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Still struggling as a Mac user in a Windows world ‹ something, I suppose,
like being left-handed in a right-handed world. Anyone know if the P3/SVGA accepts a Mac keyboard? Since all my Mac keyboards are wireless, or built-in to the laptop, I have no practical way to try it, and the documentation is ambiguous. Second question, before I buy something else that won¹t work ‹ with either a Mac or a PC keyboard, will the P3/SVGA accept a USB-wireless keyboard gizmo, or does the keyboard have to be physically plugged in to be recognized by the P3? Ted, KN1CBR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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If it is any consolation, you can buy a cheap but fully operational brand new
keyboard for under $10. Check out Amazon or other on-line suppliers. I bought one for $9.95 that I use with my Raspberry Pi processor. 73, phil, K7PEH > On Mar 22, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Dauer, Edward <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Still struggling as a Mac user in a Windows world ‹ something, I suppose, > like being left-handed in a right-handed world. > > Anyone know if the P3/SVGA accepts a Mac keyboard? Since all my Mac > keyboards are wireless, or built-in to the laptop, I have no practical way > to try it, and the documentation is ambiguous. Second question, before I > buy something else that won¹t work ‹ with either a Mac or a PC keyboard, > will the P3/SVGA accept a USB-wireless keyboard gizmo, or does the > keyboard have to be physically plugged in to be recognized by the P3? > > Ted, KN1CBR > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Ted,
Yes and no.. No a Mac keyboard won't work. Yes, some of the dongles will work. A popular combination that I use is a Logitech K360 remote keyboard with dongle. Rick K6LE On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 8:04 AM Phil Hystad <[hidden email]> wrote: > If it is any consolation, you can buy a cheap but fully operational brand > new > keyboard for under $10. Check out Amazon or other on-line suppliers. > > I bought one for $9.95 that I use with my Raspberry Pi processor. > > 73, phil, K7PEH > > > > On Mar 22, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Dauer, Edward <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > Still struggling as a Mac user in a Windows world ‹ something, I suppose, > > like being left-handed in a right-handed world. > > > > Anyone know if the P3/SVGA accepts a Mac keyboard? Since all my Mac > > keyboards are wireless, or built-in to the laptop, I have no practical > way > > to try it, and the documentation is ambiguous. Second question, before I > > buy something else that won¹t work ‹ with either a Mac or a PC keyboard, > > will the P3/SVGA accept a USB-wireless keyboard gizmo, or does the > > keyboard have to be physically plugged in to be recognized by the P3? > > > > Ted, KN1CBR > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Some PC keyboards don't work either. I have a CM Storm Quickfire that
didn't work. On Sun, 22 Mar 2015, Rick Prather wrote: > Ted, > > Yes and no.. > > No a Mac keyboard won't work. > > Yes, some of the dongles will work. A popular combination that I use is a > Logitech K360 remote keyboard with dongle. > > Rick > K6LE > > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 8:04 AM Phil Hystad <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> If it is any consolation, you can buy a cheap but fully operational brand >> new >> keyboard for under $10. Check out Amazon or other on-line suppliers. >> >> I bought one for $9.95 that I use with my Raspberry Pi processor. >> >> 73, phil, K7PEH >> >> >> > On Mar 22, 2015, at 6:45 AM, Dauer, Edward <[hidden email]> wrote: >> > >> > Still struggling as a Mac user in a Windows world ? something, I suppose, >> > like being left-handed in a right-handed world. >> > >> > Anyone know if the P3/SVGA accepts a Mac keyboard? Since all my Mac >> > keyboards are wireless, or built-in to the laptop, I have no practical >> way >> > to try it, and the documentation is ambiguous. Second question, before I >> > buy something else that won?t work ? with either a Mac or a PC keyboard, >> > will the P3/SVGA accept a USB-wireless keyboard gizmo, or does the >> > keyboard have to be physically plugged in to be recognized by the P3? >> > >> > Ted, KN1CBR >> > >> > >> > ______________________________________________________________ >> > Elecraft mailing list >> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> > Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> > >> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > Message delivered to [hidden email] >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - [hidden email] BSEE + BSChem + BAEnglish + MSCS + $2.50 = coffee ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I think the issue is, does the keyboard/dongle etc. implement a
USB hub. The P3/SVGA does not support hubs. The Mac keyboards implement hubs, so you can plug the mouse into the keyboard. As a result they won't work with the P3/SVGA. 73 Bill AE6JV On 3/22/15 at 10:19 AM, [hidden email] (Hisashi T Fujinaka) wrote: >Some PC keyboards don't work either. I have a CM Storm Quickfire that >didn't work. > >On Sun, 22 Mar 2015, Rick Prather wrote: > >>Ted, >> >>Yes and no.. >> >>No a Mac keyboard won't work. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Concurrency is hard. 12 out | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | 10 programmers get it wrong. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | - Jeff Frantz | Los Gatos, CA 95032 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On 3/22/2015 6:45 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
> Still struggling as a Mac user in a Windows world ‹ something, I > suppose, like being left-handed in a right-handed world. Good analogy, I'm left-handed ... you learn to adapt. Apple and Microsoft approached the market essentially orthogonally. Jobs wanted to control the entire user experience and as a result, the Apple hardware and software was tightly bundled, controlled, and protected. If Apple didn't make it or authorize its creation, it doesn't exist. Gates wanted Windows to be platform-independent, and indeed, Win 7 varies greatly between this desktop, my radio laptop, and my wife's laptop. It's hard to say which was the better strategy, both Apple and Microsoft are at the top of the "successful company ladder." > > Anyone know if the P3/SVGA accepts a Mac keyboard? Since all my Mac > keyboards are wireless, or built-in to the laptop, I have no > practical way to try it, and the documentation is ambiguous. Second > question, before I buy something else that won¹t work with either a > Mac or a PC keyboard, will the P3/SVGA accept a USB-wireless keyboard > gizmo, or does the keyboard have to be physically plugged in to be > recognized by the P3? Keyboards are dirt cheap these days and I know of one friend who uses a wireless dongle of some sort. I can find out if you want to try it. A little OT: One of our kids gave me Walter Isaacson's "Innovators" which is fascinating [Isaacson is the author of the Steve Jobs bio], and no I don't get even a pat on the back for saying that. The book begins with "Babbage and Lovelace." I'm on Tim Berners-Lee right now, and I keep wondering if I'm going to get to the chapter titled "Burdick and Swartz?" 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 - www.cqp.org ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Not exactly. You need to go back to the Apple I and MS-DOS/PC-DOS to
really understand the question. Apple started life building computers. Microsoft started as a software company providing an OS for PC and compatibles. Microsoft makes their money selling the OS. Apple used hardware sales to pay for software the essentially gave away. When Apple tried allowing Mac clones, the lost hardware revenue all but stopped MacOS development, and it took Apple a while to recover. Microsoft entered the hardware business later. 73 -- Lynn On 3/22/2015 1:16 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > Good analogy, I'm left-handed ... you learn to adapt. Apple and > Microsoft approached the market essentially orthogonally. Jobs wanted > to control the entire user experience and as a result, the Apple > hardware and software was tightly bundled, controlled, and protected. > If Apple didn't make it or authorize its creation, it doesn't exist. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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