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On Sunday during the forty meter net the station I did not quite catch was:
K5NU - Mike - from Portland, Texas. Now there is one for the CW exam :) Just when you think you have a string they switch states on you! Mine had Athens, Louisiana in it. I was thinking Georgia but no that was not the case. Hopefully conditions will improve for this Sunday's nets. Kevin. KD5ONS _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Kevin,
I still remember my father sending me M I S S I S S A U G A when I was 5 and learning CW. Leigh / WA5ZNU On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 7:01 pm, Kevin Rock wrote: ... > Now there is one for the CW exam :) Just when you think you have a > string they switch states on you! Mine had Athens, Louisiana in it. I > was thinking Georgia but no that was not the case. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)
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Leigh wrote:
I still remember my father sending me M I S S I S S A U G A when I was 5 and learning CW. --------------------- Learning not to anticipate letters is invaluable. It was critical for accurately copying five letter groups of random letters, numbers and punctuation marks (including things like $, (,), # etc) which we did for the commercial radiotelegraph exam years ago. That helps avoid lots of mistakes and lost copy too when you're surprised that what you thought the word was isn't <G>. Trivia item: probably 90% of the Hams know the Morse for the ampersand (&) and don't realize it. It's "ES" or dit, dit-dit-dit. Ron AC7AC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Ahh yes, I remember ES from a year as a costal marine relief operator at
16. What I have forgotten, and it's only been a year or so, is the new prosign for "@" that was invented. Fred K6DGW Auburn CA CM98lw > Trivia item: probably 90% of the Hams know the Morse for the ampersand (&) > and don't realize it. It's "ES" or dit, dit-dit-dit. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)
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On Jan 11, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > Ahh yes, I remember ES from a year as a costal marine relief > operator at 16. What I have forgotten, and it's only been a year > or so, is the new prosign for "@" that was invented. Dah-di-dah-di-di-dah (CA, as in "commercial at"). 73, Bob N7XY _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
RE: Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)
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Bob, N7XY wrote:
> Ahh yes, I remember ES from a year as a costal marine relief > operator at 16. What I have forgotten, and it's only been a year > or so, is the new prosign for "@" that was invented. Dah-di-dah-di-di-dah (CA, as in "commercial at"). ------------------------ Uh, oh! I based my use of "CA" on this announcement from the ARRL last April 30: ==>NEW MORSE "@"; CHARACTER BECOMES OFFICIAL MAY 3 The International Morse code officially gains a new character on May 3. That's when the now-familiar "@"; symbol joins the Morse lexicon as the letters "AC" run together (.--.-.). Known as the "commercial at" or "commat," the @ symbol never rose to the level of usage that demanded a unique Morse character until it gained currency as a critical component of e-mail addresses during the past decade or so. Last December, the International Telecommunication Union Radiocommunication Sector (ITU-R) Study Group 8 agreed on the wording of a Draft New Recommendation ITU-R M.[MORSE] that specified the international Morse code character set and transmission procedures and included the new Morse code character. The pending change has attracted some attention in the media, including mentions on National Public Radio's All Things Considered and in The New York Times. ------------------------ Will the REAL Morse "@" please stand up? Ron AC7AC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
RE: Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)
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That was an EASY one for me, just check my call sign. It's
di-dah-dah-di-dah-dit! Or "AC" as a prosign (run together as one character). Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:14 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata) Ahh yes, I remember ES from a year as a costal marine relief operator at 16. What I have forgotten, and it's only been a year or so, is the new prosign for "@" that was invented. Fred K6DGW Auburn CA CM98lw > Trivia item: probably 90% of the Hams know the Morse for the ampersand > (&) and don't realize it. It's "ES" or dit, dit-dit-dit. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)
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Good Grief Folks! At (@) is simple di-dah dah :) I wondered why they
made it so complicated when the entire word is much shorter. Kevin. KD5ONS By the way: the AND sign comes from American Morse. It is truly a single character with one of those odd length spaces rife in American Morse. KJR On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:13:33 -0800, Fred Jensen <[hidden email]> wrote: > Ahh yes, I remember ES from a year as a costal marine relief operator at > 16. What I have forgotten, and it's only been a year or so, is the new > prosign for "@" that was invented. > > Fred K6DGW > Auburn CA CM98lw > >> Trivia item: probably 90% of the Hams know the Morse for the ampersand >> (&) >> and don't realize it. It's "ES" or dit, dit-dit-dit. Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
RE: Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)
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Try sending the e-mail address: [hidden email]...<G>.
All of the characters on the keyboard have Morse equivalents defined by the ITU to avoid confusion. I guess that's why we're confused. The & may have originated in American Morse, but the ITU recognizes it as the prosign 'ES'. Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Kevin Rock Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 6:23 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata) Good Grief Folks! At (@) is simple di-dah dah :) I wondered why they made it so complicated when the entire word is much shorter. Kevin. KD5ONS By the way: the AND sign comes from American Morse. It is truly a single character with one of those odd length spaces rife in American Morse. KJR _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Kevin Rock wrote:
> Good Grief Folks! At (@) is simple di-dah dah :) I wondered why they made > it so complicated when the entire word is much shorter. Some of us old, imfirm, QLF types might confuse that with W (g) What corfuses a lot of folks is the ~ 73,Thom-k3hrn www.zerobeat.net Home of QRP Web Ring, Drakelist home page,Drake Web Ring, Free Classified Ads for amateur radio, QRP IRC channel, Drake IRC Channel, Elecraft Owners Database www.tlchost.net/hosting/ *** Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata))
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I don't think I ever got the hang of the prosigns... I got the AR.
To me, BT is a dash (-) but I don't know if that's correct or not. I sometimes get the ',' and '?' confused. The / character I know well, because I always hear it on our local repeater ident, and it it's in my beacon's ident (va3grr/b). But.... how can you tell an ES from the letter H? The other ones, the AR, BT, the / character, all have 'unique' sounds when you hear them, right? Isn't ES the same as 'h'? Or am I completely lost? 73 de Stephanie va3uxb K1 # 02132 p.s. As an aside, I stumbled onto the W1AW code practice session last night on 80 meters; that's a great tool for helping build code speed and confidence. I got about 80% of the 10wpm, so I'm not doing as bad as I thought. I was only getting about 50% of the 13wpm but I probably would have done better if I was writing it down. This morning I looked up the W1AW schedule so I'll know when to find them again. It's much better, in my opinion, than tapes or computer- generated stuff, because it's 'real', over the air. The computer stuff and tapes always seemed to me to be too sterile, too perfect. Perhaps too boring and too dull. On 11-Jan-2006, at 21.33.43, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > Try sending the e-mail address: [hidden email]...<G>. > > All of the characters on the keyboard have Morse equivalents > defined by the > ITU to avoid confusion. > > I guess that's why we're confused. > > The & may have originated in American Morse, but the ITU recognizes > it as > the prosign 'ES'. > > Ron AC7AC > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Kevin Rock > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 6:23 PM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata) > > > Good Grief Folks! At (@) is simple di-dah dah :) I wondered why > they > made it so complicated when the entire word is much shorter. > > Kevin. KD5ONS > > By the way: the AND sign comes from American Morse. It is truly a > single > character with one of those odd length spaces rife in American Morse. > KJR _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Stephanie Maks wrote:
> Isn't ES the same as 'h'? Or am I completely lost? ES isn't a prosign, like AR, SK, BT, etc. It's a two letter abbreviation for 'and'. So there's a letter space between the E and he S. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
RE: Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)
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Stephanie, VA3UXB wrote:
I don't think I ever got the hang of the prosigns... I got the AR. To me, BT is a dash (-) but I don't know if that's correct or not. I sometimes get the ',' and '?' confused. The / character I know well, because I always hear it on our local repeater ident, and it it's in my beacon's ident (va3grr/b). But.... how can you tell an ES from the letter H? The other ones, the AR, BT, the / character, all have 'unique' sounds when you hear them, right? Isn't ES the same as 'h'? Or am I completely lost? ---------------------------------------- Excellent point, Stephanie! All prosigns are sent as a single character and indicated, for the sake of simplicity, as letters that, if sent without the normal space, will produce the prosign. All prosigns are chosen so they won't have the problems you mention. This is a list of the prosigns I'm familiar with: AR ----- End of message AS ----- Stand by BK ----- Invite receiving station to transmit BT ----- Pause; Break For Text KA ----- Beginning of message KN ----- end of transmission CL ----- Going off the air (clear) CQ ----- Calling any amateur radio station K ------ Go, invite any station to transmit KN ----- Go only, invite a specific station to transmit R ------ All received OK SK ----- End of contact (sent before call) VE ----- Understood (VE) AV ----- Warning SOS ---- Distress Although it can't be shown here in ASCII, a prosign is identified by a line or bar above the letters. You'll hear most of these on the Ham bands although some, like VE or AV and especially SOS will be very rarely heard. In addition to prosigns we have actual Morse characters for the arcane characters on our keyboards. These are NOT "prosigns" but simply combinations of dots and dashes like any letter of the English alphabet or number. (My apologies for getting careless with terminology and calling the ampersand a "prosign". That's not right. Hang on. I'll get back to that). I say English because, of course, there are many other languages that have corresponding Morse codes such as the 70-odd characters used for Japanese or the various odd characters used to represent diacritical marks and special letter combinations in other European languages including Hebrew. I won't even get into Arabic and Cyrillic. In many countries, Hams have to learn and be proficient in two or three "Morse Codes" to get a license! Here in the USA, commercial operators recognized a group of characters for the various symbols found on a common keyboard. These were codified by the ITU for use in commercial communications by Morse. We Hams use some of them almost daily, such as the period, question mark, comma and solidus (slash). A few more are: + (plus sign) di-dah-di-dit-dah = (equal sign) dah-di-di-dit-dah (We Hams use that for a dash a lot but as dash is really) - (dash) dah-di-di-di-di-dah " (quotation mark) di-dah-di-di-dah-dit ' (single quote) di-dah-dah-dah-dah-dit _ (underscore) di-di-dah-dah-di-dah $ (dollar sign) di-di-di-dah-di-di-dah There are more. There's probably one for the Euro by now <G>. Now THOSE you won't fine in common use on the Ham bands, at least not in any QSO I've heard! That is except for our "pause" when we often use the = sign. As Kevin Rock, KD5ONS, mentioned that some characters we use commonly came from the old American Morse that used variations on spacing and element lengths that don't occur in Continental or International Morse code. Dit, di-di-dit is one of those. Sent as E S it is the ampersand. Another very common one that is fading from use because of the popularity of keyers is the American Morse zero - the long dash. I'm sure others with far more background in the American Morse, Continental Morse, and various international codes will have more to say. Ron AC7AC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
RE: Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)
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David G4DMP wrote:
I don't know that one, Ron; we don't have Euros in the UK ;-) But don't forget the new one for @ for use in e-mail addresses @ di-dah-dah-di-dah-dit ----------------------------------------- Yeah, that's what started the thread so I left it out. It's also the easiest for me to remember (look at my call sign!) As for British currency, there must be one for the "pound sign", Hi! Ron AC7AC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
RE: Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)
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Ron AC7AC Said: --------------> This is a list of the prosigns I'm familiar with: BK ----- Invite receiving station to transmit CQ ----- Calling any amateur radio station SOS ---- Distress <-------------------- Hold on a second (AS) there Ron :-) My understanding is that BK, CQ and SOS are not to be sent with no space but as individual letters complete with the proper space around them. Isn't merging the BK or CQ together is just sloppy sending? BTW, nice call but now that I know the new @ pattern, I'll see you as @7@ :-) And with using "es" to mean and. It would make more sense to me to use the french word "et" It is even less letters. I never knew "es" was the american morse version of &. Hmmm. Oh well, live et learn. Sorry, that should be live es learn! - Keith KD1E - _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
RE: Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)
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Kieth wrote:
>Hold on a second (AS) there Ron :-) My understanding is that BK, CQ and >SOS are not to be sent with no space but as individual letters complete >with the proper space around them. There's the **biggest** mistake in Morse telegraphy! SOS is ALWAYS to be sent with NO space between the characters: . . . - - - . . . I don't know how the "general knowledge" came to be that it is sent as separate characters. That completely destroys the distinctive sound of the signal and is completely incorrect. It's interesting that even US military emergency radio sets like the WWII "Gibson Girl" hand-crank units (SCR-578, AN/CRT-3) and emergency keyers like the AN/ARA-26 (designed to automatically key an HF unit with a Morse distress signal and aircraft ID) perpetuate the S O S mistake by putting a space between letters on the code keying wheel. I blame it on the movies! As for BK, that is two letters, but like many other ham Morse customs, it really has *NO* place or value in Morse communication. The prosign K is much more to the point! Mike / KK5F _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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-----Original Message----- From: Mike Morrow <[hidden email]> To: Darwin, Keith <[hidden email]>; Elecraft Discussion List <[hidden email]> Sent: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:49:34 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse) >As for BK, that is two letters, but like many other ham Morse customs, it really >has *NO* place or value in Morse communication. The prosign K is much more to >the point! I disagree! The prosign "K" is meant for use at the end of a transmission, after the formal exchange of callsigns: "CQ CQ CQ CQ DE N2EY N2EY N2EY K" "....ES PSE QSL KK5F DE N2EY K" meaning "go ahead any station" But "BK" is used in rapid-fire exchanges *without* the formal callsign exchange: ".....FB MOJO OM BT IS UR RIG A K2 or K1? BK BK RIG HR K2 K2 SN 2084 2084 BK BK R R DOING FB....." Of course with the fine QSK of Elecraft rigs, even the BK can become superfluous. But if the other op doesn't have QSK, BK is useful to indicate that you're turning it over for a quick reply. -- There was a time when ARRL sponsored a "copying bee", in which a message of unknown length and content was sent. This grew into the Code Proficiency program. One feature of the Copying Bee was the inclusion of intentional misspellings, to see if the receiving op would copy "as sent" or "as expected". Caused more than a few to miss the perfect copy certificate. 73 (old Phillips Code abbreviation) ES (old Morse &) ZUT (old "Z code" abbreviation - unofficial) DE (prosign - sent as two letters) N2EY _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
RE: Prosign confusion (was: Anticipating Morse)
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Keith, KD1E, wrote:
Hold on a second (AS) there Ron :-) My understanding is that BK, CQ and SOS are not to be sent with no space but as individual letters complete with the proper space around them. Isn't merging the BK or CQ together is just sloppy sending? --------------------------- Ya' made me look, Keith: "SOS" is a prosign with no spaces between the letters. The general public picked up on it as three letters with a number of suggestions for what they might mean (e.g. "Save our Souls") but it has no spaces. I know that from personal experience. I've programmed too many "code wheels" for emergency transmitters and one thing the FCC engineers used to listen for when checking them was to make sure there were no spaces. You may be right about CQ and BK. I run them together but, looking at various references on the 'net, I see it both ways. Even the ARRL is starting to look a little Schizophrenic about the whole thing. Even though they've always agreed with the Commercial services that a "prosign" is sent as a single character with no spaces, they are now listing CQ as both a prosign and an abbreviation and, worse, they show it as a two-character prosign. That's a contradiction in terms! Elsewhere, the ARRL does not list it as a prosign but only as an abbreviation. One might ask what is CQ an abbreviation of? Some say it's a phonetic "seek you" but I've never heard a single plausible explanation of it as anything other than a prosign. As a Ham I heard that ES was an abbreviation for a Latin phrase, but not speaking Latin I didn't know. Then, when I studied for my Commercial Radiotelegraph license I found it listed as simply the character for the Ampersand. So what's the bottom line? To me it's that CW or Morse is a language and, like most languages it goes through a process of evolution and change according to popular usage. And those changes will probably bring anguish to the purists who remember the "old ways" just as changes in spoken and written languages of all sorts have done. Ron AC7AC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> I looked up the W1AW schedule so I'll know when to find them
> again. It's much better, in my opinion, than tapes or computer- > generated stuff, because it's 'real', over the air. The computer > stuff and tapes always seemed to me to be too sterile, too perfect. > Perhaps too boring and too dull. Stephanie and others - Let me recommend Ray Goff's Koch Method Morse Trainer. http://www.g4fon.net/ Not only is it a great way to become proficient in the alphabet and prosigns, Ray has gone on to add simulations of bad fists, bad noise, bad speed, bad fading ... I've found it very useful. There are mechanisms for copying sample QSOs as well as common words (and a supportive mailing list). The W1AW code practice sessions are great, too. But you can run Ray's program whenever you have 5-15 minutes to spare! 73 de chris K6DBG _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Good suggestions, but how about just turning on the rig and "reading the
mail" for a while for some experience of "real" fists? If you're just listening, no one cares if you miss characters as you build proficiency... Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- > I looked up the W1AW schedule so I'll know when to find them > again. It's much better, in my opinion, than tapes or computer- > generated stuff, because it's 'real', over the air. The computer > stuff and tapes always seemed to me to be too sterile, too perfect. > Perhaps too boring and too dull. Stephanie and others - Let me recommend Ray Goff's Koch Method Morse Trainer. http://www.g4fon.net/ Not only is it a great way to become proficient in the alphabet and prosigns, Ray has gone on to add simulations of bad fists, bad noise, bad speed, bad fading ... I've found it very useful. There are mechanisms for copying sample QSOs as well as common words (and a supportive mailing list). The W1AW code practice sessions are great, too. But you can run Ray's program whenever you have 5-15 minutes to spare! 73 de chris K6DBG _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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