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Looking for shortened Ham-Stick antenna article

n2htt-2
I remember seeing  an article/recipe for loading a Ham-Stick style monoband antenna using a shortened whip and the next lower band antenna, for example using a 30m base with a 12" whip for 20 meters.
Anyone ever seen anything like this?
I am interested in mounting a monoband vertical on my Honda CRV, but I don't want to keep removing it, so I want keep the antenna short.
Thanks,
Mike N2HTT
K1 s/n 0566
KX1 s/n 099
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Re: RE: Looking for shortened Ham-Stick antenna article

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Aron,

Close, but not exactly what I was looking for....

I have a few HamSticks, and a couple of HamStick clones (made by Valor, I think) and they do indeed work pretty well. Typically the "stick" part with the coil wrapped around it is about 3 1/2 feet long, and the whips run about 4 feet, making a vertical about 7 feet long when assembled.

The mount on my CRV is on the spare carrier on the hatch door -- with a 7 foot vertical mounted there, the top of the antenna is at about 11 feet - too high to drive around with without worrying about it.

I remember seeing in a magazine article one tip about using the "stick" for one band lower than you want, with a shortened whip of about a foot. For instance, using a 30M stick with a 1 foot whip on 20 meters. I also remember seeing an article about modifying these antennas by unwrapping some of the coiled wire from the end of the stick, and using it with no whip at all.

It was the articles and/or any experiences that anyone may have with this approach that I was looking for.

I will do some experimentation, but if I could find the article first, or someone has already tried this, I could direct my experiments a bit.

Thanks for your quick reply,
73
Mike N2HTT

----- Original Message -----
From: Aron Brown <[hidden email]>
Date: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:24 am
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Looking for shortened Ham-Stick antenna article

> Morning Mike:
> I have used the "mini hamsticks on my Volvo station wagon with some
> success.The 20 meter antenna works great but it took some doing to
> tune the 40 meter
> one. I have made quite a few contacts using these antennas. Not
> sure if this
> is what your talking about, but you can get these antennas at HRO.
> Good Luck
>
> Aron
> NN1F
> Bedford, NH
> FP#122
>
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Re: RE: Looking for shortened Ham-Stick antenna article

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Bill,

I have a Diamond trunk lid mount that fits nicely on the upper edge of the spare tire mount. It attaches with two fairly sharp pointed set screws -- I sanded a little bare spot for ground contact, then applied touch up paint around the seam to seal it.

Feed line is about 6 feet of RG-174 built into the mount, that passes easily over the hatch gasket. The mount itself is a standard 3/8" thread.

The mount has been on the car for about five years, still works well and has good ground.

I will go look up the Diamond model number tonight and let you know.

73,
Mike N2HTT

> Hello Mike,
> How do you attach your antenna on the spare tire carrier?
> Tnx es 73,
> Bill Penhallegon  W4STX
> Clearwater, Florida
>
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Re: Looking for shortened Ham-Stick antenna article

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Leigh,

Thanks for the update - sounds like Lakeview has updated their product line since I last bought a HamStick.

At lunch today I tried a brief Ham Radio Experiment, and answered my own question: took my 40M HamStick base and put a shorty whip from an old 2m antenna on it -- 9 inches of whip gave a  minimum 2:1 SWR on 30  meters - well within the range of the ATU in my K1.

It seemed to hear well, but I haven't tried to transmit on it yet, so I don't know if this is actually a workable solution, but it looks promising. We're having nice spring-like weather in the Northeast these past few days, so I may get to try some more tomorrow.

73,
Mike N2HTT

> Mike,
> The Lakeview company makes both short and long Hamsticks (their
> brand).  
> I have found I can put the short ones for 40, 30, and 20 on top of
> my
> Subaru Outback and drive around town, but the long ones are only
> good
> when parked.
> Leigh / WA5ZNU

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