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Jim Leder (Hotmail)

Macros

Had a situation this morning where my two macros started giving me goofy responses, and eventually would lock up my K3. The K3 still worked OK, and all was cleared up with a power off/on. I couldn't get the macros to work consistently, no matter what I tried, including the 'soft' reset'. So, I reloaded my firmware (4.60) and this apparently corrected the failure. I had been toying with several different macros and wonder if my playing around somehow fouled things up. I only have 2 macros: PF1 HOLD to put the rig into CW and PF2 HOLD to put the rig into FSK. These are simple macros (thanks K1HTV) and have been working without a hitch, until I attempted to get fancy.

My questions are:
Is it possible to fill up the macro memory slots, even when they appear empty?
Is there a way to clear/reset ALL the macros without reloading the firmware? (this seemed to fix my problem)

Additional curiosity: I was getting an FT0 on the terminal screen over and over of the utility program when things were fouled/locked up. Radio was NOT in split. I do not have the SR.

The radio and macros are now working as they should, but somehow I am sure I messed it up somehow. Any ideas?

Thanks...

Jim Bob Buckeye
AKA
**** Jim Leder****
K8CXM since 1961
IBM retiree since 1999

There are 10 types of people in this world -- those who understand binary
and those who don't.

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N5GE

Re: Macros

Jim,

Can you send us the macro's you are having trouble with?
Maybe we can help you with them.

Thanks,

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:41:00 -0500, "Jim Leder \(Hotmail\)"
<[hidden email]> wrote:

>Had a situation this morning where my two macros started giving me goofy responses, and eventually would lock up my K3. The K3 still worked OK, and all was cleared up with a power off/on. I couldn't get the macros to work consistently, no matter what I tried, including the 'soft' reset'. So, I reloaded my firmware (4.60) and this apparently corrected the failure. I had been toying with several different macros and wonder if my playing around somehow fouled things up. I only have 2 macros: PF1 HOLD to put the rig into CW and PF2 HOLD to put the rig into FSK. These are simple macros (thanks K1HTV) and have been working without a hitch, until I attempted to get fancy.
>
> My questions are:
> Is it possible to fill up the macro memory slots, even when they appear empty?
> Is there a way to clear/reset ALL the macros without reloading the firmware? (this seemed to fix my problem)
>
>Additional curiosity: I was getting an FT0 on the terminal screen over and over of the utility program when things were fouled/locked up. Radio was NOT in split. I do not have the SR.
>
>The radio and macros are now working as they should, but somehow I am sure I messed it up somehow. Any ideas?
>
>Thanks...
>
> Jim Bob Buckeye
> AKA
> **** Jim Leder****
> K8CXM since 1961
> IBM retiree since 1999
>
>There are 10 types of people in this world -- those who understand binary
>and those who don't.
>
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Jim Leder (Hotmail)

Re: Macros

The 2 macros I use work OK since I reloaded the firmware. I tried so many
different, fancy things prior to getting messed up, I'm not sure what they
were now, but it was a lot. That's when I attempted to go back to what I
knew was OK, but they didn't work either. That's when I got desperate and as
a last resort, reloaded the 4.60 firmware.

Here are the two ORIGINAL macros that now work once again:

CW MD3;BW0040;SWH45;MN255; /* PF1 hold */
FSK MD6;DT2;BW0050;SWH47;MN255; /* PF2 hold */

Seems something in the firmware got out of sorts by my screwing around with
those two macros, but I don't know how.

Thanks ... 73

Jim

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Tom H Childers" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 1:59 PM
To: "Jim Leder (Hotmail)" <[hidden email]>
Cc: <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macros

>
> Jim,
>
> Can you send us the macro's you are having trouble with?
> Maybe we can help you with them.
>
> Thanks,
>
> 73,
> Tom
> Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
> ARRL Lifetime Member
> QCWA Lifetime Member
>
> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:41:00 -0500, "Jim Leder \(Hotmail\)"
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>Had a situation this morning where my two macros started giving me goofy
>>responses, and eventually would lock up my K3. The K3 still worked OK, and
>>all was cleared up with a power off/on. I couldn't get the macros to work
>>consistently, no matter what I tried, including the 'soft' reset'. So, I
>>reloaded my firmware (4.60) and this apparently corrected the failure. I
>>had been toying with several different macros and wonder if my playing
>>around somehow fouled things up. I only have 2 macros: PF1 HOLD to put the
>>rig into CW and PF2 HOLD to put the rig into FSK. These are simple macros
>>(thanks K1HTV) and have been working without a hitch, until I attempted to
>>get fancy.
>>
>> My questions are:
>> Is it possible to fill up the macro memory slots, even when they appear
>> empty?
>> Is there a way to clear/reset ALL the macros without reloading the
>> firmware? (this seemed to fix my problem)
>>
>>Additional curiosity: I was getting an FT0 on the terminal screen over and
>>over of the utility program when things were fouled/locked up. Radio was
>>NOT in split. I do not have the SR.
>>
>>The radio and macros are now working as they should, but somehow I am sure
>>I messed it up somehow. Any ideas?
>>
>>Thanks...
>>
>> Jim Bob Buckeye
>> AKA
>> **** Jim Leder****
>> K8CXM since 1961
>> IBM retiree since 1999
>>
>>There are 10 types of people in this world -- those who understand binary
>>and those who don't.
>>
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>

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: Macros

> Seems something in the firmware got out of sorts by my screwing
> around with those two macros, but I don't know how.

I could see how things might get screwed up ... it looks like those
are recursive (calling themselves over and over again). What are you
trying to accomplish?

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2/16/2013 2:12 PM, Jim Leder (Hotmail) wrote:

> The 2 macros I use work OK since I reloaded the firmware. I tried so
> many different, fancy things prior to getting messed up, I'm not sure
> what they were now, but it was a lot. That's when I attempted to go back
> to what I knew was OK, but they didn't work either. That's when I got
> desperate and as a last resort, reloaded the 4.60 firmware.
>
> Here are the two ORIGINAL macros that now work once again:
>
> CW MD3;BW0040;SWH45;MN255; /* PF1 hold */
> FSK MD6;DT2;BW0050;SWH47;MN255; /* PF2 hold */
>
> Seems something in the firmware got out of sorts by my screwing around
> with those two macros, but I don't know how.
>
> Thanks ... 73
>
> Jim
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Tom H Childers" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 1:59 PM
> To: "Jim Leder (Hotmail)" <[hidden email]>
> Cc: <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macros
>
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Can you send us the macro's you are having trouble with?
>> Maybe we can help you with them.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> 73,
>> Tom
>> Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
>> ARRL Lifetime Member
>> QCWA Lifetime Member
>>
>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:41:00 -0500, "Jim Leder \(Hotmail\)"
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Had a situation this morning where my two macros started giving me
>>> goofy responses, and eventually would lock up my K3. The K3 still
>>> worked OK, and all was cleared up with a power off/on. I couldn't get
>>> the macros to work consistently, no matter what I tried, including
>>> the 'soft' reset'. So, I reloaded my firmware (4.60) and this
>>> apparently corrected the failure. I had been toying with several
>>> different macros and wonder if my playing around somehow fouled
>>> things up. I only have 2 macros: PF1 HOLD to put the rig into CW and
>>> PF2 HOLD to put the rig into FSK. These are simple macros (thanks
>>> K1HTV) and have been working without a hitch, until I attempted to
>>> get fancy.
>>>
>>> My questions are:
>>> Is it possible to fill up the macro memory slots, even when they
>>> appear empty?
>>> Is there a way to clear/reset ALL the macros without reloading the
>>> firmware? (this seemed to fix my problem)
>>>
>>> Additional curiosity: I was getting an FT0 on the terminal screen
>>> over and over of the utility program when things were fouled/locked
>>> up. Radio was NOT in split. I do not have the SR.
>>>
>>> The radio and macros are now working as they should, but somehow I am
>>> sure I messed it up somehow. Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks...
>>>
>>> Jim Bob Buckeye
>>> AKA
>>> **** Jim Leder****
>>> K8CXM since 1961
>>> IBM retiree since 1999
>>>
>>> There are 10 types of people in this world -- those who understand
>>> binary
>>> and those who don't.
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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>>
>>
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N5GE

Re: Macros

In reply to this post by Jim Leder (Hotmail)

I agree with Joe.

I don't use MACRO's, but I do write software that uses the K3 Command
set.

The first thing I see is that you are calling the "MN255" command in
each of the MACROs. The MN command is only needed if you are
accessing the menu to change a setting, and you are not doing any
changes to the menu, so you can remove "MN255 from your MACRO's.

The rest of the commands look OK, but I suggest you create your
MACRO's using the K3 Utility. If you do that you can test MACRO's
until they work as you want them to.

Good luck.

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:12:15 -0500, "Jim Leder \(Hotmail\)"
<[hidden email]> wrote:

>The 2 macros I use work OK since I reloaded the firmware. I tried so many
>different, fancy things prior to getting messed up, I'm not sure what they
>were now, but it was a lot. That's when I attempted to go back to what I
>knew was OK, but they didn't work either. That's when I got desperate and as
>a last resort, reloaded the 4.60 firmware.
>
>Here are the two ORIGINAL macros that now work once again:
>
>CW MD3;BW0040;SWH45;MN255; /* PF1 hold */
>FSK MD6;DT2;BW0050;SWH47;MN255; /* PF2 hold */
>
>Seems something in the firmware got out of sorts by my screwing around with
>those two macros, but I don't know how.
>
>Thanks ... 73
>
>Jim
>
>--------------------------------------------------
>From: "Tom H Childers" <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 1:59 PM
>To: "Jim Leder (Hotmail)" <[hidden email]>
>Cc: <[hidden email]>
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macros
>
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Can you send us the macro's you are having trouble with?
>> Maybe we can help you with them.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> 73,
>> Tom
>> Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
>> ARRL Lifetime Member
>> QCWA Lifetime Member
>>
>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:41:00 -0500, "Jim Leder \(Hotmail\)"
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>>Had a situation this morning where my two macros started giving me goofy
>>>responses, and eventually would lock up my K3. The K3 still worked OK, and
>>>all was cleared up with a power off/on. I couldn't get the macros to work
>>>consistently, no matter what I tried, including the 'soft' reset'. So, I
>>>reloaded my firmware (4.60) and this apparently corrected the failure. I
>>>had been toying with several different macros and wonder if my playing
>>>around somehow fouled things up. I only have 2 macros: PF1 HOLD to put the
>>>rig into CW and PF2 HOLD to put the rig into FSK. These are simple macros
>>>(thanks K1HTV) and have been working without a hitch, until I attempted to
>>>get fancy.
>>>
>>> My questions are:
>>> Is it possible to fill up the macro memory slots, even when they appear
>>> empty?
>>> Is there a way to clear/reset ALL the macros without reloading the
>>> firmware? (this seemed to fix my problem)
>>>
>>>Additional curiosity: I was getting an FT0 on the terminal screen over and
>>>over of the utility program when things were fouled/locked up. Radio was
>>>NOT in split. I do not have the SR.
>>>
>>>The radio and macros are now working as they should, but somehow I am sure
>>>I messed it up somehow. Any ideas?
>>>
>>>Thanks...
>>>
>>> Jim Bob Buckeye
>>> AKA
>>> **** Jim Leder****
>>> K8CXM since 1961
>>> IBM retiree since 1999
>>>
>>>There are 10 types of people in this world -- those who understand binary
>>>and those who don't.
>>>
>>>______________________________________________________________
>>>Elecraft mailing list
>>>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>>>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>>Post: mailto:[hidden email]
>>>
>>>This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
>>>Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
>>
>>

Amateur Radio Operator N5GE

Don Wilhelm-4

Re: Macros

In reply to this post by Jim Leder (Hotmail)

Jim,

Why are you re-doing the macro in a continuous loop?
More specific, why do you have the SWH45 and SWH47 included in the macro.
If you assign the first macro to PF1, and then initiate it with a hold
of PF1. it will execute the MD3, then BW0040, but when it sees the
SWH45, it will start all over again, and will never end.

I am not certain how it could be working right now.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/16/2013 2:12 PM, Jim Leder (Hotmail) wrote:

N5GE

Re: Macros

Good catch Don. I missed that one!

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:37:55 -0500, Don Wilhelm
<[hidden email]> wrote:

>Jim,
>
>Why are you re-doing the macro in a continuous loop?
>More specific, why do you have the SWH45 and SWH47 included in the macro.
>If you assign the first macro to PF1, and then initiate it with a hold
>of PF1. it will execute the MD3, then BW0040, but when it sees the
>SWH45, it will start all over again, and will never end.
>
>I am not certain how it could be working right now.
>
>73,
>Don W3FPR
>
>On 2/16/2013 2:12 PM, Jim Leder (Hotmail) wrote:
>> The 2 macros I use work OK since I reloaded the firmware. I tried so
>> many different, fancy things prior to getting messed up, I'm not sure
>> what they were now, but it was a lot. That's when I attempted to go
>> back to what I knew was OK, but they didn't work either. That's when I
>> got desperate and as a last resort, reloaded the 4.60 firmware.
>>
>> Here are the two ORIGINAL macros that now work once again:
>>
>> CW MD3;BW0040;SWH45;MN255; /* PF1 hold */
>> FSK MD6;DT2;BW0050;SWH47;MN255; /* PF2 hold */
>>
>> Seems something in the firmware got out of sorts by my screwing around
>> with those two macros, but I don't know how.
>>
>
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Amateur Radio Operator N5GE

Jim Leder (Hotmail)

Re: Macros

In reply to this post by N5GE

I spent a few hours trying to understand what I am seeing, and it is a case
where the assigned macros are not being remembered to their assigned PF
keys. They work the first time, but after the second PF key gets depressed
(FSK) only the SECOND one is retained in BOTH PF1 and PF. The first macro is
not assigned to PF1 hold anymore, the SECOND macro is assigned to BOTH PF1
and PF2 hold. In this case, since I have FSK as second, it's the one that is
in play on BOTH PF keys. I reversed them and got CW to be dominant. The
macros work perfect from the utility program, just as I want them to.
I did do a read to the utility program, and the macros are in the EPROM as
they were written. Only thing left is the macro assign function is being
somehow corrupted/changed.

Recently I had my K3 back to Elecraft for an FPF board replacement. I sure
hope it's not that again. I sure hope you guys have an idea. I am out of
them.

BTW, without the MN255, the display stays in menu mode. MN255 brings is back
to a normal operating display.

Thanks ...
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Tom H Childers" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:51 PM
To: "Jim Leder (Hotmail)" <[hidden email]>
Cc: "Elecraft" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macros

>
> I agree with Joe.
>
> I don't use MACRO's, but I do write software that uses the K3 Command
> set.
>
> The first thing I see is that you are calling the "MN255" command in
> each of the MACROs. The MN command is only needed if you are
> accessing the menu to change a setting, and you are not doing any
> changes to the menu, so you can remove "MN255 from your MACRO's.
>
> The rest of the commands look OK, but I suggest you create your
> MACRO's using the K3 Utility. If you do that you can test MACRO's
> until they work as you want them to.
>
> Good luck.
>
> 73,
> Tom
> Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
> ARRL Lifetime Member
> QCWA Lifetime Member
>
> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:12:15 -0500, "Jim Leder \(Hotmail\)"
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>The 2 macros I use work OK since I reloaded the firmware. I tried so many
>>different, fancy things prior to getting messed up, I'm not sure what they
>>were now, but it was a lot. That's when I attempted to go back to what I
>>knew was OK, but they didn't work either. That's when I got desperate and
>>as
>>a last resort, reloaded the 4.60 firmware.
>>
>>Here are the two ORIGINAL macros that now work once again:
>>
>>CW MD3;BW0040;SWH45;MN255; /* PF1 hold */
>>FSK MD6;DT2;BW0050;SWH47;MN255; /* PF2 hold */
>>
>>Seems something in the firmware got out of sorts by my screwing around
>>with
>>those two macros, but I don't know how.
>>
>>Thanks ... 73
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>--------------------------------------------------
>>From: "Tom H Childers" <[hidden email]>
>>Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 1:59 PM
>>To: "Jim Leder (Hotmail)" <[hidden email]>
>>Cc: <[hidden email]>
>>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macros
>>
>>>
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> Can you send us the macro's you are having trouble with?
>>> Maybe we can help you with them.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Tom
>>> Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
>>> ARRL Lifetime Member
>>> QCWA Lifetime Member
>>>
>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:41:00 -0500, "Jim Leder \(Hotmail\)"
>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Had a situation this morning where my two macros started giving me goofy
>>>>responses, and eventually would lock up my K3. The K3 still worked OK,
>>>>and
>>>>all was cleared up with a power off/on. I couldn't get the macros to
>>>>work
>>>>consistently, no matter what I tried, including the 'soft' reset'. So, I
>>>>reloaded my firmware (4.60) and this apparently corrected the failure. I
>>>>had been toying with several different macros and wonder if my playing
>>>>around somehow fouled things up. I only have 2 macros: PF1 HOLD to put
>>>>the
>>>>rig into CW and PF2 HOLD to put the rig into FSK. These are simple
>>>>macros
>>>>(thanks K1HTV) and have been working without a hitch, until I attempted
>>>>to
>>>>get fancy.
>>>>
>>>> My questions are:
>>>> Is it possible to fill up the macro memory slots, even when they appear
>>>> empty?
>>>> Is there a way to clear/reset ALL the macros without reloading the
>>>> firmware? (this seemed to fix my problem)
>>>>
>>>>Additional curiosity: I was getting an FT0 on the terminal screen over
>>>>and
>>>>over of the utility program when things were fouled/locked up. Radio was
>>>>NOT in split. I do not have the SR.
>>>>
>>>>The radio and macros are now working as they should, but somehow I am
>>>>sure
>>>>I messed it up somehow. Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks...
>>>>
>>>> Jim Bob Buckeye
>>>> AKA
>>>> **** Jim Leder****
>>>> K8CXM since 1961
>>>> IBM retiree since 1999
>>>>
>>>>There are 10 types of people in this world -- those who understand
>>>>binary
>>>>and those who don't.
>>>>
>>>>______________________________________________________________
>>>>Elecraft mailing list
>>>>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
>>>>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
>>>>Post: mailto:[hidden email]
>>>>
>>>>This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
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>>>
>>>
>
>

Jim Leder (Hotmail)

Re: Macros

In reply to this post by N5GE

Don , I owe you. I've been smacking my head since you suggested it. I
removed the 2 switch parameters, and now it works as it should. Interesting,
I have seen many examples that do this sort of thing, and they all have the
switch parameter imbedded in them. They also do the assign to PF1/PF2.
This macro did once work. I can't say why, but it did. Guess it doesn't
matter now.

I don't do many macros, but I like to learn new things and really try to
exploit the great features on this wonderful piece of gear. Best radio I've
had in over 50 years!

Don and Tom, thanks for the support and suggestions. Guess I'm not too old
to learn something new.

73 ... Jim

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Tom H Childers" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:51 PM
To: "Jim Leder (Hotmail)" <[hidden email]>
Cc: "Elecraft" <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macros

Don Wilhelm-4

Re: Macros

Jim,

You can imbed switch actions into macros, but not the same switch that
the macro is assigned to - that will result in a continuous loop.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/16/2013 11:06 PM, Jim Leder (Hotmail) wrote:

> Don , I owe you. I've been smacking my head since you suggested it. I
> removed the 2 switch parameters, and now it works as it should.
> Interesting, I have seen many examples that do this sort of thing, and
> they all have the switch parameter imbedded in them. They also do the
> assign to PF1/PF2.
> This macro did once work. I can't say why, but it did. Guess it
> doesn't matter now.
>
> I don't do many macros, but I like to learn new things and really try
> to exploit the great features on this wonderful piece of gear. Best
> radio I've had in over 50 years!
>
> Don and Tom, thanks for the support and suggestions. Guess I'm not too
> old to learn something new.
>
> 73 ... Jim
>>> --------------------------------------------------