? > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Ken Kopp-3
Everybody wants something - You guys remind me of a comparison I saw of what
was wanted in the modern day automobile and I can't remember but a small portion of it: higher ground clearance tighter turning radius more maneuverable lighter weight less expensive tires larger windshield greater visibility more air circulation convertible top sun roof and many, many more The model "T" had all of this, but NO, you all elected to give it up for the new way. You learned it, you like it better. 73, Jim _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Don, I am rather large guy...with big hands. I have mine sitting on the bail on a shelf that is rather nicely finished. It really does move when I try to change bands or modes. So, I think it is time for a trip to Wally World for a no skid mat Thanks to all of you who replied with great words or wisdom.... Lee - K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Ken Kopp-3
Maybe the Wallyworld no slip pad is the answer for the
K3 as well. You can probably use the scrap left over after you cut the piece for under your key! Cookie, K5EWJ --- Ken Kopp <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Lee, > > I think I'm pretty light-fingered, but mine sets on > a pad of > "no-slip" rubber from WallyWorld's kitchen accessory > area. > > Actually, the K2 is even lighter and more prone to > moving. > > 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP > [hidden email] > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by k0wa@swbell.net
I don't have the lightness problem. But . . .
HOLD-IT, a tacky substance sold through office supply stores (probably under various names) to stick pictures onto walls, works like a charm on the bottom of paddles. I have had the same hunk of that stuff since college (1960s). Lasts forever and can be re-kneaded when it gets dusty and dirty. Allows paddles (and K3s) to stay put regardless of how much force you apply, but still permits re-positioning. Leaves no residue on the substrate. Great stuff. Kent K9ZTV Lee Buller K0WA wrote: > > > The K3 is so light....when I push a button I move the K3 back. Anyone dealt with this minor inconvenience? > > > lee - K0WA > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Yes, but beware, there seems to be various flavours of this rubber mesh
material. I used a black material which has now permanently left it's mesh fingerprint on top of a rather expensive rig. Impossible to remove the fingerprint! I'm now very wary of using this stuff and wouldn't dream of letting it near my K3, well maybe underneath is OK. But do not... put certain brands of this rubbery mesh on top of a surface you really care about, without testing it out! I have no idea of the chemical composition of this stuff, but you have been warned... 73, Deni F5VJC Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > A bit of the rubbery mesh material sold in most stores carrying household > goods that is intended to keep plates and things from sliding off of shelves > works *great*! > > I got a roll in California a decade or more ago. They have to consider the > problem of regular earthquakes knocking things about but I understand it's > available just about everywhere these days. > > A piece under my bug and paddles works wonders too! They stay put like they > weighed 100 lbs. > > I have found that the stuff works best of one cleans the surface first. I > very small amount of dust helps defeat it's ability to grip a smooth > surface. > > Ron AC7AC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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G'day,
Astonished by all this. I've never moved my K3 merely by pressing the front panel buttons. Anyone hitting them that hard won't be doing them any favours. Regards, Mike VP8NO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[hidden email]> To: "'Elecraft Reflector'" <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 11:22 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Lightness of the K3 A bit of the rubbery mesh material sold in most stores carrying household goods that is intended to keep plates and things from sliding off of shelves works *great*! <snip> _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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You might want to buy the more expensive form of this material at a
woodworking store. It is used for routing and sanding wood pieces. I would think, given the application, that it would not harm that surface. But, as they say, YMMV. At 6/30/2008 07:15 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: >Wow!! > >The stuff I have is light brown and has never left a mark on anything. > >When I opened the roll I threw away the labels, so I can't suggest a brand >name. > >Ron AC7AC > >-----Original Message----- >From: Deni [mailto:[hidden email]] >Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 3:46 PM >To: Ron D'Eau Claire >Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector' >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightness of the K3 > > >Yes, but beware, there seems to be various flavours of this rubber mesh >material. > >I used a black material which has now permanently left it's mesh >fingerprint on top of a rather expensive rig. > >Impossible to remove the fingerprint! > >I'm now very wary of using this stuff and wouldn't dream of letting it >near my K3, well maybe underneath is OK. > >But do not... put certain brands of this rubbery mesh on top of a >surface you really care about, without testing it out! > >I have no idea of the chemical composition of this stuff, but you have >been warned... > >73, Deni >F5VJC > >_______________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: [hidden email] >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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K9ZTV wrote:
> I don't have the lightness problem. But . . . Testing just now shows that with the bail extended to raise the front of the rig it doesn't slide around. With the rig resting flat on all four feet it is fairly easy to make it slide, especially when pushing buttons on the left side. I use a rectangle of clear, ribbed plastic shelf liner as a mat under the rig and another under a Kex Key to prevent unwanted movement. Very effective. Gus Hansen KB0YH _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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For the life of me I can't figure out why you guys are having this
problem unless you are using stripped-down versions of the K3 sans amplifier, ATU, etc. which would mean a lighter rig, I suppose. Or else the surface your K3s are sitting on have been waxed or polished. I can push and hold any button on the front panel, including those on the left side, and the rig simply doesn't move. It's sitting smack dab on top of an FT-1000D with all four K3 feet in contact with the painted top, no bail being used, and it is completely rock-squat-dead-immovable with ANY button activation. But again, check out my earlier post today about a substance called HOLD-IT (or derivations therefrom). It would definitely solve your problem with no adverse side-effects. 73, Kent K9ZTV Augie Hansen wrote: > K9ZTV wrote: >> I don't have the lightness problem. But . . . > > Testing just now shows that with the bail extended to raise the front > of the rig it doesn't slide around. With the rig resting flat on all > four feet it is fairly easy to make it slide, especially when pushing > buttons on the left side. > > I use a rectangle of clear, ribbed plastic shelf liner as a mat under > the rig and another under a Kex Key to prevent unwanted movement. Very > effective. > > Gus Hansen > KB0YH Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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K9ZTV wrote:
> For the life of me I can't figure out why you guys are having this > problem unless you are using stripped-down versions of the K3 sans > amplifier, ATU, etc. which would mean a lighter rig, I suppose. Or > else the surface your K3s are sitting on have been waxed or polished. My K3 is fully loaded with all currently available options including the 100 watt PA. It sits on a shelf just above the laptop computer used for logging and other functions. I haven't polished the shelf, but it is quite smooth. > I can push and hold any button on the front panel, including those on > the left side, and the rig simply doesn't move. It's sitting smack > dab on top of an FT-1000D with all four K3 feet in contact with the > painted top, no bail being used, and it is completely > rock-squat-dead-immovable with ANY button activation. Aren't you the lucky one? I ran additional tests the K3's susceptibility to sliding by placing it on top of several other rigs and pushing as in my earlier "shelf" test. It was unmovable in all of the tests, apparently without regard to the cost of the subordinate radio. The relative roughness of the painted surfaces gives the feet on the K3 greater grip than the smooth shelf offers. I'll continue to use the plastic shelf liner as it is only 1/32 inch thick and a lot cheaper than an FT1K. Other alternatives, such as roughing up the shelf surface with sandpaper, don't appeal to me. Cheers, Gus Hansen KB0YH _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hey you guys, better put a brick on top of it or a chunk of lead to nail it down to your desk. Most people complain that their rig is too heavy and now we have the supper light K3 which don't weigh a lot but performs better than any other rig on the market. This kind of reminds me that years ago the land mobile import radios had a habit of putting some weights inside their hand mic as most radio users thought that if the mic was very lite that it then must have been poor quality. They were simply trying to make them feel heavy like the Motorola hand mics. I just don't get it with always someone bitchin' and nit pickin' this awsome performing radio. Please give it a rest and let the folks at Elecraft do their stuff.
You all have a good day from Fern with K3 #412 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Augie Hansen" <[hidden email]> To: "K9ZTV" <[hidden email]> Cc: "Elecraft" <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:40 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lightness of the K3 K9ZTV wrote: > For the life of me I can't figure out why you guys are having this > problem unless you are using stripped-down versions of the K3 sans > amplifier, ATU, etc. which would mean a lighter rig, I suppose. Or > else the surface your K3s are sitting on have been waxed or polished. My K3 is fully loaded with all currently available options including the 100 watt PA. It sits on a shelf just above the laptop computer used for logging and other functions. I haven't polished the shelf, but it is quite smooth. > I can push and hold any button on the front panel, including those on > the left side, and the rig simply doesn't move. It's sitting smack > dab on top of an FT-1000D with all four K3 feet in contact with the > painted top, no bail being used, and it is completely > rock-squat-dead-immovable with ANY button activation. Aren't you the lucky one? I ran additional tests the K3's susceptibility to sliding by placing it on top of several other rigs and pushing as in my earlier "shelf" test. It was unmovable in all of the tests, apparently without regard to the cost of the subordinate radio. The relative roughness of the painted surfaces gives the feet on the K3 greater grip than the smooth shelf offers. I'll continue to use the plastic shelf liner as it is only 1/32 inch thick and a lot cheaper than an FT1K. Other alternatives, such as roughing up the shelf surface with sandpaper, don't appeal to me. Cheers, Gus Hansen KB0YH _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1517 - Release Date: 6/24/2008 8:41 PM _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by k0wa@swbell.net
Those of us with the 10W model could usefully bolt a 12V gell cell to the top panel using the space not occupied by the KPA3. That should make it heavy enough not to slide around and the radio could also be self powered like the K2 with the battery...
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