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N9GB

MICROHAM USB III INTERFACE WITH K3 UTILITY DOES NOT WORK

I am still trying to get a K3 talking. I have a connection through a
Microham USB III Interface box that connects the K3 RS232 port to my PC
running Win 7 64 Pro. The path is from the K3 to the Microham III USB
interface, then there is a straight USB connection from the Microham to the
PC. I have downloaded the K3 Utility and tried to see if it will establish
connection with the PC but it will not. COM port 1 is used. The K3 setting
is currently at 38400 baud but I also tried setting the K3 baud rate at
4800 and doing a power on/off but with the same results. I see the K3
utility screen on the PC step through the various baud rates but it will not
sync up to the K3. The PC recognizes the Microham USB interface when looking
at the Win 7 Device Manager but it indicates there is no device driver. I
don¹t always trust what the PC says though. Can someone point me to a
device driver I can download and install. My K3 FW is Rev 5.38.

73¹s
Greg

Greg Best P.E.
16100 Outlook Avenue
Stilwell, KS 66085
816-792-2913

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Henrik Stenstrom

Re: MICROHAM USB III INTERFACE WITH K3 UTILITY DOES NOT WORK

Somewhere in the deep dark memory I remember that com1 and com2 cant be used

My own setup uses com3

De vk2hhs

Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 Feb 2018, at 06:23, Greg Best <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I am still trying to get a K3 talking. I have a connection through a
> Microham USB III Interface box that connects the K3 RS232 port to my PC
> running Win 7 64 Pro. The path is from the K3 to the Microham III USB
> interface, then there is a straight USB connection from the Microham to the
> PC. I have downloaded the K3 Utility and tried to see if it will establish
> connection with the PC but it will not. COM port 1 is used. The K3 setting
> is currently at 38400 baud but I also tried setting the K3 baud rate at
> 4800 and doing a power on/off but with the same results. I see the K3
> utility screen on the PC step through the various baud rates but it will not
> sync up to the K3. The PC recognizes the Microham USB interface when looking
> at the Win 7 Device Manager but it indicates there is no device driver. I
> don¹t always trust what the PC says though. Can someone point me to a
> device driver I can download and install. My K3 FW is Rev 5.38.
>
> 73¹s
> Greg
>
>
> Greg Best P.E.
> 16100 Outlook Avenue
> Stilwell, KS 66085
> 816-792-2913
>
>
>
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N9GB

Re: MICROHAM USB III INTERFACE WITH K3 UTILITY DOES NOT WORK

I hope this is not the case but if it is, this is really bad. My PC is
actually a MacBook Pro with VMWARE Fusion on it with Win 7 as virtual OS.
One of the things with the virtual OS is that only certain ports are
available and Com1 appears to be the only port addressable. The only way I
will know that is to take my old WIN XP laptop and try it.

Not what I had in mind over the DX test weekend….

73’s
Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: Henrik Stenstrom <[hidden email]>
Date: Friday, February 16, 2018 at 2:55 PM
To: Greg Best <[hidden email]>
Cc: <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] MICROHAM USB III INTERFACE WITH K3 UTILITY DOES
NOT WORK

>Somewhere in the deep dark memory I remember that com1 and com2 cant be
>used
>
>My own setup uses com3
>
>De vk2hhs
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 17 Feb 2018, at 06:23, Greg Best <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I am still trying to get a K3 talking. I have a connection through a
>> Microham USB III Interface box that connects the K3 RS232 port to my PC
>> running Win 7 64 Pro. The path is from the K3 to the Microham III USB
>> interface, then there is a straight USB connection from the Microham to
>>the
>> PC. I have downloaded the K3 Utility and tried to see if it will
>>establish
>> connection with the PC but it will not. COM port 1 is used. The K3
>>setting
>> is currently at 38400 baud but I also tried setting the K3 baud rate at
>> 4800 and doing a power on/off but with the same results. I see the K3
>> utility screen on the PC step through the various baud rates but it
>>will not
>> sync up to the K3. The PC recognizes the Microham USB interface when
>>looking
>> at the Win 7 Device Manager but it indicates there is no device driver.
>>I
>> don¹t always trust what the PC says though. Can someone point me to a
>> device driver I can download and install. My K3 FW is Rev 5.38.
>>
>> 73¹s
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> Greg Best P.E.
>> 16100 Outlook Avenue
>> Stilwell, KS 66085
>> 816-792-2913
>>
>>
>>
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jh3sif

Re: MICROHAM USB III INTERFACE WITH K3 UTILITY DOES NOT WORK

In reply to this post by N9GB

My connection K3 -> P3 -> USB III -> PC works fine with Microham driver installed.
With the Microham driver GUI, you need to configure virtual COM port to communication PC software such as K3 Utility and others to K3.

73 de JH3SIF, Keith

> 2018/02/17 4:23、Greg Best <[hidden email]>のメール:
>
> I am still trying to get a K3 talking. I have a connection through a
> Microham USB III Interface box that connects the K3 RS232 port to my PC
> running Win 7 64 Pro. The path is from the K3 to the Microham III USB
> interface, then there is a straight USB connection from the Microham to the
> PC. I have downloaded the K3 Utility and tried to see if it will establish
> connection with the PC but it will not. COM port 1 is used. The K3 setting
> is currently at 38400 baud but I also tried setting the K3 baud rate at
> 4800 and doing a power on/off but with the same results. I see the K3
> utility screen on the PC step through the various baud rates but it will not
> sync up to the K3. The PC recognizes the Microham USB interface when looking
> at the Win 7 Device Manager but it indicates there is no device driver. I
> don¹t always trust what the PC says though. Can someone point me to a
> device driver I can download and install. My K3 FW is Rev 5.38.
>
> 73¹s
> Greg
>
>
> Greg Best P.E.
> 16100 Outlook Avenue
> Stilwell, KS 66085
> 816-792-2913
>
>
>
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Don Wilhelm

Re: MICROHAM USB III INTERFACE WITH K3 UTILITY DOES NOT WORK

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Greg,

Do you have a USB to serial cable other than the MicroHam?

If so, try connecting using K3 Utility with it. If it works, then you
will know the K3 is OK, and the computer (at least for K3 Utility) is OK
too.
If that is the case, then you will only need to look at the MicroHam,
the serial cable from the Microham to the K3 and the cable between the
computer and Microham.

That is a lot better than trying to troubleshoot the entire system
(computer, Microham and K3) as a single unit - in other words, isolate
the problem to one box and its connecting cables.

Set the baud rate for the COM port at 38400.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/16/2018 2:23 PM, Greg Best wrote:

> I am still trying to get a K3 talking. I have a connection through a
> Microham USB III Interface box that connects the K3 RS232 port to my PC
> running Win 7 64 Pro. The path is from the K3 to the Microham III USB
> interface, then there is a straight USB connection from the Microham to the
> PC. I have downloaded the K3 Utility and tried to see if it will establish
> connection with the PC but it will not. COM port 1 is used. The K3 setting
> is currently at 38400 baud but I also tried setting the K3 baud rate at
> 4800 and doing a power on/off but with the same results. I see the K3
> utility screen on the PC step through the various baud rates but it will not
> sync up to the K3. The PC recognizes the Microham USB interface when looking
> at the Win 7 Device Manager but it indicates there is no device driver. I
> don¹t always trust what the PC says though. Can someone point me to a
> device driver I can download and install. My K3 FW is Rev 5.38.

tomb18

Re: MICROHAM USB III INTERFACE WITH K3 UTILITY DOES NOT WORK

In reply to this post by N9GB

Hi,
I may be mistaken with the following. Joe can answer this best. Using the
K3 utility with the MicroHam, is not something you generally want to do.
Many of the commands are not part of the Elecraft serial port API.
I know that in the past when Win4K3Suite was being developed, the MicroHam
would not pass P3 commands and Joe was kind enough to add these commands to
the router firmware. Now in the case of the K3 Utility, many of the
commands are not published and therefore might not be passable through the
serial port.
Use of the K3 utility though any software router is not recommended and you
might brick your K3.

That being said, VMWare fusion will pass all USB ports through to the
Windows 7 virtual machine. You must first plug them into the Mac OS and
make sure they work there. Then you start up your virtual machine and make
sure you have enabled and connected the USB devices in the VMWare settings
(I think there is a tab on the top to do so.) If this is not done, then no
ports are available.
Hope that helps.
73 Tom
va2fsq.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Wilhelm
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 5:55 PM
To: Greg Best ; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] MICROHAM USB III INTERFACE WITH K3 UTILITY DOES NOT
WORK

Greg,

Do you have a USB to serial cable other than the MicroHam?

If so, try connecting using K3 Utility with it. If it works, then you
will know the K3 is OK, and the computer (at least for K3 Utility) is OK
too.
If that is the case, then you will only need to look at the MicroHam,
the serial cable from the Microham to the K3 and the cable between the
computer and Microham.

That is a lot better than trying to troubleshoot the entire system
(computer, Microham and K3) as a single unit - in other words, isolate
the problem to one box and its connecting cables.

Set the baud rate for the COM port at 38400.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/16/2018 2:23 PM, Greg Best wrote:

> I am still trying to get a K3 talking. I have a connection through a
> Microham USB III Interface box that connects the K3 RS232 port to my PC
> running Win 7 64 Pro. The path is from the K3 to the Microham III USB
> interface, then there is a straight USB connection from the Microham to
> the
> PC. I have downloaded the K3 Utility and tried to see if it will
> establish
> connection with the PC but it will not. COM port 1 is used. The K3
> setting
> is currently at 38400 baud but I also tried setting the K3 baud rate at
> 4800 and doing a power on/off but with the same results. I see the K3
> utility screen on the PC step through the various baud rates but it will
> not
> sync up to the K3. The PC recognizes the Microham USB interface when
> looking
> at the Win 7 Device Manager but it indicates there is no device driver. I
> don¹t always trust what the PC says though. Can someone point me to a
> device driver I can download and install. My K3 FW is Rev 5.38.

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Bill Frantz

Re: MICROHAM USB III INTERFACE WITH K3 UTILITY DOES NOT WORK

A first step might be to get things working using the K3 utility
under MacOS. After that works, then fight whatever problems may
exist in VMware and Windows.

73 Bill AE6JV

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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: MICROHAM USB III INTERFACE WITH K3 UTILITY DOES NOT WORK

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Have you installed microHAM USB Device Router in the Windows Virtual
Machine? Router installs both the FTDI (hardware) driver and the
Eltima VSPAX (software) driver.

The hardware driver is responsible for communications between the
Router software and the interface. The VSPAX is responsible for
creating the virtual COM port (as well as mapping rig control/CAT
to one virtual port, and PTT, CW/FSK to a different virtual port
if needed).

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2/16/2018 4:09 PM, Greg Best wrote:

> I hope this is not the case but if it is, this is really bad. My PC is
> actually a MacBook Pro with VMWARE Fusion on it with Win 7 as virtual OS.
> One of the things with the virtual OS is that only certain ports are
> available and Com1 appears to be the only port addressable. The only way I
> will know that is to take my old WIN XP laptop and try it.
>
> Not what I had in mind over the DX test weekend….
>
> 73’s
> Greg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henrik Stenstrom <[hidden email]>
> Date: Friday, February 16, 2018 at 2:55 PM
> To: Greg Best <[hidden email]>
> Cc: <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] MICROHAM USB III INTERFACE WITH K3 UTILITY DOES
> NOT WORK
>
>> Somewhere in the deep dark memory I remember that com1 and com2 cant be
>> used
>>
>> My own setup uses com3
>>
>> De vk2hhs
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 17 Feb 2018, at 06:23, Greg Best <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am still trying to get a K3 talking. I have a connection through a
>>> Microham USB III Interface box that connects the K3 RS232 port to my PC
>>> running Win 7 64 Pro. The path is from the K3 to the Microham III USB
>>> interface, then there is a straight USB connection from the Microham to
>>> the
>>> PC. I have downloaded the K3 Utility and tried to see if it will
>>> establish
>>> connection with the PC but it will not. COM port 1 is used. The K3
>>> setting
>>> is currently at 38400 baud but I also tried setting the K3 baud rate at
>>> 4800 and doing a power on/off but with the same results. I see the K3
>>> utility screen on the PC step through the various baud rates but it
>>> will not
>>> sync up to the K3. The PC recognizes the Microham USB interface when
>>> looking
>>> at the Win 7 Device Manager but it indicates there is no device driver.
>>> I
>>> don¹t always trust what the PC says though. Can someone point me to a
>>> device driver I can download and install. My K3 FW is Rev 5.38.
>>>
>>> 73¹s
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>> Greg Best P.E.
>>> 16100 Outlook Avenue
>>> Stilwell, KS 66085
>>> 816-792-2913
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: MICROHAM USB III INTERFACE WITH K3 UTILITY DOES NOT WORK

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On 2/16/2018 6:21 PM, Tom wrote:
>
> I may be mistaken with the following. Joe can answer this best.
> Using the K3 utility with the MicroHam, is not something you
> generally want to do.
The K3 utility runs just fine through microHAM USB Device Router
as long as it is the *only* application accessing the transceiver
and you don't try to update firmware.

I have not attempted to run the P3 utility through microHAM USB
Device Router but have no need to do so. Whenever I update the
firmware in either of my K3(s) or the P3, I switch to a direct
serial connection.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2/16/2018 6:21 PM, Tom wrote:

> Hi,
> I may be mistaken with the following. Joe can answer this best. Using
> the K3 utility with the MicroHam, is not something you generally want to
> do. Many of the commands are not part of the Elecraft serial port API.
> I know that in the past when Win4K3Suite was being developed, the
> MicroHam would not pass P3 commands and Joe was kind enough to add these
> commands to the router firmware. Now in the case of the K3 Utility,
> many of the commands are not published and therefore might not be
> passable through the serial port.
> Use of the K3 utility though any software router is not recommended and
> you might brick your K3.
>
> That being said, VMWare fusion will pass all USB ports through to the
> Windows 7 virtual machine. You must first plug them into the Mac OS and
> make sure they work there. Then you start up your virtual machine and
> make sure you have enabled and connected the USB devices in the VMWare
> settings (I think there is a tab on the top to do so.) If this is not
> done, then no ports are available.
> Hope that helps.
> 73 Tom
> va2fsq.com
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Don Wilhelm
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 5:55 PM
> To: Greg Best ; [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] MICROHAM USB III INTERFACE WITH K3 UTILITY DOES
> NOT WORK
>
> Greg,
>
> Do you have a USB to serial cable other than the MicroHam?
>
> If so, try connecting using K3 Utility with it. If it works, then you
> will know the K3 is OK, and the computer (at least for K3 Utility) is OK
> too.
> If that is the case, then you will only need to look at the MicroHam,
> the serial cable from the Microham to the K3 and the cable between the
> computer and Microham.
>
> That is a lot better than trying to troubleshoot the entire system
> (computer, Microham and K3) as a single unit - in other words, isolate
> the problem to one box and its connecting cables.
>
> Set the baud rate for the COM port at 38400.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 2/16/2018 2:23 PM, Greg Best wrote:
>> I am still trying to get a K3 talking. I have a connection through a
>> Microham USB III Interface box that connects the K3 RS232 port to my PC
>> running Win 7 64 Pro. The path is from the K3 to the Microham III USB
>> interface, then there is a straight USB connection from the Microham
>> to the
>> PC. I have downloaded the K3 Utility and tried to see if it will
>> establish
>> connection with the PC but it will not. COM port 1 is used. The K3
>> setting
>> is currently at 38400 baud but I also tried setting the K3 baud rate at
>> 4800 and doing a power on/off but with the same results. I see the K3
>> utility screen on the PC step through the various baud rates but it
>> will not
>> sync up to the K3. The PC recognizes the Microham USB interface when
>> looking
>> at the Win 7 Device Manager but it indicates there is no device driver. I
>> don¹t always trust what the PC says though. Can someone point me to a
>> device driver I can download and install. My K3 FW is Rev 5.38.
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