I have this loop - it's the 40M-15M version with the
tuning box. I have not had good luck with this very expensive ($450) antenna. Its high Q makes tuning a challenge. Once you move just couple kHz either way, the SWR is very bad and it needs retuning. It is hard to tune if there is anything metalic near the antenna. This antenna is really only good if you plan to sit on a frequency and call CQ. However, if you're operating QRP, you're bound to have more success by jumping around and replying to a CQ or tail-ending a QSO. This kind of operation is not really compatible with the nature of this antenna. On the 40M and 30M, this antenna is very inefficient, to the point of being useless. Once you get to 20M and above, even a short length of wire with a tuner will do at least as well as this antenna. And it will cost you far less. For a temporary/stealth setup there are much better and cheaper solutions. If you're QRP, something I've found to that work well is a cheap MFJ whip, Elecraft T1 tuner, and a counterpoise. Very portable and economical. 73, Mike N9OHW __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
I just ordered the 40 -15 meter loop (it will be here on the 20th). The reviews looked surprisingly good (of course, if it looks too good to be true, it probably is). I've tried various indoor antennas (such as the Buddipole), but I have +5 over 9 noise inside. I've tried whips out the window, but it didn't work well. I built a 9' in diameter loop out of #6 copper wire, that I used inside with an SGC-231 tuner. It tuned up well and lowered the noise to about S1 - 3, but I was unable to make any contacts. On SSB last weekend, I was able to copy DX stations on 20 meters, so I think it wasn't that the loop was so attenuated that the noise just sounded lower. So after reading the reviews, I bought the MFJ loop, and it is pricey. I live on the second floor of a two-story apartment, and I plan on mounting it on the roof. In fact, because other tenants have dishes up there, I am just going to hire a dish installer to put it up to avoid any suspicion. But this is only possible because it looks similar to a dish, i.e., I'm not buying it because I have some notion that I can compete with a SteppIr up 100 feet. It is the only antenna that I have seen that could be mounted up on the roof in the clear. I'm going to try to use a rotator, but I don't think I'll push it. If I could put up a dipole or something better, I would do so. Michael, how do you have (or had) the loop installed? I saw one ham who had it sitting on a balcony, under a tarp and claimed that it worked great. However, the date of the statement is important. The good results might have been at the sunspot peak. I'll report back when I get it set up. Tom W6EIJ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I just received the MFJ-1788 loop today, from AES. The package looked okay except for a small area where it sustained a hit from a blunt object, but nothing that looked really bad. I opened the package, and there was no packing - the loop was suspended by two cardboard holders on each end - the loop looked undamaged. When I took it out, I could hear something rolling around inside the plastic shroud, and then, a gear left in the box. The damage inside the plastic case was significant, and I give all this detail to say, the box wasn't in bad shape, so the damage was surprising. I had read that the 1788 is built very well - having looked inside, I disagree. Inside the widest area of the plastic shroud, is a massive capacitor - but the plates rub. The literature talks about the polished capacitor plates - these look like oxidized aluminum. The ends of the capacitor are pc board. Others have remarked that the shroud is somewhat, well....cheap. I agree. It is a two-piece flexible plastic shroud, that is held together with sheetmetal screws. I think it needs something, such as plastic tape to strengthen and seal it. The main damage is from the motor drive for the capacitor - the motor and gears are contained in a black plastic cylinder, about two inches in diameter and about 2.5 inches long. This, I think, is the weak link - the plastic is very thin, and the small motor is at the end of the cylinder, away from the capacitor, i.e., the weight is on the extreme end of the cylinder. One would not expect that there is not enough weight to shear-off cylinder from the end of the capacitor if the unit were dropped, except that the plastic is very thin, but that is what happended. The drive gears are very small, some metal and some plastic. When the cylinder broke, it severed a wire. In that this antenna is made to use outside, I would think it would be better built. The loop itself is in two pieces, a bit easier to build, I think, then a full circle, but it is very sturdy. I'll report back, when I get a working one. If anyone is interested in pictures, my email is good on qrz.com. Tom W6EIJ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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