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vk3dbd
Hear Hear  on your comments Larry K2GN

I skim thru  nearly all the reflector postings,  a time consuming task,
and often find initially it is about a subject of no interest to me.
 But of course one picks up much info on the way  -   If only I could
remember it all !!

I would like to see  say three categories,  K3   (my interest)      Kx3
perhaps incorporated with other qrp  gear like KX1  and  perhaps
accessories  which could be P3 and KPA500 and KAT500    etc.

What do others think?

 David     VK3DBD/G3SCD   (  K3 and KPA500  and KAT 500 on the way)
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Re: Long Messages

K2GN
It's really easier than that.
A properly identified message - either in the subject or by using things
like - [K3], or [P3] etc..
would allow fast id'ing of the message and even filtering and filing of
messages in their own mail folder.  I've been using that scheme but guys
just don't format the subject line well enough for it to work.
Bottom line - better subjects and less chit chat goes a long way towards
helping things.

Larry/K2GN - http://k2gn.com

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of David Dunn
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 6:33 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] Long Messages

Hear Hear  on your comments Larry K2GN

I skim thru  nearly all the reflector postings,  a time consuming task, and
often find initially it is about a subject of no interest to me.
 But of course one picks up much info on the way  -   If only I could
remember it all !!

I would like to see  say three categories,  K3   (my interest)      Kx3
perhaps incorporated with other qrp  gear like KX1  and  perhaps
accessories  which could be P3 and KPA500 and KAT500    etc.

What do others think?

 David     VK3DBD/G3SCD   (  K3 and KPA500  and KAT 500 on the way)
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Re: Long Messages

Phil Kane-2
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On 12/27/2012 3:33 PM, David Dunn wrote:

> I would like to see  say three categories,  K3   (my interest)      Kx3
> perhaps incorporated with other qrp  gear like KX1  and  perhaps
> accessories  which could be P3 and KPA500 and KAT500    etc.
>
> What do others think?

I have filters on my e-mail reader (Thunderbird) that will examine the
subject line and/or body of the messages as they are downloaded and
direct them into the following subfolders:  Elecraft General (no
reference to K2 or K3), Elecraft K2 (my rig), Elecraft K3 (also catches
the "children" of K3 and P3), and Elecraft Misc (other products such as
KPA500).

May not work for everybody but it works for me.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: Long Messages

Bill K9YEQ
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Use the piece of equipment you want to follow and use the word in the
subject of the filter you are building.  E.G, KX3.  All subjects with KX3
will wind up where you want. The rest: simply delete. Or send all to the
trash except the KX3.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of K2GN
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 5:53 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Long Messages

It's really easier than that.
A properly identified message - either in the subject or by using things
like - [K3], or [P3] etc..
would allow fast id'ing of the message and even filtering and filing of
messages in their own mail folder.  I've been using that scheme but guys
just don't format the subject line well enough for it to work.
Bottom line - better subjects and less chit chat goes a long way towards
helping things.

Larry/K2GN - http://k2gn.com

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of David Dunn
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 6:33 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] Long Messages

Hear Hear  on your comments Larry K2GN

I skim thru  nearly all the reflector postings,  a time consuming task, and
often find initially it is about a subject of no interest to me.
 But of course one picks up much info on the way  -   If only I could
remember it all !!

I would like to see  say three categories,  K3   (my interest)      Kx3
perhaps incorporated with other qrp  gear like KX1  and  perhaps
accessories  which could be P3 and KPA500 and KAT500    etc.

What do others think?

 David     VK3DBD/G3SCD   (  K3 and KPA500  and KAT 500 on the way)

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Re: Long Messages

David Windisch
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Brgds,
Dave, N3HE
Cincinnati OH
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Re: Long Messages

mikerodgerske5gbc
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The moderator has always expressed his concern to not make seperate lists.

It used to be practice to start the subject line with the model like [K3] but
the group as a whole will not keep this up. It helps those that have filters to seperate them.


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Subject: [Elecraft] Long Messages
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Hear Hear  on your comments Larry K2GN

I skim thru  nearly all the reflector postings,  a time consuming task,
and often find initially it is about a subject of no interest to me.
But of course one picks up much info on the way  -   If only I could
remember it all !!

I would like to see  say three categories,  K3   (my interest)      Kx3
perhaps incorporated with other qrp  gear like KX1  and  perhaps
accessories  which could be P3 and KPA500 and KAT500    etc.

What do others think?

David     VK3DBD/G3SCD   (  K3 and KPA500  and KAT 500 on the way)


73
Mike R

Play me some fiddle, but no stinkin' violin!

Amateur/Ham Radio KE5GBC
HF & Echolink mobile
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Re: Long Messages

Barry
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Nabble appears somewhat broken.  It rarely sorts messages these days, even with a title which includes something like [K3].

For example, the last 8 K3 posts which were placed in the K3 subdirectory date back to Dec 2, and the last 8 P3 posts date back to Oct 2, with only one in Dec and one in Nov.

Barry W2UP

David Windisch wrote
Hi, all concerned:

In my not so mumbled opinion, if everyone would:

1. read msgs *online* from Nabble *only*, and

2. post *online* only to the official Nabble sub-groups, and

3. on the subject line, enclose the official Nabble sub-group's name in brackets, for example like this: [K3], followed by the poster's subject for discussion, and

4. read and heed the moderator's "sticky" posted regulations at the top of each sub-group, especially the
Topics or first group,

we might save some poor soul from having to decide a thousand times a day what msg should be moved from the Topics group to which sub-group.

But . . . what do I know?  I'm just a reader like you fellas.

Brgds and HNY,
Dave, N3HE
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Re: Long Messages

David Windisch
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Brgds,
Dave, N3HE
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Re: Long Messages

Ken G Kopp
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I've never found Nabble to be "usable"... won't use it.

Reading this list hasn't been a problem for me, either.

73!

K0PP

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Barry <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Nabble appears somewhat broken.  It rarely sorts messages these days, even
> with a title which includes something like [K3].
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Re: Long Messages

Don Wilhelm-4
Most email clients have a filter mechanism where which allows you to put
messages into a folder you specify.  For instance, I filter on
"[Elecraft]" and all reflector posts go into the Elecraft folder.  I can
quickly exercise the delete key unless it is something I think is worth
keeping.  In that case, I could manually move it to a sub-folder if I
desired.
I find it is easier to handle my email with my Thunderbird email client
than to attempt to view it on the web.  I only use the web for things I
want to dig out of the archives.  YMMV

Try the filters, they make life more bearable than having everything
rolled up in one Inbox.

73,
Don W3FPR
On 12/28/2012 10:20 AM, Ken G Kopp wrote:
> I've never found Nabble to be "usable"... won't use it.
>
> Reading this list hasn't been a problem for me, either.
>
> 73!
>
> K0PP
>

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Re: Long Messages

Barry
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Tnx for the info, Dave.  When I joined the list a few years ago, everything went into its proper subfolder, and I just assumed it was an automated process.  

As Elecraft products continue to grow in number and popularity, a single list will become more and more unmanageable over time.

73,
Barry W2UP

David Windisch wrote
Yeh . . . It's not broken, Barry, just doing only the limited tasks its code allows.

I had a conversation or two with the individual who (formerly and somewhat regularly) sorted things manually.  It's still manual.  He wanted to know if I could cruft (sic) some autosort code; I replied, with thanks for the implied flattery, that it's always been above my abilities, much more (less?) my paygrade.  For example, I have no idea how to construct effective error traps.

<snip>

Brgds and HNY,
Dave, N3HE
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Barry [via Elecraft]
  To: David Windisch
  Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 9:09 AM
  Subject: Re: Long Messages


  Nabble appears somewhat broken.  It rarely sorts messages these days, even with a title which includes something like [K3].

  For example, the last 8 K3 posts which were placed in the K3 subdirectory date back to Dec 2, and the last 8 P3 posts date back to Oct 2, with only one in Dec and one in Nov.

  Barry W2UP


    David Windisch wrote
    Hi, all concerned:

    In my not so mumbled opinion, if everyone would:

    1. read msgs *online* from Nabble *only*, and

    2. post *online* only to the official Nabble sub-groups, and

    3. on the subject line, enclose the official Nabble sub-group's name in brackets, for example like this: [K3], followed by the poster's subject for discussion, and

    4. read and heed the moderator's "sticky" posted regulations at the top of each sub-group, especially the
    Topics or first group,

    we might save some poor soul from having to decide a thousand times a day what msg should be moved from the Topics group to which sub-group.

    But . . . what do I know?  I'm just a reader like you fellas.

    Brgds and HNY,
    Dave, N3HE



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Re: Long Messages

k6dgw
If there's going to be a vote [which I sincerely doubt], I vote for one
list.  I have yet to exhaust the capabilities of T-Bird in filtering and
segregating messages.  Including the Elecraft product(s) in the subject
line really really helps, but even if not there, 98%+ of the Elecraft
list messages still end up where I want them.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
- www.cqp.org

"In this age, the first thing you need to learn is the location of the
Del key."
        Leo Endres, Philosopher and software engineer

On 12/28/2012 10:26 AM, Barry wrote:

> As Elecraft products continue to grow in number and popularity, a single
> list will become more and more unmanageable over time.


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Re: Long Messages

Bill K9YEQ
Fred,
Likewise.  I have so much Elecraft stuff I don't want to miss anything
important to me.  I don't bother with any messages that don't include the
proper subject.  It goes into the deleted folder.
73,
Bill
K9YEQ
K2 FT, KX1 FT, KX3 FT, KAT500 FT
-----Original Message-----
If there's going to be a vote [which I sincerely doubt], I vote for one
list.  I have yet to exhaust the capabilities of T-Bird in filtering and
segregating messages.  Including the Elecraft product(s) in the subject line
really really helps, but even if not there, 98%+ of the Elecraft list
messages still end up where I want them.
73,
Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
- www.cqp.org
"In this age, the first thing you need to learn is the location of the
Del key."
        Leo Endres, Philosopher and software engineer
On 12/28/2012 10:26 AM, Barry wrote:
> As Elecraft products continue to grow in number and popularity, a single
> list will become more and more unmanageable over time.


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Re: Long Messages

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ
Administrator
As stated before, we will keep it as a single list. Let's end the thread for now.

73,
Eric
Moderator
www.elecraft.com
_..._



On Dec 28, 2012, at 3:44 PM, Bill K9YEQ <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Fred,
> Likewise.  I have so much Elecraft stuff I don't want to miss anything
> important to me.  I don't bother with any messages that don't include the
> proper subject.  It goes into the deleted folder.
> 73,
> Bill
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