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VE3WDM

Macro for text decode

I checked the archives looking for information regarding a macro for the K3 that will turn the text decode on and off. The most recent archive regarding this was from 2013 saying there was none. It's now 2017 and wondering if a macro has been written to preform this function?

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Mike

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Re: Macro for text decode

HiTo my knowledge it is still not possible. You need to be able to read a value from the radio and then perform an UP or DN depending on result.73 Tom va2fsq.com

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I checked the archives looking for information regarding a macro for the K3 that will turn the text decode on and off. The most recent archive regarding this was from 2013 saying there was none. It's now 2017 and wondering if a macro has been written to preform this function?

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Don Wilhelm

Re: Macro for text decode

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Mike,

A macro that will operate the CWT button would be in order - nothing
complicated at all.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/3/2017 7:26 PM, Mike Weir wrote:
> I checked the archives looking for information regarding a macro for the K3 that will turn the text decode on and off. The most recent archive regarding this was from 2013 saying there was none. It's now 2017 and wondering if a macro has been written to preform this function?
>
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I also have been trying to get this to work for the CW mode and have not gotten it to work reliably

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Subject: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode

I checked the archives looking for information regarding a macro for the K3 that will turn the text decode on and off. The most recent archive regarding this was from 2013 saying there was none. It's now 2017 and wondering if a macro has been written to preform this function?

Thanks

Mike

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Don Wilhelm

Re: Macro for text decode

Harry,

Turning CWT is no more complicated than operating the CWT button, but
there are other things that may be involved to achieve successful
decode. Narrowing the bandwidth is one that comes to mind so the
decoder does not have to deal with band noise and other nearby signals.
There are other controls that can enhance the decoding.
In other words, it may produce better results by careful tuning and
other manual controls instead of trying to depend on a a "one button"
macro initiation to provide clear CW decode.
Besides, the human ear is the best interpreter of CW - it will be better
than any CW decoder implemented in software. A CW decoder can usually
interpret perfect code, but it will have trouble with code sent from a
bug with a "lake Erie swing" or code sent from a hand key unless the
sending operator has perfect timing (rare).
Listen to CW so your brain can interpret it without relying on CW
decoders, and you will go a long way toward increasing your CW speed.
20 wpm is the initial goal you should strive for.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/3/2017 10:03 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>
> I also have been trying to get this to work for the CW mode and have not gotten it to work reliably
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Re: Macro for text decode

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I stand corrected.
At some point early last year, the K3 firmware was updated to use the UPB;
and DNB; which will allow changing of the text decode in CW. Prior to that,
the UPB; and DNB; commands did nothing when the SWH40; command was issued
and therefore made it impossible to set text decode on or off without using
the remote control K3/0 protocol.

So the way to put the radio into text decode is as follows:
SWH40; UPB;UPB;UPB:UPB; and then you issue as many DNB; as you wish to
choose the setting. You can do it the other way around as well.
SWH40;DNB;DNB;DNB;DNB; and then UPB; for TX Only, another UPB; for CW5-30
and then UPB; for CW 30-90.

The multiple UPB; s are used to put the setting into a known state since
there are 5 states to the menu item and you could be anywhere in the
sequence.
It is good that the UPB; and DNB; commands don't cycle though the list
continuously. There are a couple of commands like that which then require
reading the VFOB display to determine where you are.

It should work fine now if timing isn't an issue.
73 Tom
va2fsq.com

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From: Don Wilhelm
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 11:23 PM
To: Harry Yingst ; Mike Weir ; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode

Harry,

Turning CWT is no more complicated than operating the CWT button, but
there are other things that may be involved to achieve successful
decode. Narrowing the bandwidth is one that comes to mind so the
decoder does not have to deal with band noise and other nearby signals.
There are other controls that can enhance the decoding.
In other words, it may produce better results by careful tuning and
other manual controls instead of trying to depend on a a "one button"
macro initiation to provide clear CW decode.
Besides, the human ear is the best interpreter of CW - it will be better
than any CW decoder implemented in software. A CW decoder can usually
interpret perfect code, but it will have trouble with code sent from a
bug with a "lake Erie swing" or code sent from a hand key unless the
sending operator has perfect timing (rare).
Listen to CW so your brain can interpret it without relying on CW
decoders, and you will go a long way toward increasing your CW speed.
20 wpm is the initial goal you should strive for.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/3/2017 10:03 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>
> I also have been trying to get this to work for the CW mode and have not
> gotten it to work reliably
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Re: Macro for text decode

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CW Decode 5-40 = MD3;SWH40;;;;;DNB;;;;;DNB;;;;;DNB;;;;;DNB;;;;;UPB;;;;;UPB;;;;;SWH40;

CW Decode 30-90 = MD3;SWH40;;;;;DNB;;;;;DNB;;;;;DNB;;;;;DNB;;;;;UPB;;;;;UPB;;;;;UPB;;;;;SWH40;

CW Decode Off = MD3;SWH40;;;;;DNB;;;;;DNB;;;;;DNB;;;;;DNB;;;;;SWH40;

I just tested these and they worked. si it looks like I just needed more delays.
(Using 5 now, and added some after the TEXT DEC command)

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction (more delays)

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Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode

#yiv9635281630 #yiv9635281630 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv9635281630 You can do something like this:
SWH40; Hold TEXT DEC switchDNB;;;;;;;;;;DNB;;;;;;;;;;;DNB;;;;;;;;;;;DNB;;;;;;;;;;; Drive the choice to off. 10 ; are needed to process the DNB;UPB;;;;;;;;;;UPB;;;;;;;;;; Change to RX THR 1SWT17; Exit text decode

Using the semicolons is a bit dogey but may work.

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Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 8:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode
I also have been trying to get this to work for the CW mode and have not gotten it to work reliably

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To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 7:26 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode

I checked the archives looking for information regarding a macro for the K3 that will turn the text decode on and off. The most recent archive regarding this was from 2013 saying there was none. It's now 2017 and wondering if a macro has been written to preform this function?

Thanks

Mike

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Cady, Fred-2

Re: Macro for text decode

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I think the UPB and DNB are still on the list for the KX3.

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Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 10:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode

I stand corrected.
At some point early last year, the K3 firmware was updated to use the UPB;
and DNB; which will allow changing of the text decode in CW. Prior to that,
the UPB; and DNB; commands did nothing when the SWH40; command was issued
and therefore made it impossible to set text decode on or off without using
the remote control K3/0 protocol.

So the way to put the radio into text decode is as follows:
SWH40; UPB;UPB;UPB:UPB; and then you issue as many DNB; as you wish to
choose the setting. You can do it the other way around as well.
SWH40;DNB;DNB;DNB;DNB; and then UPB; for TX Only, another UPB; for CW5-30
and then UPB; for CW 30-90.

The multiple UPB; s are used to put the setting into a known state since
there are 5 states to the menu item and you could be anywhere in the
sequence.
It is good that the UPB; and DNB; commands don't cycle though the list
continuously. There are a couple of commands like that which then require
reading the VFOB display to determine where you are.

It should work fine now if timing isn't an issue.
73 Tom
va2fsq.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Wilhelm
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 11:23 PM
To: Harry Yingst ; Mike Weir ; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macro for text decode

Harry,

Turning CWT is no more complicated than operating the CWT button, but
there are other things that may be involved to achieve successful
decode. Narrowing the bandwidth is one that comes to mind so the
decoder does not have to deal with band noise and other nearby signals.
There are other controls that can enhance the decoding.
In other words, it may produce better results by careful tuning and
other manual controls instead of trying to depend on a a "one button"
macro initiation to provide clear CW decode.
Besides, the human ear is the best interpreter of CW - it will be better
than any CW decoder implemented in software. A CW decoder can usually
interpret perfect code, but it will have trouble with code sent from a
bug with a "lake Erie swing" or code sent from a hand key unless the
sending operator has perfect timing (rare).
Listen to CW so your brain can interpret it without relying on CW
decoders, and you will go a long way toward increasing your CW speed.
20 wpm is the initial goal you should strive for.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/3/2017 10:03 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>
> I also have been trying to get this to work for the CW mode and have not
> gotten it to work reliably
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Re: Macro for text decode

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I would like to thank you all for the input and it was very interesting seeing the solution come together as I read the posts.
Thanks to all of you for your time
73,
Mike
VE3WDM

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Re: Macro for text decode

You're Welcome

I've been writing a lot of macros lately, since I have a K-Pod and a Genovetion CPS48 Keypad

It just so happened that I was working on that same issue, So in truth you inspired me to fix my Macro.

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I would like to thank you all for the input and it was very interesting
seeing the solution come together as I read the posts.
Thanks to all of you for your time
73,
Mike
VE3WDM

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