Major Flaw in the K3
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I have found a really major flaw in the K3. It can be fixed with an
accessory but it will be very expensive. The flaw can be a great frustration. Fortunately, I have been able to fully document what causes it. Here it is - the receiver hears entirely too well. I am hearing all sorts of DX, particularly on 40 and 20 meters, where I spend most of my time. I am hearing a lot of rare DX stations that no one else is calling. The frustration is that when I call them they can't hear me. Often not at all, while at other times they try to get my call but do not manage it. Just because they are S0 or S1 in the K3 is not an excuse; they are solid Q5 copy. This is not a single isolated incident; this has happened to me repeatedly. Of course, once these stations have K3's the problem will probably go away; then they will be able to hear me. But in the mean time this issue must be dealt with. I see two possible solutions. One is to turn off the receiver preamp and turn on the attenuator that Elecraft has so thoughtfully provided - this makes me suspect that Wayne knew all along that this would be a problem - the other is to add a 1500 watt solid state linear with built in antenna tuner and full QSK. I suspect that this is the fix that Eric has in mind. 73 Bob W9KNI _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Congrats Bob. That is the most deftly worded query about the KPA1500 I
have heard! I thought you eschewed high power, though ;-) Because of the K3, the old saying that "You can't work 'em if you can't hear 'em", may have to be revised. 73, Larry N8LP Bob Locher wrote: > I have found a really major flaw in the K3. It can be fixed with an > accessory but it will be very expensive. The flaw can be a great > frustration. Fortunately, I have been able to fully document what > causes it. > > Here it is - the receiver hears entirely too well. > > I am hearing all sorts of DX, particularly on 40 and 20 meters, where > I spend most of my time. I am hearing a lot of rare DX stations that > no one else is calling. > > The frustration is that when I call them they can't hear me. Often not > at all, while at other times they try to get my call but do not manage > it. Just because they are S0 or S1 in the K3 is not an excuse; they > are solid Q5 copy. This is not a single isolated incident; this has > happened to me repeatedly. Of course, once these stations have K3's > the problem will probably go away; then they will be able to hear me. > But in the mean time this issue must be dealt with. > > I see two possible solutions. One is to turn off the receiver preamp > and turn on the attenuator that Elecraft has so thoughtfully provided > - this makes me suspect that Wayne knew all along that this would be a > problem - the other is to add a 1500 watt solid state linear with > built in antenna tuner and full QSK. I suspect that this is the fix > that Eric has in mind. > > 73 > > Bob W9KNI > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hmm, before I dumped money into a new amp I'd say take a look at the
antenna first. The antenna is always the first place to look to improve your signal gettin' out. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Locher <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Sent: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:17 pm Subject: [Elecraft] Major Flaw in the K3 I have found a really major flaw in the K3. It can be fixed with an accessory but it will be very expensive. The flaw can be a great frustration. Fortunately, I have been able to fully document what causes it. Here it is - the receiver hears entirely too well. I am hearing all sorts of DX, particularly on 40 and 20 meters, where I spend most of my time. I am hearing a lot of rare DX stations that no one else is calling. The frustration is that when I call them they can't hear me. Often not at all, while at other times they try to get my call but do not manage it. Just because they are S0 or S1 in the K3 is not an excuse; they are solid Q5 copy. This is not a single isolated incident; this has happened to me repeatedly. Of course, once these stations have K3's the problem will probably go away; then they will be able to hear me. But in the mean time this issue must be dealt with. I see two possible solutions. One is to turn off the receiver preamp and turn on the attenuator that Elecraft has so thoughtfully provided - this makes me suspect that Wayne knew all along that this would be a problem - the other is to add a 1500 watt solid state linear with built in antenna tuner and full QSK. I suspect that this is the fix that Eric has in mind. 73 Bob W9KNI _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com =0 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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[hidden email] wrote:
> Hmm, before I dumped money into a new amp I'd say take a look at the > antenna first. The antenna is always the first place to look to improve > your signal gettin' out. > > > I am sure Bob really needed and appreciated that guidance, Novice that he is, ;-) (extra BIG ;-) -- John - W2AGN _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I know he's got a real nice G5RV up about 15 feet, so I'm sure he's good
to go. W2AGN wrote: > [hidden email] wrote: > >> Hmm, before I dumped money into a new amp I'd say take a look at the >> antenna first. The antenna is always the first place to look to improve >> your signal gettin' out. >> >> >> >> > > I am sure Bob really needed and appreciated that guidance, Novice that he is, > ;-) (extra BIG ;-) > > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Bob,
Dang those engineers at Elecraft. This problem already existed in my K2... you'd assume they had found and fixed the problem by now, right? My shack buddy basically laughs at me, as he doesn't have this problem. "Fred, you're hearing things that arent even there, so please stop yapping at the mike", he then grunts, whilst going back to his TS-480HX. And indeed, I dont hear HIM calling reply to DX, so.... he may be right! Either my K2's finals are gone, or Im hearing DX ghosts :) 73 de Fred Yeah, this was a joke. It's known that the K2/100 hears about 10 times more than what it "can work", so Bob's assumption about the kilowatter is about right, as far as my experience goes. :P --f -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bob Locher Sent: dinsdag 4 september 2007 18:17 To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Major Flaw in the K3 I have found a really major flaw in the K3. It can be fixed with an accessory but it will be very expensive. The flaw can be a great frustration. Fortunately, I have been able to fully document what causes it. Here it is - the receiver hears entirely too well. I am hearing all sorts of DX, particularly on 40 and 20 meters, where I spend most of my time. I am hearing a lot of rare DX stations that no one else is calling. The frustration is that when I call them they can't hear me. Often not at all, while at other times they try to get my call but do not manage it. Just because they are S0 or S1 in the K3 is not an excuse; they are solid Q5 copy. This is not a single isolated incident; this has happened to me repeatedly. Of course, once these stations have K3's the problem will probably go away; then they will be able to hear me. But in the mean time this issue must be dealt with. I see two possible solutions. One is to turn off the receiver preamp and turn on the attenuator that Elecraft has so thoughtfully provided - this makes me suspect that Wayne knew all along that this would be a problem - the other is to add a 1500 watt solid state linear with built in antenna tuner and full QSK. I suspect that this is the fix that Eric has in mind. 73 Bob W9KNI _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: Major Flaw in the K3
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And when you do finally work them you can send RST 519.
73, Leigh/WA5ZNU > From: Bob Locher <[hidden email]> > The frustration is that when I call them they can't hear me. Often not > at all, while at other times they try to get my call but do not manage > it. Just because they are S0 or S1 in the K3 is not an excuse; they are > solid Q5 copy._______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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At 11:27 09/04/2007, Larry Phipps wrote:
>Congrats Bob. That is the most deftly worded query about the KPA1500 >I have heard! I thought you eschewed high power, though ;-) Because >of the K3, the old saying that "You can't work 'em if you can't hear >'em", may have to be revised. The corollary is, "You can't work 'em if they can't hear YOU". Cheersm Tom N0SS _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I have this problem now with my K2!
Ken, NU4I -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bob Locher Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 12:17 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Major Flaw in the K3 I have found a really major flaw in the K3. It can be fixed with an accessory but it will be very expensive. The flaw can be a great frustration. Fortunately, I have been able to fully document what causes it. Here it is - the receiver hears entirely too well. I am hearing all sorts of DX, particularly on 40 and 20 meters, where I spend most of my time. I am hearing a lot of rare DX stations that no one else is calling. The frustration is that when I call them they can't hear me. Often not at all, while at other times they try to get my call but do not manage it. Just because they are S0 or S1 in the K3 is not an excuse; they are solid Q5 copy. This is not a single isolated incident; this has happened to me repeatedly. Of course, once these stations have K3's the problem will probably go away; then they will be able to hear me. But in the mean time this issue must be dealt with. I see two possible solutions. One is to turn off the receiver preamp and turn on the attenuator that Elecraft has so thoughtfully provided - this makes me suspect that Wayne knew all along that this would be a problem - the other is to add a 1500 watt solid state linear with built in antenna tuner and full QSK. I suspect that this is the fix that Eric has in mind. 73 Bob W9KNI _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Bob,
I certainly hope you do not make holes in your tongue after placing it firmly in your cheek. 73, Don W3FPR Bob Locher wrote: > I have found a really major flaw in the K3. It can be fixed with an > accessory but it will be very expensive. The flaw can be a great > frustration. Fortunately, I have been able to fully document what > causes it. > > Here it is - the receiver hears entirely too well. > > snip... _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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