List Rule change, PLEASE!
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Eric, Wayne and Don -
I have read approximately 1500 of the post on this list. I have found some of them very informative, while others are almost useless. Why? Because there needs to be a basic rule change. I appreciate the fact that you guys get back SO quickly when someone post a problem (ME). But 99 times out of 100 all the resolution and responses are done OFF LIST. So those of us who are doing research find NO resolution to the problem posted unless the poster comes back and says what they found. Could we PLEASE post all responses on list? This gives all of us a history of what has transpired to resolve all the postings about perceived or actual problems. In fact, don't answer any response that isn't done on the list. I know, you are going to say that some posters don't read the list but respond directly to the email posting. If we make it a rule that all postings MUST be through the list or they are not responded to, everyone will get used to doing it that way. Thank you for listening and appreciate your comments. John McClun NQ3RP Always QRP! |
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John,
I don't know what to say. I usually keep the first few exchanges 'on-list' just because there may be others interested. But if the problem resolution gets into deep details and requires a number of "try this" or "try that", I take it off-list. I figure it is up to the person with the problem to post the results when we are finished. Sadly, you are correct, many do not. 73, Don W3FPR NQ3RP wrote: > Eric, Wayne and Don - > > I have read approximately 1500 of the post on this list. I have found some > of them very informative, while others are almost useless. Why? > > Because there needs to be a basic rule change. I appreciate the fact that > you guys get back SO quickly when someone post a problem (ME). But 99 times > out of 100 all the resolution and responses are done OFF LIST. So those of > us who are doing research find NO resolution to the problem posted unless > the poster comes back and says what they found. > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On 7/15/2010 8:06 AM, NQ3RP wrote:
> Eric, Wayne and Don - > > ...Could we PLEASE post all responses on list? > ===== A lot of the traffic on this server is just rag-chewing, having little or nothing to do specifically with Elecraft problems. IMHO that kind of traffic that should be OFF the list. I am, myself, ambivalent about being subscribed to the server. It generates a totally immodest amount of stuff. Since everyone likes to sound off on their favorite issues (me too), perhaps there should be a chat version of the list, and a second, more important, one devoted to problems and their solutions. A rule that requires only problem-related, Elecraft, postings seems a bit draconian, though it was probably the intent of the originators. A truly anal list moderator would make it so. I'm glad I don't have to make those decisions. John Ragle -- W1ZI ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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IMHO, I think the private answering originates from flaming the people
answering questions, not on this reflector (there aren't any other reflectors like this one) like others, but it is a learned response that makes one wary and carrys across. It makes one not want to answer with a general fix or how to get started and improve later for fear the hard line purist will send a page of criticism that ONLY applies to purists with unlimited funding and the poor fellow asking just got his first radio and wants to know the minumum height of an 80 meter dipole or the number of radials for a vertical because the manual says "it doesn't need any". His reaction to a battle on the reflector, is this what ham radio is like? > If we make it a rule that all postings MUST be through the list Some reflectors only place the reflector email address in the response bar but one can still glean the actual email address from the message. Ask for it as you did, you can't force it. Flame suit on. 73, de Jim KG0KP ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Yet with that might there be a handy way to get included in the off list resolution? I've missed some of the most interesting resolutions because it has gone off list. (Some of us dig deeper.....or are gluttons...)
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> Sender: [hidden email] Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:40:12 To: NQ3RP<[hidden email]> Reply-To: [hidden email] Cc: <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] List Rule change, PLEASE! John, I don't know what to say. I usually keep the first few exchanges 'on-list' just because there may be others interested. But if the problem resolution gets into deep details and requires a number of "try this" or "try that", I take it off-list. I figure it is up to the person with the problem to post the results when we are finished. Sadly, you are correct, many do not. 73, Don W3FPR NQ3RP wrote: > Eric, Wayne and Don - > > I have read approximately 1500 of the post on this list. I have found some > of them very informative, while others are almost useless. Why? > > Because there needs to be a basic rule change. I appreciate the fact that > you guys get back SO quickly when someone post a problem (ME). But 99 times > out of 100 all the resolution and responses are done OFF LIST. So those of > us who are doing research find NO resolution to the problem posted unless > the poster comes back and says what they found. > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I always go under the assumption that if one guy wants to know
something, several other list members do too. The only times I respond off list are when I am reasonably sure that no one but the person asking the question cares about the answer, or when the exchange needs to get very detailed to solve a unique problam (as W3FPR often does). 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Jul 15, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > I always go under the assumption that if one guy wants to know > something, several other list members do too. I usually go off list, which I very often do, when the question gets specific. Stuff like "K3 sees no transmit audio from cocoaModem." There are not enough cocoaModem users to waste bandwidth on. 73 Chen, W7AY ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Let's end this thread.
In general, if a topic is taken off list to discuss, which is always OKk, please also post the final resolution to the list so others can benefit from the results. This will save on future questions on the same topic posted to the list. in general, it is outside of the guidelines to argue what should, and should not be posted to the list on the list itself. That just clogs up everything for others reading the list. Please send those requests to me, the list moderator for consideration. 73, Eric WA6HHQ List Modulator ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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